Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Absolutely! But they were also responsible for some of the most spectacular pieces of art ever created. However, by proclaiming that an 'oblong' of certain proportions is better, in any way, than an 'square' you are creating an artificial situation - some kind of an 'ideal' that is restrictive and

Re: opto 430

2002-12-28 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi gfen, on 27 Dec 02 you wrote in pentax.list: Smaller chip? Really? I didn't realize that.. RS: 1/1.8 CCD GS: 1/2.7 CCD I'm starting to t hink my semi-careful research was, in fact, completely pointless as I didn't actually learn anything... :) I don't know if the chip size plays an

Re: Pentax ads on TV

2002-12-28 Thread Brad Dobo
Ok, steering off-topic a bit. We all say it's a given that PnS 35mm sales are big with Pentax. Yes? Why don't I see them around? I don't see them in stores, I don't see them in hands, I just don't see them. How can they be big? Big in comparison to what? Big like Canon, or big as in we sold

Re: Pentax ads on TV

2002-12-28 Thread Rfsindg
Retail distribution channels account for some of the differences. I'll bet you're not looking in the big box retailers like Walmart, Target, and Kmart for your 35mm PS gear. The real secret for Pentax or any manufacturer is to get the price/ quality/ features about right and then impress the

Re: observatory visit

2002-12-28 Thread brooksdj
Hi . I dabbled with some night star shots last year.I found by placing the north star(oh i'm about 46 degrees latitude in north america)either in the centre or off to one top left,right corner,you get some nice circular effects at about 50-60 minutes exposure. I used Kodak 400 film(not sure if

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Keith, I agree with both you and Dr. Williams. But, (it must be that I'm a Libra - hey aren't the zodiac signs Greek?) let me play devil's advocate here. The Golden Ratio, or whatever one chooses to call it, is indeed some arbitrary mathematical ratio that the human mind imposes over

Re: Which macro lens ?

2002-12-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Dec 2002 at 0:00, Dan Scott wrote: Rob, Do the colored lines on the end of the barrel serve any purpose or are they decorative? Hi Dan, Purely decorative, nice hey :-( The single red line on the barrel indicates the 2:1 to 1:1 scale transition as the focus ring rotates twice.

My eBay auctions

2002-12-28 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Hi all, in case anyone is interested, I have put up a few items for auctioning at eBay. A Tokina 20-35/3.5-4.5 II, an MZ-7, and a Motor Drive A are about to go very cheap... Happy New Year to all, Boz -- _\\|//_ Imagination is more important than knowledge... 0(` O-O ')0

Re: My eBay auctions

2002-12-28 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Bojidar Dimitrov wrote: in case anyone is interested, I have put up a few items for auctioning at eBay. A Tokina 20-35/3.5-4.5 II, an MZ-7, and a Motor Drive A are about to go very cheap... http://cgi6.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=bdimitrov

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Bob wrote: The proportions of photographic paper are determined by the historical proportions of ordinary paper. This isn't about the format of paper but format of film (which hardly ever fit the paper). One possible reason why there may be more (non-square) rectangular compositions than

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Keith wrote: I contend it's something that if you're really obscessed with, you can find that pattern almost anywhere in a good composition... Good composition, yes. Perhaps thats whats makes it good. Pål

Re: OT: Epson Colorlife Paper

2002-12-28 Thread Lon Williamson
Yeah, most of what I've read says to let them dry 24 hours before framing. But I find that the wetness that attracts and glues down dust is purty much over by 15 minutes on most paper. Your milage may vary -Lon Mark D. wrote: --- Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, I've found

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Frank wrote: But isn't that the point? It isn't, I suppose, that it's found in nature, but that the human mind will impose ~it's~ structures (for lack of a better term) on what it finds in the world, and judge certain things to be more satisfying than others.. If that's the way some

OT: ratios

2002-12-28 Thread Lon Williamson
I remember an article in Sci American spoofing numerology. The author investigated the Washington Monument, had phun with numbers, and ended up proving it an alien spaceship direction marker of some sort -Lon Keith Whaley wrote: Regardless of who said it, or who believes it, I propose the

