Re: OT: Shopping NOT black Friday or cyber Monday
At 11:42 AM 11/27/2018, John wrote: >Roanoke, VA? I think that may be the closest one to Raleigh that's still open. Nah, they are still around down to the NC line. The Kroger-Harris Teeter deal was that they swapped stores - the HT's north of the VA-NC line went to Kroger, the Krogers south of the state line went to HT. Some stores in the trade adopted the new brand, some were closed or sold. Dale H. Cook, many years as 35mm SLR photographer, now Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm walking- around lens or SMC Pentax-A 50mm/f2 lens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shopping NOT black Friday or cyber Monday
I've got an insulated carry bag designed to keep hot foods hot. On 11/27/2018 17:08, Paul Sorenson wrote: Took a look at the recipe. Seems part of the uniqueness is serving them hot, out of the oven. Can you do that at your club? The meat's the thing. I'd do the meat according to the recipe, keep it hot in the slow cooker and serve it with some petite rolls from a decent bakery. -p On 11/27/2018 2:53 PM, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 12:44:42PM -0500, John wrote: *"2 loaves (1 pound each) frozen bread dough, thawed".* I wasn't able to find frozen bread dough at any of the local stores (Lidl, Aldi, Trader Joes, Harris Teeter, Lowes Foods) I frequent; not even at Costco. OK, internet to the rescue. Amazon has it ... in CASE LOTS of 48 loaves. No joy there. According to Walmart.com WALMART has it, but only at certain stores (except for they *don't* have it - see my original RANT). FWIW, I finally found it at Publix - nearest store is 15 miles across town. If you're capable of almost any level of cooking you should be able to make your own bread dough. All you need is flour, water, salt and yeast. About the only options are whether you want high-protein (i.e. high-gluten) bread flour or all-purpose flour (high-protein flour has to be kneaded longer), and whether you want to add a tablespoon or so of oil. If you've got a mixer with a dough hook (or a bread machine) it's a little easier, but you can do just fine working the dough yourself on a flat surface. A fairly simple recipe for 2lbs or so of dough would be: 20 oz flour 12 oz water 1 sachet (1/4 oz) of fast-acting dried yeast 1 to 2 tsp of salt (can be omitted - I find 2 tsp excessive) 1) Put the flour in a bowl, and add the yeast and the salt to opposite sides of the bowl - too high a salt concentration can kill yeast. 2) Make a well in the centre, and add olive oil (if wanted) and most of the water. Mix well, adding more water if necessary, to form a dough. 3) Tip the dough onto a smooth lightly-floured work surface, and knead for about 10 minutes if using bread flour, or half that for regular flour. (You can find all sorts of youtube videos showing you the technique for kneading bread dough, which will also show you the consistency of dough you should be aiming for). That's it! -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shopping NOT black Friday or cyber Monday
On 11/27/2018 15:53, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 12:44:42PM -0500, John wrote: *"2 loaves (1 pound each) frozen bread dough, thawed".* I wasn't able to find frozen bread dough at any of the local stores (Lidl, Aldi, Trader Joes, Harris Teeter, Lowes Foods) I frequent; not even at Costco. OK, internet to the rescue. Amazon has it ... in CASE LOTS of 48 loaves. No joy there. According to Walmart.com WALMART has it, but only at certain stores (except for they *don't* have it - see my original RANT). FWIW, I finally found it at Publix - nearest store is 15 miles across town. If you're capable of almost any level of cooking you should be able to make your own bread dough. All you need is flour, water, salt and yeast. About the only options are whether you want high-protein (i.e. high-gluten) bread flour or all-purpose flour (high-protein flour has to be kneaded longer), and whether you want to add a tablespoon or so of oil. If you've got a mixer with a dough hook (or a bread machine) it's a little easier, but you can do just fine working the dough yourself on a flat surface. A fairly simple recipe for 2lbs or so of dough would be: 20 oz flour 12 oz water 1 sachet (1/4 oz) of fast-acting dried yeast 1 to 2 tsp of salt (can be omitted - I find 2 tsp excessive) 1) Put the flour in a bowl, and add the yeast and the salt to opposite sides of the bowl - too high a salt concentration can kill yeast. 2) Make a well in the centre, and add olive oil (if wanted) and most of the water. Mix well, adding more water if necessary, to form a dough. 3) Tip the dough onto a smooth lightly-floured work surface, and knead for about 10 minutes if using bread flour, or half that for regular flour. (You can find all sorts of youtube videos showing you the technique for kneading bread dough, which will also show you the consistency of dough you should be aiming for). That's it! I could do that. It's just logistically problematic right now. With the kitchen only partially completed, I don't yet have enough free work surface to make the dough myself. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shopping NOT black Friday or cyber Monday
