Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele
I'll keep that in mind if I really do win the lottery :-) a On 12/6/2017 10:27 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: You have skipped the best one of all! We will have a spare bedroom in Maui in February , , , , Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at

Re: PESO Vanishing points

2017-12-06 Thread Rob Studdert
Thanks Dan On 6 December 2017 at 01:01, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Great control of perspective! > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:31 PM, Rob Studdert > wrote: > >> This is a pic that

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You have skipped the best one of all! We will have a spare bedroom in Maui in February , , , , Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:12 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > Hawaii is the one I've never been to... unlikely I ever will

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Ken Waller
At least he didn't chicken out. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" Subject: Re: December PUG is up! On 12/6/2017 3:34 PM, mike wilson wrote: He shouldn't have ducked. Konrad Lorenz was

OT Californian Fires

2017-12-06 Thread Brian Walters
Hoping any PDMLers in the LA area are safe. The fires look terrifying. Our dear friends Jo & Byron lost their house at Casitas Springs near Ojai. We had stayed with them during our 2013 trip to the west coast. Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Alan C
Just ravin' mad. Alan C -Original Message- From: Ken Waller Sent: 7 December, 2017 6:26 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: December PUG is up! At least he didn't chicken out. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message -

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele
Hawaii is the one I've never been to... unlikely I ever will and of course I've been to the one in the northeast many times, as I lived in Maine for 3 years and also took many road trips down east since then... I left off a couple in Florida that I may have been to as a child, possibly

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Mark Roberts
David J Brooks wrote: >Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then >remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg GFM is a state park, not national. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Ken Waller
Hi ann, I'm surprised you've only been to 7 National parks. Your comment made me stop and count the National Parks I've visited - 22. Not all of them were photo destinations - some were just to rubber neck. These National Parks are a great resource for the U. S. Kenneth Waller

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Ken Waller
My favorite, however, is Ken Waller's "Caribou." What a magnificent beast, and what a splendid pose. The background is just right: Out of focus enough to avoid distracting the eye, yet clear enough to strongly convey the environment. Thanks Dan, I appreciate the comments. I had tracked this

Re: OT: Coffee

2017-12-06 Thread Ken Waller
Makes me think of the strategy used on the lower cost digital printers where the cost of ink over time is vastly more expensive the the initial cost of the printer. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "mike wilson"

GESO after dinner fire

2017-12-06 Thread Larry Colen
It seems that someone decided to use an apartment's carport as a yule log a couple weeks early https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157688094921852 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele
I thought  it was privately owned.. hmmm but you certainly would know :-) ann On 12/6/2017 11:15 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg GFM is a state park, not national.

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > David J Brooks wrote: > >>Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then >>remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg > > GFM is a state park, not national. Good thing i forgot then Dave > >

Re: OT: Coffee

2017-12-06 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 6 Dec 2017, at 07:22, mike wilson > wrote: WRT cost of product, I once overheard sopmeone in a supermarket espousing the chapness of the capsules they had found. Examining the product during an overwhelming burst of curiosity, I found

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Bob W-PDML
Konrad Lorenz was circumcised by a raven. > On 6 Dec 2017, at 20:14, Ken Waller wrote: > > I had my Raven experience several years back while in a state park just north > of Moab Utah. My wife and I were mostly alone sitting on a bench near a very > steep and deep canyon

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I just googled the official list, and check off 25 I have visited. That does not, of course, include national monuments, preserves, historic sites, historic parks, memorials battlefields, cemeteries, recreation areas, seashores, lakeshores, rivers, parkways, trails, and "affiliated areas," all of

Re: OT: Coffee

2017-12-06 Thread mike wilson
> On 06 December 2017 at 19:55 Bob W-PDML wrote: > > > > On 6 Dec 2017, at 07:22, mike wilson > > wrote: > > WRT cost of product, I once overheard sopmeone in a supermarket espousing the > chapness of the capsules

