Re: My New Photo Gig

2015-07-22 Thread Norman Baugher
Is there a big difference between the K-5 and K-3 other than resolution. There 
is definitely a big difference in price…

 On Jul 21, 2015, at 4:26 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you're sticking with Pentax there's only one.  The K-3 or it's younger 
 brother he K-3II which are probably functionally identical for your purposes. 
  The K-3 can probably be had for a fairly sizable discount now and a somewhat 
 bigger one in three to six months, based on passed history.
 
 On 7/21/2015 4:13 PM, Norman Baugher wrote:
 Of course I’m the Treasurer, I’m the only non-surfer in the group. Need I 
 say more. (plus I’m great at managing other people’s money).
 Different body with higher density sensors, never thought of that one. Then 
 again, I’m not a digital guy. Suggestions?
 
 On Jul 21, 2015, at 3:55 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
 Hell's teeth, Norm!  They made you _Treasurer_?  I know Californians
 have a reputation for gullibility but that is a whole different
 planet.  Man.
 
 Depending on your budget 8 -) you may find better value for money in
 either an older FA lens or a newer body with a higher density sensor,
 thereby allowing more of a crop.
 
 On 21 July 2015 at 18:25, Norman Baugher
 nbaug...@baugherphotography.com wrote:
 Hey guys, I’ve been lurking for a while, so this is my first post in some 
 time. I’ve been working with a group of surfers in California who work 
 with various charities. We surf and film events for special needs kids. 
 Being involved, I turned the group into 501 (c)(3). I’m the Chairman of 
 the Board, but want to get into the photo side as well. We have a team of 
 photographers, but I of course want to shoot events as well, can’t help 
 it. I’ve got a K-7 and a 55-300/4.5 WR but judging from the last event, I 
 think I might need something longer. Check out the website and have a look 
 at some of the images - suggestions on something longer? 
 www.malibuunderdogs.org
 Norm
 
 


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Re: My New Photo Gig

2015-07-22 Thread Norman Baugher
To be expected, only from you Frank…  :-)

 On Jul 21, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 ... I’m great at managing other people’s money.
 
 MARK!!
 
 Cheers,
 
 frank
 
 On 21 July, 2015 4:13:10 PM EDT, Norman Baugher 
 nbaug...@baugherphotography.com wrote:
 Of course I’m the Treasurer, I’m the only non-surfer in the group. Need
 I say more. (plus I’m great at managing other people’s money).
 Different body with higher density sensors, never thought of that one.
 Then again, I’m not a digital guy. Suggestions?
 
 On Jul 21, 2015, at 3:55 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com
 wrote:
 
 Hell's teeth, Norm!  They made you _Treasurer_?  I know Californians
 have a reputation for gullibility but that is a whole different
 planet.  Man.
 
 Depending on your budget 8 -) you may find better value for money in
 either an older FA lens or a newer body with a higher density sensor,
 thereby allowing more of a crop.
 
 On 21 July 2015 at 18:25, Norman Baugher
 nbaug...@baugherphotography.com wrote:
 Hey guys, I’ve been lurking for a while, so this is my first post in
 some time. I’ve been working with a group of surfers in California who
 work with various charities. We surf and film events for special needs
 kids. Being involved, I turned the group into 501 (c)(3). I’m the
 Chairman of the Board, but want to get into the photo side as well. We
 have a team of photographers, but I of course want to shoot events as
 well, can’t help it. I’ve got a K-7 and a 55-300/4.5 WR but judging
 from the last event, I think I might need something longer. Check out
 the website and have a look at some of the images - suggestions on
 something longer? www.malibuunderdogs.org
 Norm
 


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My New Photo Gig

2015-07-21 Thread Norman Baugher
Hey guys, I’ve been lurking for a while, so this is my first post in some time. 
I’ve been working with a group of surfers in California who work with various 
charities. We surf and film events for special needs kids. Being involved, I 
turned the group into 501 (c)(3). I’m the Chairman of the Board, but want to 
get into the photo side as well. We have a team of photographers, but I of 
course want to shoot events as well, can’t help it. I’ve got a K-7 and a 
55-300/4.5 WR but judging from the last event, I think I might need something 
longer. Check out the website and have a look at some of the images - 
suggestions on something longer? www.malibuunderdogs.org
Norm
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Re: My New Photo Gig

2015-07-21 Thread Norman Baugher
The thumbs are just to give you an idea, they’re 100+ yds down to 30 yds maybe. 
8x10 prints?

 On Jul 21, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Difficult to determine the resolution level from such small thumbnails. 
 The demands of their intended us only you know.
 They seem adequate if this presentation material is the standard.
 
 Jack
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Norman Baugher nbaug...@baugherphotography.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:25:45 AM
 Subject: My New Photo Gig
 
 Hey guys, I’ve been lurking for a while, so this is my first post in some 
 time. I’ve been working with a group of surfers in California who work with 
 various charities. We surf and film events for special needs kids. Being 
 involved, I turned the group into 501 (c)(3). I’m the Chairman of the Board, 
 but want to get into the photo side as well. We have a team of photographers, 
 but I of course want to shoot events as well, can’t help it. I’ve got a K-7 
 and a 55-300/4.5 WR but judging from the last event, I think I might need 
 something longer. Check out the website and have a look at some of the images 
 - suggestions on something longer? www.malibuunderdogs.org
 Norm


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Re: My New Photo Gig

2015-07-21 Thread Norman Baugher
Nope, still in Manhattan, charity has no bounds :)
(but I do go to Cali for this stuff, FRICKIN’ AWESOME DUDE! I’M STOKED!)

 On Jul 21, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ask Cotty. I believe you have his cell #...
 
 Norm, you old bastard! Why am I not surprised you surfaced in Cali?  LOL!
 