Took a look at the recipe. Seems part of the uniqueness is serving them hot, out of the oven. Can you do that at your club? The meat's the thing. I'd do the meat according to the recipe, keep it hot in the slow cooker and serve it with some petite rolls from a decent bakery. -p On 11/27/2018 2:53 PM, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 12:44:42PM -0500, John wrote: *"2 loaves (1 pound each) frozen bread dough, thawed".* I wasn't able to find frozen bread dough at any of the local stores (Lidl, Aldi, Trader Joes, Harris Teeter, Lowes Foods) I frequent; not even at Costco. OK, internet to the rescue. Amazon has it ... in CASE LOTS of 48 loaves. No joy there. According to Walmart.com WALMART has it, but only at certain stores (except for they *don't* have it - see my original RANT). FWIW, I finally found it at Publix - nearest store is 15 miles across town. If you're capable of almost any level of cooking you should be able to make your own bread dough. All you need is flour, water, salt and yeast. About the only options are whether you want high-protein (i.e. high-gluten) bread flour or all-purpose flour (high-protein flour has to be kneaded longer), and whether you want to add a tablespoon or so of oil. If you've got a mixer with a dough hook (or a bread machine) it's a little easier, but you can do just fine working the dough yourself on a flat surface. A fairly simple recipe for 2lbs or so of dough would be: 20 oz flour 12 oz water 1 sachet (1/4 oz) of fast-acting dried yeast 1 to 2 tsp of salt (can be omitted - I find 2 tsp excessive) 1) Put the flour in a bowl, and add the yeast and the salt to opposite sides of the bowl - too high a salt concentration can kill yeast. 2) Make a well in the centre, and add olive oil (if wanted) and most of the water. Mix well, adding more water if necessary, to form a dough. 3) Tip the dough onto a smooth lightly-floured work surface, and knead for about 10 minutes if using bread flour, or half that for regular flour. (You can find all sorts of youtube videos showing you the technique for kneading bread dough, which will also show you the consistency of dough you should be aiming for). That's it! -- Paul Sorenson Studio1941 Sooner or later "different" scares people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shopping NOT black Friday or cyber Monday
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 12:44:42PM -0500, John wrote: > > *"2 loaves (1 pound each) frozen bread dough, thawed".* > > I wasn't able to find frozen bread dough at any of the local stores (Lidl, > Aldi, Trader Joes, Harris Teeter, Lowes Foods) I frequent; not even at > Costco. OK, internet to the rescue. Amazon has it ... in CASE LOTS of 48 > loaves. No joy there. > > According to Walmart.com WALMART has it, but only at certain stores (except > for they *don't* have it - see my original RANT). > > FWIW, I finally found it at Publix - nearest store is 15 miles across town. If you're capable of almost any level of cooking you should be able to make your own bread dough. All you need is flour, water, salt and yeast. About the only options are whether you want high-protein (i.e. high-gluten) bread flour or all-purpose flour (high-protein flour has to be kneaded longer), and whether you want to add a tablespoon or so of oil. If you've got a mixer with a dough hook (or a bread machine) it's a little easier, but you can do just fine working the dough yourself on a flat surface. A fairly simple recipe for 2lbs or so of dough would be: 20 oz flour 12 oz water 1 sachet (1/4 oz) of fast-acting dried yeast 1 to 2 tsp of salt (can be omitted - I find 2 tsp excessive) 1) Put the flour in a bowl, and add the yeast and the salt to opposite sides of the bowl - too high a salt concentration can kill yeast. 2) Make a well in the centre, and add olive oil (if wanted) and most of the water. Mix well, adding more water if necessary, to form a dough. 3) Tip the dough onto a smooth lightly-floured work surface, and knead for about 10 minutes if using bread flour, or half that for regular flour. (You can find all sorts of youtube videos showing you the technique for kneading bread dough, which will also show you the consistency of dough you should be aiming for). That's it! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shopping NOT black Friday or cyber Monday
