Re: For sale Friday, big list to unload

[mike wilson]

> On 19/04/2024 23:25 BST Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>  
> > On Apr 19, 2024, at 3:10 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> > 
> > I believe Cotty is selling gear to raise money to dump into a hole in the 
> > water.
> 
> I dunno why he doesn't save time and effort and just tear up hundred pound 
> notes, in the shower, with his clothes on.

Sadly, we don't have hundred pound notes.  Probably soon...

And our money is plastic these days.  I've never actually tried but I suspect 
that it will not tear as easily as paper and, with wet hands, will be 
impossible to rip.  And you know what they say about taking scissors into the 
shower.
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Re: testing testing

[mike wilson]

I also seem to be missing a large number of posts.  Also, threads are seriously 
out of sequence.  It's one of the mysteries of (modern) life.
> On 13/04/2024 14:17 BST ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
>  
> post I made in the last few weeks to PESOS didn't show up in my PDML 
> folder.. and since the end of March I haven't gotten
> -any- PDML list mail at all..  hmmm
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Re: Grey Heron (continued)

[mike wilson]

Henk's missive did not appear in my inbox, which is, of course, the source of 
Great Egret for me.  Otherwise I have to go to Somerset, at the other end of 
England, unless I would be happy with occasional Little Egrets.  Generally, 
though, I have no Egrets at all.
> On 31/03/2024 05:27 BST Alan C  wrote:
> 
>  
> Excellent shot, Henk.
> 
> Interesting to hear about the Great Egrets. Must be getting warmer there?
> 
> Here is a recent shot of a local one (heavy crop). Not all that common. 
> K5 & HD 55-300 @ 300.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/53622138608/
> 
> Alan C
> 
> 
> 
> On 30-Mar-24 09:03 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:
> > In our region some grey herons are staying in the winter and are 
> > breeding from februari till june.
> > They are of the same species as the one of Alan's photo.
> > See https://flic.kr/p/2pGkKB3.
> >
> > The great egret is seen around here more and more, though I haven't 
> > spotted one here this season.
> >
> > Henk
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Re: PESO: Morning Wood

[mike wilson]

Nearly as good a title as "Tits like coconuts".  Nearly.
> On 27/03/2024 21:03 GMT Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
>  
> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/morning-wood-fotoralfbe/48192393
> 
> As always, comments and suggestions are most welcome. Enjoy.
> 
> Ralf
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OT: Richard Sandler

[mike wilson]

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/feb/27/between-the-streets-shades-of-new-york-in-pictures-richard-sandler-the-eyes-of-the-city
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Re: PESO: A strange looking bird

[mike wilson]

Saw it.  Twice.
> On 20/03/2024 09:14 GMT Alan C  wrote:
> 
>  
> Won't go. Trying again.
> 
> On 20-Mar-24 06:53 AM, Alan C wrote:
> > An African Snake Darter at Lake Panic, near Skukuza Camp, Kruger Park. 
> > Unfortunately back lit. These birds are closely related to Cormorants 
> > but swim with their bodies totally immersed giving the impression of a 
> > swimming snake. The second image (by a fellow photographer, Ian van 
> > Romburgh) shows that very well.
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/53599214819/
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/51790648710/
> >
> > K5 & Sigma 170-500 DG
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Re: I don’t know water fowl

[mike wilson]

> On 16/03/2024 14:27 GMT coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
> 
>  
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/101533246@N02/rLrsxU8r2Q
> 
> What can anyone tell me about them?

Look like Muscovy (i.e. domestic) ducks.  Maybe interbred with wildfowl but 
maybe not.
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Re: A half-frame Pentax film camera

[mike wilson]

> On 03/03/2024 15:04 GMT Comcast  wrote:
> 
>  
> As a medium, film suffers in comparison to digital in that it is less capable 
> of low light reproduction and when pushed, image quality drops precipitously. 
> The solution has always been larger formats. My best film work was generally 
> on 6x7 or 6x6 film. Half a f a 35 mm frame has no appeal whatsoever. Am I 
> missing something here?
> Paul

Not being (or wanting to be) part of the in crowd?

> 
> > On Mar 3, 2024, at 4:01 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> > 
> > More news on the Pentax film camera:
> > https://youtu.be/xqRQTOkhOJU?si=PssAjafiIoYaxbuW
> > 
> > As for me, with a least a dozen film camera's accumulating dust on the 
> > shelf is not fair to these to invest in a new one.
> >
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Re: Problems reading SD cards

[mike wilson]

Not wishing to teach granny how to suck eggs but you could set your old hard 
drive as the C: drive by installing it where the existing new drive plugs in.  
The new drive can then be plugged in and act as an internal storage (usually 
D:) drive.  Swap as much data as possible from the old drive to the new and you 
should have enough space for a reinstall of W7, PS6 or whatever route you 
choose.
> On 24/02/2024 17:25 GMT John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
>  
> Bookmarked that link. I may be able to find the part from Amazon in the 
> U.S. if I need it, but having the part bookmarked gives me the NAME to 
> look up.
> 
> On 2/24/2024 1:47 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > Transfer the guts of the new machine to the case of the old.  You should be 
> > able to either plug the drive straight into the motherboard via an existing 
> > socket or use a card in one of the PCIE slots. For example:
> > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rivo-Controller-Expansion-Profile-Non-Raid/dp/B0828FY1B2/ref=sr_1_4
> >> On 23/02/2024 17:11 GMT John Sessoms  wrote:
> >>
> >>   
> >> I'll look into both possibilities.
> >>
> >> The hard part is going to be figuring out if I actually have the media
> >> for Photoshop CS6 Extended and if so where did I put it when I moved?
> >>
> >> I hope I don't have to replace the Photoshop computer. For one thing, it
> >> has a LightScribe Blue-ray/DVD/CDROM burner & new computers you can't
> >> even get a DVD player.
> >>
> >> They don't even build the chassis with a bay to install one anymore.
> >>
> >> On 2/22/2024 4:21 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
> >>> Since Win7 was working for you have you considered backing everything up
> >>> and re-installing Win7?  If all you use that computer for is photo
> >>> processing there shouldn't be a lot of software to re-install.
> >>>
> >>> OTOH, if you have a computer running (or able to run) Win10, Win10 has a
> >>> compatibility mode that you can activate that allows you to run aged
> >>> games and software.
> >>>
> >>> -p
> >>>
> >>> On 2/21/2024 6:54 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
> >>>> I spent today doing some maintenance on my photography - making sure I
> >>>> have all of my images copied off of the memory cards onto the computer
> >>>> & batch renaming by Camera Type & Sequence Number ... so that IMGP5432
> >>>> from the K-2 becomes K3-05432
> >>>>
> >>>> Part of the reason for this is the default for Pentax Raw files is
> >>>> "IMGP" and a couple of my cameras have rolled over past  and
> >>>> the K-1 numbering was reset when I had to send it in for repair after
> >>>> I fell & yanked the screen off the back.
> >>>>
> >>>> So it's K10D-1, K20D-0, K-3-0 & K-1-1 ... I pretty
> >>>> much kept up with it WHILE I was downloading images from the camera up
> >>>> until Covid (when I got lazy and sometimes wouldn't download the
> >>>> images for months after I took them)
> >>>>
> >>>> ANYWAY - The K-3 has been giving me fits downloading images today.
> >>>> Adobe Bridge "get media" seems to fail after pulling down about 8
> >>>> images. I'm having the same problem directly copying from the card to
> >>>> the computer - 8 images & an error.
> >>>>
> >>>> When the error comes Windoze says the DCIM folder is empty & can't
> >>>> even see the card to eject it. If I just pull the card reader out &
> >>>> plug it in again the sub-folders are still there in DCIM and I can go
> >>>> into the sub-folder and copy images manually ... but if I select more
> >>>> than 8 at a time it's going to have the same error copying.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I just select 8 images they seem to copy fine and then I can select
> >>>> 8 more and they'll copy, but rarely works for a third batch of 8.
> >>>> Repeat remove & reinsert & select the next 8 ...
> >>>>
> >>>> I only had the problem with the K-3 cards - 2-32GB Sandisk Extreme
> >>>> SDHC and 1-32GB Sandisk Ultra SDXC.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm pretty sure I only lost a single image to corruption. Sucks, but
> >>>> at least it's not worse. I copied all the images over to my file server.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know if it's the camera, the cards, the card reader or the
> >>>> computer. I hope it's not the computer because it's Windows 7 &
> >>>> Photoshop CS6 Extended (which I don't think will run on Windoze 10 &
> >>>> Windoze 10 definitely would not install on this computer (I shall not
> >>>> repeat my previous rant about the attempt to install Windows 10 ...)
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll shut the Photoshop computer down tomorrow, open it up & give it a
> >>>> good cleaning inside & see where we go from here.
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Re: Problems reading SD cards

[mike wilson]

Transfer the guts of the new machine to the case of the old.  You should be 
able to either plug the drive straight into the motherboard via an existing 
socket or use a card in one of the PCIE slots. For example:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rivo-Controller-Expansion-Profile-Non-Raid/dp/B0828FY1B2/ref=sr_1_4
> On 23/02/2024 17:11 GMT John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
>  
> I'll look into both possibilities.
> 
> The hard part is going to be figuring out if I actually have the media 
> for Photoshop CS6 Extended and if so where did I put it when I moved?
> 
> I hope I don't have to replace the Photoshop computer. For one thing, it 
> has a LightScribe Blue-ray/DVD/CDROM burner & new computers you can't 
> even get a DVD player.
> 
> They don't even build the chassis with a bay to install one anymore.
> 
> On 2/22/2024 4:21 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
> > Since Win7 was working for you have you considered backing everything up 
> > and re-installing Win7?  If all you use that computer for is photo 
> > processing there shouldn't be a lot of software to re-install.
> > 
> > OTOH, if you have a computer running (or able to run) Win10, Win10 has a 
> > compatibility mode that you can activate that allows you to run aged 
> > games and software.
> > 
> > -p
> > 
> > On 2/21/2024 6:54 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
> >> I spent today doing some maintenance on my photography - making sure I 
> >> have all of my images copied off of the memory cards onto the computer 
> >> & batch renaming by Camera Type & Sequence Number ... so that IMGP5432 
> >> from the K-2 becomes K3-05432
> >>
> >> Part of the reason for this is the default for Pentax Raw files is 
> >> "IMGP" and a couple of my cameras have rolled over past  and 
> >> the K-1 numbering was reset when I had to send it in for repair after 
> >> I fell & yanked the screen off the back.
> >>
> >> So it's K10D-1, K20D-0, K-3-0 & K-1-1 ... I pretty 
> >> much kept up with it WHILE I was downloading images from the camera up 
> >> until Covid (when I got lazy and sometimes wouldn't download the 
> >> images for months after I took them)
> >>
> >> ANYWAY - The K-3 has been giving me fits downloading images today. 
> >> Adobe Bridge "get media" seems to fail after pulling down about 8 
> >> images. I'm having the same problem directly copying from the card to 
> >> the computer - 8 images & an error.
> >>
> >> When the error comes Windoze says the DCIM folder is empty & can't 
> >> even see the card to eject it. If I just pull the card reader out & 
> >> plug it in again the sub-folders are still there in DCIM and I can go 
> >> into the sub-folder and copy images manually ... but if I select more 
> >> than 8 at a time it's going to have the same error copying.
> >>
> >> If I just select 8 images they seem to copy fine and then I can select 
> >> 8 more and they'll copy, but rarely works for a third batch of 8. 
> >> Repeat remove & reinsert & select the next 8 ...
> >>
> >> I only had the problem with the K-3 cards - 2-32GB Sandisk Extreme 
> >> SDHC and 1-32GB Sandisk Ultra SDXC.
> >>
> >> I'm pretty sure I only lost a single image to corruption. Sucks, but 
> >> at least it's not worse. I copied all the images over to my file server.
> >>
> >> I don't know if it's the camera, the cards, the card reader or the 
> >> computer. I hope it's not the computer because it's Windows 7 & 
> >> Photoshop CS6 Extended (which I don't think will run on Windoze 10 & 
> >> Windoze 10 definitely would not install on this computer (I shall not 
> >> repeat my previous rant about the attempt to install Windows 10 ...)
> >>
> >> I'll shut the Photoshop computer down tomorrow, open it up & give it a 
> >> good cleaning inside & see where we go from here.
> >>
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Re: Problems reading SD cards

