Re: Are Teleconverters a Con?

[Alan C]

Yes, Paul, I agree. Your images are excellent. Do you crop the TC images 
& if you cropped an image without the TC to the same size would it be 
just as good?


Alan C

On 16-Jul-21 08:41 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Most of my bird photos are shot with the DA 1.4x. Excellent glass,

Paul


On Jul 16, 2021, at 1:55 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

The short answer is no they're not a scam.  However, most TCs will magnify any 
shortcomings in the system they are added to. Cheap TCs come with their own 
sets of optical problems and failings, but a good one, or a matched TC will 
give good enough results, for a price.  The problem is as time goes on you 
often don't get what you pay for.  I played around with a number of TCs 
inexpensive and in some cases very expensive during and after the film era and 
the only ones that really were worth while that I used, were the Pentax 1.7 AF 
adapter, not strictly a TC but it works as one on lenses up to the * 300mm f4.0 
twins, with decent results.  Though neither of those lenses is the most 
optically stellar Pentax telephotos.  The Vivitar 2x Macro focusing TC worked 
very well with shorter focal lengths say between 40mm and 100mm, especially on 
film, on digital it was a little less useful and the images sometimes left a 
bit to be desired.  The Vivitar 70-150mm with it's matched multiplier gave 
results that were very close to the lens alone, unfortunately that lens was 
subject to an incredible amount of veiling flair so unless the photo gods were 
smiling the results were pretty poor most of the time.


On 7/16/2021 5:00 AM, Alan C wrote:
All teleconverters degrade the image to some extent, 2x more than 1.4x. In film 
& 6Mp days cropping wasn't really an option so they did give more reach without 
the expense of a longer lens. Long ago I had an M42 Vivitar 2x which made my 
SuperTak 55/2 a useful 110/4. Given a high quality TC and a fast host lens, good 
results are possible. However with the high Mp sensors now in common use, a cropped 
image without the TC may be just as good or even better so what is the point? Only 
perhaps cropping options of the TC image which starts with full Mp?

Alan C
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

--
America wasn't founded so that we could all be better.
America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please.
- P.J. O'Rourke


--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Are Teleconverters a Con?

[Paul Stenquist]

Most of my bird photos are shot with the DA 1.4x. Excellent glass,

Paul

> On Jul 16, 2021, at 1:55 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> The short answer is no they're not a scam.  However, most TCs will magnify 
> any shortcomings in the system they are added to. Cheap TCs come with their 
> own sets of optical problems and failings, but a good one, or a matched TC 
> will give good enough results, for a price.  The problem is as time goes on 
> you often don't get what you pay for.  I played around with a number of TCs 
> inexpensive and in some cases very expensive during and after the film era 
> and the only ones that really were worth while that I used, were the Pentax 
> 1.7 AF adapter, not strictly a TC but it works as one on lenses up to the * 
> 300mm f4.0 twins, with decent results.  Though neither of those lenses is the 
> most optically stellar Pentax telephotos.  The Vivitar 2x Macro focusing TC 
> worked very well with shorter focal lengths say between 40mm and 100mm, 
> especially on film, on digital it was a little less useful and the images 
> sometimes left a bit to be desired.  The Vivitar 70-150mm with it's matched 
> multiplier gave results that were very close to the lens alone, unfortunately 
> that lens was subject to an incredible amount of veiling flair so unless the 
> photo gods were smiling the results were pretty poor most of the time.
> 
>> On 7/16/2021 5:00 AM, Alan C wrote:
>> All teleconverters degrade the image to some extent, 2x more than 1.4x. In 
>> film & 6Mp days cropping wasn't really an option so they did give more reach 
>> without the expense of a longer lens. Long ago I had an M42 Vivitar 2x which 
>> made my SuperTak 55/2 a useful 110/4. Given a high quality TC and a fast 
>> host lens, good results are possible. However with the high Mp sensors now 
>> in common use, a cropped image without the TC may be just as good or even 
>> better so what is the point? Only perhaps cropping options of the TC image 
>> which starts with full Mp?
>> 
>> Alan C
>> -- 
>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
>> follow the directions.
> 
> -- 
> America wasn't founded so that we could all be better.
> America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please.
>- P.J. O'Rourke
> 
> 
> -- 
> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
> https://www.avg.com
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Lightroom Problem, solved (for now...?)

