Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[Bob Pdml]

The BBC has an interesting analysis:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-57860998

On 17 Jul 2021, at 12:35, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

"This thing waswell organised. There was plenty of intelligence on social
media which
was simply ignored."

Hmmm.  Where have I heard that before?

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 1:59 PM Alan C  wrote:

Thanks, Mark.

The authorities & vigilantes seem to have tamed the hot-spots but
everyone will need to be wide awake 24/7 going forward. This thing was
well organised. There was plenty of intelligence on social media which
was simply ignored.
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Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[Daniel J. Matyola]

"This thing waswell organised. There was plenty of intelligence on social
media which
was simply ignored."

Hmmm.  Where have I heard that before?

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On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 1:59 PM Alan C  wrote:

> Thanks, Mark.
>
> The authorities & vigilantes seem to have tamed the hot-spots but
> everyone will need to be wide awake 24/7 going forward. This thing was
> well organised. There was plenty of intelligence on social media which
> was simply ignored.
>
> Alan C
>
> On 16-Jul-21 06:39 PM, Mark C wrote:
> > Sorry to hear that, Alan. I've seen a few references to the situation
> > in the news but had no idea it was so widespread. I hope you and your
> > family are able to stay safe.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On 7/15/2021 6:32 AM, Alan C wrote:
> >> Just to let you know.
> >>
> >> Sparked by the imprisonment of former President Jacob Zuma, South
> >> Africa has descended into a near state of anarchy in several densely
> >> populated areas no doubt orchestrated by Zuma supporters. The level
> >> of destruction is very serious & will lead to many problems in the
> >> near future especially the distribution of essential goods because
> >> delivery trucks have been burned on the highways too.
> >>
> >> The authorities have been slow to react but Taxi Associations &
> >> vigilanties are fighting back to save their infrastructure from
> >> pillage. The Police & Army have been overwhelmed.
> >>
> >> Fortunately there are no problems in the Lowveld yet but roadblocks
> >> have been set up on the main roads into Phalaborwa as a precaution
> >> after intelligence suggested that hordes may be on their way.
> >>
> >> Please look on the internet if you want more details & commentary.
> >>
> >>
> >> Alan C
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Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[Alan C]

Thanks, Mark.

The authorities & vigilantes seem to have tamed the hot-spots but 
everyone will need to be wide awake 24/7 going forward. This thing was 
well organised. There was plenty of intelligence on social media which 
was simply ignored.


Alan C

On 16-Jul-21 06:39 PM, Mark C wrote:
Sorry to hear that, Alan. I've seen a few references to the situation 
in the news but had no idea it was so widespread. I hope you and your 
family are able to stay safe.


Mark

On 7/15/2021 6:32 AM, Alan C wrote:

Just to let you know.

Sparked by the imprisonment of former President Jacob Zuma, South 
Africa has descended into a near state of anarchy in several densely 
populated areas no doubt orchestrated by Zuma supporters. The level 
of destruction is very serious & will lead to many problems in the 
near future especially the distribution of essential goods because 
delivery trucks have been burned on the highways too.


The authorities have been slow to react but Taxi Associations & 
vigilanties are fighting back to save their infrastructure from 
pillage. The Police & Army have been overwhelmed.


Fortunately there are no problems in the Lowveld yet but roadblocks 
have been set up on the main roads into Phalaborwa as a precaution 
after intelligence suggested that hordes may be on their way.


Please look on the internet if you want more details & commentary.


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Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[Mark C]

Sorry to hear that, Alan. I've seen a few references to the situation in 
the news but had no idea it was so widespread. I hope you and your 
family are able to stay safe.


Mark

On 7/15/2021 6:32 AM, Alan C wrote:

Just to let you know.

Sparked by the imprisonment of former President Jacob Zuma, South 
Africa has descended into a near state of anarchy in several densely 
populated areas no doubt orchestrated by Zuma supporters. The level of 
destruction is very serious & will lead to many problems in the near 
future especially the distribution of essential goods because delivery 
trucks have been burned on the highways too.


The authorities have been slow to react but Taxi Associations & 
vigilanties are fighting back to save their infrastructure from 
pillage. The Police & Army have been overwhelmed.


Fortunately there are no problems in the Lowveld yet but roadblocks 
have been set up on the main roads into Phalaborwa as a precaution 
after intelligence suggested that hordes may be on their way.


Please look on the internet if you want more details & commentary.


Alan C
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Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[ann sanfedele]

The sky is falling all over the world in so many ways..

 Glad you are in a "fairly remote" area..

ann

On 7/16/2021 2:52 AM, Alan C wrote:
Thanks all for your concern. Fortunately we are in a fairly remote 
part of SA so well away from the trouble.


Criminals are still taking advantage of the situation where they can. 
Yesterday they robbed & vandalised a Crematorium & a Psychiatric 
Hospital - can you believe it? Tragic for all the targeted business 
owners who have lost so much. An amnesty has been proposed for looters 
to return goods without fear of prosecution. One commentator said 
yesterday that "concerned" politicians don't have a leg to stand on 
because they have been looting state funds from metaphorical 
supermarkets for years! Zuma supporters & incompetents lurking in the 
Cabinet have now been exposed. A major Cabinet re-shuffle can't be far 
away.


Alan C

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Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[Alan C]

Thanks all for your concern. Fortunately we are in a fairly remote part 
of SA so well away from the trouble.


