Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.
I also have many interests more important to me than photography: my family, my dogs, music, movies, collecting political campaign buttons and coins of imperial Russia, politic, religion, etc. I don't, however, presume to bore my Pentax friends on this list with my enthusiasms for all these other things. Bob Blakely wrote: I think that most folks on this list *assume* that the primary interest of the other members of the list is photography, either as their main or only hobby or for photography commercial purposes. This is a *false* assumption. I enjoy photography and probably have $15k or so in Pentax equipment. My primary avocation, however, is competitive shooting.
OT: Leonid photo
For those, like me, who were totally unsuccessful, there's a nivce photo of tis years Leonid storm on the Astronomy Picture of the Day site: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html The Geminids are coming up, but are not predicted to be strong. Dan
Re: If you left Pentax, what Scurvy Dawg system would you invite into your life?
Nikon, probably digital.
OT: Today in the History of Photography
On this day in 1839, an American chemistry professor named John William Draper took a photograph of the moon with a camera made out of a cigar box. He used a process like Daguerre's, but he came up with it by himself; Daguerre hadn't made his invention public yet. The plate was exposed for twenty minutes, and the image was one inch across. It was the first time anyone in the U.S. tried to take a picture of something in the sky. From the Writer's Almanac, http://almanac.mpr.org
Re: Hypothetical Question
In theory, I prefer my manual focus cameras, especially my Spotmatics, two of which still work, and my Non-MLU 6x7, or my SuperProgram, when I need a camera with a motor drive, to set up on the tripod and trigger with a long cable. My eyesight has faded a bit with age, however, so when I'm on vacation or at an event, when I need to take the shots more quickly, I usually take my MZ-5, because the autofocus helps a lot.
Re: Party pics, Russian-style,
If you start with the political comments again, we will all live to regret it. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: Re: Party pics, Russian-style, I do wish, though, that any leader who wants to start a war would be required to lead the troups, on the ground, out front, riding a horse and waving a big bright flag. I think the world would applaud if you all sent GW off to lead the charge into Iraq. But please, not on a horse. Horses are too nice to waste that way. William Robb -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: PUB submission form problem
Actually, it's 4.72. My finger hit the 7 too hard. I never was able to post my phot at the website with 4.72. For several months, I sent emails after several failed attempts. Then I got an early version of Opera, and that worked fine. I recently upgraded to the newest version of Opera, and actually paid for it, and now I can't post PUG entries through the website again. Otherwise, the new Opera works very well. I also downloaded the most recent version of Netscape, but I really hated it, and reverted to 4.72. I only used IE when I absolutely, positively have no other recourse. What really puzzles me is the error message I get: It says my file is only 1K, when I know it's 75K, and the confirmation I received after using IE also said it was 75K. I know there must be other Opera users in this group who post to the PUIG. Any suggestions? Ann Sanfedele wrote: Dan, Netscape 4.6 gave me no submission problems using the PUG form... did you mean, btw, Netscape 4.7 ? annsan -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: OT: A New Trademark
I thought I WAS being light! BTW, you can use the f-word all you want, but I'd prefer you not take the Lord's name in vain, please. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: A New Trademark Let's not start a political argument again! Fer Christ's sake Dan, lighten up. William Robb -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: OT: A New Trademark
Merry Christmas, William! William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: A New Trademark I thought I WAS being light! BTW, you can use the f-word all you want, but I'd prefer you not take the Lord's name in vain, please. I got a response, therefore it was not in vain. HAR!! Bill -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which oneis best?)
Some say the world will end in fire, Some say in ice. From what I've tasted of desire, I hold with those who favor fire, But I think I know enough of hate To say that for that destruction ice Is also great and will suffice. Hey guys, both square and rectangular formats work quite well. Each should choose the one that suits him or her best, or even better, learn to work with both! Photographers take pictures, not formats. Dan
Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which oneis best?)
I'm not wishy-washy, Ken. I have a 6X7, and would never switch. I just recognize that others might have different tastes and say fine, let them go their own way instead of bidding up the prices on 6X7 lenses even more! Ken Archer wrote: And to quote Charlie Brown, I'll fight for my right to be wishy-washy. On Sunday 29 December 2002 04:41 pm, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Hey guys, both square and rectangular formats work quite well. Each should choose the one that suits him or her best, or even better, learn to work with both!
Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which oneisbest?)
Now those are fighting words Mike Johnston wrote: Dan, you liberal!
Re: Chicken****
If your pictures aren't close enough, get closer is one I try to keep in mind. Dan Mike Johnston wrote: only ONE person who has defended the rules has so far had the guts to step forward and actually NAME any of them. I think this discussion will have to end here unless someone finds enough spine to actually swallow hard and tell the rest of us WHICH rules he or she keeps in mind while photographing, and finds so all-fired helpful.
Re: Candid (was Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich
Bob: It's a good thing you're in London, rather than New York, or you would be dead twice by now! Bob Walkden wrote: Hi, Don't complain, Boris. Over here, the moms pull out their celphone and call the cops to complain about he pedophile taking pictures of they kids. I had a couple mildly of amusing incidents this weekend. I was in a very beautiful travel bookshop in London on Saturday, which is illuminated from above by natural light streaming in through an atrium. It's a lovely, old wood-panelled place. Sitting among stacks of books about Paris was a distinguished old gentleman in a black beret. I had a camera with me so I wandered past him, took a light reading, wandered back again and took the first frame, intending to walk around him, shooting quietly and discreetly. Next thing I know there's this woman standing right in my face. She: Do have permission to photograph in here? Me: No. Do you work here? She (now very agressive): No. Why are you taking my photo? Me: (getting narked): Because that's what I do. I don't have to explain myself to you. She: It's illegal to photograph in a private place. Me: Madam, it is not. Check your law. Besides I don't give a damn. She then storms off in a huff. I was extremely angry but trying not to tell her to f--- off. She'd ruined my shot by now of course, so I stared at some bookshelves trying to calm down. A couple of minutes later one of the people who runs the shop pottered over to me. She undoubtedly recognised me as someone who has bought several hundred pounds worth of books off them. She: Did you take a photograph in here? Me: Yes, I did. That woman overreacted. She: Yes, she did. End of conversation. Later that same afternoon I went down the Tube to get a train a couple of stops. I've lived in London for a long time, and like all Londoners I walk quickly, directly and forcefully through crowds. But right now I can only walk slowly because I have some sort of problem with my hip. So I was on a crowded platform, the train was in and the doors were open. It was very crowded because it was Saturday in the West End, and people were being diverted because of a derailment elsewhere on the system. So I was hobbling slowly along the platform looking for a carriage with some space. Behind me I heard a guy say to his wife, in French Let's get in the next one, which is where I was heading. Then I hear him say, again in French, when we get past this c--t. So I stepped half into the door, blocking him, and glared at him so he knew I understood what he'd said, and just let the doors close while I got in and left him and Mme. standing cursing at me on the platform. I was a bit annoyed that I didn't give him a mouthful of the language I learned when I worked on a building site in Bordeaux. Still, har, har, har. I know that probably makes me sound like a shit, but the guy obviously thought nobody in England understands French, and he was being really pushy when it was obvious I was limping, so I felt justified and it cheered me up no end after the woman in the shop! Probably a Parisian! g IMHO, photography suffers seriously because only very specific kind of photography is seen by the general average public. I went with some friends to the Natural History Museum today and by chance there is a very large exhibition in the grounds, in open air, of photographs from 'Earth From the Air' by Yann-Arthus Bertrand (so I guess the French aren't all bad :o)). The images are very large, and superbly printed. The whole area was buzzing because the photos are so good. A great way to bring good photography to a lot of people. --- Bob -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: OT: Refurbished Dell Computers,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm very surprised to read this post. I thought Mac owners understood they were not allowed to admit publicly that Mac computers EVER have problems. First, its Microsoft, not Apple, that tries to comtrol everything its users do. Second, although we have Macs at home, at the office we are all Windoze, so i'm well aware of how rare it is to have problems with a mac, as compared to a PC, and therefore not at all reticent to admit that occasionally even a mac can have a hardware problem.