Re: OT: ratios

2002-12-28 Thread frank theriault
And, the Eiffel Tower is a huge valve, channeling telluric currents, an underground energy source well known to investigators of fortean events. BTW, the Washington Monument and the Empire State Building are such valves in the US. Are you saying you don't believe in such things, Lon? vbg Lon

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Lon Williamson
If 35mm is so dominant, why don't we see paper readily available in the same 1:1.5 proportions? frank theriault wrote: Hi, Keith, I agree with both you and Dr. Williams. But, (it must be that I'm a Libra - hey aren't the zodiac signs Greek?) let me play devil's advocate here. The

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread frank theriault
Um... I dunno. -frank Lon Williamson wrote: If 35mm is so dominant, why don't we see paper readily available in the same 1:1.5 proportions? -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer

Re: RE: Re: Portra 400UC

2002-12-28 Thread PERK1518
Re: RE: Re: Portra 400UC Dave wrote: Because the parent lab can now proccess BW film,he is stocking Tmax 100/400 film.At least i don't have to drive 45 min to pick BW film up now. Wow! Every now and again I'm reminded of my age. When I was first shooting pictures, with my mighty howling

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Steve Pearson Subject: Re: 6x6 - Also, what is your favorite 120 film, in both BW and color negative, for portraits? How about for landscapes? Ilford FP4+, Kodak Portra 160NC. William Robb

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Dr E D F Williams
We did. Postcard sized paper was very popular. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28,

Macro on the SMC A 35-105 f 3.5

2002-12-28 Thread brooksdj
Hi All. I have read the comments on Stan's site in regard to this lens,all were favoribale,but not any mention of the macro. Anyone care to comment on the lens AND the macro feature. The chain ,Henrys , has one for $404 Can but i found one at a pawn type' store for $149 Can in fair to good

Re: ZX-5n Replacement Lens ??

2002-12-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: ZX-5n Replacement Lens ?? Jeez, William, tell us how you really feel. You take Grinch pills just before Christmas? Your not man enough to take how I really feel. That was a bit harsh though. Har!!! William Robb

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread T Rittenhouse
For many decades the standard snapshot print size was the deckle edged N print (3.5 x 4.5) (look in your old family photo albums) it is only since about the 70's when 35mm became the default that 3.5 x 5 and now 4 x 6 have become the norm. Back in the fifties if you shot with your brownie you got

Resent Messages, was Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? An observation...

2002-12-28 Thread T Rittenhouse
All messages are received by PDML's remailer software, then resent to everybody on the list. The time involved would depend upon server load. I think the list server we are on probably handles many lists, so PDML volume itself would not be the only factor in the delay time. This list is monitored

RE: OT: ratios

2002-12-28 Thread David Chang-Sang
How does this relate to the Knights Templar and the current state of the Masonic Lodge and it's ability to control the entire world? Smirkingly, Dave -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Macro on the SMC A 35-105 f 3.5

2002-12-28 Thread David Chang-Sang
Dave, This is the lens I sold on Ebay for $240 US I had to have mine serviced by Kominek (http://www.kominek.com) to fix a few bad coils/rings inside the lens. If the lens at the Pawn shop is only $149 CDN, then I'd say go for it. Even if you have to pay the $170 CDN I paid for the service,

Re: Re[2]: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread T Rittenhouse
Actually, some of our standards for photograph sizes came about because that was the size plate glass was commonly available in in the 19th Century, 8x10 in the US, 8-1/2x6-1/2 in England, etc. (why do the English have vertical sizes and the Americans horizontal sizes?) They were commonly cut into

SHORTCUT S-SPLINE 2

2002-12-28 Thread Ed Tyler
Does anyone have personal experience with Shortcut software's S-Spline 2? My understanding is that it does a superior job of enlarging images, better that Genuine Fractals and other similar programs. Does anyone know if it will handle large files such as 300 DPI 8x10s and how much it can enlarge

Re: My eBay auctions

2002-12-28 Thread Rfsindg
Boz, Does this mean you will sell it to us PDML members who are in North America, not just Europe? This is a slow time for ebay sellers. On US ebay, the seller can cancel the auction at any time, even the last 5 minutes. You might consider this as you are selling with no reserve.