 Cheers,
 
 frank
 
 On 21 July, 2015 1:25:45 PM EDT, Norman Baugher 
 nbaug...@baugherphotography.com wrote:
 Hey guys, I’ve been lurking for a while, so this is my first post in
 some time. I’ve been working with a group of surfers in California who
 work with various charities. We surf and film events for special needs
 kids. Being involved, I turned the group into 501 (c)(3). I’m the
 Chairman of the Board, but want to get into the photo side as well. We
 have a team of photographers, but I of course want to shoot events as
 well, can’t help it. I’ve got a K-7 and a 55-300/4.5 WR but judging
 from the last event, I think I might need something longer. Check out
 the website and have a look at some of the images - suggestions on
 something longer? www.malibuunderdogs.org
 Norm
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Re: My New Photo Gig

2015-07-21 Thread Norman Baugher
Of course I’m the Treasurer, I’m the only non-surfer in the group. Need I say 
more. (plus I’m great at managing other people’s money).
Different body with higher density sensors, never thought of that one. Then 
again, I’m not a digital guy. Suggestions?

 On Jul 21, 2015, at 3:55 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
 Hell's teeth, Norm!  They made you _Treasurer_?  I know Californians
 have a reputation for gullibility but that is a whole different
 planet.  Man.
 
 Depending on your budget 8 -) you may find better value for money in
 either an older FA lens or a newer body with a higher density sensor,
 thereby allowing more of a crop.
 
 On 21 July 2015 at 18:25, Norman Baugher
 nbaug...@baugherphotography.com wrote:
 Hey guys, I’ve been lurking for a while, so this is my first post in some 
 time. I’ve been working with a group of surfers in California who work with 
 various charities. We surf and film events for special needs kids. Being 
 involved, I turned the group into 501 (c)(3). I’m the Chairman of the Board, 
 but want to get into the photo side as well. We have a team of 
 photographers, but I of course want to shoot events as well, can’t help it. 
 I’ve got a K-7 and a 55-300/4.5 WR but judging from the last event, I think 
 I might need something longer. Check out the website and have a look at some 
 of the images - suggestions on something longer? www.malibuunderdogs.org
 Norm


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Re: Test

2013-08-03 Thread Norman Baugher
Not getting your message at all…
Norm

On Aug 2, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:

 Having issues sending out so checkin to see if it finally workin on the list.
 -- 
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 Photo Captures by Jeffery http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com
 
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PDML Photo Annual

2013-07-30 Thread Norman Baugher
Just got mine today (granted I've been out of town for a month), just want to 
say that I'm humbled to have a page among a very impressive collection of 
photographs/photographers. Some incredible images, almost as good as the 
quotations...
Norm
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Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-03 Thread Norman Baugher
How about when they ask you what type of credit card you are using when in 
actuality, the first digit of the number denotes the card type?
Norm

On Mar 2, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 I have complaints about two things that are unrelated except that
 there's nowhere useful to complain about them, so I'll unload here.
 
 1. Why do forms that expect a credit card number reject spaces?
 When you enter a credit card number in an online ordering form, it
 would make sense to enter the groups of digits with spaces between so
 you can easily see if you got them right. But no! As soon as you hit
 Next, the form clears and you get an error message about an invalid
 card number. Developers: how fucking hard is it to ignore the spaces!!
 Assholes.
 


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Re: OT but not OT

2013-02-27 Thread Norman Baugher
Reminds me of that old line for telemarketers I'm very interested, what's your 
home number and I'll call you back.
Norm

On Feb 26, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Every once in a while Facebook proves its worth. Just saw this post
 from a friend in the music business. It's about music and food but I
 suspect freelance photographers will get the point, too:
 
 Craigslist Ad:
 We are a small  casual restaurant downtown and we are looking 
 for solo musicians to play in our restaurant to promote their work 
 and sell their CD. This is not a daily job, but only for special 
 events which will eventually turn into a nightly event if we get
 positive response. More Jazz, Rock  smooth type music, around the 
 world and mixed cultural music. Are you interested to promote your 
 work? Please reply back ASAP.
 
 Musician's Reply:
 Happy new year! I am a musician with a big house 
 looking for a restaurateur to come to my house to promote his/her 
 restaurant by making dinner for me and my friends. This is not a 
 daily job, but only for special events which will eventually turn 
 into a nightly event if we get positive response. More fine dining 
  exotic meals and mixed ethnic fusion cuisine. Are you interested 
 to promote your restaurant? Please reply back ASAP.
 
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
 www.robertstech.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Gianfranco

2013-01-04 Thread Norman Baugher
Just a note to the list members. Gianfranco is a very cool guy. He invited my 
wife and I to join his photography class for the day in Rome (Doisneau 
exhibit). Anyone going to Naples should bang on his door :)
Norm
(He did call us a taxi after lunch, maybe he was telling us something.)
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Grandfather wrap-up

2008-06-02 Thread Norman Baugher
Nice Sh#*!y picture of me Cory, maybe that's why I only show up at night...
Norm

From: Cory Waters 
 I've made a web log post with my too-long narrative and some pictures 
 from this weekend. 
 http://grandfather08.blogspot.com/
 I spent too much time doing that this morning.  I really need to go 
 empty out the camper and the truck.  But there's lunch to be had too...
 
 I had a great time as always.  Missed you guys who usually come.  Still 
 scratching skeeter bites...


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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-29 Thread Norman Baugher
I'm not sure if that's a compliment Bill :)
Norm

From: frank theriault 
Subject: Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!



  ps:  seriously, Norm's a great guy who posts about 4 times a year,
  shoots with a great honking beautiful brassing-at-the-corners 6x7,
  flies into GFM at about 10 pm each Saturday night, then flies out
  about 9am Sunday - usually from Brazil or New York or someplace
  exotic.