Re: NYC PDML: 2/22/03?
I'd really like to make the big meeting, but, unfortunately (??) I'll be in Maui that day. Please keep me up to date on what's going on, however. Dan gfen wrote: What: The PDML NY area meeting. Where: NYC. When: 2/23/03? Who: bruce rubenstein, [EMAIL PROTECTED] butch black, [EMAIL PROTECTED] herb chong, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ann sanfedele, [EMAIL PROTECTED] bob kelly, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cesar matamoros, [EMAIL PROTECTED] amita guha, [EMAIL PROTECTED] me!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, so, here's who's expressed interest thus far.. and I belive the 23rd (Saturday) is the day of choice? Who's interested, and whatever to do? I believe Ann volunteered to put together an off-list list for discussion. -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
OT: Mac v. PC
Apparently, the PowerBook can take the heat: http://homepage.mac.com/aaronsteele/Personal8.html I wonder how well the Pentax DSLR will stand up to heat if it doesn't turn to vaporware again!
Re: Bombing Japan - private
Bob: It's a habit we MUST maintain. First, however, we must remove the threat to peace and our security then on to mending fences and bringing the agressors into the community of civilized peoples. I belong to a small sect that is obligated, not only to forgive our enemies, but to pray for them and their welfare. I shall do so. Dan Bob Blakely wrote: It's the habit (or at least it was and I hope it still is) for the US to entirely forgive nations their transgressions against us and our allies. It's been our habit to aid in rebuilding the nations of former foes who no longer pose a threat to peace and who desire to live peaceably. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bombing Japan - private
I was a bombadier in Viet Nam. Believe me, we carpet bombed the jungle, but, for the most part, and until almost the very end, we were forbidden to target cities in North Viet Nam. Northern China was entirely out-of bounds, although supplie depots were there. For much of the war, we were forbidden to puruse the North Viet Najm army into Laos and Cambodia. We lost that war because ther was no legitimate government in the South worth the loyalty of its own people, but for much of the war, and until it was already clearly lost, we fought with one hand behind our backs. Dan Nenad Djurdjevic wrote: Not sure about Korea but the as far as Vietnam is concerned I have to bring to your attention that the US carpet bombed North Vietnam indiscriminately dropping a considerably higher tonnage of bombs than on Germany in WW2. They also used napalm and dropped highly toxic defoliant, the infamous agent orange to destroy the jungles that harboured the Vietcong. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Blaming Clinton
Christian: I pointed out what I believed was an interesting coincidence, at least to Americans, and your response was that I used American date style, instead of international style. To what purpose? As I stated, it happened here, and will continue to have a major impact here after its importance fades in the more neutral corners of the world. Dan Skofteland, Christian wrote: except that most of the world writes dates as dd/mm/yy which would make it 11/09/01 and The event is not incidental as I said before, I'll never forget it as I look at the NY skyline. The 911 meaning I believe is incidental. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bombing Afghanistan (was Bombing Japan)
Great response, Bob Dan (Also a veteran of that war) Bob Blakely wrote: As a veteran of that war, I can assure you that the US could have won that war. We had a Commander in Chief who would not wage war. Instead he attempted to make what was done a policing action. [etc] -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT- let's pray 2-
Then let's just ignore them Dan Aaron Reynolds wrote: Actually, Scoot's posts call for the death of everyone in the country, followed by the salting of the soil so that nothing will ever grow there. I believe that his posts are what everyone is getting worked up about. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG Stuff
William Robb wrote: Please note, the deadline for the October gallery approacheth rapidly. Is it the 20th? -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT. The Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings Part 2.
, petition the Emperor now to end the war. Our President has outlined for you the thirteen consequences of an honorable surrender; We urge that you accept these consequences and begin the work of building a new, better, and peace loving Japan. Act at once or we shall resolutely employ this bomb and all our other superior weapons to promptly and forcefully end the war. EVACUATE YOUR CITIES http://www.nuclearfiles.org/docs/1945/450806-flyer.html = = = = = = = = == = = = = = = = Someone claimed that the bombings were primarily targeted on military and strategic installations. In that case they did a very poor job, in that 95% of the totally maybe 200 000 people killed were civilians, mainly women, children and elderly men. = = = = = = = == = = = = = = == = = Was there an intention to kill civilians? On page 48, the official Bombing Survey Report says: Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen as targets because of their concentration of activities and population. The following two statements by president Truman, (one before, and one after the bombings) also provide some insights: On July 21, 1948 Truman confided some private thoughts on the atomic bomb to his staff. Chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission David Lilienthal recorded Truman's words in his diary that night, along with Lilienthal's own observations in parentheses: I don't think we ought to use this thing [the atomic bomb] unless we absolutely have to. It is a terrible thing to order the use of something that (here he looked down at his desk, rather reflectively} that is so terribly destructive, destructive beyond anything we have ever had. You have got to understand that this isn't a military weapon. (I shall never forget this particular expression). It is used to wipe out women and children and unarmed people, and not for military uses. (David Lilienthal, The Journals of David E. Lilienthal, Vol. Two, pg. 391). President Truman had his misgivings about using a-bombs on cities. Sec. of Commerce Henry Wallace wrote in his diary on Aug. 10th, Truman said he had given orders to stop atomic bombing. He said the thought of wiping out another 100,000 people was too horrible. He didn't like the idea of killing, as he said, 'all those kids'. (John Blum, ed., The Price of Vision: the Diary of Henry A. Wallace, 1942-1946, pg. 473-474). http://www.doug-long.com/index.htm = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = For an eywitness by a German priest, which will provide some food for thought, see http://www.wtj.com/archives/hiroshima.htm = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = I hope that this post, as well as the links, have been of some interest. If anybody has information contrary to the above, you are welcome to mail me in private. Lasse - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Visiting PDML'er - a little ray of sunshine
Jody wrote: snip You have a K-mart? I am so jealous. I have to drive 7hrs to get to my favourite department store, which is in danger of closing soon, due to immense competition from the cheap, junky Warehouse. A few years ago I visited Kotzebue, Alaska, North of the Arctic Circle on the Bering Sea. They refer to to the local garbage dump a K-Mart, since that's where they look when the need somethin. Kotzebue is not accessible by road, the small port is closed for much of the year, and air freight is quite expensive. Dan -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: If you don't now own a Mac, better get one (from Forbes Mag azine
Isn't that an oxymoron? Mick Maguire wrote: I am a Windows software engineer by profession. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG auto submission page not accessible?
