Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-05-02 Thread Norman Baugher
I use Sistan on anything I want to last. I'll let you know in 25yrs. how it's working :) Norm Thanks for the Sistan tip Aaron William Johnson wrote: I have the first half of the article in front of me (not sure if I ever read the second part) but he does state that using either selenium

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-05-02 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Norman Baugher wrote: Thanks for the Sistan tip Aaron No prob, I'm just an Agfa pimp. ;) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-05-01 Thread Aaron Reynolds
William Robb wrote: Ctein didn't find improper washing to be the culprit. He decided it was casued by putting the print behind glass, or otherwise enclosing it. Well, my bronzed print isn't under or behind anything: it's stuck on the wall with two little pieces of tape. And no, the

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-05-01 Thread herbet brasileiro
I remember him saying that the problem seems to be greater with recent prints. When prints are set aside for a couple of months before framing, the problem is somehow reduced. Maybe some sort of acid environment is created between the glass and the print? Herbet. --- William Johnson [EMAIL

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-05-01 Thread Aaron Reynolds
BTW, how did Ctein test? Did he mention his wash method, or what fixer he was using? If he was running these prints through a processor, really, I still have to suspect the wash or the fix; I've yet to see a machine that gives you a proper wash. After all, processors are designed as a speedy

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-05-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds Subject: Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW William Robb wrote: Ctein didn't find improper washing to be the culprit. He decided it was casued by putting the print behind glass, or otherwise enclosing it. Well, my bronzed print

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-04-30 Thread Aaron Reynolds
William Robb wrote: Aaron, did you read that article by Ctein a couple of years back about RC paper and the bronzing problem? I am sure it was in a Darkroom Techniques magazine, but I can't find the issue it was in. I think he said the PolyMax RC paper was the only one not prone to the

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-04-30 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 30, 2001 5:45 AM Subject: Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW William Robb wrote: Aaron, did you read that article by Ctein a couple of years back about RC paper and the bronzing

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-04-30 Thread tom
William Robb wrote: Ctein didn't find improper washing to be the culprit. He decided it was casued by putting the print behind glass, or otherwise enclosing it. I have seen it on laminated RC prints made with Ilford MG III and IV paper, as well as framed prints. RC paper is definitely a

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-04-30 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: tom Subject: Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW William Robb wrote: Ctein didn't find improper washing to be the culprit. He decided it was casued by putting the print behind glass, or otherwise enclosing it. I have seen it on laminated RC

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-04-30 Thread tom
William Robb wrote: Was it behind glass as well? I don'tthink so. I never did see Cteins follow up article about it, so I don't know what conclusions he came to in the long run. He was very concerned about the bronzing problem though. I'm not concerned anymore, I'm sticking with fiber.

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-04-30 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
I have a lot of 25 year old RC prints, the majority on Kodak paper, that are as good as the day I made them. While most of them have been stored in boxes, some are framed behind glass. Paul William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: tom Subject: Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-04-30 Thread LEDMRVM
In a message dated 4/30/2001 7:37:07 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a lot of 25 year old RC prints, the majority on Kodak paper, that are as good as the day I made them. While most of them have been stored in boxes, some are framed behind glass. Paul

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-04-30 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 30, 2001 6:40 PM Subject: Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW In a message dated 4/30/2001 7:37:07 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a lot of 25 year old RC prints

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-04-30 Thread William Johnson
I have the first half of the article in front of me (not sure if I ever read the second part) but he does state that using either selenium toner or AGFA Sistan seems to provide considerable protection. He also states that AGFA paper is more susceptible to the problem than Kodak. I have AGFA RC

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-04-30 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: William Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 30, 2001 8:30 PM Subject: Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW I have the first half of the article in front of me (not sure if I ever read the second part) but he does

Re: RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-04-30 Thread tom
That makes me feel better, as I've given out a bunch of RC prints in the last year or 2...luckily they were all toned. BTW, how did Ctein test? tv William Johnson wrote: I have the first half of the article in front of me (not sure if I ever read the second part) but he does state that

RC Paper problems. Was: Re: C41 BW

2001-04-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds Subject: Re: C41 BW Was the discoloured print going purple or bronze/shiny? Aaron, did you read that article by Ctein a couple of years back about RC paper and the bronzing problem? I am sure it was in a Darkroom Techniques magazine, but I