Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 10:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think photography tends to breed equipment junkies, doesn't it??? It is one hundred percent certain to me that subscribing to the PDML is what does it. I'm quite happy with what I have when I'm not reading the list (embarrased, actually). When I'm reading the list I start obsessing over what lens or lenses should be next, and I waste tons of time researching minutiae about lens X vs Y and all kinds of other time wasting, money burning pursuits. AAARRGHH. Sigh... Got to go (there's a couple things on eBay I've been watching ...), Dan Scott
Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
I've just done the same thing, went away for five days with the MX, K30, M50 1.4, ST 105, SMCT 300 and a Moskva 5 which is of course a Russian copy of a Super Ikonta. The 6x7 and the big glass stayed at home, and I took a monopod intsead of a tripod. The mix of k-mount and screw mount lenses was a mistake without having a body to dedicate to the screw mount glass. In retrospect I should have taken along the MZ5n as well, but I was trying to travel light. I wasn't there for serious photography, so dragging everything with me when I went for a walk was too annoying. I'd forgotten to bring a spare rear cap for the 50 1.4, so when I took it off to use the 300 I had no way of keeping it safe, so I left it in the car when I went to look at some nesting seagulls, then found that I needed a wider angle or closer focussing distance at times. Maybe I'll get a dedicated backpack after all, but I suspect that I'll spend the rest of my life either having too much or too little equipment with me. I used an old Spotmeter K with the Moskva 5 which was fine, but I really need some sort of holster for the Spotmeter, or maybe attach a clip or a cord to the tripod mount so I can hang it from my belt. It's not exactly an action camera, but its just fine for landscapes and other things that don't move. I wouldn't dream of taking the 6x7 for a stroll along the beach, but with the Moskva snug in its ER case there was no worries. The weather was pretty bad, lots of rain and high winds, but there were a couple of times when the sun shone long enough to burn a bit of film. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 12:05 PM Subject: RE: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT I would never take my P67 on a vacation, way too bulky once you consider taking a few lenses. For medium format on the go, I like my folding RF Zeiss Super Ikonta C ( 6X9 cm ).
Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
Help! I'm in a bit of a quagmire. Well, not really. I just have some spare time today so I decided to ask the group this question: Have you ever brought two different camera systems on vacation? Specifically I am referring to a Pentax K-mount system with 2 bodies, 4 lenses plus an M42 to K-mount adapter plus a Pentax screwmount body with two lenses. The purpose of bringing along the screwmount stuff is solely for BW photos plus the chance to use the lenses (35mm/f3.5 135mm/f3.5) on the K-mount body for slides and print photos. Personnally I would only bring two K bodies (instead of 2 K and 1 S): one with BW and one with colour. But I would mix screw mount lenses (with adapter) with K-mount lenses. There is a way you can have a screw mount lens lock on K-mount bodies. It needs a little machine shop job done on the adapter and the lens. I find that the screwmount lenses, even though not exactly fast, provide me quite excellent picture quality. Because of that (Asahi screwmount lenses' quality) and because of their rather low market value (I was a poor student back then) I have made two trips with SMC-Takumar lenses (28/3.5, 55/1.8 and 100/4 macro) and a MX + a Spotmatic (and later 2 MXs) and was more than pleased with their optical quality and did not bother stop-down metering and switching the 28mm and the 55mm from one body to another by unscrewing and screwing. (The 100mm was only used for special macro sessions.) Andre --
Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
- Original Message - From: andre Subject: Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT There is a way you can have a screw mount lens lock on K-mount bodies. It needs a little machine shop job done on the adapter and the lens. Could you expand on that please, Andre? Thanks William Robb
M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
Help! I'm in a bit of a quagmire. Well, not really. I just have some spare time today so I decided to ask the group this question: Have you ever brought two different camera systems on vacation? Specifically I am referring to a Pentax K-mount system with 2 bodies, 4 lenses plus an M42 to K-mount adapter plus a Pentax screwmount body with two lenses. The purpose of bringing along the screwmount stuff is solely for BW photos plus the chance to use the lenses (35mm/f3.5 135mm/f3.5) on the K-mount body for slides and print photos. I find that the screwmount lenses, even though not exactly fast, provide me quite excellent picture quality. The alternative would be to bring just k-mount stuff and two bodies and just alternate color print film with BW film and have one body devoted entirely to slide film. I am contemplating doing this when I go on vacation. I just want everyones opinion on the pros and cons of doing so. Not really mandatory to answer. Even off-list would suffice. Thanks and have a nice day. Francis M. Alviar Irvine, CA __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