Well, we won't be seeing their liquor store here in Raleigh. Spirituous liquors can only be sold by state controlled ABC stores. They'll have wine & beer I guess, but I rarely buy those. I don't buy liquor all that often, I think the newest bottle I have in the house is 5 years old. I guess I should explain what all the angst was about. I have two "pot-luck" suppers to attend in December for two of the camera clubs I belong to. I usually take a boring old Green Bean Casserole - big can of green beans, can of condensed cream of mushroom soup & French's Crispy Fried Onions. Dump the ingredients into a crock pot on low heat & by the time I go to my meeting it's ready. This year I wanted to do something different to celebrate finally having a kitchen I can cook in (and wash dishes in). My unanticipated, UN-budgeted kitchen remodeling project is in it's fourth year. While I was standing in the check out at Lowe's Home Improvement (to pay for the sink base that is the foundation of my new kitchen) I spotted a magazine of recipes & on the cover was "Maple Pulled Pork Buns". https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/maple-pulled-pork-buns/ That's the ticket! Made my mouth start watering just looking at the cover. Added the magazine to my checkout. The moment of truth is now upon me and I'll have to make the recipe next week. Time to start gathering ingredients, make sure I have every thing I need ... One of the ingredients I need is: *"2 loaves (1 pound each) frozen bread dough, thawed".* I wasn't able to find frozen bread dough at any of the local stores (Lidl, Aldi, Trader Joes, Harris Teeter, Lowes Foods) I frequent; not even at Costco. OK, internet to the rescue. Amazon has it ... in CASE LOTS of 48 loaves. No joy there. According to Walmart.com WALMART has it, but only at certain stores (except for they *don't* have it - see my original RANT). FWIW, I finally found it at Publix - nearest store is 15 miles across town. I also found out that Publix will be opening a store within a mile of my house on the site where one of the two local camera stores I frequent used to be located. All of the stores on that block were shut down so a developer can build a multi-story condo building. It will have retail space on the ground floor, including a Publix supermarket. PS: The camera store moved and is still open. On 11/26/2018 19:48, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wegman's is a superior supermarket chain. Their meats are top of the line, their instore bakery makes the best bread outside of France, and their liquor store is among the best around. The in-store brands of soda and other daily products are genuine bargains, and of the highest quality. I think you will enjoy shopping there. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 5:45 PM John wrote: Why would a company list an item on their website marked "In store purchase only; no pickup" when the item is not available in the stores? According to the store manager, the item is ONLY on the website. They have NEVER carried it in any of the stores she worked at. Wasted 15 miles & 3 hours time. In other NEWZ - we're getting two new grocery chains here in Raleigh ... or I should say we're getting another new grocery chain here, Publix has already opened stores in the area, although none of them is really convenient for me, but there's a sign on a new shopping center expansion about two miles from my house that says it's going to include a Wegmans. Kroger pulled out of North Carolina a few months back & one of the stores they closed was the one nearest my house that I had been shopping the last 30 years or so. The new Wegmans will be about a block closer to my house than Kroger was. I'm still hoping Lowe's Foods, Harris Teeter or Publix will take over the old Kroger space. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shopping NOT black Friday or cyber Monday
On 11/26/2018 18:33, Dale H. Cook wrote: At 05:44 PM 11/26/2018, John wrote: Kroger pulled out of North Carolina a few months back & one of the stores they closed was the one nearest my house that I had been shopping the last 30 years or so. Kroger is still going strong in Roanoke - since Harris Teeter left and the last Winn Dixie closed (both some years ago) we pretty much have Kroger, Food Lion, Walmart (they have a couple of Neighborhood Markets here in addition to the Supercenters), and one Fresh Market. Dale H. Cook, many years as 35mm SLR photographer, now Pentax K-70 w/Pentax-DA 18-270mm walking- around lens or SMC Pentax-A 50mm/f2 lens Roanoke, VA? I think that may be the closest one to Raleigh that's still open. Google Maps still shows the stores in the Raleigh-Durham area, but most of them are marked CLOSED, and one of those that isn't is the one I used to shop, so I know it's closed as well. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shopping NOT black Friday or cyber Monday
