Re: OT: SpaceX last night was simply awesome

[P.J. Alling]

I think one of SpaceX's issues is the attempt to land at Sea.  Though 
given their launch site that may be their only option.


On 1/17/2016 5:25 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

SpaceX had another successful launch & satellite deployment today, but
had a leg lock failure when trying to make the 1st Stage's upright
landing on a drone ship in the ocean. They have yet to pull that one
off. If you want to get a glimpse at the optomistic entrepreneur
attitude, look no farther than Elon Musk's tweet releasing the news:
"Well, at least the pieces were bigger this time!"




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Re: GESO: Rarotonga

[Mark C]

Fine collection - looks like a really nice place!

Mark

On 1/16/2016 9:29 PM, David Mann wrote:

The weather is crap today so I've forced myself to sit down and put my photos 
from Rarotonga online.  I've chosen 20 for a gallery and will drip-feed more as 
PESOs as I feel like it.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/gallery/60/#geso

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Temptation

[Collin B]

Local shop has a very clean K3 with grip ($550) & 18-135 WR DC ($250) for a
seemingly reasonable $800.
I'm happy with the K5, though picking it up is like they're coated in drugs
and these drugs soak into you system through your fingertips and eye. It
happens so quickly you don't even notice.
My Kx at work -- it's getting replaced. The last few months it has developed
some stuck pixels.  Not worth the repair cost.  Replacing it even with a
used camera would be preferable.
And at the price of new & used quality Pentax stuff, it's tempting just to
be able to use it every day ...

Only other item of note is an old F 50/1.4 for $250.


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Re: OT: SpaceX last night was simply awesome

[John]

They're saying one of the landing legs failed to lock in place; possibly
due to ice. Elon Musk said "they" think ice came from moisture that
built up due to the launch taking place during a heavy fog.

I don't think it was where they were attempting to land, so much as
where they launched from.

Seems like even with all the problems they're having getting their
reusable booster to land properly, they are still delivering the
payloads into orbit as promised. All the problems seem to be happening
after they've completed the jobs they contracted for.

On 1/18/2016 9:32 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

I think one of SpaceX's issues is the attempt to land at Sea.  Though
given their launch site that may be their only option.

On 1/17/2016 5:25 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

SpaceX had another successful launch & satellite deployment today, but
had a leg lock failure when trying to make the 1st Stage's upright
landing on a drone ship in the ocean. They have yet to pull that one
off. If you want to get a glimpse at the optomistic entrepreneur
attitude, look no farther than Elon Musk's tweet releasing the news:
"Well, at least the pieces were bigger this time!"






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Re: Temptation

[John]

On 1/18/2016 12:27 PM, Collin B wrote:

Local shop has a very clean K3 with grip ($550) & 18-135 WR DC ($250) for a
seemingly reasonable $800.
I'm happy with the K5, though picking it up is like they're coated in drugs
and these drugs soak into you system through your fingertips and eye. It
happens so quickly you don't even notice.
My Kx at work -- it's getting replaced. The last few months it has developed
some stuck pixels.  Not worth the repair cost.  Replacing it even with a
used camera would be preferable.
And at the price of new & used quality Pentax stuff, it's tempting just to
be able to use it every day ...

Only other item of note is an old F 50/1.4 for $250.




Any way you can finagle your work site into buying your K5 off of you
for enough to cover the cost of that used K-3?


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Re: K-1 Sensor

[John]

I'm still hoping they'll use the A7rII's 42mp sensor, but my guess is it
will be the one from the A7r.

Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.

On 1/17/2016 9:36 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

All good points, P.J.
Odds are good that you are right and my conjecture is all wet.

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 8:27 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:

But we all knew that was less than smart.  Though Fuji seems to be doing a
pretty good job with their APS-C only system.  (Though Fuji fanboys also
seem to have FF vs APS-C flame wars.  Which is pretty funny considering that
for Fuji APS-C is full frame)*.

*I've also seen full frame vs M43 flame wars on Panasonic and Olympus fora,
which is also pretty funny.


On 1/17/2016 9:19 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


They already tried explaining the reasoning behind pursuing an APS-C
only product line, and see where that got them.


On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 8:56 PM, P.J. Alling 
wrote:


I can't imagine why they would go with a 42mp sensor.  Extreme high
resolution mp sensors are for companies that don't have a medium format
solution on the shelf. What you want to do is educate the user base on
why
they should want to aspire to having a medium format system, and make the
reasons for having a Pentax more compelling than the competition, and how
could it not be, since the competition is either outrageously priced or
even
more outrageously priced?