I tried on several occasions to submit by the auto submission page, but I kept getting an error message at the end. Finally, this morning I submitted my entry by email. Sorry for any inconvenience caused by my incompetence. I had intended to submit an underwater shot of a giant sea turtle, but I gather that the PUG police no longer permit non-Pentax equipment shots, even from those who have been loyal to Pentax cameras for 35 years, except when required to shove the camera under the water. G Dan -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 645 or 67?
I love my 67. -Aaron I also love mine. Great instrument. Dan -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: BW Film choice
Mick: I don't know enough about BW films to help you there, but as an old Dartmouth Grad, I hope you post the results someplace! Dan Mick Maguire wrote: I'm thinking of doing some pictures at the Dartmouth college homecoming bonfire tonight. I had thought I might try doing some black and white shots in available light. Here is the list of what I have in the fridge (film wise) right now: Ilford Delta pro 100 Ilford XP2 400 Kodak TMax 100 Kodak TMax 400 What would be your choice, and recommendations for using it, i.e. pushing etc. Suggestions for other films would be interesting, but not an option as I can't get to a camera store today. BTW I don't do my own developing yet... Regards, /\/\ick... ++ || __/) Mick Maguire | | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (_/) ICQ: 48609010 | \/ | \ /---+ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peifer, William [OCDUS] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:57 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: what is a shift lens? Mick Maguire wrote: I'm intrigued... Regards, /\/\ick... Hi Mick, Oh boy, get your wallet out. (And don't ship this one by UPS -- har!!) A shift lens is an expensive optic that allows you to move the optic axis of the lens so that it intersects the film plane off-center and/or at some angle other than 90 degrees. Very nice for architectural shots, or anything else where you need perspective control -- i.e., to make sure that the parallel lines of the very large object show up as parallel lines in the image on your film. KEH has an SMC 28/3.5 shift lens, in bargain condition, for only $645. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What your favourite photo?
Edgerton's shot of a bullet passing through an apple, while the apple itself is balanced on the point of another bullet, is one of my favorites. Not only is the subject fascinating, but I also like the colors, the composition, and the contrast, physically and symbolically, between the apple and the bullets. I have also alway liked Joe Rosenthal's shot of the flag raising on Iwo Jima, partly because of my Marine background. I like it even more after reading Bradley's Flags of our Fathers, about the first flag raising, how the famous shot came about, what happened to the men in the photo, and the story of the battle itself.. It takes on more meaning -- and more power -- when it is combined with the shot of the Firemen with the flag at ground zero after the WTC disaster. The similarities are quite striking. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Time to Make Subjective PUG Comments Again
aimcompute wrote: Stingray by Dan Matyola I have an affinity for Stingrays (I've always admired the '63 with the wrap around rear window). I smiled back upon seeing this. What is the texture covering the picture? Was it the plastic you were shooting through? Thanks for your comments. I chose the shot because I love rays also, and had been swimming with a couple of them a few days earlier. Also because it seems to be smiling for the camera. I don't like the texture of the shoteither. I think it's partly the smudged plastic I was shooting through, but mostly just a bad scan on my clunky old flatbed. The print looks much better, although some smudges and reflections show on the plastic surface. Dan. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Depreciation of assets
Frantisek Vlcek wrote: Awful! Look at a better model: in Vietnam, AFAIK, taxes are not extracted from individuals but from corporations. To NOT tax corporations is just awful. The simple most externality producing entity, a big corporation, doesn't pay for the externalities it produces. That's immoral. Not necessarily. When corporations are taxed, the same profit get taxed twice; once on the corp profit, and once on the dividend income to the shareholders. Thus, if five people start up a business as a partnership, they will probalbly pay less taxes than if they start the same business as a corporation, although we have subchapter S corps for some, but not all corps, which allows treatment as if they were partners. There is no logical economic reason for double taxation, even with large corporations, as long as it is done fairly. There are, however, special tax laws for certain types of businesses (like oil companies), and certain transactions (like stock options) that can operate unfairly at times. It is the special tax breaks, however, that are the problem. Double taxation of corporate profits in general, IMHO, is still counterproductive and therefore unwise. It forces corporations to avoid paying the dividends they should really pay to their owners, the shareholders, which, for most corporations, are middle-income individuals. Dan -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: S in MZ-S
It's a thinly disguised dollar sign! Chris Brogden wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 25/11/01 11:25:38 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps it means: 1. Standard 2. Small 3. Super Anybody really know? Just curious. 4. Sexy 5. Sassy chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My PUG Picks
My personal favorite is St. Petersburg, City Centre, by Sergey SHP. I like the contrast between the sun and bright ground outside and the dark interior figures in the foreground. I also like the contrast between the soft focus on the distant figures and the sharper foreground focus. It gives the shot a dreamy feeling. Is that St. Isaac's dome in the distance? Who's giant foot is that in the right foreground, and where is that statue located? -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT Re: Smoking Killed George Harrison
Maybe the being stupid' part was caused by some of the other junk he took into his system over the years. Aaron Reynolds wrote: By the way, George attributed his cancer in an interview to being stupid and smoking a lot of cigarettes. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT, and ridiculous.......was: Re: flash stuff
Sorry, my mistake. It was my November 2000 PUG entry, Eagles, that showed some of the architecture in the Village. When I get my film scanner, hopefully soohn, I'll try to put up a page with more typical Village scenes than that one. The mud flats are what impressed me. They are every bit as extensive and forbidding as the series suggests. Dan aimcompute wrote: Dan, that picture was in Switzerland. I want to see the Village :-). -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: December PUG
I was not intentionally baiting. As I said in my comments, I had another location planned, where I hoped to get an interesting tree silouetted against the fading light. I had only ten minutes to the magic moment, however, and I wanted to do my shot EXACTLY on time, for some reason. The flag was the only thing in my yard that had enough light and color to make a reasonable shot. (With another camera, I tried to get the moon over a line of trees, and with a third, a contrail overhead, but neither came out.) When I scanned the flag, however, I thought to myself Boy, I'm got to get ssome heat on this subject. That's all I meant. frank theriault wrote: BTW, are you saying you were baiting people with your image this month? From that comment, it sure sounds that way. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Neutral countries (was: Re: December PUG)