[mike wilson]

Unlikely to be the cards if you are getting exactly the same error on all 
three.  My default position is to blame Adobe, which seems to have a more than 
50% success rate.  For hardware problems, I would look at the card reader.
> On 22/02/2024 00:54 GMT John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
>  
> I spent today doing some maintenance on my photography - making sure I 
> have all of my images copied off of the memory cards onto the computer & 
> batch renaming by Camera Type & Sequence Number ... so that IMGP5432 
> from the K-2 becomes K3-05432
> 
> Part of the reason for this is the default for Pentax Raw files is 
> "IMGP" and a couple of my cameras have rolled over past  and the 
> K-1 numbering was reset when I had to send it in for repair after I fell 
> & yanked the screen off the back.
> 
> So it's K10D-1, K20D-0, K-3-0 & K-1-1 ... I pretty much 
> kept up with it WHILE I was downloading images from the camera up until 
> Covid (when I got lazy and sometimes wouldn't download the images for 
> months after I took them)
> 
> ANYWAY - The K-3 has been giving me fits downloading images today. Adobe 
> Bridge "get media" seems to fail after pulling down about 8 images. I'm 
> having the same problem directly copying from the card to the computer - 
> 8 images & an error.
> 
> When the error comes Windoze says the DCIM folder is empty & can't even 
> see the card to eject it. If I just pull the card reader out & plug it 
> in again the sub-folders are still there in DCIM and I can go into the 
> sub-folder and copy images manually ... but if I select more than 8 at a 
> time it's going to have the same error copying.
> 
> If I just select 8 images they seem to copy fine and then I can select 8 
> more and they'll copy, but rarely works for a third batch of 8. Repeat 
> remove & reinsert & select the next 8 ...
> 
> I only had the problem with the K-3 cards - 2-32GB Sandisk Extreme SDHC 
> and 1-32GB Sandisk Ultra SDXC.
> 
> I'm pretty sure I only lost a single image to corruption. Sucks, but at 
> least it's not worse. I copied all the images over to my file server.
> 
> I don't know if it's the camera, the cards, the card reader or the 
> computer. I hope it's not the computer because it's Windows 7 & 
> Photoshop CS6 Extended (which I don't think will run on Windoze 10 & 
> Windoze 10 definitely would not install on this computer (I shall not 
> repeat my previous rant about the attempt to install Windows 10 ...)
> 
> I'll shut the Photoshop computer down tomorrow, open it up & give it a 
> good cleaning inside & see where we go from here.
> 
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Re: Another lightroom redo

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I don't disagree with the overspiced evaluation but the other doesn't even have 
salt and pepper.  Definitely more on the foreground but not so much as the 
before image, which does seem to have an artefact at the junction of land and 
sky.  The sky is possibly better in the new version (in that it is more 
realistic - I don't know, as I was not there) but that is arguably a matter of 
taste.
> On 16/02/2024 18:00 GMT Larry Colen  w rote:
> 
>  
> Interesting.  Thank you people.  I had felt that in general the first version 
> was a bit "over spiced".  I'm trying to find the right balance between making 
> the image pop, and overdoing it.  If you look at other photos in the 
> collection, there is a lot of light pollution close to the horizon, and when 
> saturation and vibrance are dialed up a lot of swatches of green and magenta 
> noise in the sky in general.  
> 
> The new version of lightroom does make it easier for me to duplicate and 
> modify masks, so when I get a chance, I can try a version with more 
> saturation, contrast and clarity in the milky way. 
> 
> Is there consensus that I should also bring up the exposure on the 
> foreground?  I did create a mask for the snow on mount Shasta, which I had 
> dialed down a bit from the previous print.
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> > On Feb 16, 2024, at 9:09 AM, Paul Sorenson  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > I'd have to agree with Mike - the 889-pano is more pleasing to me than 
> > NR-HDR-Pano.  The milky way is better rendered and being able to better see 
> > the horizon and landscape add to be overall image.
> > 
> > -p
> > 
> > 
> > 89888-Enhanced-NR-HDR-Pano
> > 
> > On 2/16/2024 2:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >> I decided to have a go at another one of my photos, trying to take 
> >> advantage of new features in lightroom.  It is an HDR panorama (at 15 and 
> >> 20 seconds).  For the new version I did a lightroom noise reduction of 
> >> each of the frames before doing an HDR pano stitch.
> >> 
> >> I believe this is my previous version that I used for printing:
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30524911188/in/album-72177720314781277/
> >> 
> >> This one is my current "best try":
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53532544424/in/album-72177720314781277/
> >> I've learned a fair bit about using masks in the process.
> >> 
> >> All of my processing attempts over the years are in this album:
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720314781277/with/42907311702
> >> 
> >> I would appreciate people's thoughts about what improvements the 
> >> processing might need.  Is there anything about any of the older attempts 
> >> that worked better?
> >> 
> >>  Thanks,
> >>Larry
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> >> l...@red4est.com.   sent from Mirkwood
> >> 
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Re: Another lightroom redo

[mike wilson]

Are you sure you got those the right way round?  For me, the previous attempt 
is head and shoulders better than the present version.

> On 16/02/2024 08:28 GMT Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>  
> I decided to have a go at another one of my photos, trying to take advantage 
> of new features in lightroom.  It is an HDR panorama (at 15 and 20 seconds).  
> For the new version I did a lightroom noise reduction of each of the frames 
> before doing an HDR pano stitch.  
> 
> I believe this is my previous version that I used for printing:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30524911188/in/album-72177720314781277/
> 
> This one is my current "best try":
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53532544424/in/album-72177720314781277/
> I've learned a fair bit about using masks in the process.
> 
> All of my processing attempts over the years are in this album:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720314781277/with/42907311702
> 
> I would appreciate people's thoughts about what improvements the processing 
> might need.  Is there anything about any of the older attempts that worked 
> better?
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Re: P30?

[mike wilson]

 P3n 
> On 03/02/2024 13:10 GMT Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
>  
> Could be. Its variant the P30n, by the way, is the famed Pentax "Ned".
> 
> Feb 3, 2024 4:57:28 AM Bob W PDML :
> 
> > https://www.instagram.com/p/C24TyRFNwjY/?igsh=MXJkcTNnd3VlMTBkOQ==
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Re: PESO night tracks

[mike wilson]

Assuming capable equipment (and, even then) contre jour is rarely other 
than a winner.
> On 30/01/2024 07:54 GMT Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>  
> I almost got home from the ride before it was totally dark, but had to stop 
> and shoot the sunset
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53496430107/in/album-72177720314445521/
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Re: Impressed again

[mike wilson]

I had the luck to be loaned one for about 9 months by Denis Klimovich.  Made 
some of my (technically) best pictures with it.  Considering the use it got 
(-25degreesC, covered in snow then condensation, lugged around various crowded 
venues, etc) it's pretty robust as well.

> On 19/01/2024 01:38 GMT Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
>  
> During our recent trip to Amsterdam and Bruges (got home on Monday) I
> used just one lens the whole time: The old FA*28-70 f/2.8 (on the
> K-1). And having looked through most of the images I'm stunned once
> again at how good a lens that is.
>
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OT Not quite astro stuff

[mike wilson]

I'm wondering why the EV/screen failed...
 
https://youtu.be/SxkA82wORtw?si=QqvpvOW8eOgOi9XX
 
 
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Re: I'm back

[mike wilson]

And the same to you.  And everyone else.
> On 31/12/2023 17:08 GMT Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
>  
> Companies like GMX are fine while everything works, but heaven help us 
> if it doesn't. They're unreachable and if yousicceed in contacting the 
> they won't reply.
> 
> So, I've given up on them and I'm back with a new account. Just im time 
> to wish you alle the best for the new year.
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Re: First camera case

[mike wilson]

No padding over the top of everything?
> On 11/12/2023 05:20 GMT Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>  
> A couple of weeks back I was nattering about wanting a better case for 
> storing my gear, and carrying it in my car on a trip.
> 
> I just finished the first case, for the majority of my full frame glass and 
> the K-1.  I made it with a $30 case from Home Depot (I already had a bunch of 
> cases in this system), and about $20 worth of Kaizen foam.
> 
> It's not a $300 Pelican case, but it's a lot more protective and water 
> resistant than carrying everything in bags.
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/EvxT6cztCbKZsHCA8
> 
> I photographed the whole build process.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/1JTA4jxGw4mniNQX9
> 
> And, yes, I know that a couple  of y'all aren't fans of google photos, sorry 
> about that, but I just don't have the time and energy to come up with a plan 
> B.
> 
> Things would have worked better if I had hole saws with finer teeth.  Oh well.
>
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Re: Let's test the list!