On 1/17/2016 8:35 PM, Darren Addy wrote:


I continue to believe that it will be the 42MP Sony sensor used in the
Sony Sony a7R II and recently Cyber-shot RX1R II. A 36MP sensor would
be a significant upgrade from the current 24.3MP APS-C line, of
course, but that 36MP sensor has been around so long that I feel
Pentax would be opening themselves up to "Why didn't I just switch
brands when Nikon released the 800/800E 4 years earlier (though, to be
fair, the Pentax offering would probably be better compared with the
Nikon D810, which was introduced a mere TWO years ago).

Based on what other manufacturer's full frame camera owners have said,
a full frame sensor will definitely impact the selection of lenses you
are satisfied with. You don't have to be a big pixel peeper to detect
poor corner performance and this is the area that I expect to be the
differentiator. Although it is "mind over matter". If you don't mind -
it don't matter!



On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 1:58 PM, John  wrote:


On 1/17/2016 12:51 PM, Kim Tang wrote:


Good Sunday morning.

Any bets as to what size sensor, in MP, the K-1 will have? 24, 36, 42?

Manufacturer?

How will a given size impact lens suitability?

I'm coming from a K20D.

Kim


Rumors I remember have it as the same sensor Sony used in their A7r. Be
nice if it's the same as the A7r II.




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Re: Temptation

[Larry Colen]

Collin B wrote:

Local shop has a very clean K3 with grip ($550)&  18-135 WR DC ($250) for a
seemingly reasonable $800.
I'm happy with the K5, though picking it up is like they're coated in drugs
and these drugs soak into you system through your fingertips and eye. It
happens so quickly you don't even notice.


The K3 has many real world advantages over the K5, small but significant 
improvements.  It also has a few drawbacks. I don't like that I can't 
set astrotracer times less than 10 seconds.  Some of the new menus could 
be done better, many of those from adding more features.


The nice thing is that in many ways it is close enough to the K5 that 
they feel the same in your hands, and many of the buttons are in the 
same place.  One problem is that they feel the same in your hands and 
when you are switching between them it is hard to remember which one you 
are using, so you know where to press the buttons that have moved.




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Re: K-1 Sensor

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On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> Kim Tang wrote:
>>
>> Good Sunday morning.
>>
>> Any bets as to what size sensor, in MP, the K-1 will have? 24, 36, 42?

I'm still using this.:
http://www.polaroidland.net/2012/02/03/instant-artifact-the-flintstones-polarock-camera/

Dave
>
>
> I think that the leaked specs say about 36MP
>>
>>
>> Manufacturer?
>
> They've been having good luck with the Sony lenses.
>
>>
>> How will a given size impact lens suitability?
>
>
> Very little, unless you spend all of your time pixel peeping.  Lower
> resolution sensors may allow you to use slower glass because you could use
> higher ISO. Higher resolution would mean less chance of aliasing, even with
> sharper glass.
>
>>
>> I'm coming from a K20D.
>
> Unless you already have a bunch of FF capable lenses, then simply moving to
> a K-5 or a K-3 would give you a mindblowing improvement in performance. With
> APS lenses, you will get the highest resolution with a K-3 (higher pixel
> density than any expected FF sensor).
>
> If most of your lenses are APS, I would be tempted to recommend that you
> wait for the associated price drop on the K3 II, buy one of those, and start
> building up your FF lens collection, then moving to FF after the prices have
> dropped.
>
> There is the hope, however, that the newer sensor will have better low light
> performance being newer and lower pixel density. So, if you do most of your
> shooting in challenging light, there is that advantage to the new sensor.
> But, if you did a lot of shooting in lousy light, you would have at least
> switched to a K-r years ago, because in sensor performance even a used K-r
> will blow the doors off your K20.
>
>>
>> Kim
>>
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Re: OT: Enablement? 4x5 film holders (Any ideas?)

[Mark C]

Pinholes are a ton of fun. I've been using a TLR converted to a pinhole 
- a very simple and easy system to work with:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/kinoflex-tlr-pinhole?blog=9

On my camera, the pinhole is not very good - its only ~ f180 and was 
drilled, not a laser hole. So lots of distortion but not the real long 
times that come at higher f stops. But, the finder lens in the TLR 
corresponds well with the pinhole "lens" so framing shots in very easy, 
and the finder lens is actually quite bright. Just set the camera to "B" 
mode and shoot away. Looking at my camera - it was modified simply by 
removing the glass lens and replacing it with a pinhole. No need to 
change the shutter or anything else. Seems like a simple modification 
for the mechanically inclined, and even "broken" tlrs - clouded lenses, 
stuck apertures, inaccurate shutters - could be converted so long as the 
shutter B (or T) mode works and film can still be spooled into it.