Gianfranco: I was not intending to say that I think Italia is a neutral country, but that some now would like to remain neutral in the War against terrorism, and let it be an American problem. Certainly, Italia was NOT netral in WWII. It was a leader of the Fascist bloc, and took aggreesive action against an African nation that could not defend itself. Many Americans died liberating Italia. How may Italians would try to assist Americans, or Bosnians, or Israelis, today? You were indeed one of the two I expected to hear from when I scanned my flag for the PUG, because of your comments about the US after 9-11. Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: I'd prefer avoiding to say that, but you should study the recent Italian history better... As Frank kindly pointed out, most Italians remember well the WWII time. My mother was born in 1927 and has suffered from bombing in Naples from any belligerent, including Americans and Germans. In spite of that, she still has good memories of both... In most recent times, from the seventies till the nineties, we had hundreds of people killed by terrorists in many ways (I won't argue what kind of terrorists they were and what they sought - too complicated). That's due probably (more than just 'probably') to the fact that Italy is not a neutral country at all. I'm sad for all the Italians who suffered because of WWII, but remember that Italia helped start that war. My Uncle died in Europe to help Europeans end a war the US did not start or ask for. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: some interesting NG thoughts on digital consumers
Single malt Scotch. Once you try it a few time, everything else tastes like Ripple. Chris Brogden wrote: On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, aimcompute wrote: SHUT UP CHRIS! :-) :-) :-) But let me tell you one more thing... :) You drink RUM and Coke??? Step up to VO. You won't regret it! You mean vodka? I like that, too. I hate most alcohol, but I like vodka, run and gin if they're properly mixed. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 67II review
I agree. As a 6x7 user who lusts after the 67II, I found the review quite informative and enjoyable. aimcompute wrote: Thanks Dan. That was quite informative and well written. Tom C. - Original Message - From: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 11:37 AM Subject: Pentax 67II review http://www.luminous-landscape.com/pentax67ii.htm I saw the above review a few days ago and keep forgetting to post the URL to the list. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: December PUG
Albano, As I said in a previous post, I did not mean to suggest that you are anti-American. I knew, from your email address and your previous posts, that you are from Argentina. I was referring to others on the list who made comments about posts just after 9-11. I know that Argentina has suffered, as have we North Americans, from British aggression and internal strife. If, however, you were offended by the American flags in several posts, that's too bad. You should be a bit more tolerant of others' feelings, as obviously I should be. I don't really see why seeing the American flag in four or five entries should bother you. I try not to complain about all the damn cats in these pictures at times, becuase I'm a dog lover instead of a cat lover! Each to his own. I'm just a grumpy old man who can't stop saying what he thinks at times. Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Daniel. First, I'm not anti-american, because I'm american too (I live in south america). Second, if you read my message, you will read I say something like but I think it's ok due to the date it happened. It is, I understand you Americans with capital A. Third, my country (Argentina, in the butt of the world) in the nineties suffered two huge terrorist attacks. The first destroyed the Israel's embassy and the second, the jewish mutual asociation building. Both with bomb-cars, both in downtown and both with some hundred deaths. I suppose you never saw this in CNN, because my country doesn't exist for you, but my country knows what a terrorist attack is, REALLY. Regards and good light. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Great Leonid shot
Check out today's Astronomy page for a great shot of the Leonids: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Neutral countries (was: Re: December PUG)
As I recall, he made some rather disparaging remarks about fighting for people who lived so far away and had names that were so hard to pronounce, meaning the Czechs and Slovaks. Notice that these factors never deterred Britain from conquering far-away countries like India. He also claimed to deliver peace with honor and peace in our time. What he did was embolden Hitler to invade Poland. Politics was injected into this forum by the complaint that some PDML's actually had the nerve to photograph their country's flag for the PUG, at the time their country was suffering the effects of a great tragedy. Mick Maguire wrote: Well Daniel, you have now managed to insult an Englishman too (i.e. me)! It is well documented that Neville Chamberlain did not want to go to war because he did not want to subject the country to another war so soon after WWI. He desperately tried to avoid going to war by using every diplomatic means possible in the hope that lives could be saved. He was a man of *very* strong morals and the killing that war would have entailed was more than his conscience could bear.Perhaps this thread is a good example of why politics (as Mike J pointed out), is not a good subject for the PDML. Regards, /\/\ick... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Neutral countries (was: Re: December PUG) WWII was, IMHO, caused largely by Neville Chamberlain and others who felt it was better to appease Hitler than go to war over an insignificant country like Czechoslovakia, which was one of the first democracies in Eastern Europe. I fear that the same feelings of anything is better than war and it's not our problem, since it does not (yet) directly affect our country encourages aggressors and terrorists and, in the long run, makes war not only inevitable, but more desstructive than if action had been taken earlier. Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: The war, you should know better than me, is a matter of money and power. It is NOT a matter of moral or ethics or even religion. Everyone that states that is a liar. Trace the money, and you'll see who is interested in wars and who is not. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Neutral countries (was: Re: December PUG)
Noble intensions often produce unfortunate results. I really believe that the British monachy believed that it was acting on such noble intensions when it conquered much of Asia and Africa to carry out the white man's burden of civilizing the heathens. Some of those heathens, like Gandhi, may have had a better conception of what was truely noble. Anyway, I can't feel Chamberlain was being noble in tossing Czechoslovakia to the Nazi lions, after England and France had made so many promises since 1919 to defend the sovereinty of Czechoslovakia, Poland and other Eastern European democracies. Mick Maguire wrote: Chamberlain didn't have much to do with conquering India as far as I am aware, but he did allow Hitler more time and did try to play down the significance of Hitler's actions to justify not going to war. his intentions however *were* noble and the decisions were made in light of intelligence at the time. I am prod to be English, and even though I have more left wing views than any politician at that time I also feel very proud of what Neville Chamberlain did at that time, going against the advice of his cabinet and holding out to try and avoid taking his country into another war. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Neutral countries (was: Re: December PUG)
