Re: my book arrived

[d...@dougbrewerphoto.com]

Thanks, Dave. Glad you liked it.

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> On May 31, 2018, at 8:51 AM, "postmas...@robertstech.com" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, definitely. Let's have an informal vote on photos to include. What are 
> your picks? (Remember, for the calendar format we can only use shots that are 
> in landscape orientation.)
> 
>  Original Message 
> From:"Daniel J. Matyola" 
> Sent:Thu, 31 May 2018 08:44:39 -0400
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> Subject:Re: my book arrived
> 
>> Any thought of doing a calendar from the 10th Annual?
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:57 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wowie is all i can say about this 10th year edition. The photos are
>>> all top notch plus 1.
>>> 
>>> Once again Doug Brewer did a stellar job on the foreword. It brought
>>> back some good memories of Don Nelson whom i met in 2005, 6 and 7 at
>>> GFM. He truly is/was one of the good guys. He made us all feel welcome
>>> and at home. He made his special chili for us on every trip and opened
>>> up his cabin to us all. He always had small gifts and even a few
>>> lenses to hand out. Don Mark and Doug were the perfect super hero and
>>> side kicks.:-)
>>> He will be missed
>>> 
>>> Dave Brooks
>>> 
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Re: my book arrived

[postmas...@robertstech.com]

Yes, definitely. Let's have an informal vote on photos to include. What are 
your picks? (Remember, for the calendar format we can only use shots that are 
in landscape orientation.)

 Original Message 
From:"Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent:Thu, 31 May 2018 08:44:39 -0400
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Subject:Re: my book arrived

>Any thought of doing a calendar from the 10th Annual?
>
>
>Dan Matyola
>http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:57 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>
>> Wowie is all i can say about this 10th year edition. The photos are
>> all top notch plus 1.
>>
>> Once again Doug Brewer did a stellar job on the foreword. It brought
>> back some good memories of Don Nelson whom i met in 2005, 6 and 7 at
>> GFM. He truly is/was one of the good guys. He made us all feel welcome
>> and at home. He made his special chili for us on every trip and opened
>> up his cabin to us all. He always had small gifts and even a few
>> lenses to hand out. Don Mark and Doug were the perfect super hero and
>> side kicks.:-)
>> He will be missed
>>
>> Dave Brooks
>>
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>> www.caughtinmotion.com
>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
>> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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Re: my book arrived

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Any thought of doing a calendar from the 10th Annual?


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:57 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

> Wowie is all i can say about this 10th year edition. The photos are
> all top notch plus 1.
>
> Once again Doug Brewer did a stellar job on the foreword. It brought
> back some good memories of Don Nelson whom i met in 2005, 6 and 7 at
> GFM. He truly is/was one of the good guys. He made us all feel welcome
> and at home. He made his special chili for us on every trip and opened
> up his cabin to us all. He always had small gifts and even a few
> lenses to hand out. Don Mark and Doug were the perfect super hero and
> side kicks.:-)
> He will be missed
>
> Dave Brooks
>
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> www.caughtinmotion.com
> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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my book arrived

[David J Brooks]

Wowie is all i can say about this 10th year edition. The photos are
all top notch plus 1.

Once again Doug Brewer did a stellar job on the foreword. It brought
back some good memories of Don Nelson whom i met in 2005, 6 and 7 at
GFM. He truly is/was one of the good guys. He made us all feel welcome
and at home. He made his special chili for us on every trip and opened
up his cabin to us all. He always had small gifts and even a few
lenses to hand out. Don Mark and Doug were the perfect super hero and
side kicks.:-)
He will be missed

Dave Brooks

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Re: Book Arrived

[ann sanfedele]

What those guys said -
and clearly the 10 vs 11 thingy is totally inconsequential...

love the diner theme


ann


On 5/16/2018 5:21 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

On 16 May 2018 at 13:22, Steve Cottrell  wrote:


My copy has arrived and with a quick flip through, lots of oohs and aaahs
:-)


Same here. Arrived today and ooh-ing and aaah-ing too.


Fantastic reproduction Mark, really beautiful.


Yep!

Chris






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Re: Book Arrived

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On 16 May 2018 at 13:22, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> My copy has arrived and with a quick flip through, lots of oohs and aaahs
> :-)
>

Same here. Arrived today and ooh-ing and aaah-ing too.

>
> Fantastic reproduction Mark, really beautiful.
>

Yep!

Chris

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My copy has arrived and with a quick flip through, lots of oohs and aaahs :-)

Fantastic reproduction Mark, really beautiful.