[Bill]

Lightroom was probably looking for 43000 pictures of people.

bill

On Fri., Jul. 16, 2021, 1:50 p.m. Rick Womer,  wrote:

> The problem with the unwanted face detection (which could not be turned
> off) evolved quickly into LR thinking that I had 43,000 missing photos, in
> addtion to the 50,000 actual photos on my hard drive. It also seemed to
> attach some urgency to my finding said photos, though they did not exist.
>
> I had 2 long on-line sesions with Adobe support staff, which got nowhere;
> they ended with some suggestions that I tried, and they just didn’t work.
>
> Wednesday I tried again and got a tech (Nisha) who was bright, curious,
> and eager to be helpful. The upshot of four hours interacting via Bomgar
> (allowing her to control my computer remotely while chatting) was that LR
> had become convinced, for no apparent reason, that I was hiding a folder
> that contained the 44,000 missing pics. She managed to persuade Lightroom
> that this was not the case, and then we set about rebuilding and checking
> the catalog.
>
> So… It appears that I’m back in business. Might have to post a PESO again
> this weekend.
>
> Rick
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> follow the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Lightroom Problem, solved (for now...?)

[Rick Womer]

The problem with the unwanted face detection (which could not be turned off) 
evolved quickly into LR thinking that I had 43,000 missing photos, in addtion 
to the 50,000 actual photos on my hard drive. It also seemed to attach some 
urgency to my finding said photos, though they did not exist.

I had 2 long on-line sesions with Adobe support staff, which got nowhere; they 
ended with some suggestions that I tried, and they just didn’t work.

Wednesday I tried again and got a tech (Nisha) who was bright, curious, and 
eager to be helpful. The upshot of four hours interacting via Bomgar (allowing 
her to control my computer remotely while chatting) was that LR had become 
convinced, for no apparent reason, that I was hiding a folder that contained 
the 44,000 missing pics. She managed to persuade Lightroom that this was not 
the case, and then we set about rebuilding and checking the catalog.

So… It appears that I’m back in business. Might have to post a PESO again this 
weekend.

Rick
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[Alan C]

Thanks, Mark.

The authorities & vigilantes seem to have tamed the hot-spots but 
everyone will need to be wide awake 24/7 going forward. This thing was 
well organised. There was plenty of intelligence on social media which 
was simply ignored.


Alan C

On 16-Jul-21 06:39 PM, Mark C wrote:
Sorry to hear that, Alan. I've seen a few references to the situation 
in the news but had no idea it was so widespread. I hope you and your 
family are able to stay safe.


Mark

On 7/15/2021 6:32 AM, Alan C wrote:

Just to let you know.

Sparked by the imprisonment of former President Jacob Zuma, South 
Africa has descended into a near state of anarchy in several densely 
populated areas no doubt orchestrated by Zuma supporters. The level 
of destruction is very serious & will lead to many problems in the 
near future especially the distribution of essential goods because 
delivery trucks have been burned on the highways too.


The authorities have been slow to react but Taxi Associations & 
vigilanties are fighting back to save their infrastructure from 
pillage. The Police & Army have been overwhelmed.


Fortunately there are no problems in the Lowveld yet but roadblocks 
have been set up on the main roads into Phalaborwa as a precaution 
after intelligence suggested that hordes may be on their way.


Please look on the internet if you want more details & commentary.


Alan C
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above 
and follow the directions.


--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
follow the directions.

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: 16-50 redo

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 16.07.21 um 18:54 schrieb Bill:


That's what being a niche player is all about. It worked for Leica for
decades.


But lately only thanks to rich collectors from the Far East.

Their traditional European customer base of lawyers and dentists with
lots of undeclared money is slowly dying and most European countries no
longer allow bigger cash payments.

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Are Teleconverters a Con?

[P. J. Alling]

The short answer is no they're not a scam.  However, most TCs will 
magnify any shortcomings in the system they are added to. Cheap TCs come 
with their own sets of optical problems and failings, but a good one, or 
a matched TC will give good enough results, for a price.  The problem is 
as time goes on you often don't get what you pay for.  I played around 
with a number of TCs inexpensive and in some cases very expensive during 
and after the film era and the only ones that really were worth while 
that I used, were the Pentax 1.7 AF adapter, not strictly a TC but it 
works as one on lenses up to the * 300mm f4.0 twins, with decent 
results.  Though neither of those lenses is the most optically stellar 
Pentax telephotos.  The Vivitar 2x Macro focusing TC worked very well 
with shorter focal lengths say between 40mm and 100mm, especially on 
film, on digital it was a little less useful and the images sometimes 
left a bit to be desired.  The Vivitar 70-150mm with it's matched 
multiplier gave results that were very close to the lens alone, 
unfortunately that lens was subject to an incredible amount of veiling 
flair so unless the photo gods were smiling the results were pretty poor 
most of the time.