Spain also supported Hitler for a while, and then remained neutral while he ran through most of Europe, killing millions of Jews, Slavs, Gypsies, gays and leftists. If I read the news reports correctly, most of the terrorism is Spain is domestic strife, unlike the internalional terrorist organizations that killed, more that 4,000 in one day in New York. By the way, many of those killed were foreign nationals, including quite a few muslims, When you say that assisting the Israelis would not be exactly like battling terrorism, it would be more alike to helping the Nazi forces which destroyed the Jew ghetto in Warsaw in WWII., you are, in effect, incouraging the terrorists who pledge to kill Jews just because they are Jews. Carlos Royo wrote: Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Certainly, Italia was NOT netral in WWII. It was a leader of the Fascist bloc, and took aggreesive action against an African nation that could not defend itself. Many Americans died liberating Italia. How may Italians would try to assist Americans, or Bosnians, or Israelis, today? Hello Daniel: Firstly, the Italian government is actively supporting what the media call War against terrorism. They have said they're ready to send their ships and soldiers, and in fact they've already done it. Secondly, the Italian army has been present for years with the rest of NATO forces in Bosnia and Kosovo, as a part of the multinational effort to keep peace there. Thirdly, I am getting tired of those political OT messages we are seeing here in the PDML lately. And, as a sidenote, assisting the Israelis would not be exactly like battling terrorism, it would be more alike to helping the Nazi forces which destroyed the Jew ghetto in Warsaw in WWII. By the way, I am not an Italian, but I live in a country (Spain) which has lived with terrorism since the late sixties (more than one thousand people have died so far), and since then, we have received little or none international help or understanding in our fight against terrorist groups like ETA. And now, don't tell me I am anti-american. That's nonsense. But I won't eat everything the propaganda machinery wants us to swallow. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Jumbo Spotmatic
Perhaps the large one is real and the smaller one is a model. J. C. O'Connell wrote: Now all you screwmount fans can get jealous. Mines bigger than yours!!! http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/jumbospot.jpg If it was operational the film size would be 5 by 7 ! JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Neutral countries (was: Re: December PUG)
Are not the Palestinian terrorists. with Arafat's tacic blessing, killing innocents? Carlos Royo wrote: The Israeli government don't deserve any support because they are killing innocents, like they have been doing for decades. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Happy Birthday Alfred Eisenstaedy! OT
It's the birthday of photojournalist Alfred Eisenstaedt, born in Dirschau, Prussia (1898). When Eisenstaedt was 14, his uncle gave him an Eastman Kodak Number Three Folding Camera, and he began taking pictures. He photographed many famous artists and statesman and, in 1933, was sent to shoot the first meeting of Hitler and Mussolini. Two years later, Eisenstaedt fled Germany for America. In New York he was hired, along with three other photographers, by Henry Luce for something Luce called Project X. On November 23, 1936, Project X debuted as Life magazine, featuring five pages of Eisenstaedt's pictures. It was after WWII that Eisenstaedt captured his most famous image, a sailor kissing a nurse on V-J Day in Times Square. This is from The Writer's Almanac: http://almanac.mpr.org/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Happy Birthday Alfred Eisenstaedt! OT
I read it some time ago. IIRC, he described seeing the sailor kissing every girl in sight, and ran ahead of him to get a good angle on a lickly subject. When he saw him grab the nurse, he knew he probably had a keeper. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OT? At least it is about photography - hopefully that is what Pentax itself is about. Have you had the pleasure of reading The Eye of Eisenstaedt? It has some fascinatiing information about how/why he made some of his favorite images. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bastard Penguin
What's funny about it. I's a MPEG of a penguin flopping into the water, as they usually do, with a crudely drawn cartoon penguin sticking his cartoon leg out to make it almost look like he tripped the real penguin. It also very OT Mark Roberts wrote: Try this: http://www.newlabour.co.uk/Dodo.mpg It'll download the embedded MPEG to your hard drive. Then you load it up an the MPEG viewer of your choice. (It's worth the effort) -- Original Message -- Nothing came up ... Mike Johnston wrote: I don't usually pass along jokes, but I thought this was hilarious. http://www.newlabour.co.uk/penguin.htm -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bastard Penguin
Apparently it's OK if the topic is frivolous. It's only taboo here if the topic is important. Robert Harris wrote: Daniel J. Matyola wrote: It also very OT Horrors! We can't have any of that. :) Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: December 7, 2001
Yes, Frank, I'm familiar with the Halifax explosion, and I remembered that it was in WWI, but I never noticed the date. It is important for all of us, of all nations, to learn and remember our history, and to honor those who created and preserved our repective cultures. frank theriault wrote: Hi, Dan, A very moving picture, a reminder of a horrendous event in your country's history, to be sure. A lot of peope (even in Canada) don't know that December 7 is also the anniversary of another horrendous event, the Halifax Explosion. In 1917 a relief ship collided with a munitions ship in the harbour. The munitions ship caught fire, and exploded. It was (and remains) the largest man-made non-atomic explosion ever. 2000 people died immediately. About another 1200 died that night, most trapped in their houses under rubble, as the worst blizzard in decades swept through Halifax. The whole north end of the city was levelled. This, in a city of maybe 50,000 at the time. Railway lines and telegraph lines were all destroyed, effectively isolating the city. Relief supplies and medical help from other parts of the country couldn't get in for days. In fact, the first relief came by ship from Boston. To this day, as a gesture of thanks, the City of Halifax sends a huge Christmas tree (cut down from Lunenberg County, where my Mom lives, btw) to the City of Boston. It's lit in a large ceremony every year in Boston Commons. I know this is OT, but the image that you linked us to in your post reminded me of that event. Like I said, many Canadians aren't aware that such a terrible event happened in our country, let alone the rest of the world. regards, frank Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Photo of the Day (not mine): http://www.thedaily.com/overlook.html Dan -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I am not OT...I am not OT....
