Re: September PUG is up - Again....

[ann sanfedele]

Paul  - I think we were looking in the same places..  ..

ann

On 9/8/2022 6:10 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Thanks to all for looking, liking and commenting on my "jetty".

Of all the definitions I found, the most popular was an object 
extending into the water to create a harbor. In my defense, however, a 
couple secondary definitions called it an object extending from the 
shore into the water for the purpose of fishing and/or tying up a boat.


In any case, thanks for the positive comments and the lively discussion.

-p

On 9/8/2022 2:32 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
I didn't see (either) Paul ask about a pier vs a jetty  but I had 
been bothered by that as well..
which is partly why I gave up trying to find a Pentax taken shot for 
this month.. and
the one shot I had (that would have been a repeat PUG submission ) 
was only a pier... ;-)


ann




On 9/8/2022 1:27 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

With Ralf's image, that makes 14, a rather respectable gallery.

To answer Paul's question, no, a pier is not a jetty.  Still, his Avila
Pier is my favorite image of the month.  Strong perspective, nice 
patterns
and textures, and a definite mood.  I also really like Misty, by 
Patrick

Nelson;  a fine, moody, minimalist image.  I think the long light pole,
jutting out from the main object of attention, really makes this shot
special.

*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*



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Re: September PUG is up - Again....

[Paul Sorenson]

Thanks to all for looking, liking and commenting on my "jetty".

Of all the definitions I found, the most popular was an object extending 
into the water to create a harbor. In my defense, however, a couple 
secondary definitions called it an object extending from the shore into 
the water for the purpose of fishing and/or tying up a boat.


In any case, thanks for the positive comments and the lively discussion.

-p

On 9/8/2022 2:32 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
I didn't see (either) Paul ask about a pier vs a jetty  but I had been 
bothered by that as well..
which is partly why I gave up trying to find a Pentax taken shot for 
this month.. and
the one shot I had (that would have been a repeat PUG submission ) was 
only a pier... ;-)


ann




On 9/8/2022 1:27 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

With Ralf's image, that makes 14, a rather respectable gallery.

To answer Paul's question, no, a pier is not a jetty.  Still, his Avila
Pier is my favorite image of the month.  Strong perspective, nice 
patterns

and textures, and a definite mood.  I also really like Misty, by Patrick
Nelson;  a fine, moody, minimalist image.  I think the long light pole,
jutting out from the main object of attention, really makes this shot
special.

*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*



On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 5:37 AM Brian W  wrote:

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Re: September PUG is up - Again....

[Rick Womer]

I looked it up in the Oxford English Dictionary (the one that comes with a 
magnifying glass and is still massive).

The first definition of a jetty is a stone structure that marks or protects the 
entrance to a harbor. Another is a stone structure projecting from a wharf.

The last definition boils down to “a pier.”

Happy to share our OED with anyone who stops by!

Rick



> On Sep 8, 2022, at 3:32 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I didn't see (either) Paul ask about a pier vs a jetty  but I had been 
> bothered by that as well..
> which is partly why I gave up trying to find a Pentax taken shot for this 
> month.. and
> the one shot I had (that would have been a repeat PUG submission ) was only a 
> pier... ;-)
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/8/2022 1:27 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> With Ralf's image, that makes 14, a rather respectable gallery.
>> 
>> To answer Paul's question, no, a pier is not a jetty.  Still, his Avila
>> Pier is my favorite image of the month.  Strong perspective, nice patterns
>> and textures, and a definite mood.  I also really like Misty, by Patrick
>> Nelson;  a fine, moody, minimalist image.  I think the long light pole,
>> jutting out from the main object of attention, really makes this shot
>> special.
>> 
>> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
>> *
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 5:37 AM Brian W  wrote:
>> 
>>> This time including Ralf's contribution which  originally disappeared in
>>> cyberspace.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
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Re: September PUG is up - Again....

[Bob Pdml]

Either way, if it’s good enough for a cormorant, it’s good enough for us.