On 7/16/2021 5:00 AM, Alan C wrote:
All teleconverters degrade the image to some extent, 2x more than 
1.4x. In film & 6Mp days cropping wasn't really an option so they did 
give more reach without the expense of a longer lens. Long ago I had 
an M42 Vivitar 2x which made my SuperTak 55/2 a useful 110/4. Given a 
high quality TC and a fast host lens, good results are possible. 
However with the high Mp sensors now in common use, a cropped image 
without the TC may be just as good or even better so what is the 
point? Only perhaps cropping options of the TC image which starts with 
full Mp?


Alan C
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
follow the directions.


--
America wasn't founded so that we could all be better.
America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please.
- P.J. O'Rourke


--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: 16-50 redo

[Alan C]

Does it count if you put a few pictures on your noticeboard?

Alan C


On 16-Jul-21 07:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Leica almost died a couple of times.

I'll bet Pentax still makes money for Ricoh on every unit sold. In 
fact the imaging division may be the only profit center making a profit.


There is also a lot of synergy in their current, and past digital 
camera lines.  I expect the the next K1 iteration will have the 
focusing module that's in the K-3III and the new processing engine 
with very little difference in programming, but a faster bus, to make 
the frame rate a bit more competitive.


If there is a follow on to the 645z, and I think there probably will 
be since most of the R was done for the K-3III, the new bus, 
processor and AF modules will all be rolled into that model, with only 
minimal changes to firmware, and almost no changes to the actual 
hardware beyond flex boards and chips.


It would be nice to see a few new lenses for the 645 line but when I 
was working for an actual working pro, he only had two normal lenses, 
a wide and portrait telephoto for his brace of Bronicas.


On 7/16/2021 1:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Yes, but no company has the snob appeal of Leica!

Dan Matyola
*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*



On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 12:54 PM Bill  
wrote:


On Fri., Jul. 16, 2021, 8:48 a.m. Daniel J. Matyola, 

wrote:


It sounds like Ricoh is designing wonderful niche lenses that few need

and

fewer can afford.


That's what being a niche player is all about. It worked for Leica for
decades.

bill

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions.


--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above 
and follow the directions.



--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: 16-50 redo

[Bill]

Leica is putting their name onto Huawei camera phones these days.
The mighty have kind of fallen off their plinth.


On Fri., Jul. 16, 2021, 11:04 a.m. Daniel J. Matyola, 
wrote:

> Yes, but no company has the snob appeal of Leica!
>
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 12:54 PM Bill  wrote:
>
> > On Fri., Jul. 16, 2021, 8:48 a.m. Daniel J. Matyola, <
> danmaty...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It sounds like Ricoh is designing wonderful niche lenses that few need
> > and
> > > fewer can afford.
> > >
> >
> > That's what being a niche player is all about. It worked for Leica for
> > decades.
> >
> > bill
> >
> > >
> > --
> > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> > follow the directions.
> >
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> follow the directions.
>
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: 16-50 redo

[P. J. Alling]

Leica almost died a couple of times.

I'll bet Pentax still makes money for Ricoh on every unit sold. In fact 
the imaging division may be the only profit center making a profit.


There is also a lot of synergy in their current, and past digital camera 
lines.  I expect the the next K1 iteration will have the focusing module 
that's in the K-3III and the new processing engine with very little 
difference in programming, but a faster bus, to make the frame rate a 
bit more competitive.


If there is a follow on to the 645z, and I think there probably will be 
since most of the R was done for the K-3III, the new bus, processor 
and AF modules will all be rolled into that model, with only minimal 
changes to firmware, and almost no changes to the actual hardware beyond 
flex boards and chips.


It would be nice to see a few new lenses for the 645 line but when I was 
working for an actual working pro, he only had two normal lenses, a wide 
and portrait telephoto for his brace of Bronicas.


On 7/16/2021 1:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Yes, but no company has the snob appeal of Leica!

Dan Matyola
*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*



On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 12:54 PM Bill  wrote:


On Fri., Jul. 16, 2021, 8:48 a.m. Daniel J. Matyola, 
It sounds like Ricoh is designing wonderful niche lenses that few need

and

fewer can afford.


