Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Tom C wrote: Now, if they can just avoid downgrading it more than twice and concentrate on being forward looking... I can't figure out what you mean. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

OT: Leica M8 digital unveiled

2006-09-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
while we're having a love fest on the K10D another leak ... in french (babelfish does a good translation) http://www.macandphoto.com/2006/09/prise_en_main_d.html I think I saw a couple of pigs flying south a few moments ago ... ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: K10D Buffer Size/Speed

2006-09-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Wo-hoo! 12 RAW shots at 3 FPS. JPEG's at 3FPS: The card is the limit! Tha'ts what I want! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Shel Belinkoff Sendt:

Re: Power Zoom: Available or not?

2006-09-14 Thread Thibouille
I certainly can't disagree with that. But you gotta admit that there's nothing (well, very few things) cooler than engaging the power zoom, racking the lens all the way out, focusing on something close, and then shutting the camera off just to watch the lens retract. g -- Scott

Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ...

2006-09-14 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/14/06 12:51 AM, P. J. Alling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since they claim and extra stop in SR over the K100D maybe that's where the extra stop is coming from. According to a Japanese article, extra stop comes from more robust magnet/coil over K100D's and the improved SR algorithm. Ken

Re: Raw+Jpg Modes

2006-09-14 Thread John Francis
Sure you can. RAW+JPEG, with the RAW option set to DNG (not to PEF). On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 10:31:39PM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Doesn't look like you can shoot DNG + JPEG though ... or did I miss that? Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Maybe I'm being dense, but

Re: Power Zoom: Available or not?

2006-09-14 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 08:27:01PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Now this is interesting... Look at this official pentax page, http://www.pentaxslr.com/bodies/k10 and you'll find these words: Power zoom function not available Now scroll down to the bottom of the same

Re: OT: Leica M8 digital unveiled

2006-09-14 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: while we're having a love fest on the K10D another leak ... in french (babelfish does a good translation) http://www.macandphoto.com/2006/09/prise_en_main_d.html I think I saw a couple of pigs flying south a few moments ago ... ;-)

Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-14 Thread John Forbes
Nor can Tom. Pentax have just produced the most exciting camera for years (from any manufacturer), and Tom is struggling to find something negative to say. But he'll be back on form soon enough, I'm sure. And in due course he'll buy one, and then won't stop telling people how good Pentax

Re: Power Zoom: Available or not?

2006-09-14 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 06:12:53PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 13, 2006, at 5:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Look at this official pentax page, http://www.pentaxslr.com/bodies/ k10 and you'll find these words: Power zoom function not available Now scroll down to the bottom of

Re: PAW - Ranunculus

2006-09-14 Thread David Mann
On Sep 14, 2006, at 1:25 AM, Jack Davis wrote: David, I see no real need for cropping. If anything, I might try tightening it into a square, just to take a look. Think I'd clone/darken lower left corner and, maybe, lighten the buds. They really don't contribute to the image. BTW, I like

Re: PAW - Ranunculus

2006-09-14 Thread David Mann
On Sep 13, 2006, at 11:27 PM, Jan van Wijk wrote: I thought about cropping a bit off the left due to the bright bits but I was in too much of a hurry to decide exactly how much to crop. Upto where the green vertical 'band' is ? (crop off about 15% or so) Yeah something like that. Just

Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ...

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: While I generally agree, I found the Pentax DSLR's to produce very film-like results at high ISO's. The Canon and Nikon's are more objectionable (Although my D50 is extremely clean at 800). And for those who don't find it objectionable:

Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/9/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: Nor can Tom. Pentax have just produced the most exciting camera for years (from any manufacturer), and Tom is struggling to find something negative to say. But he'll be back on form soon enough, I'm sure. And in due course he'll buy one,

Re: istDS Noise @ ISO 3200 - again

2006-09-14 Thread John Coyle
Shel, I have a feeling that a firmware upgrade may have helped, with the early versions of the D at least. Soon after getting the camera I took some shots in available dark at 3200 which turned out very noisy - not unusable but definitely not what I wanted! The next day, having forgotten that

Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ...