- Original Message - From: Francis Alviar Subject: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT Have you ever brought two different camera systems on vacation? Yes, 35mm and 4x5. Or more recently, 35mm and 6x7. I might have taken all 3 on a trip once. William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
On my recent vacation to the Magdellan Islands in the Gulf of St. Lawrence, I brought my MX, along with a k-mount short zoom, a long zoom and a wide angle prime. I also brought my Leica CL. I used the k-mount stuff for colour, and the CL for bw. I brought the CL in addition to the MX as it's an inconspicuous little people shooter - even moreso than the MX. - and I knew I'd be going to lots of parties, barbeques and the like... regards, frank Francis Alviar wrote: Have you ever brought two different camera systems on vacation? -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
Francis Alviar wrote: Have you ever brought two different camera systems on vacation? I do it all the time: 35mm and 645. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
RE: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
I would never take my P67 on a vacation, way too bulky once you consider taking a few lenses. For medium format on the go, I like my folding RF Zeiss Super Ikonta C ( 6X9 cm ). It's got a sharp Tessar Lens ( when stopped down to f8 or smaller) and its actually smaller than a 35mm SLR when folded. Sure, you only get 1 lens ( 105mm F3.8 ), but it sure is light and small and the quality still blows away 35mm even with the ancient lens. JCO -Original Message- From: wendy beard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT At 16:05 19-9-2002 -0400, you wrote: From: Francis Alviar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Help! I'm in a bit of a quagmire. Well, not really. I just have some spare time today so I decided to ask the group this question: Have you ever brought two different camera systems on vacation? All the time. Minolta 600si plus two zooms (before I owned a Pentax AF) and MX with 24-50. 67 with 55 and 105 and MZ-S/MX with 24-90, 20 and 43 on the last vacation (and a digital Ixus, but that doesn't count) It's amazing what you can fit into a lowepro mini trekker if you really try Wendy --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
Yes, On a recent trip to Savannah, GA I took everything because I couldn't make a decision concerning what NOT to carry. Someday, I hope this changes as lugging three camera bags on vacation is a pain. I guess I carry the motto Be prepared too far. I took all of my K-mount manual bodies(3), K-mount auto-focus bodies(2) and a Spotmatic. I also carried six AF, four K-mount MF, and four M42 lenses plus tripod crap, film out the wazoo, a diffuser and three pairs of binoculars(Pentax, Nikon and Minolta). Three flash units. I used my Zx5n with FA 50/1.4 the most, with my PZ1p and SMC K 35/3.5 next. My wife actually took some pics of me with our 7 month old daughter using the Spotmatic and Super Takumar 50/1.4. I also used my Tamron 70-300/4.0-5.6 a good bit on the ZX5n. On walks in the city and on the beach at Tybee Island I would choose one body/lens. While at Bonaventure Cemetery(of Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil fame) I shot with PZ1p and SMC K 35/3.5 and ZX5n with 70-300. My wife and I discussed my need to whittle down my kit for traveling or make an appointment with a psychiatrist. I think photography tends to breed equipment junkies, doesn't it??? Robert ___ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com
Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
- Original Message - From: Robert Woerner Subject: Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT Yes, On a recent trip to Savannah, GA I took everything because I couldn't make a decision concerning what NOT to carry. Someday, I hope this changes as lugging three camera bags on vacation is a pain. I guess I carry the motto Be prepared too far. Don't feel bad, on my trip, I took 3 35mm bodies, lenses in every focal length from 16mm to 300, and cursed that I forgot my longer telephotos, my 6x7 and 7 lenses, 2 hand meters and a digital camera. OTOH, I used it all. William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
