Re: Thunderbird help.. a small disaster!

[Henk Terhell]

Perhaps you can search for specific words that should be within the ebay 
folder, and if it shows up see what file location it has.



Op 2018-03-10 om 02:19 schreef ann sanfedele:
I have my inbox in thunderbird with two subfolders (in addition to top 
folder)  PDML and EBAY ... I download ALL my mail.. hardly ever look 
at it on line..
I use it as a file system of information ... I was fiddling with font 
sizes just now and suddenly POOF -- the ebay folder disappeared 
TOTAY!

I have email going from 2015 to the present .
What could I have done?  Have I simply hid the folder by hitting a 
wrong key?


I started to go for help on line and got to a place where someone was 
going to charge me for the answer.  gr.


I'm on WIndows 7 pro - as I think most of you who also use thunderbird 
might remember. (or not ;-))


It has to be hiding somewhwere, right?

should I do system restore to a couple of hours ago? or is there 
something simple within Thunderbird?


Help!

ann






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Re: Thunderbird help.. a small disaster!

[ann sanfedele]

I did look under other folders within Thunderbird...

I think system set to show hidden folders but remember and don't know 
where to tell it to if I dont



can a system restore save me?

how could I have tagged it?

The only area I was fiddlign with in thunderbird was the DISPLAY just 
changing font sizes..



On 3/9/2018 8:34 PM, William Robb wrote:

Maybe check and see if you didn’t inadvertently drag the folder into
another one.
You could also do a general search for the folder in Windows Explorer.
Also, is it possible you accidentally tagged it as a hidden folder? Do you
have your system set to show hidden folders?

Bill



On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:20 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:


I have my inbox in thunderbird with two subfolders (in addition to top
folder)  PDML and EBAY ... I download ALL my mail.. hardly ever look at
it on line..
I use it as a file system of information ... I was fiddling with font
sizes just now and suddenly POOF -- the ebay folder disappeared TOTAY!
I have email going from 2015 to the present .
What could I have done?  Have I simply hid the folder by hitting a wrong
key?

I started to go for help on line and got to a place where someone was
going to charge me for the answer.  gr.

I'm on WIndows 7 pro - as I think most of you who also use thunderbird
might remember. (or not ;-))

It has to be hiding somewhwere, right?

should I do system restore to a couple of hours ago? or is there
something simple within Thunderbird?

Help!

ann



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Re: 6 Pentax 35mm Lenses Tested

[William Robb]

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 4:46 PM Toralf Lund  wrote:

> On 07/03/18 03:16, Bill wrote:
> > On 3/6/2018 1:27 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:
> >> For those having a weakness for lenses of 35 mm focal length:
> >> There is a recent comparison of good old Pentax 35 mm lenses by
> >> "vyoufinder" on YouTube:
> >> https://youtu.be/IrjwRUi3jfQ
> >> A pleasure to watch (recorded near Moab Utah), and the music is not
> >> bad either.
> >>
> >> Henk
> >>
> > Worst soundtrack ever. Absolutely unlistenable.
> > Sorry Henk for sending that offlist message. I can't get T-Bird to
> > work properly with mail lists.
> You may want to go to Preferences->Advanced->Config Editor..., and look
> for "mail.override_list_reply_to"...


Been there, done that (thanks Igor). For reasons unbeknownst to me, it
doesn’t hold the setting, and reverts to the default setting as soon as the
program is restarted.

Thanks

Bill

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Re: Thunderbird help.. a small disaster!

[William Robb]

Maybe check and see if you didn’t inadvertently drag the folder into
another one.
You could also do a general search for the folder in Windows Explorer.
Also, is it possible you accidentally tagged it as a hidden folder? Do you
have your system set to show hidden folders?

Bill



On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:20 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:

> I have my inbox in thunderbird with two subfolders (in addition to top
> folder)  PDML and EBAY ... I download ALL my mail.. hardly ever look at
> it on line..
> I use it as a file system of information ... I was fiddling with font
> sizes just now and suddenly POOF -- the ebay folder disappeared TOTAY!
> I have email going from 2015 to the present .
> What could I have done?  Have I simply hid the folder by hitting a wrong
> key?
>
> I started to go for help on line and got to a place where someone was
> going to charge me for the answer.  gr.
>
> I'm on WIndows 7 pro - as I think most of you who also use thunderbird
> might remember. (or not ;-))
>
> It has to be hiding somewhwere, right?
>
> should I do system restore to a couple of hours ago? or is there
> something simple within Thunderbird?
>
> Help!
>
> ann
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Thunderbird help.. a small disaster!