I tried using a 6x7 Pinhole body cap from this place:

http://www.pinholeedun.com/Products_and_Ordering.html

Much better pinhole than the TLR but you can't frame up the shot with 
the body cap in place - so you get into lens swapping. (A finder that 
corresponds to a normal lens might work and I have one (for the Pentax 
Q) that would fit into a flash hotshoe - if only the 6x7 had a 
hotshoe...) Also the body cap is not light proof so either you get light 
leaks or use some kind of tape to block the light leaks... More fiddly 
than the TLR approach but it produces some nice results.


Have fun!

Mark




On 1/16/2016 11:10 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Not that anybody has expressed any interest, but it is a slow weekend
so I'm going to post a little follow-up.

My recent 4x5 sheet film holder enablement has reignited my desire to
get into pinhole cameras. I've had such a hankering since at least
back to 2009 when I bookmarked a bunch of resources. Never having
enough books, I ordered Brian J. Krummel's "The Pinhole Camera" (which
has great reviews) and it arrived late this week.

The thing that fascinates me about pinhole is the stretching of time
through long exposures. It causes you to look at scenes in a
different way. Sort of like using a 10x ND filter, but different. Also
the extreme "f-stop" means that everything is in focus (extreme DOF).
I also like that there are a million different ways to make pinhole
cameras: flat film plane, curved film plane, anamorphic film plane...
each with different results. You can use photographic paper for the
negatives or film for the negatives.

I also like the whimsy potential of many pinhole cameras (oatmeal
boxes, empty paint cans, wooden cigar boxes, etc.) You can also
exercise your woodworking skills, if you like. This 13 part YouTube
video series is a little slow and tedious, but also very educational
(showing workarounds when things don't go 100% according to plans)...
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LktSccQhfbM

In other enablement news, I've got a thing for Pentax preset lenses
and I found a minty 1957 Takumar 135mm f3.5 with original leather case
and the metal lens cap that says simply "PENTAX". I've wanted that
lens cap for a long time. So it is on its way now. It will find its
place alongside my other preset lenses, the Macro-Takumar 50mm f/4,
the Tele-Takumar 200mm f/5.6 and 300mm f/6.3, and the Takumar 200mm
f/3.5. I've also got a preset Auto Vivitar 85mm f/1.8 but I've got
some difficulty (T-mount or otherwise) because I can't make it reach
infinity focus.


On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:25 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

There's a stall on Greenwich market which sells them as picture frames.

B


On 4 Jan 2016, at 01:30, Darren Addy  wrote:

I call upon the PDML Collective Hive for ideas (and, optionally,
LINKS) to fun things to do with 4x5 film holders. I tripped across a
box of some, priced too cheaply, at a local antique store and bought
the lot intending to sell the majority.

However, I intend to keep 2 or 3 for myself. One obvious project would
be to make a pinhole camera. Anyone have a favorite design (or plans)
to share? (PS: International Pinhole Photography Day is April 24,
2016)

I've also seen some ultrawide (think Hasselblad SWC) cameras built,
but those would require the future purchase of a wide lens/shutter
combo that is outside my planned expenditures for at least a while.

Alternative ideas are also welcomed. I have no 4x5 camera ATTM, but I
suppose buying or building one of those from scratch would be another
possibility. I do have a 4x5 enlarger and paper up to 20x24 that I'm
itching to do SOMETHING with.

PS... if you are interested, a good video 5 minute video on Pinhole
can be found here:
http://www.withoutlenses.com/articles/general/about-pinhole-from-nancy-breslin


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Re: London PDML meet: Mitchell Under Glass

[Rick Womer]

Compound distortion, from fisheye + wine glass. I like it.

Rick

On Jan 18, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> ...or behind glass.
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e001511.jpg
> 
> (Bob W. looking stern on the left.)
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Re: mini GESO - January snaps

[ann sanfedele]

Thanks Christine!

ann

On 1/18/2016 3:09 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Ann:  Fun set.  I really like 3!  Cheers, Christine



On Jan 11, 2016, at 12:54 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

The second could have been my entry for this month's PUG... I like it better 
than what I did submit.