Norm is the kind of person we prairie people refer to as The Finest Kind.

William Robb

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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-29 Thread Norman Baugher
Nice butt kissing Davie, we'll miss you this year...
Norm

David J Brooks wrote:


 kiss buttNorm, as Frank said in his email, is a great guy, and the
 camp fire is a better place the night he shows up./kiss butt


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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-29 Thread Norman Baugher
BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

William Robb wrote:
 Norm,

 I believe I already told you what to do in somewhat more explicit
 terms when you e-mailed me off-list yesterday, asking for my number...

 your buddy,
 frank, from whom you'll NEVER get my number

 Norm, you can get Frank at this number most evenings
  (416)857-1483

 Your friend,
 WW


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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread Norman Baugher
Frank, are you listed in Toronto?
Norm

-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 28, 2008 11:30 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Christine  Aguila
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Like Jack, I'm all caught up in the excitement about the PDML trip to GFM,
 so I'd like to wish all those in route safe travels, a great time, and happy
 shooting.  Looking forward to the stories and photos. Maybe next year I'll
 join you all.

 Drink a beer for me--I tend to like the darker ales! ;-)

 Big cheers, Christine

BIG HINT:  If Norm Baugher asks for your phone number, don't give it.

You've been warned.

Ask Cotty if you don't believe me!

cheers,
frank

ps:  safe travels to all (even Scott who was mean to me yesterday)  ;-)

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Re: GFM roll call

2008-05-27 Thread Norman Baugher
I think that's it, maybe we'll get a few surprises, but hey it'll still be fun. 
I'm going to call Cesar (Gateboy) and see if he's showing up...

-Original Message-
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 27, 2008 1:41 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GFM roll call

I think this is it, though I hope I'm wrong.  Small group this year.

Mark Roberts
Me
Cory
List guy
Patti (One of Mark's previous students)
Norm! (and SO)
Cotty
Nico

Assumptions (haven't heard from them):
Tom Reese and Susan
Nico

Looks like the Canadian Contingent bailed out.  Must be some kinda 
protest.  Or maybe they're leaning so far to the left that they couldn't 
get themselves straight enough to clear the border.  vbg, please don't 
hurt me

Is that it?  Anyone else?

-- 
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http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/

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Re: OT: Ripping Yarn

2007-08-11 Thread Norman Baugher
Read that, thought it was great...
Norm

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 11, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rather a jolly story here which proves that the old-fashioned spirit
 of exploration lives on:

 Colonel Fawcett was a legendary explorer of the early 20th century who
 went missing in South America, inspiring many ill-fated expeditions to
 go up the Orinoco in search of him. Colonel Blashford-Snell (a real
 person, apparently) has vindicated Fawcett's claims about the
 Double-Nosed Andean Tiger Hound:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6940289.stm

 The best bit of the story is at the end: The explorers also carried
 with them a church organ from Dorset as a gift to local Bolivians .

 http://www.dailyllama.com/news/2004/images/terry_jones_portrait.jpg

 Even Michael (Across the Andes by Frog) Palin couldn't make this
 sort of thing up.

 A related excerpt from the Python Book of Life Imitating Art:

 Hitler: My dog has no nose.
 Crowd: How does it smell?
 Hitler: Awful!

 Bob


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Re: LAST CALL! London PDML This Sunday

2006-10-13 Thread Norman Baugher
I'm jealous.
Norm

From: Cotty 
 PDML get together in London (UK) THIS SUNDAY October 15th.
 
 Time: 2 - 2.15pm
 Location: Outside Camden Town Tube Station
 Beacon: Cotty - 6'5 with blue cap on
 Occasion: Godfrey's UK Tour
 Highlights: Camden Market, locks and canal, hustle and bustle
 


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Re: Way OT

2006-10-10 Thread Norman Baugher
Was it this concert, as reported in The Onion?
September 6, 2006 
Rolling Stones Kick Off 'Sing Our Songs For Us' Tour 
Norm
- Original Message - 
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discuss PDML@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:25 AM
Subject: Way OT


 For those of you in the big cities, this is probably a small thing, but 
 Regina managed to persuade the Rolling Stones to play two shows here, 
 one on Friday, the other last night.
 I went to last nights show.
 Heck of a good concert.
 No, I didn't try to smuggle a camera in.
 
 William Robb 
 
 
 
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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread Norman Baugher
Canada.

From: Boris Liberman  
 People often say lower 48 or low 48 in regard to some of the United 
 States. What are the states that do not belong to low 48?
 


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Re: Now Virgin Bans Some Laptop Batteries!

2006-09-22 Thread Norman Baugher
Unfortunately, not in the US.
Norm

From: graywolf 

I believe it is the citizenship of the parents that counts, not where 
 you were hatched...



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Re: PDML in LA? (take 2)

2006-09-20 Thread Norman Baugher
Try shooting out your hotel window then G...
Norm

From: Rick Womer  
 I won't have a car.




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Re: Now Virgin Bans Some Laptop Batteries!

2006-09-20 Thread Norman Baugher
You're that old Mark?
Norm

From: Mark Roberts 
 Oh yes! I probably represent the last generation ever to emigrate to
 America by ship. We came over on the Queen Elizabeth I in 1967. It
 was, I believe, the next-to-last crossing the ship made before Cunard
 Lines ended transatlantic service. Quite an adventure for a
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Re: advice regarding lens

2006-09-13 Thread Norman Baugher
YES.