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Re: Book arrived

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On May 18, 2016 9:00:58 AM PDT, David J Brooks  wrote:
>My copy arrived yesterday. Just had a look see. Another great
>production from mark and crew. Photos are excellent. I have noticed
>that every year mine seem to get farther to the back. I see a trend
>here.:-)
>

Your photos for the 2017 annual will be in the 2018 edition.

>Dave

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Book arrived

[David J Brooks]

My copy arrived yesterday. Just had a look see. Another great
production from mark and crew. Photos are excellent. I have noticed
that every year mine seem to get farther to the back. I see a trend
here.:-)

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Book arrived...ouch

[Jaume Lahuerta]

Just opened and several pictures show some white vertical dotted lines...

I am afraid I will have to return it...aghh

Jaume


  

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Re: Book arrived...ouch

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Is it just me, or has there been a considerable number of books with
quality issues this year?

Jostein

2010/5/3 Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com:
 Just opened and several pictures show some white vertical dotted lines...

 I am afraid I will have to return it...aghh

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Re: Book arrived...ouch

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AlunFoto wrote:


Is it just me, or has there been a considerable number of books with
quality issues this year?

Jostein



I haven't heard of such problems in the USA. It looks like a fault of the 
European printer. I had to print my books 3 times before getting good 
copies!


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Re: Book arrived...ouch

[mike wilson]

AlunFoto wrote:


Is it just me, or has there been a considerable number of books with
quality issues this year?

Jostein


I think so.  I've decided to live with the binding issue as there are no 
faults with the printing, to my rheumy old eyes.




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Just opened and several pictures show some white vertical dotted lines...

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Re: Book arrived...ouch

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On 3 May 2010 05:26, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:

 I haven't heard of such problems in the USA. It looks like a fault of the
 European printer. I had to print my books 3 times before getting good
 copies!

 Dario

My 3 copies were fine (printed just outside Rochester, incidentally).
I ordered 1 image wrap (which I'm glad I did, it's very nice) and 2
soft covers.

Sorry to hear some of you guys are having issues!


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Re: Blurb.com book arrived

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Hi Ken,
Grace and I were downtown after the playground trip, and I saw that  
the show was at Shane, but she was too tired by then. I've thought  
about doing one of those shows, but they look like a lot of work and   
quite an investment in materials and time. I think most of the people  
who sell at the shows do a whole circuit of similar events in the  
north central area.
Paul
On May 14, 2008, at 11:33 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

 I was @ Shain Park Saturday  thought I might see some of your work  
 there
 but I didn't. Out of 200 exhibitors, 25 were photographers. I was very
 impressed with the quality of the work shown. A high number of the  
 photogs
 were still using film.

 You car shots would have been perfect.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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 Subject: Re: Blurb.com book arrived


 Good to know. i have a dream cruise book ready. Thought I had a  
 publisher,
 but with the economy going south, they bailed. I may try to  
 publish it
 myself.
 Paul
 -- Original message --
 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 TN.??

 Dave

 On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Got my first prototype today and the verdict is...

 Wow!

 I was expecting to be really disappointed in the reproduction  
 quality.
 Maybe it's because I didn't get my hopes up but I'm *really*  
 impressed
 with the results. Front and back cover (full glossy) both look
 spectacular. The semi-matte interior pages look excellent. I've  
 been
 trying to find nits to pick but just can't come up with any as  
 far as
 the quality of the end product is concerned.

 The price is a bit steep, but that's not too surprising for  
 small-batch
 (one!) custom print jobs like this. I'm going to revise the book,
 adding
 more pages: I kept it small to start with because I didn't want to
 invest much time into a project that I was sure would disappoint  
 me.
 I've never been happier to be wrong!

 I wouldn't recommend trying this service unless you have a high  
 quality
 (not TN) monitor that's properly calibrated and profiled (I'm  
 very glad
 I recently upgraded my monitor), but if your equipment is up to  
 snuff
 at
 your end, they certainly seem to have a handle on their profiles  
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Re: Blurb.com book arrived

[Ken Waller]

I think most of the people
 who sell at the shows do a whole circuit of similar events in the
 north central area.

Your right. of the 25 photogs exhibiting, I noticed 3 or four from Michigan. 
A few from the west coast  Florida.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Blurb.com book arrived


 Hi Ken,
 Grace and I were downtown after the playground trip, and I saw that
 the show was at Shane, but she was too tired by then. I've thought
 about doing one of those shows, but they look like a lot of work and
 quite an investment in materials and time. I think most of the people
 who sell at the shows do a whole circuit of similar events in the
 north central area.
 Paul
 On May 14, 2008, at 11:33 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

 I was @ Shain Park Saturday  thought I might see some of your work
 there
 but I didn't. Out of 200 exhibitors, 25 were photographers. I was very
 impressed with the quality of the work shown. A high number of the
 photogs
 were still using film.