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2016-and-all-that/

These were all taken on one day - I had been uptown having yet another freen 
lunch with a friend (the endless birthday feedings)

after lunch I took my NYC ID card to MOMA to get my free one year membership  - 
This is was good thing our mayor did -
Now I can afford to go to all the zoosand theacquarium, and the Bronx and 
Brooklyn botanical gardens, and sundry other museums
(alas, the new WHITNEY is not on the list)... so perhaps I'll get more shooting 
in this year than last , although getting about is
getting more tiring and the camera gets heavier every day.

anyway, comments appreciated. as posted there are only 5 photos  - I might add 
a coule more soon

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Re: Peso, the walking machine

[Mark C]

Not only walking... he's got the bull horn gesture down as well. Nice shot.

Mark

On 1/17/2016 1:07 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Clark started to walk about 15 days ago. Can't stop him now.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18162130

K-5 sometimes working Sigma 17-70, Pentax AF 360 flash, LR 4 red
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Re: PESO 2016 - 016 - GDG

[Mark C]

Really great lighting and tonality - a quietly dramatic photo.

On 1/17/2016 10:23 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

A walk sometime last Fall ...

   https://flic.kr/p/DetJUz

enjoy!
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OT: Dumb thing I just noticed

[Bill]

My Samsung camera phone is the equivalent of 31mm on the 35mm camera format.

Carry in.

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Re: OT: Piecing Time Together

[Alan C]

I already saw the Serengeti one. I still can't figure out how he does it. 
How come are there no ghosts or overlapping animals? At first I though it 
had been Photoshopped but apparently not. I will give it a go when I 
eventually get to the bottom of it. Thanks, Dan.


Alan C

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An interesting photographic technique:

http://proof.nationalgeographic.com/2016/01/05/piecing-together-time-in-the-ultimate-brain-puzzle/?utm_source=NatGeocom_medium=Email_content=pom_20160117_campaign=Content_rd=1642455031

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Re: OT: Dumb thing I just noticed

[Ken Waller]

Yeah, but does it have an aperture stimulator ?

I like take out myself.


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>My Samsung camera phone is the equivalent of 31mm on the 35mm camera format.
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PESO - Shadows

[Rick Womer]

I've shot this sculpture on the Penn medical campus many times on my way to and 
from work, but the sunlight was striking it in a way I hadn't seen before:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18160923=lg

(K-5, DA 40/2.8 Ltd.)

Comments appreciated.

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OT: Piecing Time Together

[Daniel J. Matyola]

An interesting photographic technique:

http://proof.nationalgeographic.com/2016/01/05/piecing-together-time-in-the-ultimate-brain-puzzle/?utm_source=NatGeocom_medium=Email_content=pom_20160117_campaign=Content_rd=1642455031

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Re: K-1 Sensor

[Bill]

On 1/18/2016 1:53 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:



Kim Tang wrote:


Good Sunday morning.

Any bets as to what size sensor, in MP, the K-1 will have? 24, 36, 42?


I'm still using this.:
http://www.polaroidland.net/2012/02/03/instant-artifact-the-flintstones-polarock-camera/



Don't laugh. In 1962 I was 5 years old, remember seeing that show, and 
thinking yeah, developing pictures, that would be fun.
G, I can't remember what I had yesterday for lunch, but I remember 
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Re: GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

[Alan C]

Very nostalgic. My brother had a 128, the same colour, when he lived in 
Durban. Eventually rust got the better of it & the whole front end 
collapsed. I had a metallic brown 504 (S/H) from 1976 to 1979. It is the 
only can I have had which could do over 200kph!


Alan C

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Subject: GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

A couple of my 1:43 scale model cars ... Peugeot 504 and FIAT 128.

 https://flic.kr/s/aHsksdEE5A

Enjoy!

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Re: London PDML meet: Mitchell Under Glass

[Ken Waller]

And the wine, don't forget about the wine.

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>Compound distortion, from fisheye + wine glass. I like it.
>
>Rick
>
>On Jan 18, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> ...or behind glass.
>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e001511.jpg
>> 
>> (Bob W. looking stern on the left.)



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Re: GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Thanks for all the comments! It's been quite fun to read through them. :-)

> On Jan 18, 2016, at 8:13 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Very nostalgic. My brother had a 128, the same colour, when he lived in 
> Durban. Eventually rust got the better of it & the whole front end collapsed. 
> I had a metallic brown 504 (S/H) from 1976 to 1979. It is the only can I have 
> had which could do over 200kph!

