Re: Random Flowers

2018-07-21 Thread Bill

On 7/20/2018 5:03 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Exactly as I pictured it! Now go and make a large print of it.
Simply stunning!



Already done. The print is positively 3 dimensional. Now she who must be 
obeyed needs me to build a frame for it, cut a mat, mount it, get  glass 
for it and submit it to her for the ceremony of presentation.


Thanks all for looking and commenting. I don't show a lot of images, but 
I think this lens might be the inanimate object I need to get my sorry 
ass off the couch.


Hopefully more to come.

bill

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Re: Usable ISO with K-3

2018-07-21 Thread Bill

On 7/21/2018 11:40 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
I almost never shoot above 400 ISO in my outdoor photography, a force of 
habit.
For comparisons I shot some birdy images at the feeder and varied the 
ISO up to 51200, same f stop with varying shutter speeds.


Surprise, surprise but I got very usable captures up to 25600, but not 
so much @ 51200 - which produced a noticeable color shift.


A subjective evaluation that will give me a little more leeway in the 
field.


Wondering what list members have found in this regard with their DSLRs ?


I was pretty happy with the K3 up to 3200, and would go to 6400 in a 
pinch. With the K1 (I know, you aren't asking), I'm good with 6400 and 
still find 12800 quite usable, though also somewhat unbelievable.


bill

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Re: PESO - Chartres Chancel

2018-07-21 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Joe. 

Rick

> On Jul 21, 2018, at 12:21 PM, jtainter  wrote:
> 
> Wonderful series. I love photographing in places like that. Someday I will 
> have to get there. Thanks also for the story, which I hadn't known.
> 
> Joe
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Re: Peso: Random Flowers

2018-07-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Wow. Makes my lens buying envy kick in.Regards, Bob S.

On 7/20/18, Bill  wrote:
> This is a focus stack with the D FA 50/1.4. After some testing, I
> determined it's best aperture is f/5.6, so that is what I shot at.
> I'm over the moon happy with this lens so far.
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/addons/K13599-3626stack.html
>
> Technical: Pentax K1, D FA* 50mm f/1.4 1/5 second. 28 image stack
>
> enjoy
>
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Re: Peso: Ashley on her 13th birthday (NSFMJ)

2018-07-21 Thread ann sanfedele

Thanks , Mark!
I see you "cheated" as Rick would say about my habit of looking at a 
whole gallery after getting pointed to one shot :-)


Ashley came home with me on July 16th , 2006 -- she was about a year , 
based on papers that had her as 10 months in mid May.  So I decided

JUly 16th should be the dateto remember.

Hope your cats are in as good shape as Ashley is

ann

On 7/21/2018 6:53 PM, Mark C wrote:
A very nice gallery and a lovely cat. My two black cats are turning 13 
sometime this summer - don't know their birth dates but adopted them 
as kittens in October 2005. Tempus Fugit, as they say.


Mark

ann sanfedele wrote:


https://annsan.smugmug.com/The-Kitty-Corner/Ashley-ultimate-alpha-tabby/i-MPbvjGh/A 



not fond of the lighting - but it was what was available  - actually 
taken a couple of days ago


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Re: Peso: Ashley on her 13th birthday (NSFMJ)

2018-07-21 Thread Mark C
A very nice gallery and a lovely cat. My two black cats are turning 13 
sometime this summer - don't know their birth dates but adopted them as 
kittens in October 2005. Tempus Fugit, as they say.


Mark

ann sanfedele wrote:


https://annsan.smugmug.com/The-Kitty-Corner/Ashley-ultimate-alpha-tabby/i-MPbvjGh/A 



not fond of the lighting - but it was what was available  - actually 
taken a couple of days ago


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Re: Pentax sighting

2018-07-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I think the Program A was essentially the same as the Super Program, which
was my first SLR after my 1966 Spotmatic.  It was a very reliable camera


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On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 3:45 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