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
I quit like that don't find it objectionable at all. Sometimes I forget how good a snapper you are. :-) Dave At 03:18 PM 14/09/2006, you wrote: On 13/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: While I generally agree, I found the Pentax DSLR's to produce very film-like results at high

Re: PESO- Grace Does Lunch

2006-09-14 Thread Jan van Wijk
Nice shot Paul! On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:30:47 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: In a rather dark corner of a restaurant. DA 12/24, f6.7 @ 1 second, ISO 400. Camera resting on the table. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4936130size=lg Like the lighting, very natural ... The motion blurr

Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-14 Thread mike wilson
From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/14 Thu AM 12:06:19 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: popphoto.com k10D On 14/09/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, if they can just avoid downgrading it more than twice and concentrate on being

Re: Two questions about lenses sigma and 645

2006-09-14 Thread Jostein Øksne
Ivan, Just remember that 645 will give you stop-down metering on K-mount...:-) I believe most of the 645 lenses are excellent performers on digital. I have used *istD with the A*-300/4, and like it very much. I have also used the A*-300/4 extensively with the FA-75/2.8 reversed, for extreme

Re: OT: Leica M8 digital unveiled

2006-09-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/09/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: while we're having a love fest on the K10D another leak ... in french (babelfish does a good translation) http://www.macandphoto.com/2006/09/prise_en_main_d.html I think I saw a couple of pigs flying south a few moments ago ... ;-)

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Patrick Genovese wrote: Check out Phil's preview on this page at the very bottom: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page9.asp There is a setting : Using aperture ring 1: Prohibited 2: Permitted Does this mean we can use the aperture ring in the

Re: Does this mean what I think it means?

2006-09-14 Thread Toralf Lund
I think push processing is a very good analogy. You can't strictly speaking change the ISO on a digital camera - the sensor has a fixed sensitivity. ... ... at a specified voltage input/output level. If you change the voltage levels, you are changing the response curve and thus the

K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Patrick Genovese
Check out Phil's preview on this page at the very bottom: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page9.asp There is a setting : Using aperture ring 1: Prohibited 2: Permitted Does this mean we can use the aperture ring in the traditional way ? i.e. that Pentax have brought back the

Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, mike wilson wrote: From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/14 Thu AM 12:06:19 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: popphoto.com k10D On 14/09/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, if they can just avoid downgrading it more

Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ...

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Sometimes I forget how good a snapper you are. You can simulate my aperture any time you like. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread mike wilson
From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/14 Thu AM 09:31:39 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring Check out Phil's preview on this page at the very bottom: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page9.asp There

Re: K10D available at Amazon (pre-order)

2006-09-14 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
ryan brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For fun, I added it to my cart and got a much earlier delivery date. Such as? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex -

Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ...

2006-09-14 Thread mike wilson
The temptation. But I wouldn't do that. From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Sometimes I forget how good a slapper you are. You can stimulate my aperture any time you like. - Email sent

Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ...

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
On 9/14/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The temptation. But I wouldn't do that. Since when? Go for it ;-) From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Sometimes I forget how good a slapper you are. You can stimulate my

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Patrick Genovese
:-( On 9/14/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/14 Thu AM 09:31:39 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring Check out Phil's preview on this page at the very bottom:

Re: K10D ISO 3200 is Available ...

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
On 9/14/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Sometimes I forget how good a snapper you are. You can simulate my aperture any time you like. Good thing I just finished my drink... Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: istDS Noise @ ISO 3200 - again

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's excellent. The Pentax only gets noisy when the image is underexposed at high ISO. I think users frequently try for 1600 when they really need 3200, hence the reputation for noise. But I too have found that my *istD is remarkably free of noise at high ISO. I expect even better performance

RE: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I still don't know what an aperture simulator is, but the earlier D-series cameras had the same menu setting, and many of us have been using lenses with aperture rings all along. Shel [Original Message] From: Patrick Genovese http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page9.asp There

Re: advice regarding lens

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, but some of the press release material has specifically mentioned the green button. In general, the layout of this camera is closer to that of the D than to the DL or DS. On Sep 14, 2006, at 12:31 AM, Subash Jeyan wrote: thanks davedidn't some of the other cameras use the ae-l button