FIAT 128 … I sent the photo of the model to my uncle. He responded, "I remember 
that car. You gave me a ride to pick up my car at the dealership (he had a 
Porsche at the time). That was the fastest, most terrifying drive in a car I 
ever had. It's what made me realize that when it came to speed insane, you and 
your brother were off the charts." The FIAT was an wonderful little bastid to 
drive: no power, just leave your foot on the floor all the time and slam the 
shifter around as needed. I ended up giving it to a friend at some point, for 
some reason. He drove it until the motor broke. 

Peugeot 504 … Mine was a 1976 diesel model, bought cheap ($600), old (in 1988), 
and very used (over 200,000 miles when I got it). I think it would make it to 
80 mph (128kph) with a tailwind, downhill on a good day. ;-) It was delightful 
to drive anyway, but it broke the timing chain about a year after I got it and 
was too expensive to fix. 

Good memories with both of them. Hmm. Broken motors was a theme for me and my 
friends for a while there. ;-)

G
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PESO - Austin -- bird's eye view

[Igor PDML-StR]

Downtown Austin, TX - from the aluminum bird's eye view:
http://42graphy.org/misc/Austin_IR31341.jpg

All comments are welcome.

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Re: GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

[Larry Colen]

WILSON MICHAEL wrote:

On 18 January 2016 at 20:53 Bob W-PDML  wrote:


Ah, Godfrey, in both cases you're only one digit away from being the coolest
facker in cool-fackerdom.

My first car was a rusted old Fiat 127 Mirafiori, which went like shit off a
stick until the engine blew up. I bought it for £100- and sold it, in pieces,
for £200-.

I had a Peugeot for a while too, but not the cool car of la nouvelle vague,
which was the 404. You coulda been Belmondo...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sjGiZa9VTPE


There's a body shop in Oakland that is closing up after just shy of 100 
years.  They're selling off a bunch of old Citroen body panels, but none 
from that car.





The 404 is not a cool French car.  This is a cool French car.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WekoUHKJIaY/VZDk-axEYWI/Gwk/RHk4CWVi8g8/s1600/KARIN.jpg

Tres chic.  Or summat.



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Re: OT: Piecing Time Together

[John]

I've read several other articles about him. He's been pretty much
everywhere in the news for the last week or so. The images are
absolutely Photoshopped - meticulously. He spends hours layering the
images in post-processing; far longer than the time he spends capturing
them.

On 1/18/2016 11:22 PM, Alan C wrote:

I already saw the Serengeti one. I still can't figure out how he does
it. How come are there no ghosts or overlapping animals? At first I
though it had been Photoshopped but apparently not. I will give it a go
when I eventually get to the bottom of it. Thanks, Dan.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
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An interesting photographic technique:

http://proof.nationalgeographic.com/2016/01/05/piecing-together-time-in-the-ultimate-brain-puzzle/?utm_source=NatGeocom_medium=Email_content=pom_20160117_campaign=Content_rd=1642455031


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Re: PESO - Shadows

[Bob W-PDML]

Nicely done

> On 19 Jan 2016, at 02:43, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> I've shot this sculpture on the Penn medical campus many times on my way to 
> and from work, but the sunlight was striking it in a way I hadn't seen before:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18160923=lg
> 
> (K-5, DA 40/2.8 Ltd.)
> 
> Comments appreciated.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
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Re: GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

[Larry Colen]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Thanks for all the comments! It's been quite fun to read through them. :-)


On Jan 18, 2016, at 8:13 PM, Alan C  wrote:

Very nostalgic. My brother had a 128, the same colour, when he lived in Durban. 
Eventually rust got the better of it&  the whole front end collapsed. I had a 
metallic brown 504 (S/H) from 1976 to 1979. It is the only can I have had which 
could do over 200kph!


FIAT 128 … I sent the photo of the model to my uncle. He responded, "I remember that 
car. You gave me a ride to pick up my car at the dealership (he had a Porsche at the 
time). That was the fastest, most terrifying drive in a car I ever had. It's what made me 
realize that when it came to speed insane, you and your brother were off the 
charts." The FIAT was an wonderful little bastid to drive: no power, just leave your 
foot on the floor all the time and slam the shifter around as needed. I ended up giving 
it to a friend at some point, for some reason. He drove it until the motor broke.


