Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread lrc
Check prices, there may not be any reason other than convenience to use Flickr 
rather than Bay directly.  Download the bay roes software and process your 
photos specifically for printing. 


On September 4, 2019 4:11:06 PM PDT, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 1:54 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>> 
>> Flickr uses Bay as one of them and Bay is very good.  I have
>traditionally gotten my prints done at Costco.
>
>Thanks to Larry and Ken for comments/suggestions regarding printing
>services. If Flickr uses Bay I think I’ll give them a try.
>
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>Decatur, GA  USA
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Re: September PUG is up

2019-09-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Ann, where on the Panhandle was your seascape taken?  I visited most of the
beaches there back in the mid 1960s.  

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On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 12:16 AM Brian W  wrote:

> G'day all
>
> View the September gallery here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> Our largest gallery for some time!
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> there).
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery,
> let me know.
>
> +
>
> Next up: 'Silhouette'.
>
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
> You can submit here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
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> Cheers
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Re: September PUG is up

2019-09-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I agree with Ken.  We are all indebted to Brian for all his hard work and
skill on our behalf!

I also agree that this large gallery is also one of the best ever.  There
are many strong images, and a lot of artistic compositions.  What also
impresses me is the geographic distribution included in this PUG:
Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Canada, Alaska, Florida, California,
Maine, Connecticut, Michigan, North Carolina, two Hawaiian Islands, Norway,
England, France, Netherlands, Germany, Greece, and Crete.  Wow!

My personal favorites are Henk's "Lonely Rider" and Ralf's "Kitsch."
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On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 11:39 PM Ken Waller  wrote:

> Thanks once again Brian for all the time and effort you expend in putting
> out the monthly PUG.
>
> A lot of good images in this months edition, but I especially like Larry's
> Natural Bridge's at night and Pat Timmerman's Sky Above, Sea Below.
>
> Kenneth Waller
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Re: September PUG is up

2019-09-04 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks once again Brian for all the time and effort you expend in putting 
out the monthly PUG.


A lot of good images in this months edition, but I especially like Larry's 
Natural Bridge's at night and Pat Timmerman's Sky Above, Sea Below.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Brian W" 

Subject: September PUG is up



G'day all

View the September gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

Our largest gallery for some time!

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery 
there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the 
gallery,

let me know.

+

Next up: 'Silhouette'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Cheers
Brian
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Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Doug Franklin
I haven't posted to the group in several years, but I've been following. 
 On this topic, maybe I have some information to offer.  I recently had 
reason to try the "Fracture" service that most of you (in North America, 
at least) have probably already seen advertised 
(https://fractureme.com).  I had reason recently to try them out. 
Unfortunately, the original I had to work with was less than optimal. 
The best I could do after cropping was about 6" x 8" at 100 dpi.  I must 
say that I was impressed with what they were able to do with that.  I'm 
not sure I could've done better with a local high quality photo printer 
on paper.  I'm looking forward to trying them again with a better 
(higher resolution) original.  I will admit that ICC profiles weren't an 
issue for that print (I didn't have them), but (a) the result was as 
color correct as I could've asked, lacking the profile and (b) it will 
be something I'm looking hard at on the next one.  But there will 
definitely be more.  From my limited test, 9/10, would buy again.


On 2019-09-04 16:40, Ken Waller wrote:

Eric, as I’ve posted here before, I’ve had very good results with Bay Photo.
They’ve done everything from 4 X 6 inch up to 2 X 3 feet prints on paper, 
canvas and metal for me and I have nothing but good things to say about them.
They will offer discounts (usually 20% off) from time to time when you get on 
their mail list. You use their software to upload your file and pick the 
numerous options available.

-Original Message-

From: Eric Weir 
Subject: Printing


I have never printed a single photo. I'd like to give it a try. With this image, just 
as a test: 

 It’s 2.5 MB, 4032 x 2268 pixels

I’ve checked out printing services via this review: 
 
AdoramaPix and Nations Photo Lab appealed. But I see printing is now available via 
Flickr. Thought I’d give it a try.

Wondering about a 10 x 20 or 12 x 24 paper print, lustre finish. With an image 
this size, what do you think?

Also interested in comparison of Flickr to other printing services, e.g., 
AdoramaPix, Nations Photo Lab, or other.

Thanks,
--
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Decatur, GA  USA
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Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread John
Generally, "72 dpi" is screen resolution. You don't want to print at "72 dpi" 
because it will look like crap.