Criminals are still taking advantage of the situation where they can. 
Yesterday they robbed & vandalised a Crematorium & a Psychiatric 
Hospital - can you believe it? Tragic for all the targeted business 
owners who have lost so much. An amnesty has been proposed for looters 
to return goods without fear of prosecution. One commentator said 
yesterday that "concerned" politicians don't have a leg to stand on 
because they have been looting state funds from metaphorical 
supermarkets for years! Zuma supporters & incompetents lurking in the 
Cabinet have now been exposed. A major Cabinet re-shuffle can't be far away.


Alan C

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Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[Paul Sorenson]

Stay safe, Alan.

-p

On 7/15/2021 5:32 AM, Alan C wrote:

Just to let you know.

Sparked by the imprisonment of former President Jacob Zuma, South 
Africa has descended into a near state of anarchy in several densely 
populated areas no doubt orchestrated by Zuma supporters. The level of 
destruction is very serious & will lead to many problems in the near 
future especially the distribution of essential goods because delivery 
trucks have been burned on the highways too.


The authorities have been slow to react but Taxi Associations & 
vigilanties are fighting back to save their infrastructure from 
pillage. The Police & Army have been overwhelmed.


Fortunately there are no problems in the Lowveld yet but roadblocks 
have been set up on the main roads into Phalaborwa as a precaution 
after intelligence suggested that hordes may be on their way.


Please look on the internet if you want more details & commentary.


Alan C
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Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[P. J. Alling]

Stay safe.

On 7/15/2021 6:32 AM, Alan C wrote:

Just to let you know.

Sparked by the imprisonment of former President Jacob Zuma, South 
Africa has descended into a near state of anarchy in several densely 
populated areas no doubt orchestrated by Zuma supporters. The level of 
destruction is very serious & will lead to many problems in the near 
future especially the distribution of essential goods because delivery 
trucks have been burned on the highways too.


The authorities have been slow to react but Taxi Associations & 
vigilanties are fighting back to save their infrastructure from 
pillage. The Police & Army have been overwhelmed.


Fortunately there are no problems in the Lowveld yet but roadblocks 
have been set up on the main roads into Phalaborwa as a precaution 
after intelligence suggested that hordes may be on their way.


Please look on the internet if you want more details & commentary.


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Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[Brian W]

Yes - we've been hearing about the riots via a contact my wife has in SA - and
on our local news channels. Sounds very frightening. I hope the army and police
can restore order soon.

Keep yourself out of harm's way.


Best wishes
Brian

> On 15 July 2021 at 20:32 Alan C  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just to let you know.
> 
> Sparked by the imprisonment of former President Jacob Zuma, South Africa 
> has descended into a near state of anarchy in several densely populated 
> areas no doubt orchestrated by Zuma supporters. The level of destruction 
> is very serious & will lead to many problems in the near future 
> especially the distribution of essential goods because delivery trucks 
> have been burned on the highways too.
> 
> The authorities have been slow to react but Taxi Associations & 
> vigilanties are fighting back to save their infrastructure from pillage. 
> The Police & Army have been overwhelmed.
> 
> Fortunately there are no problems in the Lowveld yet but roadblocks have 
> been set up on the main roads into Phalaborwa as a precaution after 
> intelligence suggested that hordes may be on their way.
> 
> Please look on the internet if you want more details & commentary.
> 
> 
> Alan C
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Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Stay safe, and let us know how you are doing when you con.

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On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 6:33 AM Alan C  wrote:

> Just to let you know.
>
> Sparked by the imprisonment of former President Jacob Zuma, South Africa
> has descended into a near state of anarchy in several densely populated
> areas no doubt orchestrated by Zuma supporters. The level of destruction
> is very serious & will lead to many problems in the near future
> especially the distribution of essential goods because delivery trucks
> have been burned on the highways too.
>
> The authorities have been slow to react but Taxi Associations &
> vigilanties are fighting back to save their infrastructure from pillage.
> The Police & Army have been overwhelmed.
>
> Fortunately there are no problems in the Lowveld yet but roadblocks have
> been set up on the main roads into Phalaborwa as a precaution after
> intelligence suggested that hordes may be on their way.
>
> Please look on the internet if you want more details & commentary.
>
>
> Alan C
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Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[mike wilson]

Best of luck, Alan.

> On 15 July 2021 at 11:32 Alan C  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just to let you know.
> 
> Sparked by the imprisonment of former President Jacob Zuma, South Africa 
> has descended into a near state of anarchy in several densely populated 
> areas no doubt orchestrated by Zuma supporters. The level of destruction 
> is very serious & will lead to many problems in the near future 
> especially the distribution of essential goods because delivery trucks 
> have been burned on the highways too.
> 
> The authorities have been slow to react but Taxi Associations & 
> vigilanties are fighting back to save their infrastructure from pillage. 
> The Police & Army have been overwhelmed.
> 
> Fortunately there are no problems in the Lowveld yet but roadblocks have 
> been set up on the main roads into Phalaborwa as a precaution after 
> intelligence suggested that hordes may be on their way.
> 
> Please look on the internet if you want more details & commentary.
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OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

[Alan C]

Just to let you know.

Sparked by the imprisonment of former President Jacob Zuma, South Africa 
has descended into a near state of anarchy in several densely populated 
areas no doubt orchestrated by Zuma supporters. The level of destruction 
is very serious & will lead to many problems in the near future 
especially the distribution of essential goods because delivery trucks 
have been burned on the highways too.


The authorities have been slow to react but Taxi Associations & 
vigilanties are fighting back to save their infrastructure from pillage. 
The Police & Army have been overwhelmed.


Fortunately there are no problems in the Lowveld yet but roadblocks have 
been set up on the main roads into Phalaborwa as a precaution after 
intelligence suggested that hordes may be on their way.


Please look on the internet if you want more details & commentary.


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