Re[2]: OT: Changing the subject (was Re[2]: 6x6 - Waste of Space? An observation...

2002-12-28 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, why do think my polite request deserves such a snide reply? Jumping from the subject of square composition to email headers is a big leap. I, and presumably many other people, who are interested in the square format discussion, are not interested at all, at least in this context, in email

Re[2]: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Saturday, December 28, 2002, 12:57:59 PM, you wrote: [...] One possible reason why there may be more (non-square) rectangular compositions than square ones is that there is only one square, and there are infinitely many possible rectangles. There are very few common rectangles used in

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Bob Blakely
The golden ratio is not some arbitrary mathematical ratio that the human mind imposes over certain objects. It is an irrational number, as is pi, for which only an approximation may be calculated. From http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF7/716.html , Geometrically, it can be defined as the

RE: Ad

2002-12-28 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Dan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Very classy Tom. Reeks of $$$ to burn. ;-) Ha! Thanks. I think I'm going to pick up a copy to show my wife. Was it some of that non-professional Pentax equipment? MZ-S + 85/1.4 The ad runs regionally, so unless

Re: 2000mm f13.5 sold on eBay....

2002-12-28 Thread William Kane
Looks like it would take the same adapter the 500/4.5 needs to mount it to a camera . . . did any of us get this puppy? IL Bill Malcolm Smith wrote: Christian Skofteland wrote: All the talk last week about reflex lenses made me follow this auction until it ended a bit ago (I had to toss a

Re[2]: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Saturday, December 28, 2002, 1:49:24 PM, you wrote: Bob wrote: The proportions of photographic paper are determined by the historical proportions of ordinary paper. This isn't about the format of paper but format of film (which hardly ever fit the paper). The difference between the

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one isbest?)

2002-12-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
I saw a special on TLC about the human face. It turns out that the most beautifulfaces as chosen by an international focus group had many of the major facial ratios, e.g., center of mouth to edge of cheek / center of mouth to end of lips, in the golden ratio, 1.61. . . There is no question

Re: Good reads?

2002-12-28 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
I bought myself Get the Picture, by John G. Morris. It's a wonderful look at photojournalism, from the inside, of the last 65 years. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Picked up a copy of Creative Elements: Landscape Photography -- Darkroom Techniques by Eddie Ephraums, and a copy of Creative

Re: Macro on the SMC A 35-105 f 3.5

2002-12-28 Thread Fred
It's a great lens. Will look a bit bulky on the K1000 but it's an awesome lens. It is indeed a good zoom lens, as good as the A 28-135/4 within its somewhat narrower range, and a partial stop faster, too. (Nonetheless, I still prefer the 28-135, giving up the partial stop and taking the zoom

Re: OT: ratios

2002-12-28 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
Saturday, December 28, 2002, 2:59:23 PM, frank wrote: ft And, the Eiffel Tower is a huge valve, channeling telluric currents, an ft underground energy source well known to investigators of fortean events. ft BTW, the Washington Monument and the Empire State Building are such valves ft in the US.

Re: Resent Messages, was Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? An observation...