- Original Message - 
From: Subash Jeyan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:25 AM
Subject: advice regarding lens


 hi,
 
 need a little bit of advice regarding a lens. just came across what
 looks like a pentax k/f1.2. it just says SMC Pentax 1:1.2 50 mm and
 from the very helpful bojidar dimitrov's k-mount lenses page, it seems
 to be the k/f1.2.
 
 the lens is in very good condition, almost mint, and here in india, it
 is being offered for the equivalent of US$150. is that a fair price
 for the lens? in other words, should i be buying it at that price?
 
 btw, i am getting myself a k100d next month :)
 
 thanks in advance for your advice.
 
 regards, subash
 
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Re: advice regarding lens

2006-09-13 Thread Norman Baugher
Yeah, but stop it down to f/1.4 and it's just as sharp as any 50/f1.4.
Norm

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 
 From what I've seen, I'd say that the 50mm f/1.4 lenses (A, F and  
 FA) outperform the K50/1.2, particularly wide open,


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Re: PESO: Visit your local harbour and take photos while you stillcan!

2006-09-12 Thread Norman Baugher
Ah, that just because no one was packin'...
Norm

From: Bob W
 snip
 I saw a group of Muslim women veiled head-to-toe in black (on a bright 
 sunshiny day)
 with metal grills across their eyes, sitting around having a picnic
 with their very Western-looking children. Along the towpath came a
 family of Orhodox Jews, also dressed top-to-toe in black, with hair in
 ringlets, and the wife wearing a wig. And you know what? They didn't
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Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.

2006-09-08 Thread Norman Baugher
I do about dentists...
Norm

From: Juey Chong Ong 
 On Sep 7, 2006, at 8:55 AM, Bob Shell wrote:
 
 What bothers me most is that these kids will  have negative feelings
 about photographers for the rest of their lives.
 
 Do grown-ups have negative feelings about doctors for the rest of  
 their lives?



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Re: Taking Candy from a baby.

2006-09-07 Thread Norman Baugher
I think someone should take the bitch to a studio, hook her up to some 
electrodes against her will and make some photographic art.
Norm

From: David Savage
I just heard about this on the news.

 The story:
 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html

 The images:
 http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm

 Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me.



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Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.

2006-09-07 Thread Norman Baugher
Mr. Walkden, I believe that's about as well put as it's going to get...
Norm
 
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was trying to make images that made you feel something, because we
are so inundated with images in our culture that oftentimes people
don't feel anything.

It seems to me that she is another of these people who think they are
the only ones who feel things, rather like that stupid woman who
promoted 'No Photography Day' because she claimed people weren't 'in
the moment'.

We are indeed inundated with images in our culture. Every day I can
look at pictures of real children starving to death, being blown up by
car bombs in Iraq, having their hands cut off by the Lord's Resistance
Army, being worked to death making bricks or trainers, or being kept
in a car inspection pit for 8 years.

If this kind of thing doesn't make people feel, then I don't think a
picture of some kid crying for candy will do it.


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Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.

2006-09-07 Thread Norman Baugher
Frank - I'm starting to worry about you...(well, not starting, just worrying 
more now)
Norm

From: frank theriault
 Oh my God!
 I'm actually finding myself in agreement with Norm.
 I better go back to lurking.  Something is seriously wrong here.
 But, Bob did indeed hit the nail on the head.



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Re: Joe Rosenthal dies (aged 94)

2006-08-22 Thread Norman Baugher
From the BBC:
[He is reported to have made less than $10,000 (£5,300) from what is widely 
considered to be one of the most famous photographs of the war.
And I was gratified to get that, the San Francisco Chronicle quotes him as 
saying in a 1995 interview.

Every once in a while someone teases me that I could have been rich. But 
I'm alive. A lot of the men who were there are not. And a lot of them were 
badly wounded. I was not. And so I don't have the feeling someone owes me 
for this. ]

Norm

- Original Message - 
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax List PDML@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: Joe Rosenthal dies (aged 94)



 Joe Rosenthal, probably best-known for his photograph of
 (a recreation of) US Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima
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Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?

2006-08-03 Thread Norman Baugher
Let's throw in Freedom Fighter somewhere as well...
Norm

From: P. J. Alling 

 No, like all good libertarians we call those who overreach their 
 authority stateists.  Those who finally rebel are called rebels.  
 Terrorists are a different kettle of fish entirely. 
 
 William Robb wrote:
 
From: P. J. Alling
Who says we tolerate it.  When the cops do something like this you
contact a lawyer and the local press.  Freedom needs to be defended
everywhere, but it needs to be defended.  If it isn't, eventually you
have to use force...



We call those people terrorists.



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Re: Stumped Over K10D

2006-08-03 Thread Norman Baugher
From: Mark Roberts 
 mike wilson wrote:
 
Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9.
 
 That would be a real dog.
 
Noise level would be way to high...
Norm


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Re: Talk about crap

2006-07-26 Thread Norman Baugher
From: Scott Loveless

 On 7/25/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Norman Baugher wrote:

 From: Tom C
 
  Not to mention that the USSR never doubted it as a fact.
 
 Just as I thought!! The USSR was in on the conspiracy...
 Norm

 Norm. Yeah, right.
 Everyone knows Norm is just a figment of Frank Theriault's
 imagination.

 For the record, Frank's imagination is very vivid.  I've been
 believing those cigarettes were real ever since GFM.

 Thanks, Norm!  (Or Frank.  Or whomever I'm imagining myself confused 
 about.)

Norm? Who's Norm? What cigarettes? Frank's?
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Re: Radio Frequency Interference

2006-07-26 Thread Norman Baugher
I get around this by wearing a hat made from tin foil as protection...
Norm

From: Brian Dunn 
 
 I've been noticing some interference in some photos lately.   
snip
 Has anyone else seen this yet?



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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-07-26 Thread Norman Baugher
Speaking of Wikipedia...
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50902

From: Bob Shell .
 