At the 240ppi Godfrey mentioned 4032 x 2268 pixels gives you 16.8 x 9.45 inches.

To get a 20" wide print, 4032 pixels is going to give you around "201 ppi", 
suggesting a crop to 2016 pixels high (for a 10 x 20 print).


A good "printer" should be able to give you an adequate 10x20 C-Type print if 
the JPEG quality is high enough (2.5MB file size suggests it might be just 
barely), although you're going to have to crop it to get that aspect ratio.



On 9/4/2019 19:35:21, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:




On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:

Thanks, Godfrey. Guess I’ll adjust the size of the test print downward.

WIAI, I take it “ppi" is "pixels per inch.” Data on this image as displayed
in Dropbox indicates 72 “dots per inch.” is that the same as "pixels per
inch”?


Yes.. in this context, ppi and dpi mean the same thing.  It’s a long running
confusion.



This image was shot with an iPhone 6s using the default camera app, which
saves JPG files. If I we shooting RAW with the same camera would I be able
to do larger prints?


Raw files would net more editability but no more pixels, so no.

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Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Godfrey. Guess I’ll adjust the size of the test print downward.
> 
> WIAI, I take it “ppi" is "pixels per inch.” Data on this image as displayed 
> in Dropbox indicates 72 “dots per inch.” is that the same as "pixels per 
> inch”?

Yes.. in this context, ppi and dpi mean the same thing.  It’s a long running 
confusion. 

> 
> This image was shot with an iPhone 6s using the default camera app, which 
> saves JPG files. If I we shooting RAW with the same camera would I be able to 
> do larger prints?

Raw files would net more editability but no more pixels, so no. 

G

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Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Eric Weir

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Can’t give you much advice on print services since I always do my own prints. 
> But be aware that that pixel count on the long edge nets a max print area 
> length of about 17” @ 240ppi which is as low as I’d want to go for best 
> detail on a landscape shot like that. 

Thanks, Godfrey. Guess I’ll adjust the size of the test print downward.

WIAI, I take it “ppi" is "pixels per inch.” Data on this image as displayed in 
Dropbox indicates 72 “dots per inch.” is that the same as "pixels per inch”?

This image was shot with an iPhone 6s using the default camera app, which saves 
JPG files. If I we shooting RAW with the same camera would I be able to do 
larger prints?

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Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Eric Weir

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 1:54 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> Flickr uses Bay as one of them and Bay is very good.  I have traditionally 
> gotten my prints done at Costco.

Thanks to Larry and Ken for comments/suggestions regarding printing services. 
If Flickr uses Bay I think I’ll give them a try.

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Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Can’t give you much advice on print services since I always do my own prints. 
But be aware that that pixel count on the long edge nets a max print area 
length of about 17” @ 240ppi which is as low as I’d want to go for best detail 
on a landscape shot like that. 

G

> 
> I have never printed a single photo. I'd like to give it a try. With this 
> image, just as a test: 
> 
>  It’s 2.5 MB, 4032 x 2268 pixels


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Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Ken Waller
Eric, as I’ve posted here before, I’ve had very good results with Bay Photo.
They’ve done everything from 4 X 6 inch up to 2 X 3 feet prints on paper, 
canvas and metal for me and I have nothing but good things to say about them. 
They will offer discounts (usually 20% off) from time to time when you get on 
their mail list. You use their software to upload your file and pick the 
numerous options available.

-Original Message-
>From: Eric Weir 
>Subject: Printing
>
>
>I have never printed a single photo. I'd like to give it a try. With this 
>image, just as a test: 
>
> It’s 2.5 MB, 4032 x 2268 pixels
>
>I’ve checked out printing services via this review: 
> 
>AdoramaPix and Nations Photo Lab appealed. But I see printing is now available 
>via Flickr. Thought I’d give it a try. 
>
>Wondering about a 10 x 20 or 12 x 24 paper print, lustre finish. With an image 
>this size, what do you think?
>
>Also interested in comparison of Flickr to other printing services, e.g., 
>AdoramaPix, Nations Photo Lab, or other.  
>
>Thanks,
>--
>Eric Weir
>Decatur, GA  USA
>eew...@bellsouth.net 
>
>"(I)t is important that awake people be awake... the darkness around us is 
>deep."
>
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Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Costco. Damn autocorrect.