[ann sanfedele]

I have my inbox in thunderbird with two subfolders (in addition to top 
folder)  PDML and EBAY ... I download ALL my mail.. hardly ever look at 
it on line..
I use it as a file system of information ... I was fiddling with font 
sizes just now and suddenly POOF -- the ebay folder disappeared TOTAY!

I have email going from 2015 to the present .
What could I have done?  Have I simply hid the folder by hitting a wrong 
key?


I started to go for help on line and got to a place where someone was 
going to charge me for the answer.  gr.


I'm on WIndows 7 pro - as I think most of you who also use thunderbird 
might remember. (or not ;-))


It has to be hiding somewhwere, right?

should I do system restore to a couple of hours ago? or is there 
something simple within Thunderbird?


Help!

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Re: 6 Pentax 35mm Lenses Tested

[Toralf Lund]

On 07/03/18 03:16, Bill wrote:

On 3/6/2018 1:27 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:

For those having a weakness for lenses of 35 mm focal length:
There is a recent comparison of good old Pentax 35 mm lenses by 
"vyoufinder" on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/IrjwRUi3jfQ
A pleasure to watch (recorded near Moab Utah), and the music is not 
bad either.


Henk


Worst soundtrack ever. Absolutely unlistenable.
Sorry Henk for sending that offlist message. I can't get T-Bird to 
work properly with mail lists.
You may want to go to Preferences->Advanced->Config Editor..., and look 
for "mail.override_list_reply_to"...



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Re: Cameras for a kid

[Stanley Halpin]

When I was a kid we lived a couple of years in Salonica, northern Greece. There 
was an organ grinder we saw several times on the street but rather than a 
monkey he came with a bear. I had nightmares about that bear climbing in my 
bedroom window and hiding under the bed waiting to get me. Never did like organ 
grinders after that.

stan


> On Mar 9, 2018, at 3:52 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> What's the problem? There were no organ grinders when I was a kid, yet 
> somehow I learned what they were.
> 
>> On 9 Mar 2018, at 17:08, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I looked at the preview offered by Amazon, - and stumbled on the first page 
>> there (p.20/21): how would you explain to a contemporary kid the meaning of 
>> "organ grinder"?!..
>> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71Xoe7oN76L.jpg
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Eric Weir Thu, 08 Mar 2018 09:58:51 -0800 wrote:
>> 
>> I also recommended this book, based on Amazon reviews.
>> 
>> Seems to be specifically about photography rather than just technique.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Cameras for a kid

[Bob W-PDML]

What's the problem? There were no organ grinders when I was a kid, yet somehow 
I learned what they were.

> On 9 Mar 2018, at 17:08, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> I looked at the preview offered by Amazon, - and stumbled on the first page 
> there (p.20/21): how would you explain to a contemporary kid the meaning of 
> "organ grinder"?!..
> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71Xoe7oN76L.jpg
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> 
> Eric Weir Thu, 08 Mar 2018 09:58:51 -0800 wrote:
> 
> I also recommended this book, based on Amazon reviews.
> 
> Seems to be specifically about photography rather than just technique.
> 
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Re: Cameras for a kid

[Bob W-PDML]

:0)

I bought the Joel Meyerowitz book - it really is good, thanks for putting me on 
to it.

B

> On 9 Mar 2018, at 16:59, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> Aah, that were genious you, Bob!
> 
> All this time, I've been thinking who was that kiddo cursing like a sailor in 
> Sanskrit while they were changing his diapers and nursing during the breaks 
> in the next classroom!
> :-D
> 
> Paul: I learned long division at 7, but did not learn that it was long until 
> I was 25 y.o. [Indivisible!]
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 19:34, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When I was learning photography and darkroom techniques I was studying long
>>> division and reading the Hardy Boys. I was ten years old.
>> 
>> I read them when I was seven.
>> In Sanskrit.
>> During breaks in nuclear physics classes.
>> That I was giving.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 8, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  
 wrote:
 
 I think BobW and I are soul mates. When I was getting deeper into
 photography in High School, I was studying Latin, German, Old English,
 Physics, Calculus, and reading S.I. Hayakawa's treatise on general
 semantics, "Language in Thought and Action." I'd already signed off on the
 French as savages.
 
