Re: PESO - A day at the races: OT VESO

[Larry Colen]

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 7:59 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Very enjoyable, Larry.  I look forward to a faster lap (I could knock off a 
> bunch of time)! Perhaps you could consider affixing the Go-Pro to a faster 
> car & getting him to follow you around for lap?

Many years ago, I had a friend I’d play with at the track, we ran very similar 
lap times.  Here are a few videos,  from both his GTI and my MGB. I think that 
two of them are even the same lap.

http://www.red4est.com/jasvids/
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On 27-Aug-22 04:46 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>> This is a slower lap, from Saturday morning. The go pro is mounted in the 
>> grill giving a very different view
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/INoBryyyS-w
>> 
>> 
>> On August 26, 2022 10:56:13 AM PDT, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> I was playing with a gopro for the first time last weekend.  This wasn’t my 
>>> fastest lap but it starts with an amusing lesson on a premature attmept at 
>>> a pass. There are a bunch of places that I could knock off a bunch of time 
>>> by just keeping my foot on the floor and also later and harder braking.  
>>> Last weekend was my first time on sticky tires in about 15 years, I was 
>>> last at this track about 8 years ago, and before that about 15 years ago, 
>>> and it was my first weekend at any track with this car. So, especially with 
>>> the fun I had the day before with brakes,
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGxSUDNwmqQ
>>> 
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Re: PESO - A day at the races: OT VESO

[Alan C]

Very enjoyable, Larry.  I look forward to a faster lap (I could knock 
off a bunch of time)! Perhaps you could consider affixing the Go-Pro to 
a faster car & getting him to follow you around for lap?


Alan C

On 27-Aug-22 04:46 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

This is a slower lap, from Saturday morning. The go pro is mounted in the grill 
giving a very different view

https://youtu.be/INoBryyyS-w


On August 26, 2022 10:56:13 AM PDT, Larry Colen  wrote:

I was playing with a gopro for the first time last weekend.  This wasn’t my 
fastest lap but it starts with an amusing lesson on a premature attmept at a 
pass. There are a bunch of places that I could knock off a bunch of time by 
just keeping my foot on the floor and also later and harder braking.  Last 
weekend was my first time on sticky tires in about 15 years, I was last at this 
track about 8 years ago, and before that about 15 years ago, and it was my 
first weekend at any track with this car. So, especially with the fun I had the 
day before with brakes,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGxSUDNwmqQ


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Re: PESO - A day at the races: OT VESO

[lrc]

This is a slower lap, from Saturday morning. The go pro is mounted in the grill 
giving a very different view

https://youtu.be/INoBryyyS-w


On August 26, 2022 10:56:13 AM PDT, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>I was playing with a gopro for the first time last weekend.  This wasn’t my 
>fastest lap but it starts with an amusing lesson on a premature attmept at a 
>pass. There are a bunch of places that I could knock off a bunch of time by 
>just keeping my foot on the floor and also later and harder braking.  Last 
>weekend was my first time on sticky tires in about 15 years, I was last at 
>this track about 8 years ago, and before that about 15 years ago, and it was 
>my first weekend at any track with this car. So, especially with the fun I had 
>the day before with brakes, 
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGxSUDNwmqQ 
>
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Re: PESO - A day at the races: OT VESO

[Daniel J. Matyola]

NEAT!

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 1:53 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

>
> I was playing with a gopro for the first time last weekend.  This wasn’t
> my fastest lap but it starts with an amusing lesson on a premature attmept
> at a pass. There are a bunch of places that I could knock off a bunch of
> time by just keeping my foot on the floor and also later and harder
> braking.  Last weekend was my first time on sticky tires in about 15 years,
> I was last at this track about 8 years ago, and before that about 15 years
> ago, and it was my first weekend at any track with this car. So, especially
> with the fun I had the day before with brakes,
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGxSUDNwmqQ
>
>
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Re: PESO - A day at the races: OT VESO

[Larry Colen]

> On Aug 26, 2022, at 12:08 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Good video to get an idea of that track.
> 
> 
> I drove the track many years ago before it was redone, during several 
> Bondurant schools. I liked the previous version of the track better than the 
> way it is now.

I hate what the NASCAR chute has done to turns 4 and 7, particularly 7.

I guess that 8, 8A and 9 aren’t as different as they seem, but my mental image 
is totally wrong, and I found that I kept wanting to drive off the “bus stop” 
chicane exiting 8A.   

It is interesting, to me, that as I started carrying more speed, closer to what 
I used to do, it became easier for me as my rhythms came back.  

> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGxSUDNwmqQ
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Re: PESO - A day at the races: OT VESO

[Larry Colen]

> On Aug 26, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Nicely done. Smooth for the most part if not as fast as you might like. Good 
> video.

Thanks, the speed will come.  As they say, you can’t win a track day, but you 
can sure lose.

It was interesting talking to John, it seems that my line through 11 was a bit 
different than a lot of the drivers, as in I got several feet closer to the 
tires than anyone else.


