Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-06 Thread graywolf

Hummm...?

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
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P. J. Alling wrote:

Actually the Honeywell deal, was the other way around.  Pentax wanted 
to get control of their own distribution in a major market.  Without 
Pentax Honeywell had nothing of any substance to sell...


graywolf wrote:

First Minolta bought Textronics which made them broke. Then Konica 
bought Minolta which probably made them broke. Wonder who will buy 
Konica now? GRIN


OTOH, probably the only reason that they are not available in Canada 
is that the independent distributor went belly up. As soon as they 
find a new one they will most likely be back. This kind of thing 
happens in markets too small for the company to set up their own 
distributorship. Even in the US, remember when Honeywell was the 
Pentax distributor? When they went out of the photography business 
Pentax had to take over themselves. The US was too big a market to 
ignor.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---



P. J. Alling wrote:

Apparently Konolta is in worse shape than we thought.  (Now here's 
something to start a stampede away from a brand name).


Christian wrote:


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05100302nokmdcs_4ca.asp

Sales and distribution of Digital/35mm cameras, film scanners, 
binoculars, photo meters, and their accessories will however cease 
in Canada.


What did the Canucks do this time?  ;-)  No soup for you!

Christian














Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-05 Thread David Mann

On Oct 5, 2005, at 4:52 PM, William Robb wrote:


You can solve a lot of problems with a chainsaw.


To alcohol!  The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
  -- Homer Simpson




Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually the Honeywell deal, was the other way around.  Pentax wanted to 
get control of their own distribution in a major market.  Without Pentax 
Honeywell had nothing of any substance to sell...


graywolf wrote:

First Minolta bought Textronics which made them broke. Then Konica 
bought Minolta which probably made them broke. Wonder who will buy 
Konica now? GRIN


OTOH, probably the only reason that they are not available in Canada 
is that the independent distributor went belly up. As soon as they 
find a new one they will most likely be back. This kind of thing 
happens in markets too small for the company to set up their own 
distributorship. Even in the US, remember when Honeywell was the 
Pentax distributor? When they went out of the photography business 
Pentax had to take over themselves. The US was too big a market to ignor.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---



P. J. Alling wrote:

Apparently Konolta is in worse shape than we thought.  (Now here's 
something to start a stampede away from a brand name).


Christian wrote:


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05100302nokmdcs_4ca.asp

Sales and distribution of Digital/35mm cameras, film scanners, 
binoculars, photo meters, and their accessories will however cease 
in Canada.


What did the Canucks do this time?  ;-)  No soup for you!

Christian










--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-05 Thread David Mann

On Oct 5, 2005, at 9:05 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Actually the Honeywell deal, was the other way around.  Pentax  
wanted to get control of their own distribution in a major market.   
Without Pentax Honeywell had nothing of any substance to sell...


Is that the same Honeywell that's currently valued at $31 billion  
(and was nearly sold in 2000 to General Electric for $45b)?


Darn it, now I'm going to have to read Asterix and the Goths again...

- Dave



Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-05 Thread Tom Reese
William Robb wrote:

 You can solve a lot of problems with a chainsaw.

I suppose so but I think dynamite is a more elegant solution.

Tom Reese



Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-05 Thread Powell Hargrave
You's guys are really crude.  I've always gone with vice grips and a bigger
hammer.

Powell


William Robb wrote:

 You can solve a lot of problems with a chainsaw.

I suppose so but I think dynamite is a more elegant solution.

Tom Reese




Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Well I was speaking Photographically, (their Heiland division), the rest 
of the company was doing quite well actually...


David Mann wrote:


On Oct 5, 2005, at 9:05 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Actually the Honeywell deal, was the other way around.  Pentax  
wanted to get control of their own distribution in a major market.   
Without Pentax Honeywell had nothing of any substance to sell...



Is that the same Honeywell that's currently valued at $31 billion  
(and was nearly sold in 2000 to General Electric for $45b)?


Darn it, now I'm going to have to read Asterix and the Goths again...

- Dave





--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-05 Thread P. J. Alling
There's no problem in human relations that can't be solved by the proper 
application of high explosives.


Tom Reese wrote:


William Robb wrote:

 


You can solve a lot of problems with a chainsaw.
   



I suppose so but I think dynamite is a more elegant solution.

Tom Reese


 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




RE: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-04 Thread Tom C
They are however, able to buy more chainsaw brands than all the other 3rd 
world countries combined.   ;-)  That makes up for it.


Tom C.





From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 17:00:37 -0400

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05100302nokmdcs_4ca.asp

Sales and distribution of Digital/35mm cameras, film scanners, binoculars, 
photo meters, and their accessories will however cease in Canada.


What did the Canucks do this time?  ;-)  No soup for you!

Christian






Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-04 Thread graywolf
First Minolta bought Textronics which made them broke. Then Konica 
bought Minolta which probably made them broke. Wonder who will buy 
Konica now? GRIN


OTOH, probably the only reason that they are not available in Canada is 
that the independent distributor went belly up. As soon as they find a 
new one they will most likely be back. This kind of thing happens in 
markets too small for the company to set up their own distributorship. 
Even in the US, remember when Honeywell was the Pentax distributor? When 
they went out of the photography business Pentax had to take over 
themselves. The US was too big a market to ignor.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---



P. J. Alling wrote:

Apparently Konolta is in worse shape than we thought.  (Now here's 
something to start a stampede away from a brand name).


Christian wrote:


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05100302nokmdcs_4ca.asp

Sales and distribution of Digital/35mm cameras, film scanners, 
binoculars, photo meters, and their accessories will however cease in 
Canada.