Re: K10D has auto image rotation

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's why I sold mine several weeks ago. Paul On Sep 14, 2006, at 1:48 AM, Thibouille wrote: The *ist D is officially for sale... CW Oh yours as well? They'll get difficult to sell IMO ^^ Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;)

Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
In the midst of everyone's positive reaction, Tom is desperately grasping for something negative. :-) On Sep 14, 2006, at 1:55 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Tom C wrote: Now, if they can just avoid downgrading it more than twice and concentrate on being forward looking... I can't figure out

Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
No, he'll buy one and then complain endlessly about some imagined shortcoming.:-). But that's what makes life on the PDML so entertaining. Paul On Sep 14, 2006, at 2:57 AM, John Forbes wrote: Nor can Tom. Pentax have just produced the most exciting camera for years (from any manufacturer),

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
No. On Sep 14, 2006, at 5:31 AM, Patrick Genovese wrote: Check out Phil's preview on this page at the very bottom: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page9.asp There is a setting : Using aperture ring 1: Prohibited 2: Permitted Does this mean we can use the aperture ring

Re: PESO- Grace Does Lunch

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Jan. On Sep 14, 2006, at 4:47 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote: Nice shot Paul! On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:30:47 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: In a rather dark corner of a restaurant. DA 12/24, f6.7 @ 1 second, ISO 400. Camera resting on the table.

Re: istDS Noise @ ISO 3200 - again

2006-09-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
If you check the EXIF info, you'll see that the exposure was +0.70 I'm sure that, had I been shooting more to the left the noise would have been quite bad. I've had good results in many situations @ 1600 and 3200, but, as Godders mentioned in another message here, underexposure will make the

Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-14 Thread mike wilson
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/14 Thu AM 09:47:00 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: popphoto.com k10D On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, mike wilson wrote: From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/14 Thu AM 12:06:19 GMT

PESO - ISO 800...but only because I had to

2006-09-14 Thread J and K Messervy
After stating that I don't like the noise you get with higher ISOs, I ended up shooting a few shots at ISO 800 this afternoon. I'm thrilled that I got a bee in flight with the manual focus macro. Anyway, I've done what I can with this noise wise. I'm really pleased with the capture, but not

K 30/2.8 the poor mans FA 31/1.8

2006-09-14 Thread Peter Smekal
Hi folks, I am thinking about buying a 'normal' prime lens for my istD. One obvious choice might be the much praised FA 31/1.8. It's quite expensive however. I have the chance to one of those old K 30/2.8-lenses for a good price, but ... Is the FA 31 worth saving and waiting for? -- PDML

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
Have a look here Shel: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Misc_014.html The circled lever is the aperture simulator on my LX. This is how the body knows what the lens aperture is set to. The lever and the associated electronics are what is missing from all the DSLR's is why we have the green

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:23:48 +0200 schreef Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I still don't know what an aperture simulator is, With pre-A lenses, the lens determines how much it is stopped down. In order to measure exposure wide open, the body must know how much the lens will stop down

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
OK, thanks. I think someone explained this before, but I didn't get it. Now I understand. Shel [Original Message] From: Lucas Rijnders schreef Shel Belinkoff I still don't know what an aperture simulator is, With pre-A lenses, the lens determines how much it is stopped down. In

Re: K 30/2.8 the poor mans FA 31/1.8

2006-09-14 Thread Carlos Royo
Peter Smekal wrote: Hi folks, I am thinking about buying a 'normal' prime lens for my istD. One obvious choice might be the much praised FA 31/1.8. It's quite expensive however. I have the chance to one of those old K 30/2.8-lenses for a good price, but ... Is the FA 31 worth saving and

Re: PESO - ISO 800...but only because I had to

2006-09-14 Thread J and K Messervy
Thanks mate, I'll have a look at those. James - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:17 PM Subject: Re: PESO - ISO 800...but only because I had to Not bad James. WRT noise reduction