> Taking a break from laying tile in the kitchen I decided to take a moment
> to peruse PetaPixel.
>
> There's an article with an accompanying video from a guy who's building a
> DIY "Auto" Film Processor (more semi-auto at this point). But he's got it
> programmed for B, C41 and E6 films.
>
> https://petapixel.com/2018/07/19/the-developist-is-an-in-dev
> elopment-diy-auto-film-processor/
>
> But the real treat comes at the end of his video (14:05) when he gives us
> a look at the results and there's a Pentax Program A w/SMC PENTAX-A 1:1.7
> 50mm lens sitting on the counter next to the roll of processed negatives.
>
> Also on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ci6cSlf7kU
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Re: Usable ISO with K-3

2018-07-21 Thread Jack Davis
Not approaching anything like 1, but I'm solidly comfortable with a 1250 
auto TAV setting, which 
surprises me with each happening
on my K3ll.
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2018, at 12:38 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> TLDR: In most situations I find that I can push up to 10,000 and get usable 
> images, particularly when shooting social or dance events indoors.  I'm much 
> better off doing 10,000 without a flash than annoying, or distracting, folks 
> with a flash at lower ISOs.
> 
> Too noisy is very subjective and depends on the situation. I find the noise 
> at ISO 10,000 comparable to the grain on Tri-X.
> 
> I have found that I have lost far more photos trying to preserve ISO and 
> ending up at too slow of a shutter speed, or too narrow of a depth of field 
> than I have by pushing the ISO too hard.
> 
> I have found that with hard drives being under $50/terabyte, unless I am 
> shooting action, there is little downside to experimenting widely with 
> exposure particularly with "tripod shots".
> 
> There is also little downside to just going out and experimenting, pushing 
> beyond what I consider the limits of the camera to learn.
> 
> Also, as image processing improves, raw files that were too noisy a few years 
> ago can now be cleaned up quite satisfactorily.
> 
> I have found that with the iso-invariance of the cameras, bracketing ISO has 
> little benefit, unless I'm in danger of blowing out highlights.  So, if I'm 
> bracketing I'm usually either in Av or M mode.  As I think about this, I may 
> want to experiment again with bracketing in Tav mode, because blown 
> highlights tend to be the danger.
> 
> In good light, in auto exposure, I'll shoot at ISO 100 and Av mode.
> 
> If I can't get ISO 100, in auto exposure, I'll set the shutter speed and 
> aperture I need  and take whatever ISO I can get in Tav mode. One time I was 
> doing this at a concert, one frame looked a bit grainy, but still usable, and 
> it turned out to be ISO 25,600.
> 
> Back when doing low light work with much older tech sensors, I found that if 
> something is noisier than I like, if I process in black and white the noise 
> just looks like grainier film, and is much less objectionable.
> 
> 
> Ken Waller wrote on 7/21/18 10:40 AM:
>> I almost never shoot above 400 ISO in my outdoor photography, a force of 
>> habit.
>> For comparisons I shot some birdy images at the feeder and varied the ISO up 
>> to 51200, same f stop with varying shutter speeds.
>> Surprise, surprise but I got very usable captures up to 25600, but not so 
>> much @ 51200 - which produced a noticeable color shift.
>> A subjective evaluation that will give me a little more leeway in the field.
>> Wondering what list members have found in this regard with their DSLRs ?
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
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Pentax sighting

2018-07-21 Thread John Sessoms
Taking a break from laying tile in the kitchen I decided to take a moment to 
peruse PetaPixel.


There's an article with an accompanying video from a guy who's building a DIY 
"Auto" Film Processor (more semi-auto at this point). But he's got it programmed 
for B, C41 and E6 films.


https://petapixel.com/2018/07/19/the-developist-is-an-in-development-diy-auto-film-processor/

But the real treat comes at the end of his video (14:05) when he gives us a look 
at the results and there's a Pentax Program A w/SMC PENTAX-A 1:1.7 50mm lens 
sitting on the counter next to the roll of processed negatives.


Also on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ci6cSlf7kU


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Re: Usable ISO with K-3

2018-07-21 Thread Larry Colen


TLDR: In most situations I find that I can push up to 10,000 and get 
usable images, particularly when shooting social or dance events 
indoors.  I'm much better off doing 10,000 without a flash than 
annoying, or distracting, folks with a flash at lower ISOs.


Too noisy is very subjective and depends on the situation. I find the 
noise at ISO 10,000 comparable to the grain on Tri-X.


I have found that I have lost far more photos trying to preserve ISO and 
ending up at too slow of a shutter speed, or too narrow of a depth of 
field than I have by pushing the ISO too hard.


