Re: OT: Why It's Illegal to Take Photos of the Eiffel Tower at Night

2022-07-03 Thread Bill
Whether you said it in jest or not, the attitude behind the words is very common among your people when they travel. Now you are saying ignorance of the law is an acceptable reason to break the law and that because you follow the rules sometimes its all good to break them at other times. I think

Re: OT: Why It's Illegal to Take Photos of the Eiffel Tower at Night

2022-07-03 Thread John Sessoms
Well, you could always refer them to the response in "Arkell v Pressdram". On 7/2/2022 5:27 PM, Bill wrote: On Sat., Jul. 2, 2022, 2:01 p.m. Daniel J. Matyola, wrote: I like to think of myself as a skillful lawyer. I 'm at least good enough to fight them off for years. And this attitude

Re: OT: Why It's Illegal to Take Photos of the Eiffel Tower at Night

2022-07-03 Thread John Sessoms
Way things are going around here I don't think it's going to be a problem. Copyright will have expired before I can afford a trip to Paris. On 6/30/2022 2:57 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: https://www.cntraveler.com/story/why-its-illegal-to-take-photos-of-the-eiffel-tower-at-night Dan Matyola

Re: OT: Why It's Illegal to Take Photos of the Eiffel Tower at Night

2022-07-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Oh, come on, Bill. Give me a break. I took and published those images because there was no indication that it was improper to do so. There are no signs at either the Eiffel Tower or the Atomium stating that photographs are forbidden. They are more than happy to accept Euros from us crass

Re: OT: Why It's Illegal to Take Photos of the Eiffel Tower at Night

2022-07-02 Thread Bill
On Sat., Jul. 2, 2022, 2:01 p.m. Daniel J. Matyola, wrote: > I like to think of myself as a skillful lawyer. > I > 'm at least good enough to fight them off for years. > And this attitude of entitlement and disrespect is why so many places don't like American tourists. Just sayin. bill --

Re: OT: Why It's Illegal to Take Photos of the Eiffel Tower at Night

2022-07-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I like to think of myself as a skillful lawyer. I 'm at least good enough to fight them off for years. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 3:32 AM Larry Colen wrote: > > > > On Jul 1, 2022, at 10:28 PM, Daniel

Re: OT: Why It's Illegal to Take Photos of the Eiffel Tower at Night

2022-07-02 Thread Larry Colen
> On Jul 1, 2022, at 10:28 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > I have taken and published images of the Atomium, from our last trip to > Belgium, and the Eiffel Tower, both in daylight and at night. I also took > and published a short video of the light show. Let them chase me down. I hope

Re: OT: Why It's Illegal to Take Photos of the Eiffel Tower at Night

2022-07-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I have taken and published images of the Atomium, from our last trip to Belgium, and the Eiffel Tower, both in daylight and at night. I also took and published a short video of the light show. Let them chase me down. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery

RE: OT: Why It's Illegal to Take Photos of the Eiffel Tower at Night

2022-06-30 Thread jcoyle
used the brand long before the existence of the appellant's brand. I refer to the response of the commander of US forces at Bastogne - "Nuts". John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: Ralf R Radermacher Sent: Friday, 1 July 2022 7:39 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT

Re: OT: Why It's Illegal to Take Photos of the Eiffel Tower at Night

2022-06-30 Thread Alan C
Agree. Ridiculous. I took a shot of the Atomium years ago when travelling past on a bus. Also  a night shot of the Eiffel tower from a hotel window on the same trip. Would it be legal to publish them here? Alan C On 30-Jun-22 11:38 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 30.06.22 um 20:57 schrieb

Re: OT: Why It's Illegal to Take Photos of the Eiffel Tower at Night

2022-06-30 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 30.06.22 um 20:57 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola: > https://www.cntraveler.com/story/why-its-illegal-to-take-photos-of-the-eiffel-tower-at-night The company running the Eiffel Tower (SETE) have the rights not to the tower itself but the nightly illumination. fotocommunity.de have a special

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-10-03 Thread Alan C
I remember some tall guys who raced Mini-Coopers in days of yore - they drove with their heads cocked over to one side! Alan C On 03-Oct-20 07:12 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Just a few days ago I watched a bit of a hoonigan video where someone upwards of 6'4" got into and drove a 1966 MG midget.