> On 8 Sep 2022, at 21:41, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> According to Wikipedia:
> 
> "A jetty is a structure that projects from land out into water. A jetty may 
> serve as a breakwater, as a walkway, or both;"
> 
> So, a pier COULD BE a jetty, but it doesn't have to be.
> 
> Plus this is PDML, so I don't really expect strict adherence to matters of 
> proper form. It don't even have to be close enough for government work IYKWIM.
> 
>> On 9/8/2022 3:32 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>> I didn't see (either) Paul ask about a pier vs a jetty  but I had been 
>> bothered by that as well..
>> which is partly why I gave up trying to find a Pentax taken shot for this 
>> month.. and
>> the one shot I had (that would have been a repeat PUG submission ) was only 
>> a pier... ;-)
>> ann
>>> On 9/8/2022 1:27 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> With Ralf's image, that makes 14, a rather respectable gallery.
>>> 
>>> To answer Paul's question, no, a pier is not a jetty.  Still, his Avila
>>> Pier is my favorite image of the month.  Strong perspective, nice patterns
>>> and textures, and a definite mood.  I also really like Misty, by Patrick
>>> Nelson;  a fine, moody, minimalist image.  I think the long light pole,
>>> jutting out from the main object of attention, really makes this shot
>>> special.
>>> 
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Re: September PUG is up - Again....

[John Sessoms]

According to Wikipedia:

"A jetty is a structure that projects from land out into water. A jetty 
may serve as a breakwater, as a walkway, or both;"


So, a pier COULD BE a jetty, but it doesn't have to be.

Plus this is PDML, so I don't really expect strict adherence to matters 
of proper form. It don't even have to be close enough for government 
work IYKWIM.


On 9/8/2022 3:32 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
I didn't see (either) Paul ask about a pier vs a jetty  but I had been 
bothered by that as well..
which is partly why I gave up trying to find a Pentax taken shot for 
this month.. and
the one shot I had (that would have been a repeat PUG submission ) was 
only a pier... ;-)


ann




On 9/8/2022 1:27 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

With Ralf's image, that makes 14, a rather respectable gallery.

To answer Paul's question, no, a pier is not a jetty.  Still, his Avila
Pier is my favorite image of the month.  Strong perspective, nice 
patterns

and textures, and a definite mood.  I also really like Misty, by Patrick
Nelson;  a fine, moody, minimalist image.  I think the long light pole,
jutting out from the main object of attention, really makes this shot
special.

*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*



On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 5:37 AM Brian W  wrote:


This time including Ralf's contribution which  originally disappeared in
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Re: More disappearing photos! Aaaargh!

[John Sessoms]

Yeah, it's just that if two drives got corrupted at the same time, I'd 
wonder about the computer they're attached to.


WHY did the drives get corrupted? Could the computer be doing something 
that's going to corrupt other drives?


Even if it was one drive went bad several months ago and the other went 
bad this week, I'd still want to know the computer wasn't at fault.


On 9/8/2022 3:15 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

John, the problem appears to be with my hard drives, which got corrupted blocks 
at the same time. I plan to back up everything, use DiskUtility to reformat 
both drives, and then transfer my data back.

A lot more fun than taking pictures, right?

(Aaargh)

Rick


On Sep 7, 2022, at 6:02 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

One reason I don't use Lightroom is because my initial experience with it had 
it trying to hide the catalog from me. I couldn't find the files after I first 
loaded them (among other problems).

Can the computer find the files? Not using Lightroom; just the computer itself?

Can you do the Backblaze backup using a different external drive?

I may be teaching Grandma to suck eggs, but those are some simple diagnostic 
steps that can help you decide if the problem is with Lightroom, Backblaze, 
your external drives or your computer itself.

FWIW, here on my Windoze PC I can view DNG files using Irfanview and FastStone 
Image Viewer, so if I suspected a bad card, I could check it out on this different 
computer (I have a separate computer I built for photography & editing).

I think both of those programs are available for Apple/Mac, so if you need a 
way to check whether the images are still on the card ...