Unfortunately, I also remember curb feelers! . How many remember the old curb feelers people used to put on the corners of their cars in the past (some still do)? Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax semi-OT question
Chris Niesmertelny wrote: Quick informal poll. Potion of choice? After a long day of shooting with Pentax cameras, I like Dalmore single malt scotch, with a little water, no ice. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Australians
The last statistics I sa, while looking throught the viewfinder of my Pentax, of course, had the Czechs number one, followed by Aussies and Canadians. Paul Jones wrote: I think Germany beats us. Regards Paul, who doesn't drink beer Melbourne, Aus . - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Australians I've heard that Australia has the largest per capita beer consumption on Earth. If so, they're my kind of folks. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually I admire and respect them also. I personally think Paul was a stinker for that but I happen to like Steve Irwin. Anybody the English look down on is my type of people. Met several of them during Nam. Only problem was I wasn't a big drinker and they were. Kent Gittings - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Australians
The last statistics I saw, while looking throught the viewfinder of my Pentax, of course, had the Czechs number one, followed by Aussies and Canadians. Paul Jones wrote: I think Germany beats us. Regards Paul, who doesn't drink beer Melbourne, Aus . - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Australians I've heard that Australia has the largest per capita beer consumption on Earth. If so, they're my kind of folks. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually I admire and respect them also. I personally think Paul was a stinker for that but I happen to like Steve Irwin. Anybody the English look down on is my type of people. Met several of them during Nam. Only problem was I wasn't a big drinker and they were. Kent Gittings - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Leonids
Today's Astronomy picture of the Day has a stunning photo of the Leonids: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html Dan -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: opinions
Courtesy of the Writer's Almanac: It's the birthday of the German poet (Christian Johann) Heinrich Heine, born in Düsseldorf, Prussia (1797). He is most famous for his poems, such as The Lorelei, which were set to music by Schubert, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Brahms, and other German Romantic composers. He wrote: People in those old times had convictions; we moderns have only opinions. And it needs more than a mere opinion to erect a Gothic cathedral. We need fewer opinions and more good photography. Dan -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Packing film in clear bags for hand searching at airports
I know you are right about lead bags in checked luggage, but how about in carry-ons? When I have done this, rarely and mostly years ago, the security person sees the bag pn the screen and usually then hand inspects it, whereas when I've asked for hand inpection I've had a bigger hassle. Aaron Reynolds wrote: I am not sure it is sucha good idea. First of all NEVER use it in a checked bag. They will just boost the x-ray. Second I am not sure it works 100% but I might be wrong on this. Thirdly they might be able to boost the xray on the carry on thingies. Levi is right -- DO NOT PUT A LEAD BAG IN YOUR CHECKED LUGGAGE. DO NOT PUT ANY FILM AT ALL IN YOUR CHECKED LUGGAGE, PACKED IN ANY WAY. The new automated scanners have an automated recognition system where they fire X-rays at your checked bags and determine what objects are inside. If an object seems suspicious to the scanner, it keeps firing X-rays at it until it determines the content. Unfortunately, metal film cassettes are suspicious, lead bags are more suspicious, and by the time the scanner determines oh, those are just rolls of film, your film is all fogged. Once more for the cheap seats: NEVER PUT FILM IN YOUR CHECKED LUGGAGE. EVER. NO MATTER WHAT. We do sell lead bags over here, because people are stupid and want them anyways. Seriously. Everyone who buys one has heard this speech from me, and every single person who has bought one has dismissed me as paranoid. These scanners, by the way, are not at every airport, but the FAA is not letting us in on which airports have them, for obvious security reasons. If I'm remembering right, the problem came to light when a BBC film crew returned from some far-flung photographic expedition and found all of their footage had been fogged by Heathrow. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Seasons
Youngster! Bob Rapp wrote: Hi all, The seasons are upon us again. As I have been through 58, I can appreciate all that each new year brings. It is a time for us to reflect on where we have been and where we would like to go. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting
I have also greatly enjoyed this thread Peter Popp wrote: This will be my last post on this subject, but let me say I have really enjoyed it, as far as off-topic threads go.
Re: Digital vs Film observation
We're hanging on to them! I have four, two of which are still is good operating condition. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax made several MILLION screw-mount cameras. Where are they all?
DSLR Enablement needed.
I visited my favorite local camera store here in Central New Jersey, USA, last night. They finally received the long-pomised *istd, and called me to let me know. I really liked the feel and operation of the camera. The price, $1375 for body only, didn't seem out of line. Still I hesitate. Will the price come down in the near future? Will Pentax come out with an upgraded version soon, as they did to me with the Optio S earlier this year? Is it really worth all that money? Will I need to buy a new lens right away to take full advantage of its capabilities? Decision, decisions.
Re: DSLR Enablement needed.
I bought it last week for $1375. At that price, he wouldn't take a credit card, only a check. Of course, he also sold me a 512 MB compact flash card. ! I didn't have much time to check it out yet, but I grade it a an A for ease of use. For this test, I ignored the manuals, and just opened up the camera, inserted the batteries and the memory card, pointed it at something (in this case a maple tree with orange leaves against a blue sky), turned the camera on, point, shot, took out the memory card, stuck it in the printer, hit the print button, and waited to see what came out. The results were quite nice, IMO. Now I have to see what it can do when I learn how to use the camera and then run the shots through photoshop. Dan graywolf wrote: Better buy it before he comes to his senses. He is not making 10%, he probably is not making cost (dealer-price + overhead) at that price. Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I questioned it as well. He claims that's 10% over his cost, which he will give to his best customer. . . arnie wrote: $1375?? where is this? at that price i would run, not walk, to nj. arnie - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:24 AM Subject: DSLR Enablement needed. I visited my favorite local camera store here in Central New Jersey, USA, last night. They finally received the long-pomised *istd, and called me to let me know. I really liked the feel and operation of the camera. The price, $1375 for body only, didn't seem out of line. Still I hesitate. Will the price come down in the near future? Will Pentax come out with an upgraded version soon, as they did to me with the Optio S earlier this year? Is it really worth all that money? Will I need to buy a new lens right away to take full advantage of its capabilities? Decision, decisions.
Re: December PUG Theme
Clouds. zoomshot wrote: Gone from the schedule page ( http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html ), what is it?
Re: OT:Weird place names-was: GFM Attendees (updated)
Same pronounciation in Berlin, New Hampshire. Christian Skofteland wrote: much like Berlin, Maryland (pronounced BUR-lin)
Re: OT - Decerebrate Turnip
Oh yes, that stuff the Brits call humour. Please, spare us. Do you think we should introduce our former colonial brethren on the list to Father Ted? It would establish feck in it's rightful place in the pantheon of useful words. Easy! http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~cbaker01/frted/JACK.HTM Warning - Irish content :-)
OT: Vanished Monuments of St. Petersburg
This is a site with as few vintage photographs of St. Petersburg churches destroyed by Stalin, if anyone is interested. Dan
Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures)
Actually, I think the bull run is more human than the bull fights themselves. At least in the run, the bulls seem to gore or trample more humans than in the corrida. Dan William Robb wrote: I am wondering what is causing your misgivings about the series of pictures? For myself, they leave me pretty flat, but that is mostly because of the inhumane treatment of the animals. The Pamplona bull run is barbarism at its worst. William Robb -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: JCO - What time is it
That's why the 24 hour system makes sense. J. C. O'Connell wrote: -Original Message- From: Bob Rapp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: JCO - What time is it - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, theres officially no such thing as 12:00 am ( or 12:00pm ). The correct nomenclature is 12:00 midnight and 12:00 noon. One of my little pet peeves One that is confusing! If it is am, it is midnight! I used to be like you, but I just got old. Still do a 27 - 36 hourer from time to time. Bob Actually 12:00am and 12:00pm is whats confusing, there was a actually court case over it years ago. 12:00:00 is the switchover time from am to pm and pm to am. It is neither am or pm at the switchover time, just 12:00:00 noon and 12:00:00 midnight, Noon and midnight is always clear which transition is occuring JCO -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: Really OT: Ireland