I have found that with hard drives being under $50/terabyte, unless I am 
shooting action, there is little downside to experimenting widely with 
exposure particularly with "tripod shots".


There is also little downside to just going out and experimenting, 
pushing beyond what I consider the limits of the camera to learn.


Also, as image processing improves, raw files that were too noisy a few 
years ago can now be cleaned up quite satisfactorily.


I have found that with the iso-invariance of the cameras, bracketing ISO 
has little benefit, unless I'm in danger of blowing out highlights.  So, 
if I'm bracketing I'm usually either in Av or M mode.  As I think about 
this, I may want to experiment again with bracketing in Tav mode, 
because blown highlights tend to be the danger.


In good light, in auto exposure, I'll shoot at ISO 100 and Av mode.

If I can't get ISO 100, in auto exposure, I'll set the shutter speed and 
aperture I need  and take whatever ISO I can get in Tav mode. One time I 
was doing this at a concert, one frame looked a bit grainy, but still 
usable, and it turned out to be ISO 25,600.


Back when doing low light work with much older tech sensors, I found 
that if something is noisier than I like, if I process in black and 
white the noise just looks like grainier film, and is much less 
objectionable.



Ken Waller wrote on 7/21/18 10:40 AM:
I almost never shoot above 400 ISO in my outdoor photography, a force of 
habit.
For comparisons I shot some birdy images at the feeder and varied the 
ISO up to 51200, same f stop with varying shutter speeds.


Surprise, surprise but I got very usable captures up to 25600, but not 
so much @ 51200 - which produced a noticeable color shift.


A subjective evaluation that will give me a little more leeway in the 
field.


Wondering what list members have found in this regard with their DSLRs ?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller




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Re: Usable ISO with K-3

2018-07-21 Thread P. J. Alling
I used to shoot the K20D up to 1600 ISO, anything above that was usually 
unusable for large prints.


The K-5II seems to be good up to 25600 if you like somewhat chunky* 
grain at times, color usually seems good with A, F and FA lenses, would 
probably be just as good with DA lenses but I don't own any.  The color 
is really yellow even when using the highest correction factor under 
tungsten light with M and K lenses on the K5II.


I've also gotten decent results with the *ist-D and Ds at 800 and 
sometimes 1600, though the latter were usually converted to B


Yes, I do still have a *ist-Ds that I use in places that I don't want to 
risk damage to a better camera.  It's effective monetary value is 
nothing, and slapping an old M 40mm f2.8 lens, (also effectively worth 
nothing), on it is like going back to using a Spotmatic and TriX 400, 
it's actually easier to get used to than using the K20D after mostly 
using the K-5II.



*A lot like old GAF 500 ASA slide film except at a much higher sensitivity.

On 7/21/2018 1:40 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
I almost never shoot above 400 ISO in my outdoor photography, a force 
of habit.
For comparisons I shot some birdy images at the feeder and varied the 
ISO up to 51200, same f stop with varying shutter speeds.


Surprise, surprise but I got very usable captures up to 25600, but not 
so much @ 51200 - which produced a noticeable color shift.


A subjective evaluation that will give me a little more leeway in the 
field.


Wondering what list members have found in this regard with their DSLRs ?

Kenneth Waller
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Re: Usable ISO with K-3

2018-07-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
I’m right where you are. With both the K-2 and K-3, 25600 seems to be the 
practical limit. The K-1 shows a slight advantage, probably due to sensor size. 
When shooting birds or sports I try to keep it at 6400 or less, but go with 
what nature gives me. Shooting cars for publication I go for 400 or less when 
using the tripod. Handheld, I go to 1600 if necessary.

Paul

> On Jul 21, 2018, at 1:40 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> I almost never shoot above 400 ISO in my outdoor photography, a force of 
> habit.
> For comparisons I shot some birdy images at the feeder and varied the ISO up 
> to 51200, same f stop with varying shutter speeds.
> 
> Surprise, surprise but I got very usable captures up to 25600, but not so 
> much @ 51200 - which produced a noticeable color shift.
> 
> A subjective evaluation that will give me a little more leeway in the field.
> 
> Wondering what list members have found in this regard with their DSLRs ?
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller 
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Usable ISO with K-3

2018-07-21 Thread Ken Waller
I almost never shoot above 400 ISO in my outdoor photography, a force of 
habit.
For comparisons I shot some birdy images at the feeder and varied the ISO up 
to 51200, same f stop with varying shutter speeds.