 You car shots would have been perfect.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: Re: Blurb.com book arrived


 Good to know. i have a dream cruise book ready. Thought I had a
 publisher,
 but with the economy going south, they bailed. I may try to
 publish it
 myself.
 Paul
 -- Original message --
 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 TN.??

 Dave

 On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Got my first prototype today and the verdict is...

 Wow!

 I was expecting to be really disappointed in the reproduction
 quality.
 Maybe it's because I didn't get my hopes up but I'm *really*
 impressed
 with the results. Front and back cover (full glossy) both look
 spectacular. The semi-matte interior pages look excellent. I've
 been
 trying to find nits to pick but just can't come up with any as
 far as
 the quality of the end product is concerned.

 The price is a bit steep, but that's not too surprising for
 small-batch
 (one!) custom print jobs like this. I'm going to revise the book,
 adding
 more pages: I kept it small to start with because I didn't want to
 invest much time into a project that I was sure would disappoint
 me.
 I've never been happier to be wrong!

 I wouldn't recommend trying this service unless you have a high
 quality
 (not TN) monitor that's properly calibrated and profiled (I'm
 very glad
 I recently upgraded my monitor), but if your equipment is up to
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 at
 your end, they certainly seem to have a handle on their profiles
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 equipment calibration at their end!

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Blurb.com book arrived

[Mark Roberts]

Got my first prototype today and the verdict is...

Wow!

I was expecting to be really disappointed in the reproduction quality. 
Maybe it's because I didn't get my hopes up but I'm *really* impressed 
with the results. Front and back cover (full glossy) both look 
spectacular. The semi-matte interior pages look excellent. I've been 
trying to find nits to pick but just can't come up with any as far as 
the quality of the end product is concerned.

The price is a bit steep, but that's not too surprising for small-batch 
(one!) custom print jobs like this. I'm going to revise the book, adding 
more pages: I kept it small to start with because I didn't want to 
invest much time into a project that I was sure would disappoint me. 
I've never been happier to be wrong!

I wouldn't recommend trying this service unless you have a high quality 
(not TN) monitor that's properly calibrated and profiled (I'm very glad 
I recently upgraded my monitor), but if your equipment is up to snuff at 
your end, they certainly seem to have a handle on their profiles and 
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Re: Blurb.com book arrived

[David J Brooks]

TN.??

Dave

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Got my first prototype today and the verdict is...

 Wow!

 I was expecting to be really disappointed in the reproduction quality.
 Maybe it's because I didn't get my hopes up but I'm *really* impressed
 with the results. Front and back cover (full glossy) both look
 spectacular. The semi-matte interior pages look excellent. I've been
 trying to find nits to pick but just can't come up with any as far as
 the quality of the end product is concerned.

 The price is a bit steep, but that's not too surprising for small-batch
 (one!) custom print jobs like this. I'm going to revise the book, adding
 more pages: I kept it small to start with because I didn't want to
 invest much time into a project that I was sure would disappoint me.
 I've never been happier to be wrong!

 I wouldn't recommend trying this service unless you have a high quality
 (not TN) monitor that's properly calibrated and profiled (I'm very glad
 I recently upgraded my monitor), but if your equipment is up to snuff at
 your end, they certainly seem to have a handle on their profiles and
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Re: Blurb.com book arrived

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Good to know. i have a dream cruise book ready. Thought I had a publisher, but 
with the economy going south, they bailed. I may try to publish it myself. 
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 TN.??
 
 Dave
 
 On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Got my first prototype today and the verdict is...
 
  Wow!
 
  I was expecting to be really disappointed in the reproduction quality.
  Maybe it's because I didn't get my hopes up but I'm *really* impressed
  with the results. Front and back cover (full glossy) both look
  spectacular. The semi-matte interior pages look excellent. I've been
  trying to find nits to pick but just can't come up with any as far as
  the quality of the end product is concerned.
 
  The price is a bit steep, but that's not too surprising for small-batch
  (one!) custom print jobs like this. I'm going to revise the book, adding
  more pages: I kept it small to start with because I didn't want to
  invest much time into a project that I was sure would disappoint me.
  I've never been happier to be wrong!
 