 And here's a somewhat windy Wikipedia article:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Synergy_Drive



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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-26 Thread Norman Baugher
That was definitely not a strong enough warning Bob...
Norm

From: Bob W 
 Warning: not office friendly. Not out-of-the-office friendly either.
 In fact, not an act of friendship by any description, anywhere,
 anytime or anyhow. Do not follow this link if you are easily offended.
 Do not follow this link even if you are really, really difficult to
 offend. Probably best to leave well alone under all circumstances.
 Especially if you wear a pacemaker, but even if you've the heart of an
 athletic ox, be advised that this is not for you. No. No. No.
 
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/galleries/index.html?in_image_id=2726
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Re: Chimps

2006-07-25 Thread Norman Baugher
ROTFLMAO!!!
Norm

From: Bob W 
 Still, it could worse. At Whipsnade the non-human primate population
 is divided between those that fling their crap through the wire at the
 spectators, and those that jerk off into crisp bags.
 
 And to think that some people doubt Darwin...



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Re: Talk about crap

2006-07-25 Thread Norman Baugher
Just as I thought!! The USSR was in on the conspiracy...
Norm
 
From: Tom C 
 
 Not to mention that the USSR never doubted it as a fact.
 



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Re: [OT] Whales for lunch (was PESO - Jump)

2006-07-22 Thread Norman Baugher
ROTFLMAO...

From: DagT 
snip  So, the natural  
 balance has been shifted by us long ago and now we have to control  
 all parts to providesnip


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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-22 Thread Norman Baugher
I say kill them all so we won't have to have these conversations...
Norm

From: Bob W 
 Norway has a traditional history of whale hunting. Australian 
 aborigines have a traditional history of hunting dugong (which 
 may be threatened). The former is condemned but the latter is 
 allowed. Go figure.
 
 
 It's quite easy to figure, actually. One of them is large-scale,
 global and industrialised, the other is subsistence-level and local.



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Re: [OT] Whales for lunch (was PESO - Jump)

2006-07-22 Thread Norman Baugher
Where he was promptly eaten. His running probably had something to do with 
Michael Jackson...
Norm

From: DagT
Here´s a small question:
Where did Keiko (from the Free Willy movies) run to get away from the
americans?
To a safe Norwegian fjord! .-)



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Re: [OT] Whales for lunch (was PESO - Jump)

2006-07-22 Thread Norman Baugher
They used fires to modify the landscape to produce a given resultnot 
balance nature (which is impossible for humans to do).
Norm

From: Keith McGuinness

 Norman Baugher wrote:
 ROTFLMAO...

 From: DagT
 snip  So, the natural
 balance has been shifted by us long ago and now we have to control
 all parts to providesnip

 But DagT is right (for at least some environments).

 For instance, it is known that indigenous Australians, in
 northern regions, used fire to modify the landscape for thousands
 of years. Fire is also a natural phenomenon for much of the
 country. Further, there is evidence that the planting of exotic
 grasses alters the nature of the fires (time and intensity).

 One of the more controversial management issues up here is,
 therefore, what sort of fire regime should we have? The natural
 one? The one imposed by indigenous Australians? Some other
 regime? If so, what?

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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-21 Thread Norman Baugher
Hey, if Vladimir Putin can get away with it...

 Aaron Reynolds wrote:
snip him kissing his infant's bellysnip  


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Re: ZX-5n

2006-07-18 Thread Norman Baugher
Ni, ni. ni. ni. ni!!!
From: Cotty 
 On 18/7/06, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
I am considering selling my only film camera body as I am so happy with 
digital. If anyone is interested I will give you a good price.
 
 It's official: film is dead.
 ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Re: Model Night in the Camera Club

2006-07-12 Thread Norman Baugher
From: William Robb 
 
 http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-site.html
 Any critics or advice is welcome, naturally ...
 
 Shot from higher up.
 I like the lens axis to be somewhere around the same level as the nose.
 Bring your main light up a bit higher, and use more fill.

And get a better looking model.
Norm


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Re: Model Night in the Camera Club

2006-07-12 Thread Norman Baugher
Spoken like a true slut??
Norm

From: frank theriault 
 On 7/12/06, Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And get a better looking model.
 
 You're such a pig, Norm.
 
 I have to say, though, you're right...
 
 LOL



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Re: Model Night in the Camera Club

2006-07-12 Thread Norman Baugher
Frank - make sure you don't mention the thing about the snakeskin LX...
Norm

From: frank theriault 
 On 7/12/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alright I give, who might that be?

 
 Discretion prevents me from disclosing who it might be.
 
 I will tell you, however, that he lives in Panama City Florida, and
 his surname means killer of the moors, and his first name sounds a
 lot like a certain Roman Emperor who was killed by his best friend and
 then ended up in a Shakespeare play.
 
 I can say no more...



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Re: Seriously Off Topic: War is starting in Israel

2006-07-12 Thread Norman Baugher
Keith, blow it out your ass and learn when to shut the f#$@ up.
Norm

From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 John Francis wrote:
 Boris *did* take a position.
 He opined (and Godfrey agreed) that war is starting.

 This suggests that anything that happened before today
 was not an act of war.

 You may agree with this viewpoint - you may disagree.
 But the PDML is no place to discuss it, endorse it,
 or argue against it.

 Wrong.

 To recognize that one of our esteemed list members has warned his fellow 
 list
 members that his own PERSONAL country has been attacked and might well be 
 in a
 state of WAR now, is of *paramount* significance. To all of us.

 To continue with the discussion here is another matter, but what shall we 
 do?
 Abandon our fellow list member and say, Fine, don't contact us again, 
 because
 we've decided you're now persona non grata, and don't call us, we'll call 
 you?

 Be careful, John. I still have many free slots in my personal persona non
 grata list. I've no aversion to adding you.