[mike wilson]

Not horrendously expensive here, as long as your consumer unit (fusebox) has 
room for it.  Cartridge types (a base that fits the rail in the unit with a 
replaceable active part) vary from about £30 to £150.  No more than an hour's 
work for the sparky to fit it.  Using surge protector plugs on everything would 
easily cost us that.
> On 09/12/2023 17:24 GMT Alan Cole  wrote:
> 
>  
> In SA with up to 8 hours Load Shedding per day & subsequent switch on
> surges, the insurance claims have skyrocketed. Mostly TV's, Fridges &
> Aircons. The insurance companies have now "eliminated" their risk by
> insisting on a surge protector fitted to the DB by a certified electrician.
> Too expensive for most of us so we now have individual surge plugs on
> sensitive appliances.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 10:41 AM mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> > Surge protectors are mandatory on new installs in the UK, now, probably
> > because of the poor state of the supply infrastructure.  We had three
> > failures last year (with accompanying surges) alone.  None so far this
> > year, surprisingly.
> > > On 07/12/2023 22:48 GMT Rick Womer  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know about the server gods, but some gods somewhere weren't happy
> > > with my photo computer .
> > >
> > > On the night of November 13 it seems that our house had a massive power
> > > surge. The victims were (1) my photo computer setup, consisting of a Mac
> > > Mini and two on-line OWC hard drives. A few days later we learned that
> > the
> > > control circuit board and some of the wiring for our house's minisplit
> > > AC/heating system were partially melted (we are now using our hot water
> > > heating system).
> > >
> > > We're waiting for a new circuit board and valves for the minisplit
> > system,
> > > and I've been chipping away at the computer problems. The OS on the Mac
> > > needs replacing, and both external drives have media and file system
> > errors
> > > on Disk Utility which are making them flaky.
> > >
> > > So, in the midst of other activities, I've been chipping away at the
> > > problem. I'm shifting files from two other external hard drives (which
> > > aren't in daily use) so that I can shift my files off the damaged drives
> > > and reformat them.
> > >
> > > Then I'll be able to transfer a bunch of files, reformat the external
> > > drives they were on, transfer files back, and hope that Lightroom
> > > cooperates in getting everything accessible.
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Re: Let's test the list!

[mike wilson]

Surge protectors are mandatory on new installs in the UK, now, probably because 
of the poor state of the supply infrastructure.  We had three failures last 
year (with accompanying surges) alone.  None so far this year, surprisingly.
> On 07/12/2023 22:48 GMT Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
>  
> I don't know about the server gods, but some gods somewhere weren't happy
> with my photo computer .
> 
> On the night of November 13 it seems that our house had a massive power
> surge. The victims were (1) my photo computer setup, consisting of a Mac
> Mini and two on-line OWC hard drives. A few days later we learned that the
> control circuit board and some of the wiring for our house's minisplit
> AC/heating system were partially melted (we are now using our hot water
> heating system).
> 
> We're waiting for a new circuit board and valves for the minisplit system,
> and I've been chipping away at the computer problems. The OS on the Mac
> needs replacing, and both external drives have media and file system errors
> on Disk Utility which are making them flaky.
> 
> So, in the midst of other activities, I've been chipping away at the
> problem. I'm shifting files from two other external hard drives (which
> aren't in daily use) so that I can shift my files off the damaged drives
> and reformat them.
> 
> Then I'll be able to transfer a bunch of files, reformat the external
> drives they were on, transfer files back, and hope that Lightroom
> cooperates in getting everything accessible.
> 
>
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Re: Let's test the list!

[mike wilson]

Neither inbox nor spam here.
> On 06/12/2023 12:40 GMT ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
>  
> I replied but did not see my reply come up in my PDML inbox..  only in 
> my sent folder.
> Just made my usual wiseass Jokey reply.. did it get through?
> 
> I saw the email below of course and all the asnwer to it but mine
> I think my Thunderbird update may be responsible
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 12/5/2023 2:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> > Are the Server God's happy?
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Re: Let's test the list!

[mike wilson]

Server Gods might be happy - the hard drive on my desktop definitely is not.  
Unless Loki has been out to play.
> On 05/12/2023 19:27 GMT Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
>  
> Are the Server God's happy?
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Re: Rock 'n Roll, Rush and Pentax

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Rock'n'roll r us!  (Makes devil's horn sign with fingers and hangs tongue down 
chin without really knowing why)
> On 30/11/2023 00:27 GMT Postmaster  wrote:
> 
>  
> Around the 1:24 :-)
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIAcVSSHJgc
> 
>
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Re: PESO Another Cobra Pic

[mike wilson]

Much better than the usual steroidal, lumpen mess.  Perfect focus on the badge, 
with (coincidentally?) nice, sharp, tyre treads.  Smooth, uncluttered 
background.  We have come to expect nothing less...

> On 29/11/2023 14:28 GMT paul stenquist  wrote:
> 
>  
> Another pic from last week’s shoot of a genuine ’64 Cobra. This car is 
> numbers matching and unmolested. It was never raced and has only had two 
> owners. It’s among the world’s best examples of a Mark II Cobra. K-1 with D 
> FA 150-450, f5.6, 300mm
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/myonlwtx6jrspwo7wft7c/cobra8.jpg?rlkey=wruirumzc2t613qw4qo2x17pt=0
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Re: PESO: Hélène

[mike wilson]

No wonder she can't fly.
> On 21/11/2023 07:31 GMT Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
>  
> Lunched a thousand chips, I think.
> 
> > On 20 Nov 2023, at 21:54, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > 
> > It's a lovely photo.  Is it a reference to "launching a thousand ships"?
> > 
> >> On Nov 20, 2023, at 12:21 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Very Clever!
> >> 
> >> Alan C
> >> 
> >>> On 20-Nov-23 01:30 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> >>> ...on her favourite bollard in the port of Boulogne. There, she has
> >>> everything in sight, especially the chip shop on the other side, just in
> >>> case somehone might drop something.
> >>> 
> >>> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/helene-fotoralfbe/47872402
> >>> 
> >>> Enjoy
> >>> Ralf
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Re: PUG themes for 2014

[mike wilson]

Best of..
Blur
Fungi
> On 18/11/2023 09:36 GMT bria...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
> 
>  
> Here's a list of suggested themes.  Please pick your LEAST favoured 
> ones.
> 
> Up Close
> Circular
> On reflection
> Still Life
> Best of 2023
> Roots
> Abstract
> Long Exposure
> Bridges
> Blur
> On four legs
> Ice
> Marine Life
> Fungi
> Framed
> My Favourite Place
> Urban Life
> Repetition
> Sailing
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Re: Stabilized Eclipse Video

[mike wilson]

Interesting that you didn't get any level of "diamond ring" effect.  I'm not 
sure what that indicates.

> On 16/11/2023 01:36 GMT John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
>  
> https://flic.kr/p/2pg1zWk
> 
> Wasn't as difficult as I thought it was going to be. One of my schemes 
> actually worked which smoothed production immensely.
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Re: Computers! Aargh!

[mike wilson]

> On 15/11/2023 02:28 GMT Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
>  
> I’ve accumulated a lot of photos recently, from travel and walks through 
> groves of autumn color.
> 
> Today I sat down to post some. But…
> 
> When I launched Lightroom the window that should have displayed the photos 
> was blank. Both my primary and secondary external hard drives had errors that 
> Disk Utility couldn’t fix. I have no idea why.
> 
> Not sure how to approach this yet, but I will likely spend several more hours 
> sorting things out.
> 
> Sometimes I really miss film, a light box, and a loupe.

I feel your pain.  I lost about four years' work due to a hardware failure 
(exacerbated by my own stupidity) and have hardly picked up a camera since.
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Re: test 1 - godfreydigio...@me.com

[mike wilson]

Only about 4-5 members get dumped in SPAM, including myself.  Have tired all 
ways of whitelisting and suchlike but no luck.  It's clearly something outside 
my control.  I suspect it might be because the addresses have been spoofed at 
some time.  I know mine has because I used to get quite a few offers for blue 
pills from myself.

> On 11/11/2023 17:33 GMT Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
>  
> Thanks mike. Shows that this is the email address that gets through, even if 
> Mail puts it into the spam folder … like it does for 80% of all the active 
> PDML posts. Wish I knew the cause of that… it's a PITA. 
> 
> G
> 
> > On Nov 11, 2023, at 8:56 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > No, you're in my SPAM folder, as usual...
> > 
> >> On 11/11/2023 16:49 GMT Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> replies and messages I've sent don't seem to be getting to the list. I'm 
> >> testing both my email addresses to see if either of these get there. 
> >> 
> >> G
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Re: test 1 - godfreydigio...@me.com

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No, you're in my SPAM folder, as usual...

> On 11/11/2023 16:49 GMT Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
>  
> replies and messages I've sent don't seem to be getting to the list. I'm 
> testing both my email addresses to see if either of these get there. 
> 
> G
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Re: PESO 2023 - Walking (262-268) - GDG

[mike wilson]

What about the Swarfega?

> On 08/10/2023 16:24 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
>  
> Okay okay, you can wear your Superman cape and that neoprene balaclava.
> 
> Cot
> 
> > On 5 Oct 2023, at 14:20, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> > 
> > I dunno about the macintosh and trilby, but the rest works for me! :-)
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Re: On the Road Again ...

[mike wilson]

Loads to do in Albuquerque.  Just ask Al.

https://youtu.be/JE37e1eK2mY?si=DtTgIth_dQ5RdekE

> On 07/10/2023 00:52 John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
>  
> I've made reservations. Confirmed reservations.
> 
> I intend to be in Albuquerque a week from Saturday (14 Oct)
> 
> ... and this time I've ALREADY made sure I have the instructions in the 
> glove box. Put a copy in there a few minutes ago.
> 
> After that? Maybe I should turn left or something ... I'm sure I can 
> find SOMETHING out there worth taking a photo of.
> 
> Also, already double checking cameras, tripods, astro-tracker ... 
> charging up batteries in advance, cleaning lenses ... made damn sure I 
> have my filters.
> 
> Double checked what time the clinics at the VA open so I can stop by 
> there on the way out of town & get my flu shot and Covid booster.
> 
> On the road again,
> Just can't wait to get on the road again,
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Re: Salzburg to Prague

[mike wilson]

Google maps says "Cycling not available" 8 -) but the walking route has a total 
rise of just under 3000metres and a fall of just over, taking three days.  Good 
luck and have fun.  Don't forget the Narodni Technicke Muzeum - not the one on 
Wilsonova street.

> On 24/08/2023 01:23 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
>  
> We're off to Austria tomorrow, doing a bicycle trip that starts from
> Salzburg and ends up in Prague. It shouldn't be a very strenuous trip,
> as they're saying 36 miles is the most we'll be covering in a day, so
> that ought to leave plenty of time for some photography.
> 
> Photos to follow!
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Re: Fwd: PESO: Spring is Sprung

[mike wilson]

All three getting through fine here.