That's what being a niche player is all about. It worked for Leica for
decades.

bill

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions.


--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


--
America wasn't founded so that we could all be better.
America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please.
- P.J. O'Rourke


--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: 16-50 redo

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Yes, but no company has the snob appeal of Leica!

Dan Matyola
*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*



On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 12:54 PM Bill  wrote:

> On Fri., Jul. 16, 2021, 8:48 a.m. Daniel J. Matyola,  >
> wrote:
>
> > It sounds like Ricoh is designing wonderful niche lenses that few need
> and
> > fewer can afford.
> >
>
> That's what being a niche player is all about. It worked for Leica for
> decades.
>
> bill
>
> >
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> follow the directions.
>
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: 16-50 redo

[Bill]

On Fri., Jul. 16, 2021, 8:48 a.m. Daniel J. Matyola, 
wrote:

> It sounds like Ricoh is designing wonderful niche lenses that few need and
> fewer can afford.
>

That's what being a niche player is all about. It worked for Leica for
decades.

bill

>
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[Mark C]

Sorry to hear that, Alan. I've seen a few references to the situation in 
the news but had no idea it was so widespread. I hope you and your 
family are able to stay safe.


Mark

On 7/15/2021 6:32 AM, Alan C wrote:

Just to let you know.

Sparked by the imprisonment of former President Jacob Zuma, South 
Africa has descended into a near state of anarchy in several densely 
populated areas no doubt orchestrated by Zuma supporters. The level of 
destruction is very serious & will lead to many problems in the near 
future especially the distribution of essential goods because delivery 
trucks have been burned on the highways too.


The authorities have been slow to react but Taxi Associations & 
vigilanties are fighting back to save their infrastructure from 
pillage. The Police & Army have been overwhelmed.


Fortunately there are no problems in the Lowveld yet but roadblocks 
have been set up on the main roads into Phalaborwa as a precaution 
after intelligence suggested that hordes may be on their way.


Please look on the internet if you want more details & commentary.


Alan C
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
follow the directions.


--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: 16-50 redo

[Daniel J. Matyola]

It sounds like Ricoh is designing wonderful niche lenses that few need and
fewer can afford.

Dan Matyola
*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*



On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 6:03 AM  wrote:

> They are yes, and it promises to be an outstanding lens.
>
> Mike Muizenbelt did a short review of a pre-release copy on Youtube.
>
> It is focussing fast and accurate, and is amazingly sharp, even in the
> corners.
>
>
> However, since I already have the older one (SDM) which works OK, and also
> have the K1 with 24-70 en 15-30, an upgrade is not really worth it at some
> 1400 Euros/dollars I think ;-)
>
> Regards, JvW
>
>
> > On 15 Jul 2021, at 08:49, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >
> > It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50:
> >
> >
> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/
> >
> > My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50 or
> some other adjustment to the range just so it isn’t confused for the
> original.
> >
> > I also note that this bodes well for K-3 iii owners, but maybe not so
> well for the K-1 crowd.
> >
> > In any case, it will be interesting to see how it actually performs once
> it is available.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Larry Colen
> > l...@red4est.com
> >
> >
> > --
> > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> follow the directions.
>
> --
> Jan van Wijk;   https://www.dfsee.com/gallery
>
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> follow the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

OT: Rioting in Africa, Flooding in Germany and Belgium...

[Stanley Halpin]

Political storms, natural storms… My best wishes to Alan and all of you 
affected by these nasty storms.

Stan
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[ann sanfedele]

The sky is falling all over the world in so many ways..

 Glad you are in a "fairly remote" area..

ann

On 7/16/2021 2:52 AM, Alan C wrote:
Thanks all for your concern. Fortunately we are in a fairly remote 
part of SA so well away from the trouble.


Criminals are still taking advantage of the situation where they can. 
Yesterday they robbed & vandalised a Crematorium & a Psychiatric 
Hospital - can you believe it? Tragic for all the targeted business 
owners who have lost so much. An amnesty has been proposed for looters 
to return goods without fear of prosecution. One commentator said 
yesterday that "concerned" politicians don't have a leg to stand on 
because they have been looting state funds from metaphorical 
supermarkets for years! Zuma supporters & incompetents lurking in the 
Cabinet have now been exposed. A major Cabinet re-shuffle can't be far 
away.


Alan C

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
follow the directions.


--
ann sanfedele photography
https://annsan.smugmug.com
https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts
https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan
https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: 16-50 redo

[pentax]

They are yes, and it promises to be an outstanding lens.