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> On Mar 8, 2018, at 10:50 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> Your masochism knows no bounds.
> 
>> On 08 March 2018 at 16:36 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> At the same time I was learning photography I was also starting to read
>> French literature...
>> 
>>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 15:57, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You crack me up, Bob! That's a great line ...! :-)
>>> ...
>>> 
 On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:22 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
 
 Sounds like he needs an adult real-life lesson that will leave him
 feeling inadequate, unloved and in despair at the pointlessness of
 existence, so anything by Pentax will do.
 
 ...
 
> On 8 Mar 2018, at 14:31, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> 
> A sister has asked me for advice on a beginning camera for her
> grandson. He’s 12, intelligent, creative, self-disciplined—all-in-all
> pretty precocious about many things. I have my own thoughts, which may
> not be best, but wondered what y’all might recommend.
> 
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Re: Cameras for a kid

[John]

On 3/9/2018 12:03, Larry Colen wrote:


I will say that I sure missed a lot reading Stranger in a Strange
Land when I was ten years old.



NO Shittah! I never had the chance to read it when I was 10.

It didn't come out until I was 11.


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Re: Cameras for a kid

[John]

Nicholas van Rijn & Dominic Flandery (aka "Flandry of Terra").

On 3/9/2018 12:33, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



That's quite a story!

But I should admit, despite having swallowed tons of sci-fi books as
a teenager and post-teenager, I had to look up Poul Anderson.

I am not sure if I just missed the name or his books as well... 
However,  The Snows of Ganymede and Virgin Planet sound familiar...


Being a kid, I always felt that all great writers lived long time
ago. That feeling continued for a while into adulthood. Around
1995-96, I was surprised to meet Ray Bradbury, one of my favorite
sci-fi writers (and writers in general) during his visit to
Urbana-Champaign, IL. I thought he had been long gone by that time.

Igor



Larry Colen Fri, 09 Mar 2018 09:04:16 -0800 wrote:


I don't remember what I was reading specifically, but I think it
was the

Tom Swift, Jr series. My older brother loved The Hardy Boys, but I
was more into science fiction. The first books I took out from the
Public Library at age seven were "Two for the Stars" and "Have Space
Suit, Will Travel" by Robert Heinlein. I've not returned yet... ;-)


Heh! In first grade I went through all of the spaceship under the
apple tree books, and when they were exhausted asked Dad to point me
to more stuff like that. The public library had Rocket Ship Galileo,
and when I finished that I found Have spacesuit will travel in the
school library. It didn't take me long to go through all the Heinlein
juveniles and start in on Asimov, Heinlein etc. in the adult
section.


I will say that I sure missed a lot reading Stranger in a Strange
Land when I was ten years old.


I've heard this story, told pretty much the same from two people who
know the girl involved ...


In the late 1960's Astrid, a young girl 13 or 14 years old, who lived
in the East Bay had chosen SiaSL for a book report assignment. The
teacher also asked a bunch of other questions for the students to
answer. When the teacher handed back the reports he asked Astrid to
talk to him after class.


After class, he commented that he noticed her answer to "why did the
author write this book?" was "To make money". "I'm sure you realize
that a lot of people find this book really inspirational, and your
answer seems rather cynical for someone your age. I'm curious why you
chose that answer"


"Oh, that's what he told me."

Knowing how reclusive Heinlein was the teacher was a bit surprised by
this answer and asked how she had asked him.


"On the phone" she replied matter of factly.

Certain that she was making things up he asked her how she had gotten
his number, waiting for the inevitable confession that she was making
things up.


"My dad's phone book", as if it was the obvious answer.

The teacher had had enough of her spinning her yarn further and
further finally started to get hot under the collar and angrily
started to launch into a tirade. "Astrid Anderson!" he started. Then
he stopped, thought for a second and asked "What's your father's
first name?".






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Re: Cameras for a kid

[Alan C]

1492?

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Larry Colen

Sent: 9 March, 2018 7:03 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Cameras for a kid

I don't think I've seen a thread in a long time that is so well suited
for giving crusty old farts a chance to pontificate on their experiences
back when they wore kneepants.