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread J and K Messervy
The istDL doesn't have a green button, so I've found that I have to use the DOF preview lever to stop down the lens to get the right exposure settings in M mode. It works but is not quick or convenient. James - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: PESO - ISO 800...but only because I had to

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
Not bad James. WRT noise reduction software have a look at Noise Ninja: http://www.picturecode.com/ or Neat Image (The demo version doesn't but lines through your picture like NN does): http://www.neatimage.com/ Both come in stand alone or plug-in versions Cheers, Dave On 9/14/06, J and K

Re: PESO- Grace Does Lunch

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
I find the left eye distracting. But putting it aside, it's a cute scene. Dave On 9/14/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a rather dark corner of a restaurant. DA 12/24, f6.7 @ 1 second, ISO 400. Camera resting on the table.

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks, Dave ... between your pics and explanation, and Lucas's explanation, I finally got it. I knew all along how the lens/body thing worked on older lenses, but the term aperture simulator threw me. I never knew what it was called. Hard to believe, eh ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From:

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:12:13 +0200 schreef David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have a look here Shel: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Misc_014.html The circled lever is the aperture simulator on my LX. This is how the body knows what the lens aperture is set to. The lever and the

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Carlos Royo
J and K Messervy wrote: The istDL doesn't have a green button, so I've found that I have to use the DOF preview lever to stop down the lens to get the right exposure settings in M mode. It works but is not quick or convenient. You can also use the AE-L button, it does the same than the

Re: istDS Noise @ ISO 3200 - again

2006-09-14 Thread Adam Maas
John, The less light there is, the worse the noise will be. In available dark, even 400 will be noisy, while 3200 si acceptable with enough light. -Adam John Coyle wrote: Shel, I have a feeling that a firmware upgrade may have helped, with the early versions of the D at least. Soon after

Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-14 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: Nor can Tom. Pentax have just produced the most exciting camera for years (from any manufacturer), and Tom is struggling to find something negative to say. But he'll be back on form soon enough, I'm sure. And in due

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 14, 2006, at 7:40 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: I think you picture the diafragm release and the diafragm actuator (nine o'clock position in the mount, right?). Those are the pins responsible for actually stopping the lens down at exposure time, and definately still there in the

Re: advice regarding lens

2006-09-14 Thread graywolf
Sample to sample variation occurs. But the Pentax 50mm 1.7 1.8's have always been up there with the best. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Adam Maas wrote: Compared to what? Every

Re: K 30/2.8 the poor mans FA 31/1.8

2006-09-14 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
At 07:58 AM 9/14/2006, you wrote: Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:08:26 +0200 From: Peter Smekal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: K 30/2.8 the poor mans FA 31/1.8 To: pdml@pdml.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi folks, I am thinking about buying a

Re: Does this mean what I think it means?

2006-09-14 Thread graywolf
Basically, all pushing, or pulling, is is moving the exposure up and down the sensometric curve and adjusting the contrast with processing. RAW converter seems to do about the same thing. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof

Re: advice regarding lens

2006-09-14 Thread Subash Jeyan
hi, i just got myself a K 50/ f 1.2 in very good, almost mint condition, with a hoya 52 mm excel 1b filter thrown in for slightly less than the equivalent of US$ 110. :)) once again, my thanks to everyone who responded to my query... regards, subash On 9/14/06, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
Fuck! Sorry about that. It's been updated. Dave (doesn't know his arse from his elbow) S. On 9/14/06, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:12:13 +0200 schreef David Savage http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Misc_014.html I think you picture the diafragm release

Anyone know what happened to Peter from sunny Brighton

2006-09-14 Thread Rob Brigham
He got me and istD before they were available outside Japan last time, and was looking to get in touch again (for obvious reasons) but he doesn't seem to post on then list anymore and his email says he is away until march 2007. Is he off travelling or something? Cheers Rob -- PDML

Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
I'm not familiar with the green button. I have a question about it and ergonomics. I'm a DS user. When using the pre A lenses I use the AE-L button. I'm told this does the same as the original green button. I'm using the thumb at the AE-L button. After getting used to it, it's no problem, it

Recommendation for telezoom?