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-10-03 Thread Larry Colen
> On Oct 3, 2020, at 9:59 AM, John wrote: > > On 10/2/2020 20:25:08, l...@red4est.com wrote: >> On October 2, 2020 5:09:55 PM PDT, John Francis wrote: >>> On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 02:58:03AM -0400, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Boris Liberman Wed, 30 Sep 2020 22:32:55 -0700

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-10-03 Thread John
On 10/2/2020 20:25:08, l...@red4est.com wrote: On October 2, 2020 5:09:55 PM PDT, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 02:58:03AM -0400, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Boris Liberman Wed, 30 Sep 2020 22:32:55 -0700 wrote: My late father was 172 cm tall and considered himself an average

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-10-02 Thread lrc
On October 2, 2020 5:09:55 PM PDT, John Francis wrote: >On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 02:58:03AM -0400, Igor PDML-StR wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Boris Liberman Wed, 30 Sep 2020 22:32:55 -0700 wrote: >> >> My late father was 172 cm tall and considered himself an average >height. I >> am 180 cm tall

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-10-02 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 02:58:03AM -0400, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > Ghm... Google tells me that Abraham Lincoln was 6'4" (193 cm). > So, now, I know why he did not drive a car: he didn't fit in either of those > cars. :-) > > On a serious note, one guy we knew long time ago was close to 2-m tall

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-10-02 Thread Boris Liberman
So when Lincoln brand was established someone really did their homework? Remarkable! :-) On Fri, Oct 2, 2020, 09:58 Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > Ghm... Google tells me that Abraham Lincoln was 6'4" (193 cm). > So, now, I know why he did not drive a car: he didn't fit in either of > those cars.

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-10-02 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Ghm... Google tells me that Abraham Lincoln was 6'4" (193 cm). So, now, I know why he did not drive a car: he didn't fit in either of those cars. :-) On a serious note, one guy we knew long time ago was close to 2-m tall (somewhere in the vicinity of 6'6"). Surprisingly, the car he bought

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-10-01 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 01.10.20 um 13:07 schrieb Boris Liberman: My problem is rather width due to sharing a covered parking space with a neighbor. ...which is exactly why I have this particular space as there is no other vehicle on my left side. I'd never get out of my car in a normal space. Ralf -- Ralf R.

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-10-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Ralf, good to see you. My problem is rather width due to sharing a covered parking space with a neighbor. So moving from Hyundai I30 to Ford Focus Active X, I gained few centimeters in width. It makes my parking ever so more difficult in terms of precision. I wouldn't want my neighbor to have

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-10-01 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 01.10.20 um 07:31 schrieb Boris Liberman: One can also look at VW Polo. It is as big now as some earlier generations of VW Golf. My rented space in an underground car park is a sort of alcove with limited length. My good old Opel/Vauxhall Vectra B estate fit nicely. Would have loved to get

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-09-30 Thread Boris Liberman
My late father was 172 cm tall and considered himself an average height. I am 180 cm tall and I think just like my dad. So, yes - he could fit comfortably in Ford Escort circa 1980es, while I'd prefer bigger Ford Focus. One can also look at VW Polo. It is as big now as some earlier generations

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-09-30 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 02:44:45PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > On Sep 29, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > > > A load of crap from a know-nothing. Quite. I gave up watching almost immediately. One reason cars keep getting bigger is because the person most likely to buy a

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-09-29 Thread Nolan Hinshaw
On Sep 29, 2020, at 14:49, Larry Colen wrote: > >> On Sep 29, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Sep 29, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >>> >>> A load of crap from a know-nothing. The old Ranger was a compact truck. The >>> new one is a midsize. And cars have

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-09-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
Suburbans are probably about the same size, somewhat heavier but much more fuel efficient. But they’re outside the norm. Chevy Equinox, a compact vehicle with quite a bit of interior space, is far and away GM’s best selling SUV. Paul > On Sep 29, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >  >

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-09-29 Thread Larry Colen
> On Sep 29, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > >> On Sep 29, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> A load of crap from a know-nothing. The old Ranger was a compact truck. The >> new one is a midsize. And cars have disappeared. But SUVs have become more >> compact. > >

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-09-29 Thread Larry Colen
> On Sep 29, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > A load of crap from a know-nothing. The old Ranger was a compact truck. The > new one is a midsize. And cars have disappeared. But SUVs have become more > compact. Interesting, I wonder what the difference in size and weight is

Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

2020-09-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
A load of crap from a know-nothing. The old Ranger was a compact truck. The new one is a midsize. And cars have disappeared. But SUVs have become more compact. Paul > On Sep 29, 2020, at 5:06 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > >

Re: OT: Why ...

2018-05-16 Thread Jack Davis
Oo, shame, Alan! HA! J Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2018, at 7:30 AM, Alan C wrote: > > That's a cutting edge question. > > Alan C > > -Original Message- From: John > Sent: 16 May, 2018 2:42 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: OT: Why ... > > ...

Re: OT: Why ...