On 9/6/2022 10:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

It happened again.
Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I took 
about 50 shots.
As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the 
reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and eat 
dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only for that 
purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup.
I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be posted 
as PESOs.
This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with an 
exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups (which 
I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my backup drive 
or in Backblaze.
I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and now 
it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few months.
Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
Rick
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Re: September PUG is up - Again....

[ann sanfedele]

I didn't see (either) Paul ask about a pier vs a jetty  but I had been 
bothered by that as well..
which is partly why I gave up trying to find a Pentax taken shot for 
this month.. and
the one shot I had (that would have been a repeat PUG submission ) was 
only a pier... ;-)


ann




On 9/8/2022 1:27 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

With Ralf's image, that makes 14, a rather respectable gallery.

To answer Paul's question, no, a pier is not a jetty.  Still, his Avila
Pier is my favorite image of the month.  Strong perspective, nice patterns
and textures, and a definite mood.  I also really like Misty, by Patrick
Nelson;  a fine, moody, minimalist image.  I think the long light pole,
jutting out from the main object of attention, really makes this shot
special.

*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*



On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 5:37 AM Brian W  wrote:


This time including Ralf's contribution which  originally disappeared in
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Re: More disappearing photos! Aaaargh!

[Rick Womer]

John, the problem appears to be with my hard drives, which got corrupted blocks 
at the same time. I plan to back up everything, use DiskUtility to reformat 
both drives, and then transfer my data back.

A lot more fun than taking pictures, right?

(Aaargh)

Rick

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 6:02 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> One reason I don't use Lightroom is because my initial experience with it had 
> it trying to hide the catalog from me. I couldn't find the files after I 
> first loaded them (among other problems).
> 
> Can the computer find the files? Not using Lightroom; just the computer 
> itself?
> 
> Can you do the Backblaze backup using a different external drive?
> 
> I may be teaching Grandma to suck eggs, but those are some simple diagnostic 
> steps that can help you decide if the problem is with Lightroom, Backblaze, 
> your external drives or your computer itself.
> 
> FWIW, here on my Windoze PC I can view DNG files using Irfanview and 
> FastStone Image Viewer, so if I suspected a bad card, I could check it out on 
> this different computer (I have a separate computer I built for photography & 
> editing).
> 
> I think both of those programs are available for Apple/Mac, so if you need a 
> way to check whether the images are still on the card ...
> 
> On 9/6/2022 10:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> It happened again.
>> Yesterday I took the K-5 and 50-200 for a walk around the neighborhood. I 
>> took about 50 shots.
>> As soon as I got home, I removed the card from the camera, put it into the 
>> reader, and loaded the photos into Lightroom.
>> I ejected the card, but did not erase it. Before I went down to prepare and 
>> eat dinner I started a Time Machine backup to an external drive used only 
>> for that purpose; and when that was complete I launched a Backblaze backup.
>> I worked on the photos in LR after dinner, and worked up 9 of them to be 
>> posted as PESOs.
>> This evening, I went to post the PESOs. Lightroom now has a little box with 
>> an exclamation point in it for every single photo, and yesterday’s backups 
>> (which I watched until they were complete) are not visible either on my 
>> backup drive or in Backblaze.
>> I’ve been using the same system since 2005, with no previous problems; and 
>> now it has screwed up twice in the past week, and 3 times in the last few 
>> months.
>> Any thoughtful ideas will be much appreciated.
>> Rick
>> (who might take up basket-weaving instead of photography…)
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Re: OT: For the list members in the UK

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I see that  a double rainbow appeared over Buckingham Palace today:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/buckingham-palace-london-westminster-elizabeth-tower-balmoral-b2163038.html

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 2:29 PM Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:

> Condolences to all in the UK on the death of Queen Elizabeth II.
>
> While I find the concept of royalty troubling, I respect those who looked
> up to her as a symbol of Great Britain and what it stands for.  She was a
> rock of stability in some very unsettled times for her hation and the world.
>
> Dan
>
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OT: For the list members in the UK

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Condolences to all in the UK on the death of Queen Elizabeth II.

While I find the concept of royalty troubling, I respect those who looked
up to her as a symbol of Great Britain and what it stands for.  She was a
rock of stability in some very unsettled times for her hation and the world.