Mike Muizenbelt did a short review of a pre-release copy on Youtube.

It is focussing fast and accurate, and is amazingly sharp, even in the corners.


However, since I already have the older one (SDM) which works OK, and also have 
the K1 with 24-70 en 15-30, an upgrade is not really worth it at some 1400 
Euros/dollars I think ;-)

Regards, JvW


> On 15 Jul 2021, at 08:49, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50:
> 
> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/
> 
> My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50 or some 
> other adjustment to the range just so it isn’t confused for the original.
> 
> I also note that this bodes well for K-3 iii owners, but maybe not so well 
> for the K-1 crowd.  
> 
> In any case, it will be interesting to see how it actually performs once it 
> is available.
> 
> 
> --
> Larry Colen
> l...@red4est.com
> 
> 
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.

--
Jan van Wijk;   https://www.dfsee.com/gallery

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: The ist D

[pentax]

Great video Juan!

I like your style of street photography very much.

Had an MX as wel as an Ist-D myself, the latter died with a failing CF 
card-slot, but it was a nice cam indeed.

Regards, JvW

> On 29 Jun 2021, at 23:31, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Lovely job Juan. Great audio mix, nicely edited, and you’ve settled on a 
> standardised set of captions (nice touch with the movement). The one issue 
> with shooting close-ups is that small imperfections are visible - including 
> dust. I always give things a wipe down first, lessens the smudges and bits of 
> crap stuck to things ;-)
> 
> Top job. We have an *ist D as well so was more than a little interested. My 
> Mrs uses it with a kit lens and it doesn’t disappoint - fine for web images 
> and I even print from it occasionally. She likes to photograph plants which I 
> print on an Epson P50 (black+5 colour) at A5 size to make into cards.
> 
> I recently did a paid gig for a boat building charity - a day’s shoot and a 
> couple of day’s edit:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoEVsvYZ71E
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Cotty
> 
> 
> On 29 Jun 2021, at 18:13, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> 
> I uploaded a little video "review" of the old ist D:
> 
> https://youtu.be/D7AppzyiFII
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.

--
Jan van Wijk;   https://www.dfsee.com/gallery

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Are Teleconverters a Con?

[Alan C]

All teleconverters degrade the image to some extent, 2x more than 1.4x. 
In film & 6Mp days cropping wasn't really an option so they did give 
more reach without the expense of a longer lens. Long ago I had an M42 
Vivitar 2x which made my SuperTak 55/2 a useful 110/4. Given a high 
quality TC and a fast host lens, good results are possible. However with 
the high Mp sensors now in common use, a cropped image without the TC 
may be just as good or even better so what is the point? Only perhaps 
cropping options of the TC image which starts with full Mp?


Alan C
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[Alan C]

Thanks all for your concern. Fortunately we are in a fairly remote part 
of SA so well away from the trouble.


Criminals are still taking advantage of the situation where they can. 
Yesterday they robbed & vandalised a Crematorium & a Psychiatric 
Hospital - can you believe it? Tragic for all the targeted business 
owners who have lost so much. An amnesty has been proposed for looters 
to return goods without fear of prosecution. One commentator said 
yesterday that "concerned" politicians don't have a leg to stand on 
because they have been looting state funds from metaphorical 
supermarkets for years! Zuma supporters & incompetents lurking in the 
Cabinet have now been exposed. A major Cabinet re-shuffle can't be far away.


Alan C

--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[Paul Sorenson]

Stay safe, Alan.

-p

On 7/15/2021 5:32 AM, Alan C wrote:

Just to let you know.

Sparked by the imprisonment of former President Jacob Zuma, South 
Africa has descended into a near state of anarchy in several densely 
populated areas no doubt orchestrated by Zuma supporters. The level of 
destruction is very serious & will lead to many problems in the near 
future especially the distribution of essential goods because delivery 
trucks have been burned on the highways too.


The authorities have been slow to react but Taxi Associations & 
vigilanties are fighting back to save their infrastructure from 
pillage. The Police & Army have been overwhelmed.


Fortunately there are no problems in the Lowveld yet but roadblocks 
have been set up on the main roads into Phalaborwa as a precaution 
after intelligence suggested that hordes may be on their way.


Please look on the internet if you want more details & commentary.


Alan C
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
follow the directions.


--
Paul Sorenson
Studio1941

Sooner or later "different" scares people.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.