> On 22/08/2023 09:54 Alan C  wrote:
> 
>  
> Trying again
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:  PESO: Spring is Sprung
> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 08:06:46 +0200
> From: Alan C 
> To:   Pentax Discus Mail List 
> 
> 
> 
> An early morning snap of the Knoppiesdoorn (Knob-thorn  - Acacia 
> Nigrescens) tree on our corner. Always the first harbinger of Spring 
> right on the Equinox. The Hueglin's Robin has been kicking up a racket 
> since 3am.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/53132973417/
> 
> K5 & HD 55-300
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Re: Australia - Brisbane and Perth

[mike wilson]

>From the one Perther on the board:
"Don't know about B film. Perth is amazingly unphotogenic. It is not a city 
of great character or charisma. Fremantle is way more interesting, and perhaps 
it qualifies, seeing that it is more or less attached to Perth. There is an 
amazing lack of interesting architecture in Perth. Fremantle has the convict 
era stuff which has merit. I can't think of any particular advice I could offer 
anyone, but am happy if you want to put your friend in touch.

Somewhere back in the Tag thread I may have put up some pics of the old railway 
workshops and brickworks, all of which are being preserved. I find "industrial 
archeology" to be of photogenic significance, but with almost everything being 
less than 200 years old, there's not a lot of choice. There's an awful lot of 
concrete and corrugated iron here, and some bizarre recent modernistic 
footbridges and stadiums that attract attention by controversy rather than 
merit."

Do you want me to pass your email over?

> On 12/08/2023 08:15 pkn291...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>  
> I am planning a trip to Australia end of October. It is a family visit trip
> so not much photography time other than family photo's. Any suggestions of
> places to visit in two area's and surroundings if I get a chance? Any places
> where I can buy black and white film or should I take enough with me. Will
> probably take the K3 and a mz5n.
> 
> Thanks for any input
> 
> Patrick
> 
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Re: Australia - Brisbane and Perth

[mike wilson]

I made enquiries amonst those I know in the antipodes and this is the sole 
response so far:
"I'm in BrisVegas, outer suburb, but cannot think of one place i would tell a 
visitor "you must go see".  He could have a Miami-ish experience if he wants to 
go to the Gold Coast, just down the road"

> On 12/08/2023 08:15 pkn291...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>  
> I am planning a trip to Australia end of October. It is a family visit trip
> so not much photography time other than family photo's. Any suggestions of
> places to visit in two area's and surroundings if I get a chance? Any places
> where I can buy black and white film or should I take enough with me. Will
> probably take the K3 and a mz5n.
> 
> Thanks for any input
> 
> Patrick
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Re: GESO March recon vol. 1

[mike wilson]

> On 03/08/2023 22:52 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
>  
> mike wilson wrote:
> 
> >Two ways  On the 23, there is a vertical fin under the fuselage at the tail. 
> > 
> >Not visible in your pic.  The elevator surfaces extend beyond the jet pipe 
> >on the 27, which does seem to be the case.  There is also a slight 
> >difference 
> >in the air intakes, not discernable here.  Otherwise, they are almost 
> >identical externally.
> 
> If you're into jet plane geekery you might enjoy this fellow's stuff
> on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCQbBfie3ZA

That was entertaining...
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Re: GESO March recon vol. 1

[mike wilson]

> On 04/08/2023 05:50 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>  
> > On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:25 PM, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > Two ways  On the 23, there is a vertical fin under the fuselage at the 
> > tail.  Not visible in your pic.  The elevator surfaces extend beyond the 
> > jet pipe on the 27, which does seem to be the case.  There is also a slight 
> > difference in the air intakes, not discernable here.  Otherwise, they are 
> > almost identical externally.
> 
> There was a third way to tell, do a google search on "March Air Museum  MIG23"
> 
> https://www.marchfield.org/aircraft/fighter/mig-23bn-flogger-mikoyan-gurevich/
> 
Like the man in orthopaedic shoes, I stand corrected.  But no fair modifying a 
23 with most of the bits of a 27 and still calling it a 23.
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Re: GESO March recon vol. 1

[mike wilson]

Two ways  On the 23, there is a vertical fin under the fuselage at the tail.  
Not visible in your pic.  The elevator surfaces extend beyond the jet pipe on 
the 27, which does seem to be the case.  There is also a slight difference in 
the air intakes, not discernable here.  Otherwise, they are almost identical 
externally.
> On 03/08/2023 17:48 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>  
> > On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:25 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > 614 is a Mig 27
> 
> Thanks, someone else ID'd it as a 23.  How to tell the diff?
> Other than going back and getting better photos next time...
> > 
> > The rest seem likely to be trainers, including the twin engined one.
> >> On 03/08/2023 08:53 Larry Colen  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Last weekend my friend Candice and visited the museum at March Air Base. 
> >> Since it's only a few miles away, I treated it as a recon run and tried to 
> >> get a couple photos of each plane, just to catalog them for my reference.  
> >> It turns out that there are a lot of airplanes there.  
> >> 
> >> This album is fighters, attack planes, trainers, observation & recon and 
> >> related.  
> >> 
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720310220971
> >> 
> >> We did luck out and the skies cooperated, so some of the photos actually 
> >> turned out pretty nice.
> >> 
> >> I had my 18-270 on the K-3iii and my Irix 11/4 on my K-1.  In retrospect I 
> >> would have been better off with the 15-30 on the K-1, though it was rather 
> >> fun shooting with the superwide and just needing to remember to adjust the 
> >> hyperfocal distance. 
> >> 
> >> In honor of Dan, I started off with the F4s.  
> >> 
> >> I was able to ID most of the planes in this album.  Some unidentified ones 
> >> are:
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090853715/in/album-72177720310220971/
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090454441/in/album-72177720310220971/
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090639979/in/album-72177720310220971/
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090640614/in/album-72177720310220971/
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53089892077/in/album-72177720310220971/
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090950523/in/album-72177720310220971/
> >> 
> >> I hope that you enjoy them.
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Re: GESO March recon vol. 1

[mike wilson]

I did wonder if that was a Skyraider.  It just looks so petite in the picture.  
> On 03/08/2023 16:08 Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> 
>  
> Larry - Mike already identified 614, so here goes on the rest..
> 
> 715 - North American T-28
> 441 - Beechcraft T-34
> 979 - Another T-34
> 077 - Douglas A-1 Skyraider
> 523 - Beechcraft 18 (commonly called a Twin Beech)
> 
> Enjoyed the airplane pix.  
> 
> -p
> 
> On 8/3/2023 2:53 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> > Last weekend my friend Candice and visited the museum at March Air Base. 
> > Since it's only a few miles away, I treated it as a recon run and tried to 
> > get a couple photos of each plane, just to catalog them for my reference.  
> > It turns out that there are a lot of airplanes there.
> >
> > This album is fighters, attack planes, trainers, observation & recon and 
> > related.
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720310220971
> >
> > We did luck out and the skies cooperated, so some of the photos actually 
> > turned out pretty nice.
> >
> > I had my 18-270 on the K-3iii and my Irix 11/4 on my K-1.  In retrospect I 
> > would have been better off with the 15-30 on the K-1, though it was rather 
> > fun shooting with the superwide and just needing to remember to adjust the 
> > hyperfocal distance.
> >
> > In honor of Dan, I started off with the F4s.
> >
> > I was able to ID most of the planes in this album.  Some unidentified ones 
> > are:
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090853715/in/album-72177720310220971/
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090454441/in/album-72177720310220971/
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090639979/in/album-72177720310220971/
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090640614/in/album-72177720310220971/
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53089892077/in/album-72177720310220971/
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090950523/in/album-72177720310220971/
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Re: GESO March recon vol. 1

[mike wilson]

614 is a Mig 27

The rest seem likely to be trainers, including the twin engined one.
> On 03/08/2023 08:53 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>  
> Last weekend my friend Candice and visited the museum at March Air Base. 
> Since it's only a few miles away, I treated it as a recon run and tried to 
> get a couple photos of each plane, just to catalog them for my reference.  It 
> turns out that there are a lot of airplanes there.  
> 
> This album is fighters, attack planes, trainers, observation & recon and 
> related.  
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720310220971
> 
> We did luck out and the skies cooperated, so some of the photos actually 
> turned out pretty nice.
> 
> I had my 18-270 on the K-3iii and my Irix 11/4 on my K-1.  In retrospect I 
> would have been better off with the 15-30 on the K-1, though it was rather 
> fun shooting with the superwide and just needing to remember to adjust the 
> hyperfocal distance. 
> 
> In honor of Dan, I started off with the F4s.  
> 
> I was able to ID most of the planes in this album.  Some unidentified ones 
> are:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090853715/in/album-72177720310220971/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090454441/in/album-72177720310220971/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090639979/in/album-72177720310220971/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090640614/in/album-72177720310220971/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53089892077/in/album-72177720310220971/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53090950523/in/album-72177720310220971/
> 
> I hope that you enjoy them.
> --
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> 
> 
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Re: LrC and travel

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Snap!  We're just sooo last millenuim.
> On 27/07/2023 07:19 Alan C  wrote:
> 
>  
> I don't take anything & wait till I get back home!
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On 27-Jul-23 07:28 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> > I simplify for travel: I don't use LR Mobile, or cloud-based LR.
> >
> > When traveling, I'm using my iPads or iPhone. For the little I want to do 
> > in rendering when traveling, I use Photos+RAW Power, Snapseed, or Affinity 
> > Photo. Anything I do on the devices locally gets imported into LR Classic 
> > at home.
> >
> > G
> > —
> > Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com - 408-431-4601
> >
> >> On Jul 26, 2023, at 2:20 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> What I have run into is the following:
> >> 1. Load images from an SD card onto my iPad.
> >> 2. Open in LR Mobile, (with no internet, with synch paused).
> >> 3. Select/edit 3-4 images.
> >> 4. Attempt to export/share those images to another app. E.g. WordPress.
> >> 5. LR says “cannot complete. No internet connection. Images not synched.” 
> >> Or words to that effect.
> >>
> >> I do not want to synch my images to Adobe Cloud, I just want to manage my 
> >> backing up and exporting/sharing on my own.
> >>
> >> I tried on one trip, based in part on your positive experience Bob. I used 
> >> the Adobe system, created albums of 4-6 images, retrieved the web address, 
> >> shared those albums via WordPress entries. OK so far. But then I got home, 
> >> tried to put all the images from the trip on my local storage directly 
> >> from SD cards, merging with downloads of the ones I had shared already, 
> >> and wound up with a confusing mess.
> >>
> >> The Cloud-based approach is ok if that is all you use, if you always or 
> >> usually have a robust connection to the net. I have found it too 
> >> complicated to use in alternation with LR Classic. As I said earlier, I 
> >> will give it another try just because I really really want to leave the 
> >> laptop home on this next trip. Even though I distrust and dislike the 
> >> app’s constant attempts to use limited bandwidth. We’ll see…
> >>
> >> Stan
> >>
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Re: Anybody like to ID spiders

[mike wilson]

Black ones seem to be Latrodectus hesperus, the western black widow.  The other 
is likely Laterodectus geometricus, the brown widow.  The latter is less deadly 
and has a much greater range.  Newly established in southern California.
> On 25/07/2023 18:35 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>  
> I'm pretty confident that the first one is a black widow, but I'm not so sure 
> about the ones with the striped legs:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720310015924
> 
> 
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Re: IR Photography

[mike wilson]

> On 14/07/2023 01:29 Larry Colen  wrote:
> Last night I had a chance to come home to get my miata, I was hoping to have 
> time to cut it up into pieces to mail to anybody that might want some, 

That's very generous of you.  I'll have a think about what I can afford postage 
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Re: OnT: Grey Matter Exercise

[mike wilson]

Shouldn't the first one have a question mark after it?