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Re: September PUG is up - Again....

[Daniel J. Matyola]

With Ralf's image, that makes 14, a rather respectable gallery.

To answer Paul's question, no, a pier is not a jetty.  Still, his Avila
Pier is my favorite image of the month.  Strong perspective, nice patterns
and textures, and a definite mood.  I also really like Misty, by Patrick
Nelson;  a fine, moody, minimalist image.  I think the long light pole,
jutting out from the main object of attention, really makes this shot
special.

*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*



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> This time including Ralf's contribution which  originally disappeared in
> cyberspace.
>
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Re: Strange thing

[John Sessoms]

I didn't even know about that one. What I remember affected manual focus 
lenses & bodies.


But it may have been more or less the same problem, an extra part that 
caused the lens to get stuck.


On 9/7/2022 5:46 PM, Richard Dell wrote:

Ricoh added an extra  contact pin, which would get "caught" in the AF screw 
area or such.  I've removed some for using Ricoh tele-extenders.

https://austerityphoto.co.uk/k-mount-lens-carnage-with-the-infamous-ricoh-pin/

On September 7, 2022 1:38:45 PM AKDT, John Sessoms  
wrote:

I vaguely remember there was a problem either with Ricoh cameras or Ricoh 
lenses back in film days. They used the K-mount bayonet, but there was 
something they did different and either Ricoh lenses would get stuck if you 
mounted them on a Pentax camera or Pentax lenses would get stuck on Ricoh 
cameras.

I wish I remembered more specifically what the problem was, and I don't know if 
this relates to Bob's problem, but I hope it might somehow help.


On 9/6/2022 11:35 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Hi Bob!

Hmm. I'd seen some odd-ball Pentax lens mount stuff over the days when I was 
mucking with a bunch of Pentax -M and -A lenses and adapters. Never had a 
120mm, I'd be interested to see what the rear mounting flange looks like. I 
know a couple of Pentax lenses had to have the diaphragm control lever modified 
to fit one or another lens mount adapter out of the bunch that I had…

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On Sep 5, 2022, at 7:12 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Well, two strange things really.

First is an on-topic message from me.

Second is an oddity with a Pentax-M 120mm f2.8 lens that I have.

If anyone here has one of these, could you please compare the back of it with 
your other M lenses?

I have been doing some informal ‘shoot outs’ with my Pentax-M lenses and my 
Leica lenses, and will put them online if anyone is interested. Anyway, I have 
been using my Leica M10 monochrome body for all the shots, and a Novoflex 
adapter for the Pentax lenses, without any problems.

Except that the 120mm lens doesn’t fit the adapter.

On closer inspection, the bit at the back (sorry for the technical jargon) of 
the 120mm lens where the aperture levers are is significantly different from 
the other lenses. The photos at this link show you. The 120mm is on the left; 
the other lens is a 135mm, which is about the same size.

(A link to some pictures should go here, but the server keeps rejecting my 
emails with links. I’ll try to find another way of showing the pictures).

On the 135mm and other lenses there are some concentric grooves at the back, 
and it is stepped down. The 120mm is plain, and doesn’t have the step.

On the adapter there is a flange which goes down into the dropped part of the 
step when you put a lens on, and of course it can’t do this on the plain back 
end of the 120mm, so the adapter won’t go on the lens.

The lens fits my Pentax MX fine, as well as a number of other MXes I’ve been 
evaluating with a view to buying a new one. As far as I know it doesn’t affect 
anything when shooting. However, I need to test this lens specifically as any 
problems it causes may have become mixed up with problems which have caused me 
to reject other cameras.

It’s possible that someone has had the lens altered for some reason, although 
it is otherwise mint-, but it looks almost like a KF mount.

Anybody else have one like this?

Thanks,
Bob

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September PUG is up - Again....

[Brian W]

...and the link.

http://pug.komkon.org/
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September PUG is up - Again....

[Brian W]

This time including Ralf's contribution which  originally disappeared in
cyberspace.

Cheers
Brian
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