2006-09-14 Thread Jostein Øksne
Folks, I have a friend who looks for a cheap telezoom for his film-based Pentax. I haven't paid attention to this part of the lens lineup for years, so I need some help in finding the right recommendations. Do you have any suggestions? I guess he would like a few so that he can make a trade-off

Re: Power Zoom: Available or not?

2006-09-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 13, 2006, at 5:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Look at this official pentax page, http://www.pentaxslr.com/bodies/ k10 and you'll find these words: Power zoom function not available Now scroll down to the bottom of the same page and download the official PDF

Re: advice regarding lens

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/9/06, Subash Jeyan, discombobulated, unleashed: i just got myself a K 50/ f 1.2 in very good, almost mint condition, with a hoya 52 mm excel 1b filter thrown in for slightly less than the equivalent of US$ 110. :)) once again, my thanks to everyone who responded to my query... Well done

Re: Anyone know what happened to Peter from sunny Brighton

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/9/06, Rob Brigham, discombobulated, unleashed: He got me and istD before they were available outside Japan last time, and was looking to get in touch again (for obvious reasons) but he doesn't seem to post on then list anymore and his email says he is away until march 2007. Is he off

Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-14 Thread Jack Davis
The K10D may be all I'll ever 'need', but, like Tom, I'd still like to see Pentax continue to build on this upgrade and the new level of respect it will likely realize. Jack --- John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nor can Tom. Pentax have just produced the most exciting camera for years

Re: Recommendation for telezoom?

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
I've got a cheap Sigma 75-300mm f4.5-5.6 that I used to use with my Z-20 they can have cheap. It's a piece of junk so I can't really recommend it. Dave On 9/14/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, I have a friend who looks for a cheap telezoom for his film-based Pentax. I

OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
This is a small camera but still takes 2 card formats. Is xD compatible with SD? http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06091401olympuse400.asp -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML

RE: Recommendation for telezoom?

2006-09-14 Thread Bill Owens
So far I'm pleased with my Tamron 28-300 Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:06 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Recommendation for telezoom? I've got a cheap Sigma 75-300mm

Re: K10D preview on DP Review

2006-09-14 Thread graywolf
About anytime shooting jpegs, shooting raw it is moot, as you can easily change it during conversion. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Shel Belinkoff wrote: I've never seen the need

On the road

2006-09-14 Thread Bill Owens
I have an appointment with my urologist at Duke tomorrow, so we're leaving this evening and spending the night. The hotel has internet access so I'm taking the computer and hoping it is wireless since I don't have a proper cable for hard wiring. Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
That's a really small camera. I can feel my hands cramping up just looking at it. Dave On 9/14/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a small camera but still takes 2 card formats. Is xD compatible with SD? http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06091401olympuse400.asp -- PDML

Re: Recommendation for telezoom?

2006-09-14 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:38:08 +0200 schreef Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Folks, I have a friend who looks for a cheap telezoom for his film-based Pentax. I haven't paid attention to this part of the lens lineup for years, so I need some help in finding the right recommendations. Do you

RE: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Bill Owens
No, xd is much smaller than a sd. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:59 AM To: pentax list Subject: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF This is a small camera but still takes 2 card formats. Is xD

Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/14/06 9:17 AM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re memory cards, Oly are stuck with the proprietary xD and if anything comes with only xD, the sales would be doomed. So they really have no choice for the dual format. Re the size, this should be what the 4/3 should have been. It

Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/9/06, Bill Owens, discombobulated, unleashed: No, xd is much smaller than a sd. Thanks Bill -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/14/06 9:03 AM, David Savage, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a really small camera. I can feel my hands cramping up just looking at it. Dave On 9/14/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a small camera but still takes 2 card formats. Is xD compatible with SD?

Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/09/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a really small camera. Pentax will be poohing themselves, who wears the crown now. LOL -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/

RE: Does this mean what I think it means?