> On 25/06/2023 19:50 Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
>  
> Too easy. 
> 
> I have two favourite cryptic crossword clues, neither is difficult, but I 
> like them.
> 
> One that my housemaster told me when I was about 12 and he was explaining 
> what cryptic crosswords are:
> 
> Gegs (9, 4)
> 
> And another which I saw on a book cover:
> 
> Two girls, one on each knee (7)
> 
> 
> 
> > On 25 Jun 2023, at 20:43, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> > 
> > Cormorant …
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> >> On Jun 25, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Crossword clue:
> >> 
> >> Large diving bird from cold, wild moor and tarn. (9).
> >> 
> >> Alan C
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Re: Shooting in smoke

[mike wilson]

Also curious about the before.

> On 09/06/2023 23:53 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>  
> > On Jun 9, 2023, at 3:46 PM, Comcast  wrote:
> > 
> > The weather looked decent today although I think our air quality number was 
> > still around 150, so I shot a car that I had to cover for an editorial 
> > assignment. I was not happy with the long lens shots. There was definitely 
> > visible haze between lens and subject. Fortunately, Photoshop’s new haze 
> > filter sufficiently eliminated it to make the pics useable. I’m pleased and 
> > impressed.
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/fwtj93cezl58ize/Mustang%202.lowres.jpg?dl=0
> 
> It looks nice, both the photo and the car.
> 
> Now I'm a bit curious about the "before"
> 
> Rollbar, no cage, and numbers.  Drag racer?
> 
> > 
> > Paul
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Re: June PUG is up

[mike wilson]

Good to see Malcolm back in circulation.  And Anne's editor needed permanently 
planting themself.  Thanks for the work, Brian.

> On 08/06/2023 12:24 Brian W  wrote:
> 
>  
> G'day all
> 
> Enjoy the new gallery here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
> 
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
> let me know.
> 
> +
> 
> Next up: 'By the Shore'
> 
> Full Submissions Guidelines are here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> 
> You can submit here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> 
> Cheers
> Brian
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OT: technology and the photography industry

[mike wilson]

 This guy has a number of presentations depicting how digital technology has 
changed many aspects of industry.  Quite a few of them are about photography 
and, particularly, Kodak.  They can be viewed online or downloaded. 



 https://www.slideshare.net/Christiansandstrom/presentations 
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Re: PDML-UK Part 2

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> On 28/05/2023 13:29 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
>  
> > On 26 May 2023, at 19:48, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> > 
> >> On May 26, 2023 8:38:36 AM PDT, mike wilson  >> <mailto:m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com>> wrote:
> >>>> On 26/05/2023 16:15 Steve Cottrell  >>>> <mailto:co...@seeingeye.tv>> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>  
> >>>>>>>>> Never mind. My brother recently informed me I'm also a "rat bastard"
> >>>>>>>>> after I showed him the bass guitar I bought recently. ;-)
> >>>>>>>> Don’t fret.
> >>>>>>> You’re a nut.
> >>>>>> I'm not nutty enough to play an Irish Bouzouki, though!
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> A bridge too far.
> >>>> Sticking your neck out again...
> >>> Not like I'll get strung up over it.
> >> This is turning into a noteworthy thread.
> >> 
> >> 
> > just pluck it
> 
> Don’t saddle me with you troubles!
> --

You can't possibly be so rude as to be telling Anne to shut her soundhole...
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Re: GESO: Our just-completed Pennine Way walk

[mike wilson]

Clever shot of Crag Lough through the hole in the wall.  And Ultra-Tommi does 
not look the way I was expecting at all...

> On 26/05/2023 20:43 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
>  
> Finishing up (finally) in Scotland a couple of weeks ago.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/166715344@N04/albums/72177720308386495
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Re: GESO: Our just-completed Pennine Way walk

[mike wilson]

It's famous enough (Hollywood movie, no less) without it getting into PUG as 
well.
> On 26/05/2023 21:10 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
>  
> Great set!
> ... too bad your solo tree didn't make it to the PUG for May, lousy 
> sense of timing, that.
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 5/26/2023 3:43 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> > Finishing up (finally) in Scotland a couple of weeks ago.
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/166715344@N04/albums/72177720308386495
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Re: PDML-UK Part 2

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> On 26/05/2023 16:15 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
>  
> > 
> > 
> > Never mind. My brother recently informed me I'm also a "rat bastard"
> > after I showed him the bass guitar I bought recently. ;-)
> >>> 
>  Don’t fret.
> >>> 
> >>> You’re a nut.
> >> 
> >> I'm not nutty enough to play an Irish Bouzouki, though!
> >> 
> > A bridge too far.
> 
> Sticking your neck out again...

Not like I'll get strung up over it.
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Re: Satellite Lens!

[mike wilson]

Surprisingly low (5mx5m) resolution.  Must be a long way out.

> On 24/05/2023 15:39 Alan C  wrote:
> 
>  
> https://petapixel.com/2022/03/14/ricoh-installs-modified-300mm-f4-lens-on-japans-kitsune-satellite/?fbclid=IwAR0mq3UlLvUh5mFpBGfACX37YL-4PEnSH5H3bDaW3OArmGZlUNzoovzqJbw
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Re: PDML-UK Part 2

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> On 24/05/2023 17:13 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
>  
> Steve Cottrell wrote:
> 
> >>> Never mind. My brother recently informed me I'm also a "rat bastard"
> >>> after I showed him the bass guitar I bought recently. ;-)
> >
> >> Don’t fret.
> >
> >You’re a nut.
> 
> I'm not nutty enough to play an Irish Bouzouki, though!
>  
A bridge too far.
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Re: PDML-UK Part 2

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Thought you were leaving today?
> On 22/05/2023 21:35 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
>  
> Doug Brewer wrote:
> 
> >wait a sec. I'm reasonably certain my parents were married when they 
> >found me.
> 
> Sorry. I'm still on Lindisfarne so I suppose you should be a "Scurvy
> Dog" then? I can never keep these things straight.
>  
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Re: PDML-UK Part 2

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An excellent morning indeed.  Good company, good weather and unlimited and 
unexpurgated bitching.  What more could a chap want?  Although I don't remember 
it was Doug we were calling a bastard...

Well done on finishing what is a tough route at the best of times.  About 20 
years ago, a Russian friend turned up to do about 12 miles of it wearing a 
blazer, slacks and ordinary shoes.  Because the weather was good and he was 
used to walking in the taiga, real hard going.  Then the weather turned 
argumentative.  Luckily I had foreseen this possibility from previous 
conversations, so I had brought extra suitable clothing. He still looked like a 
drowned rat at the end.  

> On 20/05/2023 13:43 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
>  
> We met up with Mike Wilson and Cath this morning for a walk around
> Lindisfarne. Great to catch up and to talk about everyone else on the
> PDML behind their backs. Especially that bastard Doug Brewer ;-)
> I still haven't had time to really go through any of the photos I've
> taken so far. I'll try to post some soon but despite the best of
> intentions it may not happen till we get back to the States.
> Then I'll have to act fast because the Grandfather Mountain Nature
> Photography Weekend is coming up fast...
> 
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Re: Life Update:

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I moved one house along last year.  Utter, utter purgatory.  Good luck, John.  
You're going to need it.

> On 13/05/2023 05:55 Alan C  wrote:
> 
>  
> You know, it doesn't have to be. A good friend of mine in Phalaborwa has 
> recently retired from Palabora Mining Company with 40 years service.  He 
> & his wife decided to move to the Eastern Cape. They did their homework 
> & planned to sell everything apart from personal & special items & buy 
> new at the other end, saving astronomical transport costs. They were 
> miraculously able to sell their furnished house, boat, bakkie & 
> motocycle in a few days, all for cash, & are staying in rented 
> accommodation for a couple on months until their new unit in a secure 
> complex is ready for occupation. While this may be very exceptional, it 
> shows what can be done to ease the pain.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On 13-May-23 02:44 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
> > Moving is agony.  We’ve been fortunate in not doing it in 37 years.
> >
> > May the Force be with you!
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 20:05 Comcast  wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds good. Your work will pay off. I’ve been there. Congratulations!.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>> On May 12, 2023, at 5:33 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Things are looking up. I've found a house, made an offer & it has been
> >> accepted.
> >>> My closing date for this house (the day I get the money from my buyer)
> >> is May 31.
> >>> My closing date for the new house (the day I have to give THEM the
> >> money) is June 1.
> >>> If I can get my buyer to agree I will stay in my old house until June 2
> >> & move directly into the new house. I've ordered one of those PODS
> >> containers to facilitate the move.
> >>> But that means I got to get back to work now boxing stuff up & getting
> >> it ready to go into the POD (or into storage - I already have two rental
> >> units, one I've filled and another that's half full.
> >>> I think I may actually make my deadlines. Wish me luck.
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Re: RIP Dan Matyola

[mike wilson]

Thanks for letting us know.  Too many have just disappeared.  I had some good 
chats with Dan about his central European heritage.