What did the Canucks do this time?  ;-)  No soup for you!

Christian








Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-04 Thread Adam Maas
Konica Minolta Canada was a wholly owned subsidiary of KM. They've now 
got a Independant Distributer, but before it was directly owned.


-Adam



graywolf wrote:
First Minolta bought Textronics which made them broke. Then Konica 
bought Minolta which probably made them broke. Wonder who will buy 
Konica now? GRIN


OTOH, probably the only reason that they are not available in Canada is 
that the independent distributor went belly up. As soon as they find a 
new one they will most likely be back. This kind of thing happens in 
markets too small for the company to set up their own distributorship. 
Even in the US, remember when Honeywell was the Pentax distributor? When 
they went out of the photography business Pentax had to take over 
themselves. The US was too big a market to ignor.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---



P. J. Alling wrote:

Apparently Konolta is in worse shape than we thought.  (Now here's 
something to start a stampede away from a brand name).


Christian wrote:


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05100302nokmdcs_4ca.asp

Sales and distribution of Digital/35mm cameras, film scanners, 
binoculars, photo meters, and their accessories will however cease in 
Canada.


What did the Canucks do this time?  ;-)  No soup for you!

Christian








Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-04 Thread Bob Shell


On Tuesday, October 4, 2005, at 11:39  AM, graywolf wrote:

First Minolta bought Textronics which made them broke. Then Konica  
bought Minolta which probably made them broke. Wonder who will buy  
Konica now? GRIN


OTOH, probably the only reason that they are not available in Canada  
is that the independent distributor went belly up. As soon as they  
find a new one they will most likely be back. This kind of thing  
happens in markets too small for the company to set up their own  
distributorship. Even in the US, remember when Honeywell was the  
Pentax distributor? When they went out of the photography business  
Pentax had to take over themselves. The US was too big a market to  
ignor.




Here's a link to the Forbes story:


http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited/feeds/afx/2005/09/07/ 
afx2212074.html



Bob



Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-04 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Tom C

Subject: RE: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada


They are however, able to buy more chainsaw brands than all the other 3rd 
world countries combined.   ;-)  That makes up for it.


You can solve a lot of problems with a chainsaw.

William Robb 





OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-03 Thread Christian

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05100302nokmdcs_4ca.asp

Sales and distribution of Digital/35mm cameras, film scanners, binoculars, 
photo meters, and their accessories will however cease in Canada.


What did the Canucks do this time?  ;-)  No soup for you!

Christian 



Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-03 Thread keith_w

Christian wrote:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05100302nokmdcs_4ca.asp

Sales and distribution of Digital/35mm cameras, film scanners, 
binoculars, photo meters, and their accessories will however cease in 
Canada.


What did the Canucks do this time?  ;-)  No soup for you!

Christian


Now, THAT's a puzzlement, isn't it...

Not a clue here.

keith

Unless it was the terminally stupid corporate name they chose for their new 
conglomerate identity.




Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On 10/3/05, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05100302nokmdcs_4ca.asp

 Sales and distribution of Digital/35mm cameras, film scanners, binoculars,
 photo meters, and their accessories will however cease in Canada.

 What did the Canucks do this time?  ;-)  No soup for you!


I think it was Dave Brooks' fault...

-frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-03 Thread Adam Maas

keith_w wrote:


Christian wrote:


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05100302nokmdcs_4ca.asp

Sales and distribution of Digital/35mm cameras, film scanners, 
binoculars, photo meters, and their accessories will however cease in 
Canada.


What did the Canucks do this time?  ;-)  No soup for you!

Christian



Now, THAT's a puzzlement, isn't it...

Not a clue here.

keith

Unless it was the terminally stupid corporate name they chose for 
their new conglomerate identity.


More like not having distribution in Canada's major Photo chain, Black's 
(Which carries Pentax, Nikon, Olympus and Canon, but  not KM, likely due 
to Black's going massively over to digital a couple years ago)


-Adam



Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Apparently Konolta is in worse shape than we thought.  (Now here's 
something to start a stampede away from a brand name).


Christian wrote:


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05100302nokmdcs_4ca.asp

Sales and distribution of Digital/35mm cameras, film scanners, 
binoculars, photo meters, and their accessories will however cease in 
Canada.


What did the Canucks do this time?  ;-)  No soup for you!

Christian




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-03 Thread Tom Reese
Christian wrote:

 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05100302nokmdcs_4ca.asp

 Sales and distribution of Digital/35mm cameras, film scanners,
binoculars,
 photo meters, and their accessories will however cease in Canada.

 What did the Canucks do this time?  ;-)  No soup for you!

I think it's what they didn't do (buy enough Konolta cameras).

I hope Brooksie and Theriault can live with their guilty consciences. I
don't think Robb will have any trouble. He doesn't appear to have one.

Tom Reese




Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-03 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Christian

Subject: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada



http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05100302nokmdcs_4ca.asp

Sales and distribution of Digital/35mm cameras, film scanners, 
binoculars, photo meters, and their accessories will however cease in 
Canada.


What did the Canucks do this time?  ;-) ..


Apparently, we don't buy their product.

William Robb 





Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada

2005-10-03 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Tom Reese

Subject: Re: OT - Konolta to cease digi sales in Canada




I hope Brooksie and Theriault can live with their guilty consciences. I
don't think Robb will have any trouble. He doesn't appear to have one.



As part of my mental preparations for becoming a home renovations 
contractor, I felt the concience had to go.


William Robb