Don't miss the Cliff of Moher and the Dingle Peninsula. I thought that the highly-touted Ring of Kerry was a disappointment, but it should be better in Nov, when it won't be very crowded. We especially enjoyed, Newgrange, and hour north of Dublin, which is a passage tomb probably older than Stonehenge. Trinity College and Killmainam Gaol are very interesting in Dublin. Two cities that are very under-rated are Cobh (Cove), near Cork, with a beautiful harbor area and the emmigration museum, and Tralee, which has the national folk dance center and good traditional pubs. I found the pubs in Dublin to be mostly smoky rock bars. Try to stay in small BBs, especially in the country. The folks who run these places are usually great. Steve Desjardins wrote: My family and I are doing a 6 day trip to Ireland in late November. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: Really OT: Ireland
I don't recall the scene in the movie, but is is a great place for photographs, although it has been a bit overexposed in postcards, travel brochures, and books on Ireland. Cobh is a great place for photographs, if you have the proper Pentax equipment. 8). There are colorful buildings around the docks, a church on a cliff above the bay, ships, and interesting museums. Dan Scott wrote: Is the Cliff of Moher the location of The Cliffs of Insanity featuring in the movie, The Pincess Bride? If it is, that would afford some excellent photo opportunities. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: Favourite Photo's
1. Joe Rosenthal' s photo of the second flag raising at Iwo Jima. 2. Edgerton's shot of a bullet passing through an apple. 3. The NASA shot of Earthrise taken from the moon. Feroze Kistan wrote: Hi All, Just for interest sake, as I'm new to this list, and probally will help me to understand each ones quirks a bit better: Ok, I'm gonna steal somebody's idea here. Its 2005, world warIII has been declared, everbody has nuke's, you are designated to create a time capsuble to be placed in a bunker for all prosperity. One of the items you have to choose is 3 photographs of the 20th century that you would consider unreplaceable. It need not be your favourite photograper, but the one you felt had the most impact, let me start: 1] The picture of a suspected VC spy being executed by the police during The Vietnam War 2] The picture of a common pepper by Ansel Adams 3] High heeled shoes in knickers by David Bailey. You can send them to me direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED] TIA Feroze -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: September PUG Favourite
I agree that Poe's chair is a great photograph. My personal favorite, however, is John Coyle's Refracted, not Reflected. It has a overall simplicity blended with sublte complexity in the details. The concept is powerful, and the esxecution, IMHO, flawless. I even love the title, both for the James Bond reference and for the purported evasion of the theme of the month. frank theriault wrote: Hi, As always, I had the best of intentions at the beginning of the month. I wanted to, right off the mark, indicate my favourite, then, later in the month, at my leisure, mention a few honourable mentions. Of course, the road to hell... Well, looks like I'll only have time to mention my absolute favourite. I won't say that I may not come back in the next week with a few more, but I at least want to give a number one prize, which is (drum roll, please): Chair by Bob Poe It hit me as I was going through the thumbnails, and the more I looked at the larger image, the more I loved it. It's so simple, I thought, but then why the hell can't I do stuff like this? I think it's this deceptive simplicity that got me. What it really is, though, is amazing composition. I'm a sucker for taking a different look at everyday objects, and what could be more ordinary and mundane than this well used chair? But, the beautiful angles of the chair itself, the lovely soft shadow in the background, the shadows off the right leg, all come together to form an almost abstract form. And, it could only work in bw (and HP5+ is a perfect choice here, imho). As always, my words fail to express my feelings here, but suffice to say that I'm blown away by this one, Bob. Not to mention that it's up against some pretty stiff competition (as always). thanks, Bob, frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600 and Bye bye
If you object to that language, as you should, why repeat it in your message? Dr E D F Williams wrote: Can't handle 300+ messages a day; don't wish to handle messages where people call each other 'Pencil dick' or 'Shit for Brains' and write 'fuck you!'; or where they insult beloved public figures and deride the values of others. Can't handle this puerile shit - so bye-bye for a while. D Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:33 PM Subject: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600 In a message dated 9/25/02 1:06:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *sigh* Read my other post. IMHO why are you asking me this anyhow? Is it constructive? Did I make an error in voicing my own IMHO personal opinion? Will a good answer satisfy you? You are also more than bordering on insult by saying The only thing f**king you over is you mind How ELSE do I read that? Are you friends with Bruce? Give a polite and positive critisism or opinion or shut the fuck up pencil-dick. Fuck you, Brad Dobo! I am personally insulted by YOUR language on the PDML. GROW UP. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600 and Bye bye
The British royals. Brad Dobo wrote: Since I didn't do most of those things (but I did some, don't get me wrong) I'll assume the good doctor is referring to posts that I guess I haven't read. I'm curious now...who are the insulted beloved public figures?
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600 and Bye bye
Dr. Williams: Call me an idiot if you like, I've been called worse. My only point was that most of us would like to see an end to the long personal attacks that some posters hurl at others, whether the language is crude or not. To quote these attacks in full in our replies only perpetuates and encourages this unwanted behavior. Dan Dr E D F Williams wrote: Who said I object to bad language as such? That idiot Maytola divines from my messages that I am a hypocritical prude who complains about bad language and then uses it himself.
Re: Cotty's September PUG review
I was not conscious of the phallic nature of the obelisk as I was taking the picture, but it is there, of course. On the other hand, as Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Anyone who has visited Vigeland Park knows that Vigelan was not at all shy about frankly portraying what Monty Python would refer to as the naughty bits of human anatomy. Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty wrote: Vigeland Park Dan Matyola Interesting image. Lots of ways to read this, I find a strong male presence, reinforced by the phallic structure behind. Just what I was thinking too but didn't like to say so. (*blush*) --- Wendy Beard Mosaid Technologies Inc -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
Some people are Cognoscenti, but far more are Cognisnotty. I love that phrase! Fred wrote: But the congnisoti, (I'm not even sure that I spelled that correctly and the damned spell checker is no help), will know who you are. Cognisnotty is the correct spelling, I believe. Cognoscenti, maybe? Fred -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
October PUG
Well, I know which entry is my favorite from the October PUG! Kihei Beach, by Bruce Dayton, is just what I needed to see on a very frustrating afternoon. Besides being a very good photograph, it depicts my favorite place in the entire world, and the spot I'd most like to be right now. My wife and I have gone to Maui at least every other year for the past two decades, and we always stay in Kihei, Near the Kamaole Beach Parks. In fact, for several years we owed a condo in Kamaole Sands, across the street from the beach. We are going there again in February, but that seems very far off indeed. Thanks, Bruce, for making my day! Dan
Re: Pentax at Photokina
It doesn't sound very plausible. Pål Jensen wrote: Some interesting(?) tidbits from the Pentax universe Apparently, this years Pentax photokina delegation was among the largest ever including the boss and heaps of engineers. Weird, considering they had nothing to show. However, it turns out that they indeed showed a LOT but behind closed doors locked in a large safe (no I'm not making this up; I have this from a guy who was part of the Pentax delegation but not allowed into the room! Only the utter hot-shots were allowed apparently). I have no idea about the contents of this safe is but it's believed it's not the digital K-mount slr. After all, that one is not that secret (probably already on the distributors order list). It was said that Photokina was less seen as a news fair nowadays and more of a trade show (they are apparently thinking of arranging it every three year instead of every two). Some informed observes suggest that Pentax will want to celebrate their corporate name change (and 50th year of slr production) with product releases (they wil get more attention this way). The speculaters can guess whats in that safe. The pessimist will insist it's the next $100 PS while the (incurable) optimist will believe it is new KAF3 lenses with USM and IS plus matching cameras.