> On 11/05/2023 00:27 Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
>  
> Facebook alerted me today of messages about the passing of Dan
> Matyola, May 2, 2023, at 81 years of age.
> 
> I'm only a "FB friend" but we've chatted a bunch since I joined the
> list and I know he was a very long time PDML member. His last reply to
> the list was also May 2, amazingly.
> 
> I located a link to his obit:
> https://www.cusickfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Daniel-Matyola?obId=27875827
> 
> His FB profiles -- which his cousin has been adding updates to -- is here:
> https://www.facebook.com/daniel.j.matyola
> https://www.facebook.com/dan.matyola
> 
> I liked Dan and I know he was a steadfast PDML contributor. He'll be missed.
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Re: Peso - one more lonely tree not submitted for May PUG

[mike wilson]

That's better - a tree's not a tree without a cormorant.
> On 01/05/2023 14:01 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
>  
> Mike... they are all here - :-)
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print/2010-Nature-Calendar/i-b8CXkWP/A
> 
> 
> On 5/1/2023 8:33 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > Seems to be missing a cormorant. As I suspect most of this month's entries 
> > will be.
> >
> >> On 01/05/2023 13:08 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> >>
> >>   
> >> Ok, I'll play
> >>
> >> Decided this one  had been seen in a PUG before and the file, scanned
> >> from a Kodachrome slide, had
> >> not been well processed going to digital .  Have lovely memories
> >> associated with it though .
> >>
> >> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Books-in-Print/North-America-Naturally/i-TFfKwNx/A
> >>
> >> ann
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> ann sanfedele photography
> >> https://annsan.smugmug.com
> >> https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts
> >> https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan
> >> https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks
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Re: Peso - one more lonely tree not submitted for May PUG

[mike wilson]

Seems to be missing a cormorant. As I suspect most of this month's entries will 
be.

> On 01/05/2023 13:08 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
>  
> Ok, I'll play
> 
> Decided this one  had been seen in a PUG before and the file, scanned 
> from a Kodachrome slide, had
> not been well processed going to digital .  Have lovely memories 
> associated with it though .
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Books-in-Print/North-America-Naturally/i-TFfKwNx/A
> 
> ann
> 
> -- 
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> https://annsan.smugmug.com
> https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts
> https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan
> https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks
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Re: A random XKCD strip that turned up today

[mike wilson]

The lengths they will go to for point scoring, though...

> On 22/04/2023 00:33 Comcast  wrote:
> 
>  
> HAR! Love the obsessive photographers. They’re focused!
> 
> Paul
> 
> > On Apr 21, 2023, at 7:18 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> > 
> > I occasionally see what a random XKCD strip turns up
> > (I've got https://c.xkcd.com/random/comic/ bookmarked).
> > 
> > This one amused me:  https://xkcd.com/1014/
> > 
> > Cars and cameras - what's not to like?  :-)
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Re: Pentax K3 Mark III Monochrome Matte Black Edition

[mike wilson]

I wonder how big a "run" is.  Not into triple figures, I would guess.

> On 21/04/2023 14:16 Bill  wrote:
> 
>  
> Apparently they started taking pre orders for the second run of the new
> Monochrome camera earlier today for deliveries in late May.
> It sold out in a couple of hours, so if you want one and didn't get an
> order in, the next batch is slated for sometime in the summer.
> 
> bill
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Re: Vacation suggestion

[mike wilson]

> On 21/04/2023 00:00 Bill  wrote:
> 
>  
> Jackson, just south of Yellowstone is a charming little town (or it was
> when I visited). If you don't want to shoot what other tourists have done
> stay away from the geyser fields. I also found that if one was willing to
> hike a few hundred yards from the parking lot, most of the crowds had
> thinned out, so a short hike should take you to a place where few men had
> gone before.
> When we were staying at Jenny Lake we went into Jackson to do laundry. I
> was sitting on a bench outside the laundromat reading a book when the
> absolutely most dangerous man I've ever not wanted to have anything to do
> with pulled up beside me on the rattiest Harley in the world.
> As he went past me, I noted that he had what appeared to be one of the
> largest pistols I have ever seen in a holster on his left hip. I believe it
> was a 44 Magnum, but I could be wrong. He was big and rough and tough and
> looked ready to snap the neck of anyone who crossed him.
> He went into the laundromat where his partner was doing their laundry. I
> stayed outside, but my wife found the interaction between said biker and
> his missus to be very amusing. She was a very tiny woman, about a third his
> size. Apparently he was clueless about all things laundry and she was very
> vocal regarding this fact. He took the whole thing in stride about the same
> way a puppy who just shat on the floor would take the scolding he was being
> given.
> 
> I wish I had been there to see it, but at the same time, probably best that
> I wasn't.
> 
> bill

From my experience with HD riders, he was probably a dentist on vacation.

> 
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:59 AM  wrote:
> 
> > In Sept we’re going to Yellowstone for 1 week followed by the Grand Canyon
> > for another week.
> >
> > At least with digital I don’t have to worry about running out of film.
> > (Just battery life.) Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be
> > judicious.
> >
> > So the question is: What should I shoot? Not just the same things that a
> > million other tourists have shot, that’s for certain.
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Re: Vacation suggestion

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> On 19/04/2023 14:59 coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
> 
>  
> In Sept we’re going to Yellowstone for 1 week followed by the Grand Canyon 
> for another week.
> 
> At least with digital I don’t have to worry about running out of film. (Just 
> battery life.) Except for the 6x7. At 10 shots per roll one must be judicious.
> 
> So the question is: What should I shoot? Not just the same things that a 
> million other tourists have shot, that’s for certain.

Nude selfies.
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Re: PESO: Flying MGA

[mike wilson]

> On 16/04/2023 22:37 Bill  wrote:
> 
>  
> At least I think that's what it is.
> I put up before and after pictures, so two links.
> I can see some pretty stomach churning memes coming out of this tool.
> 
> Before:
> https://flic.kr/p/2otGBoq
> And after
> https://flic.kr/p/2otGBnD

Missed your calling.  "Senior Executive in charge of car styling" has a certain 
ring to it.  George Lucas might have wanted a word, as well.
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Re: PESO: Flying T-Bird (No Pentax Content)

[mike wilson]

> On 16/04/2023 18:34 Bill  wrote:
> 
>  
> I was at a car show a while back and happened upon this very futuristic
> Ford from the late 1950s.
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2otHvy9
> 
> Shot on the Fuji X-Pro 1 and 35/1.4 Fujinon lens.
> I'm playing with the Remove tool in the Beta version of Photoshop 2023.
> --

Fun.  Do you mind if I link that for others who might be amused/interested?
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Re: PDML Gothic

[mike wilson]

Great minds and all that.  Although the folks on this one look more Graffiti 
than Gothic.
> On 11/04/2023 12:43 Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
>  
> Great shot. One of should have had a pitchfork in your hand!
> 
> > On 11 Apr 2023, at 12:33, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> > 
> > I'm in NY for a short visit to deal with some family business and see a 
> > couple of friends ... And of course I visited Ann while I was here. :) 
> > 
> > PDML Gothic - Manhattan, New York City 2023 :: https://flic.kr/p/2osw7km
> > 
> > The art of the selfie ... gads, it's harder than I think every time I try 
> > to make one. I made two with my iPhone that I deleted immediately, Ann made 
> > one with her CoolPix where she had a nice smile and I looked like I'd been 
> > smokin' dope for a day. This one I made with the Light L16 camera on self 
> > timer, camera set to about 75mm focal length: I cut my head off partially, 
> > but Ann has a mischievous look on her face that I like and at least the 
> > photo is reasonably sharp. The picture of the girl on the wall is one of 
> > Ann's paintings, based on a photo taken of her by her mom when she was a 
> > young girl.
> > 
> > It was a lovely hour! Ann, you're looking great! It was great to see you 
> > and spend some time together once again! :D
> > 
> > I'm off for another day and a half in Connecticut and then back home... 
> > 
> > Godfrey
>
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Re: PESO: Easter Cactus.

[mike wilson]

They take your breath away.
> On 10/04/2023 09:38 Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
>  
> Am 10.04.23 um 01:50 schrieb mike wilson:
> 
> > domestic house pants.  Those generally descendants of the species 
> > truncata...
> 
> Bermuda shorts?
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Re: PESO: Easter Cactus.

[mike wilson]

> On 09/04/2023 11:16 Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
>  
> Am 09.04.23 um 00:20 schrieb Bill:
> > As promised, here is a picture of one of this year's blooms.
> 
> Nice one.
> 
> Are there varieties for different seasons? I've got one which has been
> sold to me as a Xmas cactus.
> 
> Ralf
> 
Schlumbergera is a genus of succulent that is, generally, split into two groups 
for the purposes of domestic house pants.  Those generally descendants of the 
species truncata have yellow pollen, stem segments with pointy edges and flower 
earlier.  Those based on the species russelliana have pink pollen and stems 
with rounded edges.  I list them in the general timings of their flowering.  
It's not possible to be very precise about all of this because the damned 
things hybridise as vigorously as orchids, pigeons and doves and all the other 
organisms famous for the practice.

Flowering is triggered by day length.  They need a solid 12 hours a day without 
light over two weeks at reasonable (16-20degrees C) temperature to cause buds 
to form.  Once formed they are prone to dropping if disturbed.

If they get too much light the stems turn bright red.

In a previous life, I grew greenhouses full of these things and had to get them 
ready for market at Christmas time.  The best way to trigger flower budding was 
to cover them with black plastic bags about a week before you wanted them to 
start.  For some reason, nobody wanted to buy them like that.  As mentioned, 
there was no point in selling them once budding had begun, as they would all 
fall off on the way home or shortly after.
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Re: OT: "Accidentally" Wes Anderson

[mike wilson]

Any relation to the Owen/Luke Wilson clan?  Seems very similar, facially.

> On 03/04/2023 19:01 Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
>  
> One of my college roommate's sons. Wen Wilson, is a close friend of Wes
> Anderson.  He's the dude with the bandaged head brushing his teeth at 0:40
> of this video.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 12:51 PM John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> > Maybe semi-OT, because it's not camera specific; it's a STYLE.
> >
> > I was just wandering around YouTube and ran across a short video on how
> > to take photographs in the style of Wes Anderson (American Movie Maker).
> > But I think it would be fun ... maybe as a PUG category next year?
> >
> > Anyway ...
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDMPMftpkW0
> >
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Re: Bob, Dan, Godfrey, Bill, Collin and I are alive...

[mike wilson]

Feels self carefully.  Yup; mostly, anyway.
> On 28/03/2023 22:04 Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
>  
> Is anyone else?
>
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Re: UK PDML meet-up in May, anyone?

[mike wilson]

First Northumbrian distillery in 200 years opens just off the route of your 
last day.  Would seem churlish not to visit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-65038894

> On 18/03/2023 16:20 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
>  
> Bob W PDML wrote:
> 
> >That sounds very unpleasant and disabling, I hope you make a quick and 
> >complete recovery.
> >
> >It was a motorbike mishap for me. I was doing my compulsory basic training 
> >with a view to buying a 125-equivalent electric motorbike. When the 
> >instructor dropped his arm to signal an emergency stop I ballsed it up and 
> >came off. Concussion, bruising and a broken collarbone were my reward, but 
> >I’ve decided that motorbikes and I are not meant for each other.
> 
> Yikes!!! I've fallen off at over 100mph and just gone racing the next
> day! Your "emergency dismount" (equestrian euphemism I learned from my
> mum) sounds like an epic mishap.
> 
> I usually tell people after their first crash to stick with it and not
> give up, but in your case I think I'll concur with your own decision.
>  
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Re: Pentax to make new film camera?