2018-05-16 Thread John
Snag in sole of a sock with about 6 inches of thread dangling off of it. Needed to cut it off before the whole damn sock unraveled on me. On 5/16/2018 13:55, Bob W-PDML wrote: Is it something to do with Freud? On 16 May 2018, at 13:43, John wrote: ... are scissors

Re: OT: Why ...

2018-05-16 Thread Bob W-PDML
Is it something to do with Freud? > On 16 May 2018, at 13:43, John wrote: > > ... are scissors always in the way when you don't need them, but there's > never a pair around when you want them? > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Why ...

2018-05-16 Thread Henk Terhell
Buy a Swiss knife with scissors and keep it in your pocket as a life saver. Op 2018-05-16 om 14:42 schreef John: ... are scissors always in the way when you don't need them, but there's never a pair around when you want them? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Why ...

2018-05-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Because someone is always running with the scissors. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Alan C wrote: > That's a cutting edge question. > > Alan C > > -Original Message- From: John > Sent: 16 May, 2018 2:42

Re: OT: Why ...

2018-05-16 Thread Alan C
That's a cutting edge question. Alan C -Original Message- From: John Sent: 16 May, 2018 2:42 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: Why ... ... are scissors always in the way when you don't need them, but there's never a pair around when you want them? -- Science - Questions

Re: OT: why we bought Flickr according to SmugMug CEO

2018-05-07 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 2:09 PM, John wrote: > On 5/7/2018 13:17, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> Sounds promising, actually. Plan is to keep them separate but bridge >> them in some useful way. SmugMug has a photographer-centric viewpoint >> versus social media's advertising

Re: OT: why we bought Flickr according to SmugMug CEO

2018-05-07 Thread John
On 5/7/2018 13:17, Bruce Walker wrote: Sounds promising, actually. Plan is to keep them separate but bridge them in some useful way. SmugMug has a photographer-centric viewpoint versus social media's advertising slant.

Re: OT - Why the Collectors Who Made Vivian Maier Famous Can’t Cash in on Her Work

2017-07-12 Thread P. J. Alling
The moral of this story is if you find a treasure trove of images destroy it immediately to avoid legal issues. The only people who will profit from this mess are the lawyers. On 7/12/2017 11:30 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Maier's legacy: endless legal machinations. Shame about the photos.

Re: OT - Why the Collectors Who Made Vivian Maier Famous Can’t Cash in on Her Work

2017-07-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Fascinating! Thanks for posting the link. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Maier's legacy: endless legal machinations. Shame about the photos. > >

Re: OT - Why the Collectors Who Made Vivian Maier Famous Can’t Cash in on Her Work

2017-07-12 Thread Paul in MKE
Interesting... -p On 7/12/2017 10:30 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Maier's legacy: endless legal machinations. Shame about the photos. https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-collectors-made-vivian-maier-famous-cash-work -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML

Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-27 Thread John
On 7/26/2013 9:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Rob Studdert wrote: I nearly had to resort to a barf-bag on reading that article, he sounds like a reformed smoker or a born again... I didn't even look at it because I expected as much. I genuinely like a lot of street photography (Juan Buhler and

Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:43:22AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain cells.) So here is a well thought-out blog post that anyone who enjoys STREET PHOTOGRAPHY

Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Darren Addy
Film vs Digital (in a nutshell) http://www.shoeboxblog.com/?p=32912 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:43:22AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I am never bored. I find

Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:50:30PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: Film vs Digital (in a nutshell) http://www.shoeboxblog.com/?p=32912 I just saw a reference that 10% of all the photographs ever taken, were taken in the past 12 months.

Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread John Sessoms
Boredom is just Nature's way of telling you it's a convenient time to take a nap. On 7/26/2013 12:43 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain cells.) So here is a well

Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread John Sessoms
... a Christmas tree on each end of the roll. On 7/26/2013 1:50 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Film vs Digital (in a nutshell) http://www.shoeboxblog.com/?p=32912 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:43:22AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: Nobody

Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 July 2013 03:10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: If hipness could kill, he'd be in the ICU. Seriously though, there is a lot that you can learn from shooting film, though most of it could be applied to shooting with a digital camera. There is nothing preventing you from taking care

Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Rob Studdert wrote: I nearly had to resort to a barf-bag on reading that article, he sounds like a reformed smoker or a born again... I didn't even look at it because I expected as much. I genuinely like a lot of street photography (Juan Buhler and Frank Theriault being amongst my favorite

Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Darren Addy
I tend to feel the same way about Photoshop gurus. (Not really, just feeling like a smartburro.) On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Rob Studdert wrote: I nearly had to resort to a barf-bag on reading that article, he sounds like a reformed smoker or

Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Mark C
Thanks for posting that. Personally, I agree with many of his points and appreciate him sharing his evolution into the analog world. Personally. I like film because I like the process and results. I like digital for the same reasons. And hand shadows And most anything esle that I've

Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread steve harley
on 2013-07-26 10:43 Darren Addy wrote Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain cells.) boredom is an essential human state and crucial to spiritual development -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Bill
On 26/07/2013 7:15 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 27 July 2013 03:10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: If hipness could kill, he'd be in the ICU. Seriously though, there is a lot that you can learn from shooting film, though most of it could be applied to shooting with a digital camera. There

Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Bill
On 26/07/2013 7:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Rob Studdert wrote: ... but I've noticed that the people who are good at it tend not to write about it and the people who write about it tend to give my dry heaves. um. MARK!! bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-11 Thread Darren Addy
The subtle (and not so subtle) differences between British and American english are often amusing. For instance, we were initially quite perplexed at the shocked reaction we got from some friends visiting from Leeds when they first heard the term fanny pack. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Fanny pack is a terrible term, even in American English, and the device itself is an abomination. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: The subtle (and not so subtle) differences between British

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-11 Thread John Sessoms
Probably because it's a verb in the UK. From: Daniel J. Matyola Fanny pack is a terrible term, even in American English, and the device itself is an abomination. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-11 Thread Bob W
I agree wholeheartedly! B On 11 Jun 2013, at 16:58, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Fanny pack is a terrible term, even in American English, and the device itself is an abomination. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-10 Thread mike wilson
smug Ubuntu asks for my account password, purely to establish that I have the authority to install the app. on that machine. So far, I have installed an OS, browser, mail client, and about fifteen other apps without anyone knowing my financial status, never mind asking for potential access.

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-09 Thread Chris Mitchell
You stood at the crossroads. You bought an Apple device. They now have your soul. CM On 7 June 2013 23:22, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Why is it that when I want to download a FREE app, they insist on my Apple id, and on verifying my credit card details? Why don't they have a 'Fuck

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-09 Thread Bruce Walker
Indeed, they have you by the Johnson. On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: You stood at the crossroads. You bought an Apple device. They now have your soul. CM On 7 June 2013 23:22, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Why is it that when I want to

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-09 Thread Bob W
Very good! On 9 Jun 2013, at 10:52, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed, they have you by the Johnson. On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: You stood at the crossroads. You bought an Apple device. They now have your soul. CM

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Bob W
On 8 Jun 2013, at 02:42, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:59 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2013-06-07 16:22 Bob W wrote Why is it that when I want to download a FREE app, they insist on my Apple id, and on verifying my credit card details? a pain i

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/6/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Why is it that when I want to download a FREE app, they insist on my Apple id, and on verifying my credit card details? If I download an app from my phone it just asks for my password. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, ||

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Oh, my god, you poor man! How did you ever survive such an ordeal? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Why is it that when I want to download a FREE app, they insist on my Apple id, and on verifying

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Christine Aguila
On Jun 8, 2013, at 3:50 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 7/6/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Why is it that when I want to download a FREE app, they insist on my Apple id, and on verifying my credit card details? If I download an app from my phone it just asks for

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jun 8, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: On Jun 8, 2013, at 3:50 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 7/6/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Why is it that when I want to download a FREE app, they insist on my Apple id, and on verifying

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Eactivist
I object to the use of twat as a pejorative. Or, at least, in mixed company. Thank you, we return you to your normal station. Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 6/7/2013 3:23:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@web-options.com writes: Why is it that when I want to download a FREE app,

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread P.J. Alling
If it's any consolation, it's not just Apple. I wanted to try out a Free Application for the PC on a web site recently and they wanted my email address /and/ credit card information to confirm my existence I suppose. I'm sorry you need what? Why? This has been happening all to frequently

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats? on 2013-06-07 16:22 Bob W wrote Why is it that when I want to download a FREE app, they insist on my Apple id, and on verifying my credit card details? a pain i agree, but it's part of the deal it needs your account because it gives

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Bill
On 08/06/2013 8:53 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: On Jun 8, 2013, at 3:50 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 7/6/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Why is it that when I want to download a FREE app, they insist on my Apple id, and on verifying my credit card details? If I

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 11:06:41AM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I object to the use of twat as a pejorative. Or, at least, in mixed company. Yeah, don't be a dick. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread David Parsons
You either had a gift card when you setup your account, or you added a credit card. It won't ask for credit card info after that, especially for free apps. On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 7/6/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Why is it that