Re: anyone care to bid? :)
None of us can bid: there are no Pentax or Asahi cameras memtioned in the description of the camera collection.. Otherwise
Re: New Pentax Product's/Photokina
I don't doubt that they will come out with these products eventually, it's just that they will miss the moment when they would be exciting, state-of-the-art innovations, and wait until they are nice, but no better than a lot of products the competition came out with 2 years earlier. tom wrote: BTW, though I'll be the first to admit Pentax is molasses-slow in releasing new products, we've seen missives like yours before the MZ-S was released, before the 67II was released, before the 645n was released, etc. Just because they didn't release anything at Photokina doesn't mean they've folded up the tent and gone home.
Re: OT: World's funniest joke (NOT) but a photo related one..
I prefer the golfer's version of this joke: This duffer is consoling his friend on the recent loss of his wife. How did it happen? We were playing golf together, like we do every Tuesday, and she had a heart attack right on the fourth green. Gosh, that must have been really terrible. Sure was! All afternoon it was: hit the ball, drag Ethyl, hit the ball, drag Ethyl
Re: dslr
Past performance is not a guarantte of future performance, but it certainly is an indication of what to expect in the future, cya statements to the contrary notwithstanding. Kenneth Waller wrote: As most stock brochures state...Past history is no in indication of future performance. Ken Waller - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 12:11 PM Subject: Re: dslr Very Unlikely, given past performance tom wrote: Pentax will announce and release a DSLR in the spring. It will be comparable to the D60. tv -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: Dumb computer question
FWIW, Steve Wozniak once said that he never turned off any of his computers, except for the monitors. Dan Brad Dobo wrote: As a real computer and internet junkie, and part-time tech, I *always* leave my stuff on. On thing is I turn of monitors at night. Running XP Pro on 2 computers, on with Win98SE, one Windows 2000 Corporate Server, and one laptop networked running NT4. I've never had anything fail on me, I keep strict maintenance, and consider the chance of a power surge to be an overrated experience and rare. I rarely have to reboot ANY of the machines. On UPS, they are an invaluable tool for those occasional brown-outs.
Aurora Photos
Nice example of an Aurora photographn on the Astronomy Picture of the Day for Oct 15: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html Dan
Re: Split the list or calm down ?
Some people crave attention. If you respond to their untoward remarks, it just encourages them. I find that if I ignore people who are rude or obscene, they get tired of talking to themselves and stop a lot sooner than if I object or try to correct their behavior. Dan
Re: PDML Members Portrait List
Thanks, Paul, for doing a great job on the portrait gallery. I was wondering what Steven Spielberg was doing there, but apparently that's just his double, John Coyle. Wendy, I love your dog! Is it a husky or a malamute? I've raised Alaskan Malamutes for thirty years, and really love the beasts. Did anyone notice that I managed to slip in more image of me then of anyone else? I used the huge kaleidoscope at the Exploratorium in San Francisco. (You still can't see my face, however. On this list, you have to be careful.g Dan
Re: List news (don't read this, Mr Brewer)
I'll chip in. mike wilson wrote: Oh well, I did warn you. Any of our members in the good old US of A wish to co-ordinate donations for a present for our list guy? I think on (at least) this occasion he has done enough for us to put our hands in our pockets. mike -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: Pentax annonces digital SLR
If I read the translated press release correctly, pentax plans to reduce the number of film SLR models sold by more than half, and to cut in half the number of PS and MF models they sell. They only sell to MF cameras, however, the 645nII and the 67II. Does this mean that they will eliminate one of the two current MF lines? I certainly hope not! Dan
Re: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff
As a trial attorney, I strongly disagree with your statement of the law. Chaso DeChaso wrote: I'm not arguing about the sworn statement part. When accompanied by a sworn statement, it possesses different value in courts is what I am saying. I'm not saying one is inadmissable, or one is always better, or one cannot be used without sworn statement, or ... ... ... I'm just saying they are viewed differently. Read carefully.
Re: OT Non Pentax Rap Music Nonesense (was: Re: Vs: Vs: Re[3]: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff)
Nice Comment. Chaso DeChaso wrote: Maybe kill yourself and have someone take shots of it and post them to the internet?
Re: law and image
Please cite your authority for the proposition that digital photographs are treated differently under the law than traditional photographs. Chaso DeChaso wrote: This topic is being debated tremendously in legal circles with nothing approaching uncontested or universal agreement on the matter...[snip] Even if you love digital images, at least understand that their authenticity is a source of controversy particularly in academic legal circles, and that therefore people must view them differently...people meaning judges, lawyers, juries, etc.
Re: OT Non Pentax Rap Music Nonesense (was: Re: Vs: Vs: Re[3]: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff)
It's not the sort of thing one generally makes jokes about, at least not on a civilized forum like this one. Chaso DeChaso wrote: You know of course that I was serious, right? No one could be joking about anything unless there is a smiley face at the end of the statement, right? - it's impossible. Because if you are joking, then there must be a smiley face, otherwise there is no possibility of a joke and the statement should be read in absolutele seriousness.
Re: law and image
Your reply makes no sense to me at all. Chaso DeChaso wrote: Can I cite coursework? The problem is I don't know a reference where the issue has been settled - and herein lies the non-existence of a standard.
Re: OT Non Pentax Rap Music Nonesense (was: Re: Vs: Vs: Re[3]: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff)
Too rude. Chaso DeChaso wrote: Gotcha, no death jokes. Too scary.
Re: law and image
You are essentially correct. The photographer -- or someone else who observed the scene being depicted -- must testify that the image accurately reflects the conditions in issue at the time in question. No one every inquires as to whether the image was originated by traditional photography or digital photography. That is besides the point, as long as a proper legal foundation has been laid by competent tesitmony that the image is an accurate depiction of what it purports to illustrate. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been my experience, as an insurance investigator, that the standard has become whether or not the photographer can testify as to the authenticity of the photograph. That the substance of the photograph has not been compromised, They, the judges and atorney's, do not appear to be concerned with the details, color, hue, etc., but rather the subject matter at hand. So long as the original is available, duplicates can be enhanced, enlarged, sharpened or otherwise manipulated, so long as the subject remains constant. Hope this helps a little.
Re: Med format exhibit in Texas - but it ain't realityanymore than digital.
Very good point! Steve Desjardins wrote: By the way, I'm enjoying this exchnage. Don't let a forceful argument be mistaken for anger ;-) There's been too much of that lately on the list.
Re: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff
Many great philosophers have made that precise point. Chaso DeChaso wrote: All of these are excellent points (and beautifully stated, by the way) but most can also be applied to seeing - to how our eyes receive, alter, etc. what is around us. Consequently, if such as the below are the key points of argument, then one must also begin an argument that what you see can never be believed at all and has always been fiction.