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Re: Safety

2006-07-12 Thread Norman Baugher
Yeah, and no one seems to question the length of time Native North American 
Indians lived in the USyada yada yada Please take this shit off the 
list...
Norm

From: Larry Levy
 Sridhar,

 Considering what is going on in your part of the world, I'm glad that you
 are safe. Hope you remain so.
 Hmm, no one seems to question the legitimacy of the length of time Hindus
 have lived in India.

 Boris,

 Considering what is going on in your part of the world, I'm glad that you
 too are safe. Hope you remain so.
 Hmm, wonder why people question the legitimacy of the length of time Jews
 have lived in the land. Probably as long as Hindus have lived in India.

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Re: Safety

2006-07-12 Thread Norman Baugher
My God - I am, was this a rapture?

From: keith_w  
 I did. You're gone!



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Re: Safety

2006-07-12 Thread Norman Baugher
From: Mark Roberts

 Norman Baugher wrote:
 
From: keith_w  
 I did. You're gone!

My God - I am, was this a rapture?
 
 Could be. Only one way to be sure - check what kind of beer is
 available...

All I see is Molson - now I'm afraid...
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Re: Safety

2006-07-12 Thread Norman Baugher
Only if it's pinched from Canadians...
Norm

From: frank theriault 
 On 7/12/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could be. Only one way to be sure - check what kind of beer is
 available...
 
 You don't normally drink, do you, Norm?



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Re: Greetings from Munich

2006-06-26 Thread Norman Baugher
Spoken like a true American. If you see Adelheid, tell her hello for me...
Norm

From: Rick Womer
snip
The current foaming-at-the-mouth soccer
 madness I could do without...



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Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-23 Thread Norman Baugher
Kiwi, I am not...
Norm

From: David Mann 

 On Jun 23, 2006, at 12:47 AM, Norman Baugher wrote:
 
 I'm not familiar with this FluckR...
 
 Didn't know you were an NZer...
 
 (if you don't know what I'm talking about, ask an Australian)



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Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-22 Thread Norman Baugher
I'm not familiar with this FluckR...
Norm

From: Michael Christian Gaudet 

 With a tip of my hat to Tom and John's recent comments, I'm not sure what
 the next incarnation of PUG's gallery should be, but I did try something
 recently that might be set an example of a plausible way to proceed using
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Re: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-22 Thread Norman Baugher
I like hubris too, it's really good with flat bread...
Norm

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi .  
 What gives you, or anyone else, the hubris to judge me? 


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Re: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-22 Thread Norman Baugher
From: Bob W 
 Another important reason for this is that frankly I find the themes
 rather unchallenging and unimaginative. Themes like What is it?
 Askew Geometrical and Patterns strike me as utterly trite and
 unlikely to encourage good photography 

Bob, I couldn't agree more! I'll suggest a few interesting ones:

Dirty Socks
Space Aliens
Hangovers
Cotty
Spare Ribs
Baby Pigeons

Feel free to add more...
Norm


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Re: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-22 Thread Norman Baugher
Oh - I forgot one: Figurines
Norm

From: Cotty 

 On 22/6/06, Norman Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
Dirty Socks
Space Aliens
Hangovers
Cotty
Spare Ribs
Baby Pigeons

Feel free to add more...
Norm
 
 Norm with a consignment of cell phone covers stuffed up his nostrils.



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Re: Am I the only person flying to GFM via Charlotte?

2006-05-18 Thread Norman Baugher
Thanks for the general invite Rick. I'm flying into Asheville this time --  
knock an hour off the drive time.

Norm

From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If not, I hereby renew my invitation to join me in my
rental car for the drive to GFM (about noon Friday)
and back (right after the close of festivities
Sunday). 





Re: Am I the only person flying to GFM via Charlotte?

2006-05-18 Thread Norman Baugher
Thanks for the general invite Rick. I'm flying into Asheville this time --  
knock an hour off the drive time.

Norm

From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If not, I hereby renew my invitation to join me in my
rental car for the drive to GFM (about noon Friday)
and back (right after the close of festivities
Sunday).





Re: OT: Controversial subjects (RE: Zone Alarm (Now OT)

2006-05-18 Thread Norman Baugher
Didn't Brad Dodo join in somewhere to, but I believe he was replying to his 
own posts...

Norm

From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If I remember correctly, Mafud and Kirkland Ramsay III (Presbyterian) 
where

arguing vehemently against each other, with Matt (?) Grene providing
vociferous support to one of the main protagonists. What made it so 
special

is that all three of them were, in fact, the same person...





Re: OT: Controversial subjects (RE: Zone Alarm (Now OT)

2006-05-18 Thread Norman Baugher
Join the crowd...what a whack job. I do remember the look on TV's face, at 
GFM, when I introduced myself to him as Brad Dodo - it was rather 
frightening.

Norm

From: Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I remember Mafud and got some friendly off-list emails from him at one 
stage. But from Brad Dobo I got promises of bodily harm (that included the 
loss of all my teeth) in response to a diplomatic (and kindly I thought) 
suggestion that he seek help. I have a feeling I was not the only one 
threatened with mayhem.





Re: GFM and food

2006-05-16 Thread Norman Baugher
This has worked quite well for me in the past. Mostly payment for modeling 
services.

Norm

From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'll probably impinge on the goodwill of others and drink your beer and 
eat your food





Re: GFM and food

2006-05-16 Thread Norman Baugher

This has worked quite well for me in the past. Mostly payment for modeling
services.
Norm

From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'll probably impinge on the goodwill of others and drink your beer and 
eat your food 





Re: Fw: Strange looking dog in Afghanistan...

2006-05-16 Thread Norman Baugher
Beautiful smile though, reminds me of my first girlfriend Gretchen. Ah, but 
that was years ago

Norm

From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Canis photoshopus maybe?