2002-12-28 Thread Keith Whaley
T Rittenhouse wrote: All messages are received by PDML's remailer software, then resent to everybody on the list. That fits my observations, Tom. But why effectively 'stopped' and later resent, if not for an approval cycle? Pdml.net belongs to pdml alone, doesn't it? I guess I don't

Re: OT: ratios

2002-12-28 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Dave, I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. vbg -frank David Chang-Sang wrote: How does this relate to the Knights Templar and the current state of the Masonic Lodge and it's ability to control the entire world? Smirkingly, Dave -Original Message- From: frank

Re: OT: ratios

2002-12-28 Thread Brad Dobo
Hey Dave, I forgot to convey my appreciation a while back for standing up for me on the list. Unfortunately, you and I were both attacked by one person, but the point was well made. I just wanted to say a private thank-you. Regards, Brad Dobo

RE: OT: ratios

2002-12-28 Thread David Chang-Sang
I guess it's not so private then :) No thanks required.. I just call them as I see them.. sometimes, I realise things get a bit heated around here.. but that's one of the things I like about this list. We argue, get pissed off, hold grudges but eventually carry on to bigger and better things.

Vs: Macro on the SMC A 35-105 f 3.5

2002-12-28 Thread Raimo Korhonen
It has a macro feature available at all focal lengths but it is feeble: 1:4.5 maximum ratio only. The quality is good, though. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Vs: Waste of Space?

2002-12-28 Thread Raimo Korhonen
and bandwidth: this discussion. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 28. joulukuuta 2002 14:33 Aihe: Re: 6x6 -

Re: OT: ratios

2002-12-28 Thread Brad Dobo
Oops, disregard the past message. :( - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 12:45 PM Subject: Re: OT: ratios Hey Dave, I forgot to convey my appreciation a while back for standing up for me on the list.

Re: Waste of Space?

2002-12-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Raimo Korhonen Subject: Vs: Waste of Space? and bandwidth: this discussion. All the best! Yup, and then some morons add to the waste of bandwidth by complaining about it. This discussion is relevant to what we are supposed to be discussing here (photography

Re: OT: ratios

2002-12-28 Thread Keith Whaley
Brad Dobo wrote: Hey Dave, I forgot to convey my appreciation a while back for standing up for me on the list. Unfortunately, you and I were both attacked by one person, but the point was well made. I just wanted to say a private thank-you. Regards, Brad Dobo Well, Brad, you

Re: OT: ratios

2002-12-28 Thread T Rittenhouse
Pretty private, Brad, only 400 people read that. Don't you just love software that makes it easy to screw up. Like most of us can't do that by ourselves. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Vs: Waste of Space?

2002-12-28 Thread Raimo Korhonen
So how to waste space with Pentax cameras? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 28. joulukuuta 2002 18:54 Aihe:

Re: OT: Big Film/Paper buyout

2002-12-28 Thread Keith Whaley
Please send me an address, Collin... Thanks, keith whaley Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I got one. Boy is it nice. Here's some bargains for PDML that won't go on eBay (unless nobody wants 'em): #1 Kodak Supra 400 20 roll boxes, 35mm, 36 exp., dated 06/02, I've got 5 of these boxes.

Re: OT: ratios

2002-12-28 Thread frank theriault
Hmmm... Believe it or not, I'm drinking a glass of grape soft drink as I'm typing this. It ain't Koolade, but frighteningly close. g -frank Peter Alling wrote: But then I'd have to kill you. ;- At 12:39 PM 12/28/2002 -0500, Frank wrote: Hi, Dave, I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill

Re: OT: A New Trademark

2002-12-28 Thread Peter Alling
Oh no, politics and religion, I don't think I can take it... At 08:40 AM 12/26/2002 -0500, you wrote: I thought I WAS being light! BTW, you can use the f-word all you want, but I'd prefer you not take the Lord's name in vain, please. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From:

Vs: 1.9/43 Limited tested

2002-12-28 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Always some doubters, I guess... All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 28. joulukuuta 2002 21:39 Aihe: Re: 1.9/43

Re: Ad

2002-12-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
tom wrote: My first magazine ad is in Modern Bride Washington and is hitting newstands now: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/mbad.jpg A better view: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/mbad.gif Rejected: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/mb-ad.gif Woo Hoo! I'm excited. tv Your accepted ad looks terrific,

Dr E D F Williams

2002-12-28 Thread Bob Blakely
Sorry to have offended you. Any subject bearing on composition in photography is on topic here. If this becomes too upsetting for you, I'm sure there are other lists where your judgments of others posts will appreciated. Regards, Bob

Dr E D F Williams

2002-12-28 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry to have offended you. Any subject bearing on composition in photography is on topic here. If this becomes too upsetting for you, I'm sure there are other lists where your judgments of others posts will appreciated. Regards, Bob Don is

Re: Waste of Space?

