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On 25/1/07, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed:
Silly question: What's tear sheets?
Handkerchiefs.
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It sounds like a solicitation for work for hire. Does the client
retain rights to ALL of the images from the shoot or just the 50 or so
images submitted?
Effectively that's what it is but the rights are to the 50 submitted
images only although i'm not sure where I stand if I shoot very
similar
Silly question: What's tear sheets?
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
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graywolf
Sent: 24. januar 2007 18:29
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Tear+Sheets :
tear sheet
n.
A page cut or torn from a periodical and used chiefly to provide
evidence to an advertiser of the publication of an advertisement.
On Jan 25, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:
Silly question: What's tear sheets?
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One question you should ask are the asking for exclusive rights?
Exclusive rights means that they are the only one that can use the
photos. If they are then you can not sell even out takes. But being a
historical organization they my only want unrestricted rights which
means that they can do
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Tear sheets should be a demand that goes with any sale. Tear sheets are
better than portfolio shots because they have obviously been paid for
and published.
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Tear sheets should be a demand that goes with any sale. Tear sheets are
better than portfolio shots because they have obviously been paid for
and published.
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In a message dated 1/24/2007 7:21:07 AM Pacific
On 25/1/07, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed:
Silly question: What's tear sheets?
Handkerchiefs.
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I find that only lower echelon pros include tear sheets in portfolios.
The top guys let their work speak for them, and it's understood
that they're widely published. As far as PDFs are concerned, PDFs,
printed on photo paper, are nice because you get a much more
From:
Patrick Genovese
It sounds like a solicitation for work for hire. Does the client
retain rights to ALL of the images from the shoot or just the 50 or so
images submitted?
Effectively that's what it is but the rights are to the 50 submitted
images only although i'm not sure where I
From:
Tim Øsleby
Silly question: What's tear sheets?
Tim
Literally, the pages from the publication where the images appear. Often
you'll get courtesy copies of the publication and have to tear the
sheets out yourself.
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From:
Patrick Genovese
It sounds like a solicitation for work for hire. Does the client
retain rights to ALL of the images from the shoot or just the 50 or so
images submitted?
Effectively that's what it is but the rights are to the 50 submitted
images only although i'm not sure where I
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Subject: Re: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited
Tear sheets should be a demand that goes with any sale. Tear sheets are
better than portfolio shots because they have obviously been paid for
and published
: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited
Tear sheets should be a demand that goes with any sale. Tear sheets
are
better than portfolio shots because they have obviously been paid
for
and published.
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In a message dated 1/24/2007 7:21:07 AM Pacific Standard Time
Hi everyone,
I've been asked to do a shoot of some historical sites but there is a catch.
1. The client wants full ownership rights to the images. Ie I won't be
able to use the shots for any other purpose.
2. I have to supply a selection of 50 images from which the customer
will make his own
In a message dated 1/24/2007 7:21:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Regards
Patrick Genovese
I am not a professional photographer but I'd have real problems with not
being able to show at least one photo/image in my portfolio. I think you should
insist on
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From: Patrick Genovese
Subject: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited
Hi everyone,
I've been asked to do a shoot of some historical sites but there is a
catch.
1. The client wants full ownership rights to the images. Ie I won't be
able to use the shots
I charge $1500 a day plus expenses for that kind of work in the U.S. That seems
to be about the going rate for a part-time workmanlike photographer. Top
commercial pros charge as much as $30,000 a day, but that buys the client a
crew as well as the photographer.
Paul
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In a message dated 1/24/2007 7:42:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Generally, the photographer can't resell the photos from a commercial shoot
nor can he use them editorially. But in almost all instances, he can include
them in his own portfolio.
Paul
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Curious,
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From: Patrick Genovese
Subject: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited
Hi everyone,
I've been asked to do a shoot of some historical sites but there is a
catch.
1. The client wants full ownership rights to the images. Ie I won't be
able to use the shots for any
I've never seen it spelled out. Generally, it's just assumed that the
photographer will show them in the portfolio if he or she chooses to do so.
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 1/24/2007 7:42:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,
I've been asked to do a shoot of some historical sites but there is a
catch.
1. The client wants full ownership rights to the images. Ie I won't be
able to use the shots for any other purpose.
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Serious question: In such a situation, what would prevent you from
taking two identical
I would guess that what this client is saying is that he wants to purchase
exclusive rights to that particular visual. You can always keep a copy of the
image -- without having to shoot more frames -- although I can't imagine
shooting only one frame on any job. But regardless of how many frames
Joseph Tainter wrote:
Serious question: In such a situation, what would prevent you from
taking two identical digital frames of each shot, providing one to the
client and keeping the second for yourself? If there was ever a
question, the exif information would show that the image you supplied
Tear sheets should be a demand that goes with any sale. Tear sheets are
better than portfolio shots because they have obviously been paid for
and published.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/24/2007 7:21:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Regards
Patrick
Nowadays most pubs send you a PDF of the page layout. Other clients should be
willing to do the same. The PDF is even better than a tear sheet because you
can print it on good photo paper.
Paul
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From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tear sheets
Hi everyone,
Thank you for your advice... Your input is very apreceated.
My thoughts on the matter are a bit clearer now
Regards
Patrick
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From:
Patrick Genovese
Hi everyone,
I've been asked to do a shoot of some historical sites but there is a
catch.
1. The client wants full ownership rights to the images. Ie I won't be
able to use the shots for any other purpose.
2. I have to supply a selection of 50 images from which
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