My initial reaction also.

 http://michaelyon-online.com/media/images/disp/roadahead/lg/12lg.jpg





Re: Cleaning Out the Card Bay - istDS

2006-05-15 Thread Norman Baugher

Shel,
I would suggest a mild soap and hot water...
Norm

From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any suggestions for cleaning out the card bay in the DS?  The summer 
months

get pretty dusty around here - might it be an issue if dust or fine grit
gets into the card bay?  Would blowing it out with compressed air be OK, 
or

is there a better alternative?  IOs there something that'll slide into the
bay in lie of the card that might clean provide some cleaning action?





Re: Cleaning Out the Card Bay - istDS

2006-05-15 Thread Norman Baugher

Shel,
I would suggest a mild soap and hot water...
Norm


From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any suggestions for cleaning out the card bay in the DS?  The summer 
months

get pretty dusty around here - might it be an issue if dust or fine grit
gets into the card bay?  Would blowing it out with compressed air be OK, 
or
is there a better alternative?  IOs there something that'll slide into 
the

bay in lie of the card that might clean provide some cleaning action?







Re: Pentax sighting

2006-05-12 Thread Norman Baugher

What do you expect from the rude bastard!
Norm

From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]



It can certainly be annoying when posted here repeatedly.  Some here have
even said it borders on rude and being mean spirited.

[Original Message]
From: Joseph Tainter 



P.S. Can discombobulate be a verb?





Re: worst day yet for list problems

2006-05-11 Thread Norman Baugher
I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do something 
about it! geez

Norm

From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are 
getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. 
And I've received only about a dozen overall.







Re: worst day yet for list problems

2006-05-11 Thread Norman Baugher


I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do something 
about it! geez

Norm


From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are 
getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. 
And I've received only about a dozen overall.









Re: worst day yet for list problems

2006-05-11 Thread Norman Baugher

It's just so inconsiderate of him.
Norm

From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Go back to sleep, Norm. Doug has already posted is intended 
improvements. It probably will be all fixed by next week.


Norman Baugher wrote:


I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do something 
about it! geez

Norm


From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are 
getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my 
mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.





Re: worst day yet for list problems

2006-05-11 Thread Norman Baugher

Nice Mark, very nice.
Norm
note lack of sarcasm

From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Cotty wrote:


Hey, mock not yodler. I have a little role for you...


Yodler??? Have you heard my latest?
http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3





Re: worst day yet for list problems

2006-05-11 Thread Norman Baugher
I'll be there Saturday afternoonand yes, that is a threat. insert evil 
laugh here

Norm

From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Oh my god, is Norm coming to GFM again? Run away!






Re: How to create pleasant bokeh? (Was)RE: PESO: Common Redshank...

2006-05-10 Thread Norman Baugher

To answer the question - use a lens that produces good bokeh?
Norm

From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Gonz is onto something when he points at the harsh bokeh. So now I wonder:
Is there anything I can do to make it less harsh in Phootoshop (Elements 
3)?
Gaussian Blur is one obvious answer. It helps, but it does not take it 
right

where I want.
Does anybody have some input on this?





Re: Analog versus Digital Shootout

2006-05-05 Thread Norman Baugher

I guess that proves that Canon is far superior...
Norm

From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]


For your enjoyment. I'm just the messenger..

William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Schneider 
Subject: Analog versus Digital Shootout





http://www.ales.litomisky.com/shootout/analogversusdigitalshootout.htm






Re: OT - Dumb PayPal Question

2006-05-04 Thread Norman Baugher
This I really love about PayPal, when they want you to verify your bank 
account so you can sign up, they make two small deposits that miraculously 
appear in your bank account overnight. However, when you move PayPal funds 
to your bank account it takes 3-4 days...hmm

Norm

From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My *PayPal* account balance is now in negative territory and according to 
them it will be credited within 3-4 business days. I still owe the money 
to the seller.





Re: just a pussycat - Re: tigger woods

2006-05-04 Thread Norman Baugher
Didn't W. Churchill refer to it something like - the process of putting a 
very small ball into a very small hole, at great distances with tools 
ill-equipped for the job?

Norm

From: frank theriault


On 5/3/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I forget who said it but entirely agree with the sentiment that golf is
a good walk, spoiled.


Among others (I'm sure), the quote has been attributed to Mark Twain.





Re: List Question

2006-04-27 Thread Norman Baugher
I believe it is a competency issue with the list maintainer. Send him an 
email Tom!

Norm

From: Tom C

I, as many others are having problems receiving all the messages fron the 
list, often not my own.  I'm not blaming this on any of the PDML list 
inner workings.  Is is in general aggravating.





Re: OT - Haunting Chernobyl Gallery (BBC news)

2006-04-19 Thread Norman Baugher

Didn't this turn out to be bogus?
Norm

From: Igor Roshchin 


Here is a web site that I found very interesting and without
sensational trends and/or pretentiousness very often present in the 
news publications.

Ghost Town at
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/
or
http://elenafilatova.com





Re: Who's Not Shooting Raw?

2006-04-13 Thread Norman Baugher

I'm still shooting raw film
HAR!
Norm

From: Shel Belinkoff
Hi, I don't want to start a flame war, or get anyone's undies in knot. 
I'm
just curious to know how many people are not shooting raw, and why that 
may

be.  Please, no flames or judgemental comment.  We all know raw has
advantages, and in some circumstances can be a better choice than shooting
JPEGs.





Re: OT: Big Squirrel Problem

2006-04-07 Thread Norman Baugher

It's probably just Frank in a bear suit...
Norm

From: Cotty 


http://www.geekbase.org/squirrelproblem/


And that's just outside PDML Central, at GFM.