The thing I liked about FIATs is that they made my Sprite seem as 
reliable as a Honda.  I drove it to an Autocross in Sacramento one day 
with several friends in X1/9s.  I think we stopped about every 30-40 
miles to fix one of the FIATs.  On the way back, I was getting bored 
waiting for FIAT repairs to finish so I tried fixing a very very minor 
leak where my radiator hose clamped to the line to the heater, and ended 
up tearing the hose in half.  Fortunately we had stopped next to a parts 
store and I was able to get a hose that would get me home.




Peugeot 504 … Mine was a 1976 diesel model, bought cheap ($600), old (in 1988), 
and very used (over 200,000 miles when I got it). I think it would make it to 
80 mph (128kph) with a tailwind, downhill on a good day. ;-) It was delightful 
to drive anyway, but it broke the timing chain about a year after I got it and 
was too expensive to fix.


I had a student one day at Sears Point in some turbocharged Peugot.  It 
was like driving a turbocharged living room bolted to the deck of a 
small boat.  It's not so much that the handling was nautical, but going 
into a turn it was about as steady as a la-Z boy recliner balanced on 
four innertubes int he water.




Good memories with both of them. Hmm. Broken motors was a theme for me and my 
friends for a while there. ;-)

G


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Re: GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

[Steve Sharpe]

I learned to drive in my dad's 1969 404 wagon. The rear cargo deck was 
mahogany and the front seats were very comfortable. The back seat was 
another story. With a 1.6L 80HP engine and three on the tree, its 
performance was...leisurely. And did it ever rust!

When he died in 2009 and his will (last updated in 1976) was read, he 
had left the car to me. By then it was long gone, though.

On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:15:27 -0600, Darren Addy wrote:
> A couple of brothers that moved to Nebraska from California that I
> knew in the 80s had Peugeot 504s. They loved them (as did their father
> who drove a newer more upscale model). I think partly they just
> enjoyed being different. No idea what they tangibly liked about them
> but, especially in Nebraska, if they needed repair work you'd better
> be able to do it yourself because none of the mechanics knew jack
> about them. I do recall that they were quite comfortable (seat
> ergonomics) for long distances, particularly compared to the dreck
> that Detroit was mostly putting out in the 80's.
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Re: mini GESO - January snaps

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Ann:  Fun set.  I really like 3!  Cheers, Christine


> On Jan 11, 2016, at 12:54 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> The second could have been my entry for this month's PUG... I like it better 
> than what I did submit.
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2016-and-all-that/
> 
> These were all taken on one day - I had been uptown having yet another freen 
> lunch with a friend (the endless birthday feedings)
> 
> after lunch I took my NYC ID card to MOMA to get my free one year membership  
> - This is was good thing our mayor did -
> Now I can afford to go to all the zoosand theacquarium, and the Bronx and 
> Brooklyn botanical gardens, and sundry other museums
> (alas, the new WHITNEY is not on the list)... so perhaps I'll get more 
> shooting in this year than last , although getting about is
> getting more tiring and the camera gets heavier every day.
> 
> anyway, comments appreciated. as posted there are only 5 photos  - I might 
> add a coule more soon
> 
> ann
> 
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Re: dang 600mm lens

[Gonz]

I don't know what I would use it for except birding. Saw a pair of
nesting bald eagles once and could not get closer due to them being
private property.  I took some pics using a 300 2.8, but the 600 would
have been much better in this situation.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 7:30 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 1/9/2016 11:28 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>> I believe Bill Robb has one.
>>
>>
> I have the K mount version (A*600/ 5.6).
>
> On APS-C, fringing is a non issue. I intend to find out this year if it's an
> issue on full frame.
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Re: GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

[WILSON MICHAEL]

> On 18 January 2016 at 20:53 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ah, Godfrey, in both cases you're only one digit away from being the coolest
> facker in cool-fackerdom.
> 
> My first car was a rusted old Fiat 127 Mirafiori, which went like shit off a
> stick until the engine blew up. I bought it for £100- and sold it, in pieces,
> for £200-.
> 
> I had a Peugeot for a while too, but not the cool car of la nouvelle vague,
> which was the 404. You coulda been Belmondo...
> 
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sjGiZa9VTPE

The 404 is not a cool French car.  This is a cool French car.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WekoUHKJIaY/VZDk-axEYWI/Gwk/RHk4CWVi8g8/s1600/KARIN.jpg

Tres chic.  Or summat.