Kroger bought Roundy's foods here in WI about a year ago and have been investing mucho $$ in store remodeling. Roundy's operates about 240 stores in Wisconsin and the Chicago area under four different banner names. -p On 11/26/2018 7:14 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Dale H. Cook wrote on 11/26/18 3:33 PM: At 05:44 PM 11/26/2018, John wrote: Kroger pulled out of North Carolina a few months back & one of the stores they closed was the one nearest my house that I had been shopping the last 30 years or so. Kroger is still going strong in Roanoke - since Harris Teeter left and the last Winn Dixie closed (both some years ago) we pretty much have Kroger, Food Lion, Walmart (they have a couple of Neighborhood Markets here in addition to the Supercenters), and one Fresh Market. When I traveled to the Northwet, I used to love shopping at Freddie's. I'd notice over the past couple of years that they just weren't as good as I remembered and recently discovered that Kroger's had bought Fred Meyer's. :-( -- Paul Sorenson Studio1941 Sooner or later "different" scares people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shopping NOT black Friday or cyber Monday
Dale H. Cook wrote on 11/26/18 3:33 PM: At 05:44 PM 11/26/2018, John wrote: Kroger pulled out of North Carolina a few months back & one of the stores they closed was the one nearest my house that I had been shopping the last 30 years or so. Kroger is still going strong in Roanoke - since Harris Teeter left and the last Winn Dixie closed (both some years ago) we pretty much have Kroger, Food Lion, Walmart (they have a couple of Neighborhood Markets here in addition to the Supercenters), and one Fresh Market. When I traveled to the Northwet, I used to love shopping at Freddie's. I'd notice over the past couple of years that they just weren't as good as I remembered and recently discovered that Kroger's had bought Fred Meyer's. :-( -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612824732477/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shopping NOT black Friday or cyber Monday
Wegman's is a superior supermarket chain. Their meats are top of the line, their instore bakery makes the best bread outside of France, and their liquor store is among the best around. The in-store brands of soda and other daily products are genuine bargains, and of the highest quality. I think you will enjoy shopping there. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 5:45 PM John wrote: > Why would a company list an item on their website marked "In store > purchase > only; no pickup" when the item is not available in the stores? > > According to the store manager, the item is ONLY on the website. They have > NEVER > carried it in any of the stores she worked at. > > Wasted 15 miles & 3 hours time. > > In other NEWZ - we're getting two new grocery chains here in Raleigh ... > or I > should say we're getting another new grocery chain here, Publix has > already > opened stores in the area, although none of them is really convenient for > me, > but there's a sign on a new shopping center expansion about two miles from > my > house that says it's going to include a Wegmans. > > Kroger pulled out of North Carolina a few months back & one of the stores > they > closed was the one nearest my house that I had been shopping the last 30 > years > or so. The new Wegmans will be about a block closer to my house than > Kroger was. > > I'm still hoping Lowe's Foods, Harris Teeter or Publix will take over the > old > Kroger space. > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shopping NOT black Friday or cyber Monday
At 05:44 PM 11/26/2018, John wrote: >Kroger pulled out of North Carolina a few months back & one of the stores they >closed was the one nearest my house that I had been shopping the last 30 years >or so. Kroger is still going strong in Roanoke - since Harris Teeter left and the last Winn Dixie closed (both some years ago) we pretty much have Kroger, Food Lion, Walmart (they have a couple of Neighborhood Markets here in addition to the Supercenters), and one Fresh Market. Dale H. Cook, many years as 35mm SLR photographer, now Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm walking- around lens or SMC Pentax-A 50mm/f2 lens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