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I just ordered one copy of that book for me and one copy for a friend as a 
birthday gift.
We're both 64 this year: It's important to keep our child's eye. Thanks 
for posting the link! :-)


BTW: I learned basic develop and print with the Minolta 16-Ps when I was 
eight or nine…




I learned the basics of exposure on a Spotmatic II when I was 12. That
summer, when we moved, I took photography in summer school some months
later and my first camera was an Argus C-3. At the end of summer I got
an SRT-101 as my bar-mitzvah present, and a while later Dad and I set up
a darkroom.


I don't remember what I was reading specifically, but I think it was

the Tom Swift, Jr series. My older brother loved The Hardy Boys, but I
was more into science fiction. The first books I took out from the
Public Library at age seven were "Two for the Stars" and "Have Space
Suit, Will Travel" by Robert Heinlein. I've not returned yet... ;-)

Heh!  In first grade I went through all of the spaceship under the apple
tree books, and when they were exhausted asked Dad to point me to more
stuff like that. The public library had Rocket Ship Galileo, and when I
finished that I found Have spacesuit will travel in the school library.
 It didn't take me long to go through all the Heinlein juveniles and
start in on Asimov, Heinlein etc. in the adult section.

I will say that I sure missed a lot reading Stranger in a Strange Land
when I was ten years old.

I've heard this story, told pretty much the same from two people who
know the girl involved ...

In the late 1960's Astrid, a young girl 13 or 14 years old, who lived in
the East Bay had chosen SiaSL for a book report assignment. The teacher
also asked a bunch of other questions for the students to answer. When
the teacher handed back the reports he asked Astrid to talk to him after
class.

After class, he commented that he noticed her answer to "why did the
author write this book?" was "To make money". "I'm sure you realize that
a lot of people find this book really inspirational, and your answer
seems rather cynical for someone your age. I'm curious why you chose
that answer"

"Oh, that's what he told me."

Knowing how reclusive Heinlein was the teacher was a bit surprised by
this answer and asked how she had asked him.

"On the phone" she replied matter of factly.

Certain that she was making things up he asked her how she had gotten
his number, waiting for the inevitable confession that she was making
things up.

"My dad's phone book", as if it was the obvious answer.

The teacher had had enough of her spinning her yarn further and further
finally started to get hot under the collar and angrily started to
launch into a tirade.  "Astrid Anderson!" he started. Then he stopped,
thought for a second and asked "What's your father's first name?".

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Re: Cameras for a kid

[Igor PDML-StR]

That's quite a story!

But I should admit, despite having swallowed tons of sci-fi books as a 
teenager and post-teenager, I had to look up Poul Anderson.


I am not sure if I just missed the name or his books as well...
However,  The Snows of Ganymede and Virgin Planet sound familiar...

Being a kid, I always felt that all great writers lived long time ago.
That feeling continued for a while into adulthood.
Around 1995-96, I was surprised to meet Ray Bradbury, one of my favorite 
sci-fi writers (and writers in general) during his visit to 
Urbana-Champaign, IL. I thought he had been long gone by that time.


Igor



 Larry Colen Fri, 09 Mar 2018 09:04:16 -0800 wrote:

I don't remember what I was reading specifically, but I think it was the 
Tom Swift, Jr series. My older brother loved The Hardy Boys, but I was 
more into science fiction. The first books I took out from the Public 
Library at age seven were "Two for the Stars" and "Have Space Suit, Will 
Travel" by Robert Heinlein. I've not returned yet... ;-)



Heh! In first grade I went through all of the spaceship under the apple 
tree books, and when they were exhausted asked Dad to point me to more 
stuff like that. The public library had Rocket Ship Galileo, and when I 
finished that I found Have spacesuit will travel in the school library. It 
didn't take me long to go through all the Heinlein juveniles and start in 
on Asimov, Heinlein etc. in the adult section.



I will say that I sure missed a lot reading Stranger in a Strange Land 
when I was ten years old.



I've heard this story, told pretty much the same from two people who know 
the girl involved ...



In the late 1960's Astrid, a young girl 13 or 14 years old, who lived in 
the East Bay had chosen SiaSL for a book report assignment. The teacher 
also asked a bunch of other questions for the students to answer. When the 
teacher handed back the reports he asked Astrid to talk to him after 
class.