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Re: GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

[Darren Addy]

A couple of brothers that moved to Nebraska from California that I
knew in the 80s had Peugeot 504s. They loved them (as did their father
who drove a newer more upscale model). I think partly they just
enjoyed being different. No idea what they tangibly liked about them
but, especially in Nebraska, if they needed repair work you'd better
be able to do it yourself because none of the mechanics knew jack
about them. I do recall that they were quite comfortable (seat
ergonomics) for long distances, particularly compared to the dreck
that Detroit was mostly putting out in the 80's.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi
 wrote:
> A couple of my 1:43 scale model cars ... Peugeot 504 and FIAT 128.
>
>   https://flic.kr/s/aHsksdEE5A
>
> Enjoy!
>
> G
>
> The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it.
>
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Re: GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

[Bob W-PDML]

On 18 Jan 2016, at 21:06, WILSON MICHAEL  wrote:

>> On 18 January 2016 at 20:53 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Ah, Godfrey, in both cases you're only one digit away from being the coolest
>> facker in cool-fackerdom.
>> 
>> My first car was a rusted old Fiat 127 Mirafiori, which went like shit off a
>> stick until the engine blew up. I bought it for £100- and sold it, in pieces,
>> for £200-.
>> 
>> I had a Peugeot for a while too, but not the cool car of la nouvelle vague,
>> which was the 404. You coulda been Belmondo...
>> 
>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sjGiZa9VTPE
> 
> The 404 is not a cool French car.  This is a cool French car.
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WekoUHKJIaY/VZDk-axEYWI/Gwk/RHk4CWVi8g8/s1600/KARIN.jpg
> 
> Tres chic.  Or summat.
> 

Has it got Anna Karina in it? Or maybe Jean Seberg, or BB, or Mireille Darc? 
No? Can't be cool then.


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Re: GESO: Rarotonga

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Dave:  Excellent!

Contemplation, Beached, and Refraction are my favs.

Very pretty place!  Cheers, Christine


> On Jan 16, 2016, at 8:29 PM, David Mann  wrote:
> 
> The weather is crap today so I've forced myself to sit down and put my photos 
> from Rarotonga online.  I've chosen 20 for a gallery and will drip-feed more 
> as PESOs as I feel like it.
> 
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/gallery/60/#geso
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
> 
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Re: mini GESO - January snaps

[Jack Davis]

No. 3, 4, me 2.
J



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> On Jan 18, 2016, at 12:09 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> good thing our mayor did -

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Re: London PDML meet: Mitchell Under Glass

[Bob W-PDML]

On 18 Jan 2016, at 20:45, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> ...or behind glass.
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e001511.jpg
> 
> (Bob W. looking stern on the left.)
> 

Just trying to hold still while you used my head as a reflector.

B

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Re: PESO -- Life of the Party, [and a mini review of the Sigma Zoom 70-210mm f4.0~5.6 UC-II]

[Christine Aguila]

I agree about the color cast, but the body position of the two girls is 
excellent!  Cheers, Christine