2002-12-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Raimo wrote: So how to waste space with Pentax cameras? Crop your images into squares... Pål

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Tom wrote: Some of the strongest images I have seen have been squares, the photographer has to do his work to create a dynamic image because the format itself is rather static, but when he does the image can be spectacular. True. Although some seem to have mixed up the rectangular format

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Bob wrote: The way you're dismissing the square seems rather simplistic to me. I'm not dismissing square images, but square film. The camera makers seem to be doing the same. In the future there won't be square cameras I suspect because it is such a waste. Photographers will crop their images

Re: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Cotty wrote: I went shopping today :-) but didn't actually buy anything :-( However, I did manage to see some Manfrotto tripods and was mightily impressed. I've been through both the Manfrotto and Gitzo tripods, but I'm much more impressed with the Berlebach. www.berlebach.de Pål

Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-28 Thread Cotty
Good luck with the 'pod, even though it's for your digital ;-) I assume you REALLY don't want to lug around your heavy tripod for the betacam or what you guys use :) Thanks for the tips Frants. Yep, the tripod I carry around for the day job is Sachtler carbon-fibre 3 section monster with

Re[2]: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Saturday, December 28, 2002, 8:27:47 PM, you wrote: Bob wrote: The way you're dismissing the square seems rather simplistic to me. I'm not dismissing square images, but square film. The camera makers seem to be doing the same. In the future there won't be square cameras I suspect

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?) Bob wrote: The way you're dismissing the square seems rather simplistic to me. I'm not dismissing square images, but square film. The camera makers seem to be doing

Re: Waste of Space?

2002-12-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: Waste of Space? Raimo wrote: So how to waste space with Pentax cameras? Crop your images into squares... Make 8x10 prints. William Robb

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Bob wrote: Since the square is such an important shape in composition It isn't. It is extremely unimportant and hardly 2.7% of images shot or published use this format. Pål

Re[2]: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-28 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Saturday, December 28, 2002, 9:00:15 PM, you wrote: I have a question for the other Manfrotto 055 users. I have problems with the leg locks on mine. They are a lever style of lock, and I can either get the lock loose enough to allow the legs to slide when in the relaxed position, or

Re[2]: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Saturday, December 28, 2002, 10:44:59 PM, you wrote: Bob wrote: Since the square is such an important shape in composition It isn't. It is extremely unimportant and hardly 2.7% of images shot or published use this format. where did you get this ridiculous statistic? You

Re: 1.9/43 Limited tested

2002-12-28 Thread Mike Johnston
There´s a test of the 43 Limited in Foto Magazin 1/2003. Verdict: super, 5/5 stars. Optical performance 9.6/10, mechanical 9.8/10. Practically no flare. Excellent sharpness in the center, a bit soft in the corners at full aperture, good at f:4. Vignetting at full aperture, stopped down OK.

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Bob wrote: where did you get this ridiculous statistic? You obviously know absolutely nothing about composition if you believe the square is unimportant. I'm talking about square images, not the role of the square in composition... Square images are rare. Pål

Re: Sent the MX back (sigh) and Happy Holidays all...

2002-12-28 Thread Peter Alling
Well they did take it back. At 06:50 PM 12/26/2002 +0200, you wrote: Hi! Hmmm, so KEH actually sold a camera that was essentially inoperable, didn't they? Is it against their basic policy? I thought that all equipment listed on KEH was operational unless __explicities__ said otherwise... What

Re: OT: .....