After class, he commented that he noticed her answer to "why did the 
author write this book?" was "To make money". "I'm sure you realize that a 
lot of people find this book really inspirational, and your answer seems 
rather cynical for someone your age. I'm curious why you chose that 
answer"



"Oh, that's what he told me."

Knowing how reclusive Heinlein was the teacher was a bit surprised by this 
answer and asked how she had asked him.



"On the phone" she replied matter of factly.

Certain that she was making things up he asked her how she had gotten his 
number, waiting for the inevitable confession that she was making things 
up.



"My dad's phone book", as if it was the obvious answer.

The teacher had had enough of her spinning her yarn further and further 
finally started to get hot under the collar and angrily started to launch 
into a tirade. "Astrid Anderson!" he started. Then he stopped, thought for 
a second and asked "What's your father's first name?".




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Re: Cameras for a kid

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Oh, I'd just pull out my accordion and get the monkey dancing ... That should 
get the point across pretty quickly. 

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> On Mar 9, 2018, at 9:07 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> I looked at the preview offered by Amazon, - and stumbled on the first page 
> there (p.20/21): how would you explain to a contemporary kid the meaning of 
> "organ grinder"?!..
> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71Xoe7oN76L.jpg

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Re: Cameras for a kid

[Igor PDML-StR]

I looked at the preview offered by Amazon, - and stumbled on the first 
page there (p.20/21): how would you explain to a contemporary kid the 
meaning of "organ grinder"?!..

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71Xoe7oN76L.jpg

Cheers,

Igor



Eric Weir Thu, 08 Mar 2018 09:58:51 -0800 wrote:

I also recommended this book, based on Amazon reviews.

 Seems to be specifically about photography rather than just technique.


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Re: Cameras for a kid

[Larry Colen]

I don't think I've seen a thread in a long time that is so well suited 
for giving crusty old farts a chance to pontificate on their experiences 
back when they wore kneepants.


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I just ordered one copy of that book for me and one copy for a friend as a 
birthday gift.
We're both 64 this year: It's important to keep our child's eye. Thanks for 
posting the link! :-)

BTW: I learned basic develop and print with the Minolta 16-Ps when I was eight 
or nine…




I learned the basics of exposure on a Spotmatic II when I was 12. That 
summer, when we moved, I took photography in summer school some months 
later and my first camera was an Argus C-3. At the end of summer I got 
an SRT-101 as my bar-mitzvah present, and a while later Dad and I set up 
a darkroom.


> I don't remember what I was reading specifically, but I think it was 
the Tom Swift, Jr series. My older brother loved The Hardy Boys, but I 
was more into science fiction. The first books I took out from the 
Public Library at age seven were "Two for the Stars" and "Have Space 
Suit, Will Travel" by Robert Heinlein. I've not returned yet... ;-)


Heh!  In first grade I went through all of the spaceship under the apple 
tree books, and when they were exhausted asked Dad to point me to more 
stuff like that. The public library had Rocket Ship Galileo, and when I 
finished that I found Have spacesuit will travel in the school library. 
 It didn't take me long to go through all the Heinlein juveniles and 
start in on Asimov, Heinlein etc. in the adult section.


I will say that I sure missed a lot reading Stranger in a Strange Land 
when I was ten years old.


I've heard this story, told pretty much the same from two people who 
know the girl involved ...


In the late 1960's Astrid, a young girl 13 or 14 years old, who lived in 
the East Bay had chosen SiaSL for a book report assignment. The teacher 
also asked a bunch of other questions for the students to answer. When 
the teacher handed back the reports he asked Astrid to talk to him after 
class.


After class, he commented that he noticed her answer to "why did the 
author write this book?" was "To make money". "I'm sure you realize that 
a lot of people find this book really inspirational, and your answer 
seems rather cynical for someone your age. I'm curious why you chose 
that answer"


"Oh, that's what he told me."

Knowing how reclusive Heinlein was the teacher was a bit surprised by 
this answer and asked how she had asked him.


"On the phone" she replied matter of factly.

Certain that she was making things up he asked her how she had gotten 
his number, waiting for the inevitable confession that she was making 
things up.


"My dad's phone book", as if it was the obvious answer.