Surprise, surprise but I got very usable captures up to 25600, but not so 
much @ 51200 - which produced a noticeable color shift.


A subjective evaluation that will give me a little more leeway in the field.

Wondering what list members have found in this regard with their DSLRs ?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller 



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Re: PESO - Chartres Chancel

2018-07-21 Thread jtainter
Wonderful series. I love photographing in places like that. Someday I will have 
to get there. Thanks also for the story, which I hadn't known.

Joe



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DFA 150-450

2018-07-21 Thread jtainter
Here are a couple of my first efforts with the DFA 150-450. So far I am 
seriously impressed with this lens:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61391546

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61400986

Also, I did a quickie comparison of the DFA 150-450 at 450 mm. with the FA* 400 
F5.6. If interested, it is here:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61397336

Joe



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Re: PESO - Chartres Chancel

2018-07-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
GREAT story!  Thanks for sharing it.

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On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 9:25 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/AMS-to-CDG/AMS-to-CDG-2018/i-3hhcBqQ/A
>
> (K-5, DA 17-70)
>
> Historical note:
>
> The current cathedral was finished in 1220, and apart from some damage
> during the French Revolution (which the townsfolk stopped) has stood intact
> since.
>
> In World War II, the cathedral escaped bomb damage by chance (the stained
> glass had been removed and stored elsewhere), but in August 1944 a company
> of American troops was ordered to destroy it, based on information that the
> Nazi army was still there. A colonel (Wellborn Griffith) and his driver
> motored over to the cathedral alone, searched it from the crypt to the tops
> of the towers, found no enemy, and refused the order to destroy it. The
> town was captured peacefully. Col. Griffith was killed in action later the
> same day 3.5 km away, and was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross, the
> Silver Star, and the French Croix de Guerre and Legion d’Honneur
> posthumously.
>
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Re: Peso: Birdhouse

2018-07-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Sharp, clear and well photographed.


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On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Bill  wrote:

> A quick snapshot to show the rather delicious bokeh off the D FA* 50/1.4
> I stopped down a tiny bit to get a little more than paper thin DOF. The
> light was failing, so the ISO is ridiculously high. I think the K1 handles
> that rather well.
>
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/addons/birdhouse1.html
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> Technical: K1 D FA* 50/1.4 at F/5, 1/125, ISO3200
>
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Re: Peso: Random Flowers

2018-07-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
WOW!  What a great effect.


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On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Bill  wrote:

> This is a focus stack with the D FA 50/1.4. After some testing, I
> determined it's best aperture is f/5.6, so that is what I shot at.
> I'm over the moon happy with this lens so far.
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/addons/K13599-3626stack.html
>
> Technical: Pentax K1, D FA* 50mm f/1.4 1/5 second. 28 image stack
>
> enjoy
>
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Re: PESOs (2) - Chartres Cathedral Window

2018-07-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Rick.  What you say is very sensible and practical.

I have managed to grab a few nice images of stained glass:  one from Notre
Dame is in the 2017 PDML annual.



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On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

> Thanks, folks!
>
> Dan, I stand as far away as is practical, do my best to be centered (R
> to L, and of course mentally!), and spot meter the glass with a bit of
> bracketing. Sometimes one can include the surrounding masonry, but
> usually (as in this shot) there's not enough ambient light.
>
> Ann, you're cheating! I'm glad you're enjoying them, though.
>
> Rick
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 8:38 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> > I enjoy looking atthe whole gallery in the collage mode - which works as
> a
> > kind of stained glass windowon my nice big monitor..
> > I agree Rick has the stained glass windows down - but the exterior shots
> > interest me more..  I waffle on which I like best..
> >
> > ann
> >
> >
> > On 7/20/2018 12:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >>
> >> Both are very nice, Rick with great rendition of the colors in the
> >> windows.
> >>
> >> Taking image of stained glass appear to be a simple process, but it is
> >> not.  I tried that at Notre Dame and Rouen last year, and it is tricky
> >> indeed.  You obviously have the knack, rick.
> >>
> >>
> >> Dan Matyola
> >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Rick Womer 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/AMS-to-CDG/AMS-to-CDG-2018/i-4H2dcqb/A
> >>>
> >>> Detail:
> >>>
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Re: GESO: Peru - Machu Picchu