  I wouldn't recommend trying this service unless you have a high quality
  (not TN) monitor that's properly calibrated and profiled (I'm very glad
  I recently upgraded my monitor), but if your equipment is up to snuff at
  your end, they certainly seem to have a handle on their profiles and
  equipment calibration at their end!
 
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Re: Blurb.com book arrived

[David J Brooks]

I'm still toying with doing something for the barn and farm shots i have,.

I'll keep this in mind.

Dave

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:01 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good to know. i have a dream cruise book ready. Thought I had a publisher, 
 but with the economy going south, they bailed. I may try to publish it myself.
 Paul
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 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 TN.??

 Dave

 On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Got my first prototype today and the verdict is...
 
  Wow!
 
  I was expecting to be really disappointed in the reproduction quality.
  Maybe it's because I didn't get my hopes up but I'm *really* impressed
  with the results. Front and back cover (full glossy) both look
  spectacular. The semi-matte interior pages look excellent. I've been
  trying to find nits to pick but just can't come up with any as far as
  the quality of the end product is concerned.
 
  The price is a bit steep, but that's not too surprising for small-batch
  (one!) custom print jobs like this. I'm going to revise the book, adding
  more pages: I kept it small to start with because I didn't want to
  invest much time into a project that I was sure would disappoint me.
  I've never been happier to be wrong!
 
  I wouldn't recommend trying this service unless you have a high quality
  (not TN) monitor that's properly calibrated and profiled (I'm very glad
  I recently upgraded my monitor), but if your equipment is up to snuff at
  your end, they certainly seem to have a handle on their profiles and
  equipment calibration at their end!
 
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Re: Blurb.com book arrived

[David Savage]

Hate to say it, bit I told you all so :-)

Now I need to hurry up  put mine together.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/5/15 Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Got my first prototype today and the verdict is...

 Wow!

 I was expecting to be really disappointed in the reproduction quality.
 Maybe it's because I didn't get my hopes up but I'm *really* impressed
 with the results. Front and back cover (full glossy) both look
 spectacular. The semi-matte interior pages look excellent. I've been
 trying to find nits to pick but just can't come up with any as far as
 the quality of the end product is concerned.

 The price is a bit steep, but that's not too surprising for small-batch
 (one!) custom print jobs like this. I'm going to revise the book, adding
 more pages: I kept it small to start with because I didn't want to
 invest much time into a project that I was sure would disappoint me.
 I've never been happier to be wrong!

 I wouldn't recommend trying this service unless you have a high quality
 (not TN) monitor that's properly calibrated and profiled (I'm very glad
 I recently upgraded my monitor), but if your equipment is up to snuff at
 your end, they certainly seem to have a handle on their profiles and
 equipment calibration at their end!

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Re: Blurb.com book arrived

[Mark Roberts]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good to know. i have a dream cruise book ready. Thought I had a publisher, 
 but with the economy going south, they bailed. I may try to publish it 
 myself. 

Download their printer profile for soft-proofing and you'll be amazed 
with the results.


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Re: Blurb.com book arrived

[Ken Waller]

I was @ Shain Park Saturday  thought I might see some of your work there 
but I didn't. Out of 200 exhibitors, 25 were photographers. I was very 
impressed with the quality of the work shown. A high number of the photogs 
were still using film.

You car shots would have been perfect.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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Subject: Re: Blurb.com book arrived


 Good to know. i have a dream cruise book ready. Thought I had a publisher, 
 but with the economy going south, they bailed. I may try to publish it 
 myself.
 Paul
 -- Original message --
 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 TN.??

 Dave

 On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Got my first prototype today and the verdict is...
 
  Wow!
 
  I was expecting to be really disappointed in the reproduction quality.
  Maybe it's because I didn't get my hopes up but I'm *really* impressed
  with the results. Front and back cover (full glossy) both look
  spectacular. The semi-matte interior pages look excellent. I've been
  trying to find nits to pick but just can't come up with any as far as
  the quality of the end product is concerned.
 
  The price is a bit steep, but that's not too surprising for small-batch
  (one!) custom print jobs like this. I'm going to revise the book, 
  adding
  more pages: I kept it small to start with because I didn't want to
  invest much time into a project that I was sure would disappoint me.
  I've never been happier to be wrong!
 
  I wouldn't recommend trying this service unless you have a high quality
  (not TN) monitor that's properly calibrated and profiled (I'm very glad
  I recently upgraded my monitor), but if your equipment is up to snuff 
  at
  your end, they certainly seem to have a handle on their profiles and
  equipment calibration at their end!
 
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