In a message dated 9/19/02 10:28:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, On a recent trip to Savannah, GA I took everything because I couldn't make a decision concerning what NOT to carry. Someday, I hope this changes as lugging three camera bags on vacation is a pain. I guess I carry the motto Be prepared too far. I took all of my K-mount manual bodies(3), K-mount auto-focus bodies(2) and a Spotmatic. I also carried six AF, four K-mount MF, and four M42 lenses plus tripod crap, film out the wazoo, a diffuser and three pairs of binoculars(Pentax, Nikon and Minolta). Three flash units. I used my Zx5n with FA 50/1.4 the most, with my PZ1p and SMC K 35/3.5 next. My wife actually took some pics of me with our 7 month old daughter using the Spotmatic and Super Takumar 50/1.4. I also used my Tamron 70-300/4.0-5.6 a good bit on the ZX5n. On walks in the city and on the beach at Tybee Island I would choose one body/lens. While at Bonaventure Cemetery(of Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil fame) I shot with PZ1p and SMC K 35/3.5 and ZX5n with 70-300. My wife and I discussed my need to whittle down my kit for traveling or make an appointment with a psychiatrist. I think photography tends to breed equipment junkies, doesn't it??? Robert Robert you gotta simplify man. Taking too much will not get you any better photos, you're better to take one body and a couple of zooms than too much equipment. You'll be too tired lugging it around with you to focus on photography. I usually take a basic travelling kit. One camera (LX) two zooms covering 28mm 105 and 70 to 200 or 300mm. This basic kit is good for a day out if I want to go light. Then I cherry pick. Another body, likely autofocus (PZ1) and a few favourite lenses - 100mm macro, 24, 35, 300A* plus flash. I might take a third body for print film ... and of course a tripod. If I know I will be shooting alot , especially from the car, I'll pack more gear in a separate bag, but if it's a family vacation the above is likely more than enough. Vic
Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
Francis Alviar asked: Have you ever brought two different camera systems on vacation? Specifically I am referring to a Pentax K-mount system with 2 bodies, 4 lenses plus an M42 to K-mount adapter plus a Pentax screwmount body with two lenses. It depends on how you define vacation. For the last couple of Pennsic Wars I took along all my K-mount gear and all my M42 gear, and last year I even brought along a Konica with two lenses and a 2X teleconverter as a last-ditch emergency backup. But I didn't carry all of that everywhere I went, and as much as Pennsic is vacation-ish to me, I don't exactly spend the week goofing off -- I try to sell photos, this year I spent a lot of time selling CDs, I perform, I network, I might attend some classes, and I consider it a time I should be working on photography as an art, not just taking vacation snapshots. All of those _can_ be construed as work, though I spend a lot more time hanging out and socializing and shopping than I do the rest of the year, and I don't do any _computer_ work while I'm there. Whether I call Pennsic a vacation varies from day to day. *shrug* Of course, I figure most of us on this list consider vacations a chance to spend time on the art of photography, and some (besides myself) consider a vacation an excuse or framework for a shooting expedition, so that detail alone doesn't make Pennsic a non-vacation. Now the way Pennsic works is that I arrive, set up camp, and leave my tent in one place the whole time. So dragging a whole lot of stuff up there makes sense, since I won't have to worry about packing it all up again until it's time to go home. In camp I've got the cooler of film, the bodies and lenses I'm not using at the moment, the emergency backup bodies and flashes, etc. I can load up with 64000 ASA film for nighttime, and if I don't get to the end of the roll by dawn, I can throw that camera in the tent and grab another to load with 100 or 400 to use until evening rolls around again. I expect to shoot everything from macro to landscapes, still life to sports (battle photos), portraits, and architecture, so I come prepared for everything. (I got hired to shoot engagement pictures while I was there this year, BTW.) On the other hand, what I _do_ typically carry around with me is three bodies (four if I'm shooting IR), and anywhere from one to four lenses in addition to the ones mounted on the cameras. That's the size of the entire kit you're talking about taking with you, so you won't be carrying any more gear than I walk around with. On the gripping hand, that _is_ a lot of weight and it will get tiring to lug around all day. I'm not saying don't do it -- I do, after all -- but just be aware that what's easy for an hour gets pretty tiring after four or six hours. The question to ask yourself is how much is this a goofing-off vacation, how much is it a do these various things on my list of fun things vacation, and how much is it, Oh goody, I get to go photograph that city now! shooting expedition in the context of a vacation. And how long afterwards will you kick yourself if you see a shot you can't get the way you want because you're not carrying the extra gear you thought about and didn't bring. If that's an oops, oh well moment for you and the trip isn't really an excuse for a photo safari, go with a lighter pack for walking around. If you'll spend the next five years telling people, I can't believe I wasn't prepared for that shot!, either drag the whole kit around (my solution) or get therapy. ;-) -- Glenn