The teacher had had enough of her spinning her yarn further and further 
finally started to get hot under the collar and angrily started to 
launch into a tirade.  "Astrid Anderson!" he started. Then he stopped, 
thought for a second and asked "What's your father's first name?".


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Re: Cameras for a kid

[Igor PDML-StR]

Aah, that were genious you, Bob!

All this time, I've been thinking who was that kiddo cursing like a sailor 
in Sanskrit while they were changing his diapers and nursing during the 
breaks in the next classroom!

:-D

Paul: I learned long division at 7, but did not learn that it was long 
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 On Mar 8, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:



On 8 Mar 2018, at 19:34, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

When I was learning photography and darkroom techniques I was studying long
division and reading the Hardy Boys. I was ten years old.


I read them when I was seven.
In Sanskrit.
During breaks in nuclear physics classes.
That I was giving.





On Mar 8, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

I think BobW and I are soul mates. When I was getting deeper into
photography in High School, I was studying Latin, German, Old English,
Physics, Calculus, and reading S.I. Hayakawa's treatise on general
semantics, "Language in Thought and Action." I'd already signed off on the
French as savages.

G
—
"We all get to be young and foolish in our lives. If we survive that, we
get to be old and foolish."


On Mar 8, 2018, at 10:50 AM, mike wilson  wrote:

Your masochism knows no bounds.


On 08 March 2018 at 16:36 Bob W-PDML  wrote:


At the same time I was learning photography I was also starting to read
French literature...


On 8 Mar 2018, at 15:57, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

You crack me up, Bob! That's a great line ...! :-)
...


On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:22 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

Sounds like he needs an adult real-life lesson that will leave him
feeling inadequate, unloved and in despair at the pointlessness of
existence, so anything by Pentax will do.

...


On 8 Mar 2018, at 14:31, Eric Weir  wrote:


A sister has asked me for advice on a beginning camera for her
grandson. He’s 12, intelligent, creative, self-disciplined—all-in-all
pretty precocious about many things. I have my own thoughts, which may
not be best, but wondered what y’all might recommend.



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Re: March PUG - Arches - is up

[Christine Aguila]

Agreed!  Varied, Dynamic, Very Interesting.  Great collection!  Cheers, 
Christine



> On Mar 8, 2018, at 3:49 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 7/3/18, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> 
>> View here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> What a fabulous gallery! Well done all - hit rate was 100% - not a duffer 
> among them ;-)
> 
> All superb.
> 
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Re: Cameras for a kid

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>>I just ordered one copy of that book for me and one copy for a friend as a 
>>birthday gift. 
>>We're both 64 this year: It's important to keep our child's eye. Thanks for 
>>posting the link! :-)
>
>
> 

Coincidentally, the Guardian had a couple of pieces about Joel
Meyerowitz just two days ago:
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2018/mar/07/joel-meyerowitz-prowl-street-photography-where-i-find-myself
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/mar/07/photography-legend-joel-meyerowitz-phones-killed-sexiness-street-most-stunning-shots

 
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Re: Cameras for a kid

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I just ordered one copy of that book for me and one copy for a friend as a 
birthday gift. 
We're both 64 this year: It's important to keep our child's eye. Thanks for 
posting the link! :-)

BTW: I learned basic develop and print with the Minolta 16-Ps when I was eight 
or nine… I don't remember what I was reading specifically, but I think it was 
the Tom Swift, Jr series. My older brother loved The Hardy Boys, but I was more 
into science fiction. The first books I took out from the Public Library at age 
seven were "Two for the Stars" and "Have Space Suit, Will Travel" by Robert 
Heinlein. I've not returned yet... ;-)

G
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If you're afraid to fall down, you'll never stand up.


> On Mar 8, 2018, at 3:24 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> That book looks fantastic - great idea. And I like Godfrey's idea too, 
> despite my Jesuitical tendencies.
> 
> B
> 
>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 17:58, Eric Weir  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> But I liked Godfrey’s suggestion of instant photography. So I also 
>> recommended one of the Fuji Instax cameras. A cheaper alternative that he 
>> could have fun with and learn about composition, light, and exposure rather 
>> than, as Ken says, "getting caught up in the technical side - f-stop, 
>> shutter speed etc." 
>> 
>> I also recommended this book, based on Amazon reviews. 
>> 
>>  Seems to be specifically about photography rather than just technique.



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