RE: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-29 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Dear Tom, > Ha, Ha, Ha, > But seriously I saw it as a valid comment on a way to make money in > photography. I didn't say it was invalid, but the answer to the question "How do you make money in photography?" isn

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
"tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:51 AM Subject: RE: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich > Dear Kenneth, > > That was a joke. > > Thank You, > > Tom > > > -Original Message- > &

RE: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-27 Thread tom
Dear Kenneth, That was a joke. Thank You, Tom > -Original Message- > From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich > > > The seminar

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
The seminar attendees were mostly outdoor/nature photographers. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:56 PM Subject: RE: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich > > --

RE: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-27 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > In a John Shaw seminar last spring in Michigan, he answered > the question > "How do you make money in photography? - by saying you need to write > articles that contain your photos. That or maybe shoot weddings.

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich > Dan Scott explained: > > On Sunday, January 26, 2003, at 01:57 AM, Mike Johnston wrote: > > >> John Shaw st

Re: Candid (was Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-27 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Monday, January 27, 2003, 7:07:11 PM, you wrote: > C'mon Bob. You were spotted while surreptitiously wielding a camera in > a secluded space—obviously feigning interest in a beret clad geezer. > The only plausible explanation is you were there on behalf of the > detective agency her husban

Re: Candid (was Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-27 Thread Dan Scott
On Sunday, January 26, 2003, at 05:34 PM, Bob Walkden wrote: I had a couple mildly of amusing incidents this weekend. I was in a very beautiful travel bookshop in London on Saturday, which is illuminated from above by natural light streaming in through an atrium. It's a lovely, old wood-panelle

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-27 Thread Peter Alling
Yea, ain't it the truth. At 05:41 PM 1/26/2003 -0500, Ann wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: > > Here's a story. Well, we did drive to Beer Sheva last weekend. Among > other things I've taken my FA 50/1.7 with me to shoot some kids. So > I've been shooting. One moment I've noticed kids were giving a c

Re: Candid (was Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Bob: It's a good thing you're in London, rather than New York, or you would be dead twice by now! Bob Walkden wrote: > Hi, > > > Don't complain, Boris. Over here, the moms pull out their celphone and call > > the cops to complain about he pedophile taking pictures of they kids. > > I had a coupl

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-26 Thread Dan Scott
On Sunday, January 26, 2003, at 01:57 AM, Mike Johnston wrote: John Shaw started his recent Austin workshop by innocently asking "How many people here think I make money from my photographs?" ;-) And...? --Mike He said he makes his living from his workshops, not his photos. But I'm thi

Candid (was Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-26 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, > Don't complain, Boris. Over here, the moms pull out their celphone and call > the cops to complain about he pedophile taking pictures of they kids. I had a couple mildly of amusing incidents this weekend. I was in a very beautiful travel bookshop in London on Saturday, which is illuminated

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Boris Liberman wrote: > > Here's a story. Well, we did drive to Beer Sheva last weekend. Among > other things I've taken my FA 50/1.7 with me to shoot some kids. So > I've been shooting. One moment I've noticed kids were giving a certain > dog something to drink. Hopefully the shot I managed would

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-26 Thread T Rittenhouse
d for me. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! drn> Similarly, I know snap-shooters who think it's really neat that I drn> can make the photos I do, but listening to them talk I get a drn> distinct impression that they don't think they're *"allowed"* to drn> _try_ to actually _compose_ a photo, because that, you see, would drn> be *art*

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Frank Theriault wrote: > Funny the way society values things, eh? In many, many ways. > Many years ago, when I was a student, I worked at Canada's largest music > store in Montreal. Other than me, virtually every employee was a musican > "between gigs" - although the gap between gigs seemed to o

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-26 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Well, since graduating from college in 1978, I've earned my living as a technical writer, technical editor, or technical journalist. I haven't earned a killing, but I've earned a living. It beats the $100 or so that I receive for publishing a personal essay that took me 15 hours to write. [EMAIL P

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-26 Thread frank theriault
Funny the way society values things, eh? I recall about 4 or 5 years ago, reading in a cycling magazine that the average professional bike racer in the US makes $7000US per year. No wonder they need day jobs! Many years ago, when I was a student, I worked at Canada's largest music store in Montr

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-26 Thread Mark Roberts
"D. Glenn Arthur Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It's a lot like the "real musicians have day jobs" bumper stickers >I've seen. Q: What's the difference between musician and a 16" pizza? A: A 16" pizza can feed a family of four. Mark Roberts, Musician, photographer, pizza lover

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-25 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Dan Scott related: > On Saturday, January 25, 2003, at 01:28 PM, Mike Johnston wrote: >> Re photography, some of you might be surprised to learn a) how many >> famous photographers were actually independently wealthy, and b) how >> many famous, important, or widely-known photographers were, or a

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-25 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, January 25, 2003, at 03:43 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Peter Alling wrote: I just checked the cost of subscrbing to the OED online, and it's $550 PER ANNUM! Ok if you're a professional writer. No, not OK. It's completely free over at the library—which is my preference.

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-25 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, January 25, 2003, at 01:28 PM, Mike Johnston wrote: Re photography, some of you might be surprised to learn a) how many famous photographers were actually independently wealthy, and b) how many famous, important, or widely-known photographers were, or are, either poor, or suffer

Re: Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-25 Thread Keith Whaley
Oh. My error. keith Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Peter Alling wrote: > > > > > > > I just checked the cost of subscrbing to the OED online, and it's $550 > > > > PER ANNUM! > > > > Ok if you're a professional writer. > > No, not OK.

Actually on-topic: writers ain't rich

2003-01-25 Thread Mike Johnston
> I just checked the cost of subscrbing to the OED online, and it's $550 > PER ANNUM! > Ok if you're a professional writer. Whoa! If you're laboring under the delusion that most "professional writers" can afford such a thing, disabuse thyself! Writing is a particularly poor choice for making a d