> On Jan 17, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> Nice shot - I agree with Ann about the colour cast but otherwise
> enjoyable.
> 
> I think I had that same lens (or very similar, at least) and used it on
> my film cameras for a while before replacing it with a Pentax F 70-210. 
> I don't think I ever used it on digital.
> 
> Sigma lenses (older ones, anyway) seem to be identified oddly by
> software.  When I had an 18-125 Sigma, it always got identified as
> Pentax F 28-80mm F3.5-4.5, and more than a few of shots taken with the
> lens were outside that focal length range.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016, at 09:46 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:
>> Part of a continuing series, (of people, usually young, more interested 
>> in their hand held devices, than the events at hand).
>> 
>> First the PESO
>> 
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20LifeoftheParty.html
>> 
>> Equipment: Pentax K5II w/Sigma Zoom 70-210mm f4.0~5.6 UC-II
>> 
>> Now a the beginning of a possible multi part review of the afor 
>> mentioned lens.  A series that could be subtitled as "Photography on no 
>> budget".
>> 
>> A little back story.  I've been gifted with this nice, but, pedestrian 
>> Sigma 70-210mm Zoom.  Nothing special, really.  I haven't been able to 
>> find out a lot about it.  It's not current in the Sigma line, but I was 
>> able to find a PDF of an old Sigma Catalog and it was one of their 
>> offerings from 1995.  Which caused a bit trepidation on my part as that 
>> was the tale end of the Sig[nificant] Ma[lfunctions] period of Sigmas 
>> history.
>> 
>> It as near as I can tell it was intended to be an alternative to the OEM 
>> offering in a two lens kit.  I'll compare it to the Pentax F 70-210mmm 
>> though in reality it was more likely competition for the FA 70-200mm.  I 
>> haven't done a lot of shooting with it as yet, the weather's been 
>> miserable, cold and overcast when it's not actually rainy, and like the 
>> F 70-210 it's, kinda slow, so I've been using it mostly indoors bumping 
>> up the ISO quite a bit.  I had to shoot an event this weekend, so I 
>> dropped it into my bag, (it doesn't take up much room and doesn't weigh 
>> much), and shot a few available light of pictures with it.  The PESO 
>> above is one of the results.
>> 
>> So how does this lens stack up?
>> 
>> The build quality pretty good, but, it is mostly plastic.  The aperture 
>> ring has full marked f stops from 4-32 and half click stops for the 
>> whole range.  Where the Pentax F has both a metal inner and outer barrel 
>> the Sigma is all Plastic.  It does have a nice metal, looks like 
>> stainless steel, lens mount.  Aside from the materials the zoom ring is 
>> nicely damped, at least as pleasant as that on the Pentax F.
>> 
>> The focus ring is also nicely damped for an auto focus lens, with a 
>> considerably shorter throw from it's closest focus to infinity than the 
>> F 70-210 which is not damped at all.  I'd say the focus feel is about 
>> that of the Pentax FA 20-35mm maybe even a little better.
>> 
>> There is provision for a bayonet mount lens hood, but it's at least 10 
>> years old so it would be good luck finding one, Sigma certainly doesn't 
>> seem to offer them.
>> 
>> Auto focus using the K-5II is very quick, in all but the dimmest light 
>> it just snaps into focus.
>> 
>> My preliminary judgement on it's optical characteristics is that it's 
>> not quite as good as the Pentax F 70-210mm though I'm not sure how much 
>> image softness is attributable to the the higher ISO's I've been using.  
>> The sigma seems to be softer wide open throughout it's range, and seems 
>> to have lower inherent contrast than the Pentax F, I'll be able to tell 
>> better when I get a chance to shoot in bright sunlight.  It does seem to 
>> sharpen up when stopped down even 1 stop.
>> 
>> I haven't noticed any Chromatic Aberration to speak of and there doesn't 
>> seem to be much in the way distortion either.  Straight lines seem to be 
>> in fact straight.
>> 
>> So what are the drawbacks?  Let's just say for the record that based on 
>> what I paid for it, there are none.  I got it for free.  However there 
>> are a couple of piddly annoyances that I've noticed so far. Pentax 
>> Digital Camera Utility want's to identify this lens as an F 35-105 
>> f4-5.6 which is certainly interesting when it tells me the photo was 
>> taken at 110mm,  DXO Optics Pro 8 thinks that it's a Sigma 70-300 and 
>> wants to apply those lens corrections.  At least they got the 
>> manufacture correct.  My ancient copy of Photoshop won't even attempt to 
>> identify the lens, even though they are contemporaneous. Using an 
>> electronic flash the exposures can 

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GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

A couple of my 1:43 scale model cars ... Peugeot 504 and FIAT 128. 

  https://flic.kr/s/aHsksdEE5A

Enjoy! 

G

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Re: GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

[Bob W-PDML]

Ah, Godfrey, in both cases you're only one digit away from being the coolest 
facker in cool-fackerdom.

My first car was a rusted old Fiat 127 Mirafiori, which went like shit off a 
stick until the engine blew up. I bought it for £100- and sold it, in pieces, 
for £200-.

I had a Peugeot for a while too, but not the cool car of la nouvelle vague, 
which was the 404. You coulda been Belmondo...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sjGiZa9VTPE

B

> On 18 Jan 2016, at 20:17, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> A couple of my 1:43 scale model cars ... Peugeot 504 and FIAT 128. 
> 
>  https://flic.kr/s/aHsksdEE5A
> 
> Enjoy! 
> 
> G
> 
> The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it.
> 
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Re: GESO 2016 - scale models - GDG

[Mark Roberts]

On 1/18/2016 3:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

A couple of my 1:43 scale model cars ... Peugeot 504 and FIAT 128.

   https://flic.kr/s/aHsksdEE5A


Cool. Next time you're in the UK you should check out St. Martin's 
Models, a tiny shop with an amazing assortment of this kind of thing. 
It's incongruously located in Cecil Court, which is otherwise packed 
with rare book dealers (it's off Charing Cross). By the way: Last week 
at one of the book shops there I saw an *original* copy of HCB's 
Decisive Moment in very nice condition. I didn't even ask the price...




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