[mike wilson]

They just need to add an exclamation mark to that model for the perfect name...
> On 23/03/2023 10:54 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
>  
> https://petapixel.com/2023/03/22/pentax-is-considering-making-a-new-hand-winding-film-camera/
>
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Re: DPReview to Close Down

[mike wilson]

But clearly not profitable.  Or profitable enough.
> On 22/03/2023 00:56 Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
>  
> I agree. Their forums were sometimes interesting or helpful, too.
> 
> Rick
> 
> > On Mar 21, 2023, at 5:23 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> > 
> > That’s a shame. It was an asset. Detailed reviews and accurate analysis.
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> >> On Mar 21, 2023, at 4:55 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> >> 
> >> I was going to write ‘OT’ in the subject line but actually DPReview have 
> >> said some very good things about Pentax to date…
> >> 
> >> They are closing the site down - a crime!
> >> 
> >> Links:
> >> 
> >> News story:
> >> 
> >> https://www.dpreview.com/news/5901145460/dpreview-com-to-close
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Video from Chris and Jordan:
> >> 
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLikDUacsC8
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Cheers
> >> 
> >> Cotty
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Re: PESO: European brook lamprey

[mike wilson]

Lampreys are fascinating organisms.  Apart from being (afaik) the only 
four-eyed vertebrate, their body chemistry provides rich hunting grounds for 
pharmaceutics.  Some are anadromous, some are not; some have a parasitic phase 
of their life cycle, some do not.

As a child, I remember seeing "fields" of brook lampreys in streams, only the 
upper parts of their bodies out of the gravel as they hunted passing 
invertebrates in the current.

Used as a meat substitute here during Lent, due to the non-fishy taste of the 
flesh, they were usually eaten in pies.

If I remember correctly, there was a Roman governor who enjoyed executing 
people by having them thrown into his lamprey pool.

> On 19/03/2023 21:07 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
>  
> Glad John asked.. I wondered too .  refrained from making jokey 
> comments  like "cute little suckers" .. ooops.. I did anyway ;-)
> 
> I got sucked on by them or their cousins wading in a freshwater pond 
> when I was a kid.. tiny ones but not appreciated.  You captured them
> almost too well
> 
> ann
> 
> On 3/19/2023 4:38 PM, Toine wrote:
> > If they are present water quality is good. Excellent water quality maybe
> > doesnt exist any more in this part of the world.
> >
> > On Sun, 19 Mar 2023, 19:26 John Sessoms,  wrote:
> >
> >> Indicates good quality or bad quality?
> >>
> >> On 3/18/2023 4:28 PM, Toine wrote:
> >>> This fish is very rare and if present an indication of water quality. I
> >> had
> >>> the opportunity to see them because they were just being counted.
> >>>
> >>> https://repiuk.nl/new/_1033255/
> >>>
> >>> Lumix G9, Leica 12-60
> >>>
> >>> Toine
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Re: UK PDML meet-up in May, anyone?

[mike wilson]

Could have been worse - it's that daffodil time of year

> On 19/03/2023 16:35 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
>  
> Sorry mate I should have further along the thread - sorry to see this. Must 
> have been a sobering experience! ‘Stroke’ ! You sure it didn’t say ‘Nil by 
> Pentax’ ;-)
> 
> C
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 Mar 2023, at 08:33, Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
> It happened just over four weeks ago so I’m well on the road to recovery now. 
> I was in A for about four hours - you go to the front of the queue if you 
> have a head injury, so I was seen and treated straight away. 
> 
> Once my head had cleared I noticed they’d written ‘?stroke’ against my name 
> on the whiteboard. I was looking forward to that, but sadly none of the 
> nurses stroked me. Bloody NHS!
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Re: UK PDML meet-up in May, anyone?

[mike wilson]

At least it was someone else's bike (as all the motorcyclists on here will be 
thinking) but full marks for commitment.  We will be in Dorset first week 
of July, if you are healed and fancy meeting up.
> On 17/03/2023 19:02 Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
>  
> That sounds very unpleasant and disabling, I hope you make a quick and 
> complete recovery.
> 
> It was a motorbike mishap for me. I was doing my compulsory basic training 
> with a view to buying a 125-equivalent electric motorbike. When the 
> instructor dropped his arm to signal an emergency stop I ballsed it up and 
> came off. Concussion, bruising and a broken collarbone were my reward, but 
> I’ve decided that motorbikes and I are not meant for each other.
> 
> > On 17 Mar 2023, at 18:27, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> > 
> > Bob W PDML wrote:
> > 
> >> I’ll be in Paris from 18-21 May. 
> >> 
> >> 10th and 11th are possibilities but I’m trying to arrange a trip to 
> >> Amsterdam and the NL for May sometime, so it’s a bit uncertain. 
> >> 
> >> It also depends to some extent how well my fractured collarbone has 
> >> healed. 
> >> I expect to be discharged at the end of April, and so far everything’s 
> >> going well, but who knows?
> > 
> > Yikes! Didn't know about the collarbone. Cycling mishap?
> > 
> > I just had surgery on my left hand two weeks ago (and had the stitches
> > removed 2 hours ago!) for Dupuytren's Contracture on two fingers.
> > Still painful and inconvenient and the recovery time won't be quick
> > but I hope to be playing bass again within 6 weeks or so.
> > 
> > Keep me posted on your recovery.
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Re: PESO - Christmas Cactus

[mike wilson]

They don't like being moved or otherwise disturbed once in bloom.  Even 
watering can cause bud fall.  I had a gigantic one until it was repotted about 
20 years ago.  Never really recovered from that
> On 09/03/2023 02:51 Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
>  
> This is just a modest potted cactus until mid-December, when bright red 
> flowers grow from the tips of its leaves (though many don’t make it past the 
> bud stage).  This year our plant bloomed twice, in December and again late 
> last month.
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/March-2023/Miscellany-3-23/i-QBLgPsL/A
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Re: GESO - Percy Street, South Philly

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> On 07/03/2023 08:12 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>  
> > On Mar 6, 2023, at 10:46 PM, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > Same here; the duplicate always arrives way before any replies.  It's a 
> > glitch that doesn't particularly bother me but, if generic, might be 
> > problematic for Rick in other areas.
> > 
> > I take it California is free of such nonsense?
> 
> I don't know about the whole state, but I haven't seen it.  
> 
> Have you looked at the headers on the duplicates to see if it was two 
> separate sendings, or where they diverge?

One sending from Rick; same message ID for both.  But by the time they leave 
smpclient.apple, the ESMTPSA IDs are different. There's a sequence of numbers 
at the end of the latter ID which go 12.2023.03.06.11.34.18 That is clearly a 
timestamp.  On the other, it goes 120.2023.03.06.11.34.19  There is then a one 
second difference for the rest of the route until they arrive at me, when they 
are back in time.
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Re: GESO - Percy Street, South Philly

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> On 07/03/2023 08:12 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>  
> > On Mar 6, 2023, at 10:46 PM, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > Same here; the duplicate always arrives way before any replies.  It's a 
> > glitch that doesn't particularly bother me but, if generic, might be 
> > problematic for Rick in other areas.
> > 
> > I take it California is free of such nonsense?
> 
> I don't know about the whole state, but I haven't seen it.  
> 
> Have you looked at the headers on the duplicates to see if it was two 
> separate sendings, or where they diverge?

That's going to take a while as I can only do it manually, as it were. But I'll 
give it a go.
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Re: GESO - Percy Street, South Philly

[mike wilson]

Same here; the duplicate always arrives way before any replies.  It's a glitch 
that doesn't particularly bother me but, if generic, might be problematic for 
Rick in other areas.

I take it California is free of such nonsense?

> On 07/03/2023 03:11 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
>  
> Larry - no.. the original posts are coming to me simultaneously  and no 
> dups when I've replied to Rick
> 
> ann
> 
> On 3/6/2023 7:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >
> >> On Mar 6, 2023, at 3:16 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for your comments, Ann!
> >>
> >> I have no idea why some people are getting double posts. I’ll poke around 
> >> and see what I can find.
> >>
> >> Rick
> > I wonder if those are double posts, or double replies. Sometimes a “reply 
> > all” will reply to both the list and the sender.
> >
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Re: PESO: Table Lamp. No Pentax Content

[mike wilson]

> On 05/03/2023 15:56 Bill  wrote:
> 
>  
> On 3/5/2023 12:44 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >> On 04/03/2023 16:20 Bill  wrote:
> >>
> >>   
> >>  the good people at UPS.
> > Not a phrase I ever imagined coming from your pen.
> >
> USP seems to have gotten their shit together fairly well over the past 
> decade or so. My lens left Winnipeg just before noon on Friday and was 
> delivered just after 4:00pm in Regina. This is a 5 hour drive, and I'm 
> pretty sure they truck from Winnipeg to here.
> I think the biggest problem people had with UPS was asking them to 
> deliver to residential addresses. They really weren't equipped to deal 
> with that until online shopping forced them to up their game.
> If one was delivering to a business or office, they were generally 
> pretty good, but for residential deliveries, they had some really bad 
> service.
> I have deliveries done at my wife's law office. It's possible that the 
> delivery address being a lawyer makes them better because they, like all 
> sane people, don't want to be on the wrong side of that group of people.

Good to know that you've found a work-around.  Do I think it's a coincidence 
that deliveries are good to two lawyer offices?  I think it's more likely that 
the drivers are just lazy, not lazy and stupid.
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Re: GESO - Italian Market

[mike wilson]

> On 05/03/2023 20:41 Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
>  
> A few days ago a photographically-oriented friend and I took a walk through 
> the Italian market in South Philly. It is a mostly open-air produce market 
> occupying both sides of several blocks. 
> 
> Over the years, the offerings have become less Italian and more diverse, and 
> there are more non-food shops. It is still very colorful. We visited on a 
> Thursday morning; the place is jammed on Saturdays.
> 
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/March-2023/Italian-Market/

Don't know if it's just me but, for the last couple of weeks, I've been getting 
double posts from you.
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Re: PESO: Table Lamp. No Pentax Content

[mike wilson]

> On 04/03/2023 16:20 Bill  wrote:
> 
>  
>  the good people at UPS.

Not a phrase I ever imagined coming from your pen.
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Re: OT: Pentax Medical

[mike wilson]

That would be proctically everyone.