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Re: PESO - A day at the races: OT VESO

[Paul Stenquist]

Nicely done. Smooth for the most part if not as fast as you might like. Good 
video.
Paul

> On Aug 26, 2022, at 1:56 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was playing with a gopro for the first time last weekend.  This wasn’t my 
> fastest lap but it starts with an amusing lesson on a premature attmept at a 
> pass. There are a bunch of places that I could knock off a bunch of time by 
> just keeping my foot on the floor and also later and harder braking.  Last 
> weekend was my first time on sticky tires in about 15 years, I was last at 
> this track about 8 years ago, and before that about 15 years ago, and it was 
> my first weekend at any track with this car. So, especially with the fun I 
> had the day before with brakes, 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGxSUDNwmqQ 
> 
> 
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Re: PESO - A day at the races: OT VESO

[Larry Colen]

I was playing with a gopro for the first time last weekend.  This wasn’t my 
fastest lap but it starts with an amusing lesson on a premature attmept at a 
pass. There are a bunch of places that I could knock off a bunch of time by 
just keeping my foot on the floor and also later and harder braking.  Last 
weekend was my first time on sticky tires in about 15 years, I was last at this 
track about 8 years ago, and before that about 15 years ago, and it was my 
first weekend at any track with this car. So, especially with the fun I had the 
day before with brakes, 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGxSUDNwmqQ 


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Re: PESO - A day at the races

[Larry Colen]

> On Aug 22, 2022, at 8:35 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> 
> (to be strictly accurate it was a weekend at the races)
> 
> Last weekend I accompanied Larry to a club motorsports event
> at Sonoma Raceway.  Larry was driving his Miata, and I thought
> this would be an ideal opportunity to test out my new camera.
> (One reason I bought it was to give me a lighter camera bag
> to carry along when I was photographing motorsports, but this
> was the first time I actually got to try it out for that).
> 
> 
> 
> (Olympus E-M1X + Olympus 40-150/f2.8 @ 150mm, 1/200 sec @ f/16)
> 
> I not only got to try out my new camera - I got to ride around
> in the other seat a few times. This was a lot of fun, but by no
> means uneventful!.  Part way through the first session we lost
> all the brakes. (As I remarked to Larry afterwards, just about
> the last thing you want to hear the driver say is "Oh sh*t!")
> Fortunately this happened at a part of the track where there
> was plenty of room to slow down.

I’m pretty sure that the “Oh Shit” comment was when someone passed me in such a 
way that I had to make an evasive maneuver lest I hit him at the apex, not even 
on the same day as we had fun with the brakes.

My first couple sessions they were getting a bit softer than I expected after a 
couple of laps, since I had added brake vents and put on more aggressive, 
though not full on race brakes.  But it is a street car, and I didn’t go for 
the full on race compounds.  In the third session they were getting much worse, 
much quicker, so I pulled into the hot pits, and that was when the brake pedal 
went to the floor.

It turns out that my recently replaced right rear caliper had a manufacturing 
defect.  Oops.  Fortunately we were able to get a replacement caliper at the 
O’Reilly in Novato, 15 minutes up the road.  Unfortunately that was after the 
final session of the day. 

Sears Point has changed a LOT since I last drove it regularly, and the last 
time I drove it one day 8 years ago, before that about 15 years.  I also 
haven’t been on track at all since November 2019, on race tires since about 
2010, and never in this particular car.  This weekend was pretty much spent 
getting acquainted with the car, reacquainted with the track, and trying to 
remember how to drive.

In short, Saturday’s times were almost as good as I used to turn in my Honda 
Station Wagon or my Ford Cortina. Sunday I started sucking less, and the best 
lap of the session times show which session I actually seemed to remember how 
to drive. I used an app called trackaddict to log my laps.  It’s pretty 
impressive, I spent a fair chunk of coin on a Valentine G-Analyst back in the 
day, and in addition to recording laps using GPS, and OBD-II, it’ll also take 
video with the phone and the videos show the “g-analyst” acceleration circle.  
If I read the data right, it seems to say that my tires are good for 1.5 g’s.   
I definitely need to better learn how to use that app.

I also need to learn how to process the videos from the gopro I bought last 
week also. 

While I’m still leaving a lot of speed on the table by simply not putting my 
foot all of the way to the floor for enough of the track, I am pleased with my 
improvement in “best laptime of the session” over the course of the weekend.

Saturday
session 1, no data.
8/20-2 2:23.627
8/20-3 2:26.500
Sunday
8/21-1 2:24.907
8/21-2 2:20.028 (with passenger, generally costs about 2 seconds a lap)
8/21-3 2:14.604
8/21-4 2:12.390

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PESO - A day at the races

[John Francis]

(to be strictly accurate it was a weekend at the races)

Last weekend I accompanied Larry to a club motorsports event
at Sonoma Raceway.  Larry was driving his Miata, and I thought
this would be an ideal opportunity to test out my new camera.
(One reason I bought it was to give me a lighter camera bag
to carry along when I was photographing motorsports, but this
was the first time I actually got to try it out for that).



(Olympus E-M1X + Olympus 40-150/f2.8 @ 150mm, 1/200 sec @ f/16)

I not only got to try out my new camera - I got to ride around
in the other seat a few times. This was a lot of fun, but by no
means uneventful!.  Part way through the first session we lost
all the brakes. (As I remarked to Larry afterwards, just about
the last thing you want to hear the driver say is "Oh sh*t!")
Fortunately this happened at a part of the track where there
was plenty of room to slow down.

One new brake cylinder later we went out for another session.
This went well, but on the cool-down lap we were flagged down
because there was smoke coming out from under the hood.
Fortunately it was just a filler cap that had worked loose,
but that did necessitate a bit of cleanup work on a hot engine.

I'm putting together a gallery of some of the other shots that
I took over the weekend;  I'll post a link to it when it's done.
Suffice it to say, though, that I'm well satisfied with my new
camera.  It seems odd to be using something else after 50 years
with Pentax, but my shoulders thank me at the end of the day.
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