Paul

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Cost is good if you embed the icc profile for your store
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 1:54 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>> 
>> Flickr uses Bay as one of them and Bay is very good.  I have traditionally 
>> gotten my prints done at Costco.
>> 
>>> On September 4, 2019 10:48:48 AM PDT, Eric Weir  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have never printed a single photo. I'd like to give it a try. With
>>> this image, just as a test:
>>> 
>>> It’s 2.5 MB, 4032 x 2268 pixels
>>> 
>>> I’ve checked out printing services via this review:
>>> 
>>> AdoramaPix and Nations Photo Lab appealed. But I see printing is now
>>> available via Flickr. Thought I’d give it a try. 
>>> 
>>> Wondering about a 10 x 20 or 12 x 24 paper print, lustre finish. With
>>> an image this size, what do you think?
>>> 
>>> Also interested in comparison of Flickr to other printing services,
>>> e.g., AdoramaPix, Nations Photo Lab, or other.  
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> --
>>> Eric Weir
>>> Decatur, GA  USA
>>> eew...@bellsouth.net 
>>> 
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>>> is deep."
>>> 
>>> - William Stafford
>>> 
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Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Cost is good if you embed the icc profile for your store

Paul

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 1:54 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> Flickr uses Bay as one of them and Bay is very good.  I have traditionally 
> gotten my prints done at Costco.
> 
>> On September 4, 2019 10:48:48 AM PDT, Eric Weir  wrote:
>> 
>> I have never printed a single photo. I'd like to give it a try. With
>> this image, just as a test:
>> 
>> It’s 2.5 MB, 4032 x 2268 pixels
>> 
>> I’ve checked out printing services via this review:
>> 
>> AdoramaPix and Nations Photo Lab appealed. But I see printing is now
>> available via Flickr. Thought I’d give it a try. 
>> 
>> Wondering about a 10 x 20 or 12 x 24 paper print, lustre finish. With
>> an image this size, what do you think?
>> 
>> Also interested in comparison of Flickr to other printing services,
>> e.g., AdoramaPix, Nations Photo Lab, or other.  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Eric Weir
>> Decatur, GA  USA
>> eew...@bellsouth.net 
>> 
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>> is deep."
>> 
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Re: Printing

2019-09-04 Thread lrc
Flickr uses Bay as one of them and Bay is very good.  I have traditionally 
gotten my prints done at Costco.

On September 4, 2019 10:48:48 AM PDT, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
>I have never printed a single photo. I'd like to give it a try. With
>this image, just as a test:
>
>It’s 2.5 MB, 4032 x 2268 pixels
>
>I’ve checked out printing services via this review:
>
>AdoramaPix and Nations Photo Lab appealed. But I see printing is now
>available via Flickr. Thought I’d give it a try. 
>
>Wondering about a 10 x 20 or 12 x 24 paper print, lustre finish. With
>an image this size, what do you think?
>
>Also interested in comparison of Flickr to other printing services,
>e.g., AdoramaPix, Nations Photo Lab, or other.  
>
>Thanks,
>--
>Eric Weir
>Decatur, GA  USA
>eew...@bellsouth.net 
>
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>is deep."
>
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Printing

2019-09-04 Thread Eric Weir

I have never printed a single photo. I'd like to give it a try. With this 
image, just as a test: 

 It’s 2.5 MB, 4032 x 2268 pixels

I’ve checked out printing services via this review: 
 
AdoramaPix and Nations Photo Lab appealed. But I see printing is now available 
via Flickr. Thought I’d give it a try. 

Wondering about a 10 x 20 or 12 x 24 paper print, lustre finish. With an image 
this size, what do you think?

Also interested in comparison of Flickr to other printing services, e.g., 
AdoramaPix, Nations Photo Lab, or other.  

Thanks,
--
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Decatur, GA  USA
eew...@bellsouth.net 

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Re: September PUG is up

2019-09-04 Thread David J Brooks
Excellent gallery this month. Some wonderful see scapes

Dave

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 5:35 AM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> On 4/9/19, Brian W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >View the September gallery here:
> >
> >http://pug.komkon.org/
> >
> >Our largest gallery for some time!
>
> Wow - and what a gallery! All really excellent - enjoyed them all.
>
> One standout (by a gnat's whatsit) for me is Pat Temmerman's 'Sky Above,
> Sea Below'.
>
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Re: September PUG is up

2019-09-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/9/19, Brian W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>View the September gallery here:
>
>http://pug.komkon.org/
>
>Our largest gallery for some time!

Wow - and what a gallery! All really excellent - enjoyed them all.

One standout (by a gnat's whatsit) for me is Pat Temmerman's 'Sky Above, Sea 
Below'.



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