2018-07-21 Thread Jack Davis
Terrific collection, Stan!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 20, 2018, at 8:22 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Rick! I got lucky with the weather. Meg literally had tears in her 
> eyes when we first stepped around the corner and saw the scene, it was just 
> so otherworldly.
> 
> My family lived in Bolivia for several years when I was a teen. But I was 
> back in the States at the point when my mother and brother went to Machu 
> Picchu. I’ve seen their photos (and others’), I’ve heard their stories, and I 
> am very pleased to have finally seen it through my own eyes.
> 
> Like in many too-popular tourist sites, the Peruvian park service is slowly 
> tightening restrictions on visits. No more all-day passes, soon if not 
> already you need to be with a guide at all times, etc. Reasonable and 
> necessary, but restrictive. If you have any thought of going, sooner is 
> better.
> 
> And thanks for working through whatever web browser issues in order to take a 
> look.
> 
> stan
> 
>> On Jul 20, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> 
>> Stan, those are gorgeous! The interplay of stone, grass, and clouds at the 
>> top is especially beautiful and intriguing.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2018, at 9:36 PM, Stan Halpin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe you need to wait longer while the empty boxes get populated with the 
>>> image icons? I just checked from my iPad and it looks right. 
>>> 
>>> If you want, try to go to the top level photos.stanhalpin.com and navigate 
>>> to the particular gallery...
>>> 
>>> stan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On Jul 19, 2018, at 9:28 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
 
 Stan, I get nothing but white squares on a black background, whether I use 
 Firefox or Safari.
 
 Rick
 
> On Jul 15, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> A large gallery (90 images) of shots from my trip in early April this 
> year. We went first to a jungle lodge in the Peruvian Amazon, then to 
> Cuzco and on to Machu Picchu. As with my Ecuador gallery, some of the 
> shots are there because I am quite pleased with them, others are there 
> because I think they help to provide a visual travelogue of sorts…
> 
> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p707179303
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Re: GESO a bunch of critters

2018-07-21 Thread mike wilson
You need to look into their eyes..

> On 21 July 2018 at 02:39 Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> 
> One thing for sure: Our mascot is NOT a beautiful bird, even when expertly 
> photographed.
> 
> Rick
> 
> > On Jul 14, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > 
> > PESO: PDML discussion
> > 
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/43363009902/in/album-72157669137217797/
> > 
> > 
> > I'm finally back from my trip North. What was supposed to be a relatively 
> > short trip for a tango event and then visiting became a lot more 
> > complicated as things came up and we had to come up with new living 
> > arrangements for my mom.
> > 
> > I'm starting in on my huge backlog of photos. Today, I tackled my wildlife 
> > photos.
> > 
> > Here is my fauna album:
> > 
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157669137217797
> > 
> > Comments and suggestion are always appreciated.
> > 
> > Here are a bunch more photos of critters that I liked but not quite as much 
> > as the ones above:
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157693255549880
> > 
> > Some of them are technically challenged, but still fun, like the ones of 
> > what I think are kingbirds dive bombing a bald eagle.  I ran into some 
> > issues at SNWR with the flange mount of my bigma coming a bit loose.
> > 
> > 
> > Here are some flower pictures:
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157693251449550
> > 
> > I learned a few things that might come in handy on future trips:
> > 
> > A lot of birds (mostly cormorants) nest under the Yaquina Bay Bridge in 
> > Newport. I had hoped to go back when the light wasn't quite so harsh, but 
> > that was one of many things I wasn't able to get to on this trip.
> > 
> > A Dodge van is very suboptinal for the car tour of the Sacramento National 
> > Wildlife Refuge. It turns out that you aren't allowed out of your car 
> > except in a few spots there, even in the summer when there aren't many 
> > skittish birds around.  I'd like to go back in a convertible so that I'm 
> > not trying to take photos while hanging out of the driver's window.
> > 
> > 
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