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread mike wilson
> On 06 December 2017 at 16:15 Mark Roberts wrote: > > > David J Brooks wrote: > > >Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then > >remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg > > GFM is a state park, not national. Close enough for Brave

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I have had some interesting encounters with the ravens at the Tower of London. Cheeky birds, and quite clever and persistent. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > I had my Raven experience

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Ken Waller
I had my Raven experience several years back while in a state park just north of Moab Utah. My wife and I were mostly alone sitting on a bench near a very steep and deep canyon fall off just enjoying the scene and watching a raven play in the updrafts. He noticed us and started doing aerial

Re: OT: Coffee

2017-12-06 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 6 Dec 2017, at 20:40, mike wilson wrote: >> On 06 December 2017 at 19:55 Bob W-PDML wrote: >> >> >> >> On 6 Dec 2017, at 07:22, mike wilson >> > wrote: >> >> WRT cost of product, I once

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread mike wilson
He shouldn't have ducked. > On 06 December 2017 at 20:22 Bob W-PDML wrote: > > > Konrad Lorenz was circumcised by a raven. > > > On 6 Dec 2017, at 20:14, Ken Waller wrote: > > > > I had my Raven experience several years back while in a state park

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele
LOL -  - nonono been to lots more!    I meant that I had been to every one of the ones in Northe America  that were --represented  in the Dec PUG :- ) I've ben in 49 states, all the Canadian provences too... I think I can top your number of 22 NP's - It will be fun to count. A project for

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 10:16:59AM -0500, ann sanfedele wrote: > I would love it to have been true... and actually -felt- it was so at the > time. > and ravens, I believe, are somewhat smarter than pigeons. > > ann The average cobblestone is somewhat smarter than a pigeon. -- PDML

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele
On 12/6/2017 3:34 PM, mike wilson wrote: He shouldn't have ducked. Konrad Lorenz was circumcised by a raven.  Fowl play ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele
I have been to 40 in the USA and x'ed out the ones I had not been to, and then counted the rest. got ya both beat... :-)  I come from road trip stock. Didn't do Canada yet.  Company coming shortly with a framing project ann On 12/6/2017 4:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I just googled the

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
There are a total of 59 National parks -- only one in the Northeast. Mot are in Utah and Alaska. Which is the state you have not visited, Ann? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:08 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > I have been

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
"While it is unlikely Sam recognized me" Don't be so sure, Ann. I read a scientific paper on city pigeons, where it was demonstrated that the definitely recognized human faces, and can retain the memories for extended periods of time, Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

Now you don't even have to get it right

2017-12-06 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread David J Brooks
Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg Dave On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > ann sanfedele wrote: > >>I counted the parks I've been to in North America >>and there are 7 of

Re: OT: Coffee

2017-12-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
"the oxygen wasted by the people who promote these devices." More oxygen is wasted by seeking to blame others' habits rather than working together for clean energy and effective recyclking. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:21 AM, mike wilson

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Jan van Wijk
Thanks for the heads up, and for this story Ann! On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 20:27:22 -0500 ann sanfedele wrote: > >My personal favorite is for a very personal reason.. (in addition to it being >a lovely shot) >I think I know those ravens at the Painted Desert! >WHen did you take the photo, Jan? It was

Re: GESO after dinner fire

2017-12-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is quite a blaze! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:08 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > It seems that someone decided to use an apartment's carport as a yule log > a couple weeks early > >

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Jan van Wijk
Thanks Dan! On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 17:12:10 -0500 Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > >Jn van Wijk's "Painted Desert Locals" is perhaps the most dynamic; I love >the way he capture both the perched bird and the airborne in that >well-composed image. Regards, JvW

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele
I would love it to have been true... and actually -felt- it was so at the time. and ravens, I believe, are somewhat smarter than pigeons. ann On 12/6/2017 9:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: "While it is unlikely Sam recognized me" Don't be so sure, Ann. I read a scientific paper on city

Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele
GFM is private land... but photos you took there, given you pointed your camera in the right direction, would have given you the Great Smokey Mountains NP ann On 12/6/2017 10:06 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then remembered to late