Re: OT - Eiffel Tower

2006-04-04 Thread Norman Baugher
Yep, and the conference room next to my office has a nice skylight in the 
ceilingit's where one of the engines came through the roof. 
(unfortunately it landed on someone)

Norm

From: Igor Roshchin

BTW, probably not that many people know that Empire State Building
withstood a B-25 bomber hitting it and being stuck in the building
at the 79th floor in 1945.





Re: Well here it is.PDML Logo

2006-03-17 Thread Norman Baugher
I would just leave PDML as an acronym, without the explanation. That way, 
you can make up whatever definition you'd like for whomever...

Norm
- Original Message - 
From: Dave Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:58 PM
Subject: Well here it is.PDML Logo



Well this is something i think is decent enough for a nice logo for a hat.

http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=Logofinalcopy.jpg

I hope i didi a better job at this than my band shots.
But hey, if the collective hates me over this, my cats love me.:-)

Any way, for those that are concerned, please look and if its crap let me 
know, and i'll pass on the choir to someone else.


As far as Frank and GW i'll see what i can do for your your hat requests






Re: Pentax kills analog medium format

2006-03-16 Thread Norman Baugher

And I'm loving it!!!
Norm

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

All medium format film camera prices have been in the toilet. 




Re: Flash! Latest news from Kodak

2006-02-08 Thread Norman Baugher
Old and abused? Sepia tone them then beat the hell out 'em. I don't need 
no stinkin' software...

Norm

Shel Belinkoff wrote:


This is great news.  I can't count the number of requests on various
Photoshop forums that ask how to make photos look old and abused.  Kodak
has finally hit upon something - Super!





Re: Flash! Latest news from Kodak

2006-02-08 Thread Norman Baugher

Don't forget the gravy G.
Norm

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Plop a bit o grits on em to.:-)

Dave  

 Old and abused? Sepia tone them then beat the 
hell out 'em. I don't need 
 


no stinkin' software...
Norm

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

   


This is great news.  I can't count the number of requests on various
Photoshop forums that ask how to make photos look old and abused.  Kodak
has finally hit upon something - Super!

 







 





Re: OT: NYT article on Digital Cameras (PMA)

2006-02-08 Thread Norman Baugher
Actually, they are trying to come up with a name for the new model that 
doesn't include an asterisk.

Norm

Tom C wrote:


That's probably because Pentax just wants to keep it a big secret.




Re: Who is the owner/moderator?

2006-02-08 Thread Norman Baugher
Doug Brewer is to blame, he's probably asleep again. Don't worry, we'll 
deal with him at this year's GFM.

Norm
evil laugh

Bob Shell wrote:

I've forgotten.  Who is the owner/moderator for this list?  I just  
got a mailbox full of those damned bounce mails from  studiogriffanti 
.  The owner/moderator needs to unsubscribe this person!




Re: Who is the owner/moderator?

2006-02-07 Thread Norman Baugher

That explains why you keep unsubbing me...
Norm

Doug Brewer wrote:

Most days I give the bounce folder a cursury glance to see if anything 
jumps out at me. If it does, I consider unsubbing the account




Re: nighty night

2006-02-07 Thread Norman Baugher

Aaron,
Where the hell are you going, it was good to see  you back on the list. 
What, you run out of batteries for the Barbycam?

Norm

Aaron Reynolds wrote:

That was brief and really not very much fun.  Maybe I'll sign on again 
in another three years.


-Aaron






Re: Who is the owner/moderator?

2006-02-07 Thread Norman Baugher
That's what I thought, just checking. I now have a few months to plot my 
revengeGFM, here I come.

Norm insert insidious laugh here

Doug Brewer wrote:


Norman Baugher wrote:


That explains why you keep unsubbing me...
Norm



Naw, Norm. I unsub you for fun.






Re: PUG picture limits

2006-01-30 Thread Norman Baugher

You guys are just a bunch of pessimists...
Norm

Rob Studdert wrote:

We really should find out what our generous PUG hosts can tolerate WRT 
bandwidth increases before we start discussing arbitrary amendments to the 
current file constraints.






Re: PDML readers - statistics

2006-01-18 Thread Norman Baugher

I think you're wrong Doug.
Norm

Doug Brewer wrote:


. nope.
Right now, we're running right about 500 regular list subs, 400  
digest subs, and who knows how many on Mail-archive readers. Judging  
from the complaints I get if the archives are slow/dormant, it's in  
the hundreds.






Re: GFM - Can't Make It This Year

2006-01-17 Thread Norman Baugher
That's a damn shame! Those little guys must be gathering quite a bit of 
dust by now...

Norm

Cotty wrote:


I have some disappointing news that I have been agonising over for a few
weeks now.

Unfortunately, I will not be able to make it to GFM 06 through lack of
time :-((
 





Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?

2006-01-13 Thread Norman Baugher
Yeah, and the enthusiasts and casual shooters want the cameras the pros 
use

Norm

Jens Bladt wrote:


Pentax designed for enthusiasts and casual shooters, not for the working
photographer. That's (almost) fine for me, but not for who ever want to make
a living from photography.





Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-13 Thread Norman Baugher
Ah, 'cause maybe it's a shitty place to be, especially if you don't want 
to be someone's girlfriend?

Norm

John Forbes wrote:

Ever wondered why there are so many suicides in jail? 




Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread Norman Baugher

HAR! And people wonder why expats get burnout
Norm

Joseph Tainter wrote:


This one goes into my How did the human species ever survive? file.





Re: OT - HUMOR: Drunk Driving Stop Video

2005-12-09 Thread Norman Baugher

Reno 911! is funny as hell. Comedy Central.
Norm

Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Video and sound taken from the arresting officer's patrol car: Runs on
Windows Media Player, maybe other viewers as well. 2MB file.

http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/DUIStop.wmv


Shel 
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 





 





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