2002-12-28 Thread James Adams
Back in 1973, I was a part of RAF 38GP TCW, (Tactical Communications Wing). We had an unofficial symbol for the wing, namely a mushroom, surrounded by the letters S.N.A.F.U. and K.I.T.D.A.F.O.S.(Hint: under what conditions do mushrooms grow, and on what). The AOC 38GP TCW did not like the later,

Dr E D F Williams

2002-12-28 Thread Brad Dobo
Don ignores many things. I for one (and no doubt others) am learning a great deal from the composition posts, a weak point in my photography. - Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:26 PM Subject: Dr E D F Williams

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Brad Dobo
I believe he is referring to your tendency to come up with numbers with little support. - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:59 PM Subject: Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

Re: *Sigh* Unsubscribed again?

2002-12-28 Thread Peter Alling
No one's useless Doug, you can always be used as a horrible example. :) At 12:11 AM 12/26/2002 -0500, you wrote: Sorry I took a couple days off for Christmas. I'll try to do better next holiday. Doug useless bastard list guy At 11:21 PM -050012/25/02, Bruce Rubenstein wrote, or at least

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think Pål wrote this, but I'm getting confused: I'm not dismissing square images, but square film. The camera makers seem to be doing the same. In the future there won't be square cameras I suspect because it is such a waste. Photographers will crop their images into squares instead of

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
PJ I'm not dismissing square images, but square film. The camera makers seem to be doing the same. In the future there won't be square cameras I suspect because it is such a waste. Photographers PJ will crop their images into squares instead of cropping their squares into rectangles. Pal,

Re: observatory visitlink

2002-12-28 Thread Pat White
Nice shot, Dave! I'll have to try something like that here, next time it stops raining (not complaining, at least I don't have to shovel the rain). Pat White

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread frank theriault
Game, Set and Match!! Now I can go watch the hockey game, as this discussion is now over. Thanks, Frantisek. g cheers, frank Frantisek Vlcek wrote: from purely technical standpoint (I won't diverge into aesthetics and all), square is the format that wastes _the least_ of a lens

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? Bob wrote: where did you get this ridiculous statistic? You obviously know absolutely nothing about composition if you believe the square is unimportant. I'm talking about square images, not the role of

Re: Re[2]: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Walkden Subject: Re[2]: OT: Tripod recommendations please Hi, Saturday, December 28, 2002, 9:00:15 PM, you wrote: I have a question for the other Manfrotto 055 users. there's a little device on the springs which lets you adjust the tension. I've

ZX-50 and Manual Focus 80-200 Lense

2002-12-28 Thread SRANKIN999
I am new to SLR photography. Two weeks ago I bought a new ZX-50 with 28-80 Pentax lense. I then bought a used Rokinon MF 80-200 lense at a local photography shop. The person at the photography shop was not familiar with the XZ-50 but said the lense would work. I read something in the pdml

Re: ZX-50 and Manual Focus 80-200 Lense

2002-12-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - Subject: ZX-50 and Manual Focus 80-200 Lense I am new to SLR photography. Two weeks ago I bought a new ZX-50 with 28-80 Pentax lense. I then bought a used Rokinon MF 80-200 lense at a local photography shop. The person at the photography shop was not familiar

RE: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Len Paris
I really wasn't going to inject this but Will's poetry pushed me over the edge. If you think about it, you'll see that all lenses provide a circular image, therefore any image less than a full circle wastes part of the lenses field of view. I have a true fisheye lens that does produce a circular

A versus M 35/2.8

2002-12-28 Thread Mark D.
Hey Folks, I've been toying with the idea of adding a 35mm prime to the collection. While I liked the results from the 35/3.5, it's a lens I had a hard time getting to like. I think it was the dim viewfinder, especially when compared to the 50/1.7 I often use. So, I'm considering getting one of

RE: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you think about it, you'll see that all lenses provide a circular image, therefore any image less than a full circle wastes part of the lenses field of view. rectangular lenses don't. all sorts of reasons why they are not common. Herb...