> On 27/02/2023 19:53 Bill  wrote:
> 
>  
> Someone's gotta get in front of this before it turns to crap.
> 
> bill
> 
> On 2/27/2023 12:37 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> > The users of their colonoscopes stand behind their patients.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 27, 2023, at 1:35 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> >>
> >> That's a division that really stands behind their products.
> >>
> >> On February 27, 2023 8:37:42 AM PST, "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> >>  wrote:
> >>> On my way to a medical appointment in Montvale, NJ, this morning, I made a
> >>> wrong turn into an industrial park, and drove past Pentax Medical 
> >>> Americas.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.pentaxmedical.com/pentax/
> >>> https://www.connectcre.com/stories/pentax-medical-hq-changes-hands-in-montvale/
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Re: PESO x2

[mike wilson]

Actually not quite accurate, as ladies play it these days.  I thought they had 
more taste but there you go

> On 25/02/2023 22:37 Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
>  
> Great vdiscription!
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>*
> 
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 4:52 PM mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> >
> > Cricket's easy.
> >
> > You have two sides; one out in the field and one in.
> >
> > Each man that's in the side that's in goes out and, when he's out, he
> > comes in and the next man goes out to be in until he's out.
> >
> > When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's
> > been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out.
> >
> > Sometimes you get men still in and not out.
> >
> > When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out and,
> > when he is out, he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in.
> >
> > There are two men called umpires who stay out all the time and they decide
> > when the men who are in are out.
> >
> > When both sides have been in and all the men have got out and both sides
> > have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are
> > not out, that is the end of the game.
> >
> > Much simpler than American handegg.
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Re: PESO x2

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> On 25/02/2023 16:12 Bill  wrote:
> 
>  
> On 2/25/2023 12:19 AM, Alan C wrote:
> > I'll have to look at some explanations of Pixel Shift!
> >
> > BTW, since you used the Cricket analogy, did you hear that the SA T20 
> > ladies clobbered the Poms in CT yesterday to reach the final of the 
> > T20 world cup where they will face the Aussies tomorrow.
> >
> > Alan C
> >
> 
> I hadn't heard that. I don't follow the game. I was introduced to it 
> last year by some of my South Asian coworkers, but I know less about it 
> than you know about Pixel Shift.

Cricket's easy.

You have two sides; one out in the field and one in.

Each man that's in the side that's in goes out and, when he's out, he comes in 
and the next man goes out to be in until he's out.

When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in 
goes out and tries to get those coming in, out.

Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out and, when 
he is out, he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in.

There are two men called umpires who stay out all the time and they decide when 
the men who are in are out.

When both sides have been in and all the men have got out and both sides have 
been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, 
that is the end of the game.

Much simpler than American handegg.
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Re: Correction on the XT-5 file size.

[mike wilson]

This post seems to be technically crap, which is unusual for you.

> On 19/02/2023 01:47 Bill  wrote:
> 
>  
> They are actually just over 85.5k
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Re: hello, after a long time

[mike wilson]

Good to see you back. I wouldn't spend too much time trying to catch up...

> On 13/02/2023 06:02 Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
>  
> hope everyone is safe and things are going on as usual in pdml central
> 
> after some fundamental life changes due to which i had to change towns and
> i was not even able to lurk for the last six months or so, i am settled in
> my 'native' place in kerala and 'back' so to speak. i have been active
> photographically speaking, but mostly with the nikon birding set-up and
> i've a few treks and motorcycle rides in the himalayas coming up in the
> months ahead on which i will hopefully be taking the k5iis.
> 
> glad to be back and though it's no use trying to catch up on the mail, i'll
> give it a try...
> 
> regards, subash
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Re: Why are snowflakes like this?

[mike wilson]

Also Jostein, in Norway.  Nothing like a head start.
> On 09/02/2023 21:07 John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
>  
> I remember someone who used to post here a lot had a fairly elaborate 
> setup for photographing snowflakes (was that also Mark Cassino?) & the 
> images were well received whenever he posted PESOs for them.
> 
> That's why the video caught my eye in the first place and I thought it 
> might interest some here HOW & WHY snowflakes grow
> 
> ... the part nature plays in getting them ready for Mark (?) to 
> photograph. 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/9/2023 1:36 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > Very interesting video!
> > 
> > Dan Matyola
> > *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> > *
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 6:44 PM John Sessoms  wrote:
> > 
> >> Why are snowflakes like this?
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao2Jfm35XeE
> >>
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Re: An orgy of HDR and computer-enhanced kitsch

[mike wilson]

> On 09/02/2023 15:48 Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
>  
> The Guardian presents the winners of this year's international garden
> photographer of the year competition.
> 
> "The waterfall is pictured surrounded by autumn-toned trees, and with
> the (enhanced/added) mist..."
> 
> "... which I created from a bug hotel in my garden using in-camera image
> blending"
> 
> "The Stream Garden ... is shown here in all its glory in the first
> morning light using HDR."
> 
> The whole selection looks like an ad for a well-known photo enhancement
> software. But don't take my word for it.
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/gallery/2023/feb/08/international-garden-photographer-of-the-year-in-pictures
> 
>  From this to all-AI-generated imganery is only a small step.
> 
> Ralf

Well, most of those are utterly dreadful.  And having been to Plitvice Lakes 
National Park, I have to say that the image bears no resemblance whatsoever to 
the place I was at.  I would also say it would be quite difficult to take a bad 
unmodified image of the place.  It is that scenic.  Have a look at the Wiki 
photos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plitvice_Lakes_National_Park
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Re: AI 'Art'

[mike wilson]

That's what they said when photography first came on the scene...

> On 05/02/2023 12:09 Alan C  wrote:
> 
>  
> So, I suppose if you have access to unlimited AI generated images then 
> anything can be created by combining them in the desired way? Paint, 
> brushes, spatulas & easels will become obsolete!
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On 05-Feb-23 01:34 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:
> > Following our recent discussion on AI generated pictures of mushrooms on
> > training shoes, my grandson has generated some more AI pictures from text
> > (which they call prompts). A small proof of the way ahead of us...
> > https://www.flickr.com/gp/mxer/J69wT9x23S
> > https://www.flickr.com/gp/mxer/5cP6E84Q9U
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Re: Price of K3-III dropping in Europe

[mike wilson]

> On 05/02/2023 15:36 Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
>  
> Am 05.02.23 um 14:36 schrieb Henk Terhell:
> > 250 Km from my house, however I guess it will be easy to mail order from
> > Germany.
> 
> Just as easy as when I bought my Ricoh Theta from Photo Video Smits in
> Arnhem, NL.
> 
> Living in the EU does indeed have its advantages...
> 

Shut up!

8 -)
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Re: OT Rabbit hole

[mike wilson]

Yet most of the pictures I get to see seem to be more centred upon the USA, or 
things relating to it like the Vietnam war.
> On 31/01/2023 18:15 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
>  
> This is clearly a better quiz for you guys on the other side of the 
> pond.  Also better for guys who can id vehicles ages in street scenes..
> 
> Interesting thing about fashions.. there are differences for same time 
> periods across countries.. so that poses a problem for
> us over here..
> 
> bottom line.. I really sucked at it.
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/31/2023 1:23 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >   A game that shows you a photo and you have to guess the year it was taken.
> >
> >
> >
> >   https://www.chronophoto.app/web.html
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Re: OT Rabbit hole

[mike wilson]

3905 - I was lucky.  A group of Japanese women standing next to some tar and 
paper sheds; a street scene with a poster for a Stallone film and a racing car 
start line with everyone dressed in gnomex suits were easy to date to within a 
decade. The Stallone one was dead on.

If you run it again, you get a different set of images.   
> On 31/01/2023 07:02 Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> 
>  
> Well, I scored 3437.  What did you get?  
> 
> -p
> 
> On 1/31/2023 12:23 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >   A game that shows you a photo and you have to guess the year it was taken.
> >
> >
> >
> >   https://www.chronophoto.app/web.html
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OT Rabbit hole

[mike wilson]

 A game that shows you a photo and you have to guess the year it was taken. 



 https://www.chronophoto.app/web.html 
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Re: First time birding

[mike wilson]

> On 19/01/2023 15:59 Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
>  
> > On 18 Jan 2023, at 07:07, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> On 18/01/2023 04:45 Alan C  wrote:
> >> Common all over South Africa too, even in remote camps of the Kruger
> >> Park. The ones here escaped from a sailing sip en-route to Aus. Can't
> >> imagine why they were being taken there.
> > 
> > They were a common pet, being easy to feed and otherwise look after, so it 
> > might be that.  Or they could have been wild birds that inadvertently went 
> > to sea with a ship and remained there until first landfall.  This could 
> > happen if a crew was in the habit of feeding them.
> 
> Perhaps they were being transported for stealing loaves of bread. They were 
> easily caught because they habitually overestimated their own fully-laden 
> airspeed velocity. 

They wouldn't have much difficulty getting out of the leg shackles.
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Re: Something for Henk

[mike wilson]

I think there are equal chances of him putting his foot in it. 

> On 22/01/2023 03:09 Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
>  
> It's too bad the artist didn't put his best foot forward.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 2:32 PM Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> > Just discovered this in THe Guardian:
> >
> >
> > https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/jan/21/youll-grow-out-of-them-trainers-transformed-into-plants-in-pictures
> >
> > Ralf
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Re: First time birding

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> On 18/01/2023 04:45 Alan C  wrote:
> 
>  
> Common all over South Africa too, even in remote camps of the Kruger 
> Park. The ones here escaped from a sailing sip en-route to Aus. Can't 
> imagine why they were being taken there.
> 

They were a common pet, being easy to feed and otherwise look after, so it 
might be that.  Or they could have been wild birds that inadvertently went to 
sea with a ship and remained there until first landfall.  This could happen if 
a crew was in the habit of feeding them.

> 
> On 18-Jan-23 12:20 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > I called it British because it is found all over the British Isles, even on 
> > some of the more isolated islands.  The _really_ isolated places have their 
> > own subspecies'.
> >
> > Once one of the top three common birds in towns and suburbia, the 
> > population there has crashed for unknown reasons by about 90% in the last 
> > 40 years.
> >
> >> On 17/01/2023 00:04 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> >>
> >>   
> >> I learned the name -English- Sparrow  as a child ..  more recent field
> >> guide from National Geo lists the name as a varient  for house...
> >> but what I was kidding about  answering Mike's post is the way people
> >> these days are more apt to say British or Britain.
> >>
> >> ann old school
> >>
> >> On 1/16/2023 6:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >>> After you shoot them, do you eat them or feed them to the cats?  
> >>>
> >>> Yes, the correct name is House Sparrow, but English Sparrow is also used
> >>> for the same bird by some folks.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 6:05 PM  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Comcast wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I call them House Spartows as does Audubon. I’ve shot hundreds in my
> >>>> backyard.
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