2006-09-14 Thread Rob Brigham
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/PentaxK10D/Images/Captures/TV2006090616253900-01.jpg This shot which illustrates the in camera RAW processing does indeed suggest setting ISO after the event? Or are they just misleading by using ISO in the display to mean brightness in general? Rob

Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
On 9/14/06, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/09/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a really small camera. Pentax will be poohing themselves, who wears the crown now. LOL Oly. can have it as far as I'm concerned. I find the D without grip too small. Dave --

Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread graywolf
Nope, only Oly and Fuji use them that I know of. They also have not gotten cheap. Consider XD cards as being semi-proprietary. The C-5050Z was the first Oly to use the dual card setup. I still like mine. interestingly it will do about 90% of what I need/want a camera to do. The K10D looks like

Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 14.09.2006, at 15:21 , Digital Image Studio wrote: Pentax will be poohing themselves, who wears the crown now. LOL At least until Optio-S-sized K1000D comes ;-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote: This is a small camera but still takes 2 card formats. Is xD compatible with SD? http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06091401olympuse400.asp All the recent Oly 4/3rds bodies take both. But it's certainly true that this is the first really small DSLR to do so. Bloody small, no

Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-14 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:43:13 +0200 schreef graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A K1000D is an obvious step. At PMA, when the K100 gets the 10Mp chip :o) -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-14 Thread graywolf
A K1000D is an obvious step. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Paul Stenquist wrote: On Sep 13, 2006, at 7:56 PM, Tom C wrote: Now, if they can just avoid downgrading it more than

Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:03:26 +0200 schreef David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's a really small camera. I can feel my hands cramping up just looking at it. Huh? It's about the size of the M-, A-, or MZ-series, which is fine in my book. That K10, on the other hand, comes close to a Z-1.

Re: Does this mean what I think it means?

2006-09-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/09/06, Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/PentaxK10D/Images/Captures/TV2006090616253900-01.jpg This shot which illustrates the in camera RAW processing does indeed suggest setting ISO after the event? Or are they just misleading by using ISO in the

Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
On 9/14/06, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:03:26 +0200 schreef David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's a really small camera. I can feel my hands cramping up just looking at it. Huh? It's about the size of the M-, A-, or MZ-series Yeah. Too small for me to

Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-14 Thread K.Takeshita
On 9/14/06 9:43 AM, graywolf, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A K1000D is an obvious step. And there already are some talks in Japan of K1D to be launched in 2007. At this point, I of course have to regard it as rumours/speculations. But when Pentax reasonably complete their FDA line of lenses with

Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/09/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find the D without grip too small. I definitely wouldn't be fazed to own a larger camera, even 5D sized at this stage though the M8 does look tempting ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL

Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Adam Maas
David Savage wrote: On 9/14/06, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:03:26 +0200 schreef David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's a really small camera. I can feel my hands cramping up just looking at it. Huh? It's about the size of the M-, A-, or MZ-series Yeah.

PDML Mini-FAQ Link

2006-09-14 Thread gray_wolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

More K10D tech details

2006-09-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
237 RAW (PEF or DNG) files to a 4GB card The most likely sensor, matches most of the published camera specs plus pads visually match: http://www.sony.co.jp/Products/SC-HP/cx_pal/vol69/pdf/icx493aqa.pdf And it appears to utilize dual Nucore ADCs -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel

Re: Green button and ergonomics.

2006-09-14 Thread Adam Maas
Tim Øsleby wrote: I'm not familiar with the green button. I have a question about it and ergonomics. I'm a DS user. When using the pre A lenses I use the AE-L button. I'm told this does the same as the original green button. I'm using the thumb at the AE-L button. After getting used to it,

RE: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
Hands-on review here http://www.digit.no/wip4/detail.epl?id=98892 Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 14. september 2006 14:59 To: pentax list Subject: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF

2006-09-14 Thread graywolf
For Cotty and anyone else who wants to know the reletive sizes of CF, SD, and XD cards a QD snapshot: http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Cards.jpg -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof

Re: Anyone know what happened to Peter from sunny Brighton

2006-09-14 Thread mike wilson
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/14 Thu PM 12:34:19 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Anyone know what happened to Peter from sunny Brighton He got me and istD before they were available outside Japan last time, and was looking to get in touch

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