Re: A versus M 35/2.8

2002-12-28 Thread Peter Alling
I've found the M35/2.8 to be a very nice sharp lens when stopped down one or two stops. It's not bad wide open either but as with most lens sharpness improves stopped down. In addition it is extremely compact and can be found at relatively low cost. I wouldn't forgo purchasing the 2.8 while

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-28 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
I have three bodies: Super Program (TTL); Ricoh XR-2s (no TTL, no flash used), and Ricoh XR-P (TTL). I've been using a Ritz Quantaray QTB-9000A tilt/swivel/bounce flash with the SP. The beauty of a Quantaray modular flash (or ProMaster, the actual maker) is that you can use it in TTL on Pentax

RE: Add II

2002-12-28 Thread Leonard Paris
It wouldn't make me want to hire that photographer to shoot a wedding for me. Len --- From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Add II Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 23:35:59 -0500 -Original Message- From: Leonard Paris [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-28 Thread Peter Alling
Where do you live, exactly, Bob At 07:52 PM 12/26/2002 -0800, you wrote: Good idea! We can also tell when Tyrannosaurus Rex is prowling nearby! No, really, good idea! Regards, Bob Beer is proof that God loves us and

Re: OT:Epson 2450 continued

2002-12-28 Thread Jeff
Hi Dave, The scan shows on my viewer program as a 1771x1799x24 BPP, which makes it closer to 900 dpi. If your scanner program is similar to mine (Microtek 5900) then you must have applied a multiplier to the image size to obtain the desired printer output size. You could reduce the file to

Strange FA*200 problem, or not a problem?

2002-12-28 Thread Alan Chan
I promise this will be my last question regarding my FA*200/2.8. :) When the focus ring was shifted from MF to AF, it will rotate for certain amount before it was locked into position. However, as I rotate the focus ring (AF position), the distance scale rotates too. I do not remember the

Re: ZX-50 and Manual Focus 80-200 Lense

2002-12-28 Thread Peter Alling
The question is does the Rikonon have an A setting. the MZ 50 lacks a mechanical coupling to read the aperture setting from the lens and the electronic contacts were not present on earlier non A lenses so it will not meter correctly with these lenses. I'm not familiar enough with Ricoh's

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-28 Thread Peter Alling
The MZ-M does not support TTL flash of any kind. The rest of the MZ line should work with the 280 but I'd check the camera manual to be sure. At 05:58 PM 12/28/2002 -0800, you wrote: Hello All, Say, can someone tell me which current Pentax cameras can properly use a AF 280t or a AF 200t flash?

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-28 Thread Alan Chan
Say, can someone tell me which current Pentax cameras can properly use a AF 280t or a AF 200t flash? I seem to remember an analog vs digital issue involved here, but I ignored that discussion as my gear is basically all screwmount. I was thinking of buying either a ZX-M or a ZX-5N and would hope

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Peter Alling
I think that the individual sensor elements are oblong so the sensor will be a rectangle, (I could be wrong however). At 09:09 PM 12/27/2002 -0500, you wrote: Humm? Didn't I just read somewhere about a 4096x4096 sensor? Maybe in a Photokina report? Ciao, Graywolf

Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-28 Thread Bob Blakely
NOT in Jurassic Park. Regards, Bob Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy! - Benjamin Franklin From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where do you live, exactly, Bob At 07:52 PM 12/26/2002 -0800,

RE: Strange FA*200 problem, or not a problem?

2002-12-28 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 11:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Strange FA*200 problem, or not a problem? I promise this will be my last question regarding my FA*200/2.8. :) Yeah, right. When the focus

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2002-12-28 Thread Peter Alling
5x7 comes very close. At 09:11 AM 12/28/2002 -0500, you wrote: If 35mm is so dominant, why don't we see paper readily available in the same 1:1.5 proportions? frank theriault wrote: Hi, Keith, I agree with both you and Dr. Williams. But, (it must be that I'm a Libra - hey aren't the

Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-28 Thread Peter Alling
That's good I was just a little worried. At 09:12 PM 12/28/2002 -0800, you wrote: NOT in Jurassic Park. Regards, Bob Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy! - Benjamin Franklin From: Peter Alling

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