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Bob W
Whisky and pemmican. On 8 Jun 2013, at 12:18, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, my god, you poor man! How did you ever survive such an ordeal? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Bob W
On 8 Jun 2013, at 17:50, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 11:06:41AM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I object to the use of twat as a pejorative. Or, at least, in mixed company. Yeah, don't be a dick. Twat is a very mild word in British English, one that I

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: On 8 Jun 2013, at 17:50, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 11:06:41AM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I object to the use of twat as a pejorative. Or, at least, in mixed company. Yeah, don't be a dick. Twat is a very mild word in British English,

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 06:39:32PM +0100, Bob W wrote: On 8 Jun 2013, at 17:50, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 11:06:41AM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I object to the use of twat as a pejorative. Or, at least, in mixed company. Yeah, don't be a dick.

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I thought some one just mistyped TWITS ann On 6/8/2013 13:39, Bob W wrote: On 8 Jun 2013, at 17:50, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 11:06:41AM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I object to the use of twat as a pejorative. Or, at least, in mixed company. Yeah,

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On 6/8/2013 11:01 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jun 8, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: On Jun 8, 2013, at 3:50 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 7/6/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Why is it that when I want to download a FREE app, they

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Bob W
On 8 Jun 2013, at 19:49, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 06:39:32PM +0100, Bob W wrote: On 8 Jun 2013, at 17:50, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 11:06:41AM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I object to the use of twat as a pejorative.

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Stan Halpin
On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Bill wrote: On 08/06/2013 8:53 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: On Jun 8, 2013, at 3:50 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 7/6/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Why is it that when I want to download a FREE app, they insist on my Apple id, and

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread John Sessoms
Was the application developer from Nigeria? From: P.J. Alling If it's any consolation, it's not just Apple. I wanted to try out a Free Application for the PC on a web site recently and they wanted my email address /and/ credit card information to confirm my existence I suppose. I'm sorry you

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread P.J. Alling
That was my thought. On 6/8/2013 5:29 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Was the application developer from Nigeria? From: P.J. Alling If it's any consolation, it's not just Apple. I wanted to try out a Free Application for the PC on a web site recently and they wanted my email address /and/ credit card

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 09:29:53PM +0100, Bob W wrote: On 8 Jun 2013, at 19:49, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: My wife, though, (a Nottingham girl) regards it much as you do. D H Lawrence was a Nottinghamshire lad, me duck. Perhaps it's a north/south thing. I grew up mostly abroad,

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twerps?

2013-06-08 Thread steve harley
on 2013-06-08 10:03 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote My Android doesn't ask for credit card information when I download free apps. So despite your reasons, the real answer is because it's part of the deal but since there was no real negotiation of terms (here are the terms; either agree or don't

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twerps?

2013-06-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 June 2013 13:18, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: if you don't have to sign in each time you use Google Play i can only imagine it is because it stores your previous sign-in info (this could be bad news for those whose kids like to buy hundreds of apps) It's not even necessary to

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-08 Thread Bill
On 08/06/2013 3:08 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Bill wrote: On 08/06/2013 8:53 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: On Jun 8, 2013, at 3:50 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 7/6/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Why is it that when I want to download a

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-07 Thread steve harley
on 2013-06-07 16:22 Bob W wrote Why is it that when I want to download a FREE app, they insist on my Apple id, and on verifying my credit card details? a pain i agree, but it's part of the deal it needs your account because it gives Apple proof that you've agreed to the license (even if

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Perhaps they're getting customer relations tips from Adobe? -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

Re: OT: Why are Apple such a bunch of twats?

2013-06-07 Thread Stan Halpin
On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:59 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2013-06-07 16:22 Bob W wrote Why is it that when I want to download a FREE app, they insist on my Apple id, and on verifying my credit card details? a pain i agree, but it's part of the deal it needs your account because it gives Apple

Re: OT why the moon landings could never have been faked

2013-01-24 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 24, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote: This is actually almost on topic because it's about why the photographic technology did not exist to fake the moon landings in 1969: http://gizmodo.com/5977205/why-the-moon-landings-could-have-never-ever-been-faked-the-definitive-proof

Re: OT: Why won't the internet just answer the stupid question?

2012-10-13 Thread David Parsons
If you can't find a banker to ask, try asking at www.quora.com On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:29 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Trying to figure something out and the answer is NOT on the internet. And it's not in my math textbook in the section that tells you how to figure

Re: OT: Why won't the internet just answer the stupid, question?

2012-10-13 Thread John Sessoms
Credit Union - six month CD. I *will* ask the Credit Union when it opens on Monday. If I purchase a six month CD on any DATE X, how do I calculate the actual DATE Y when the CD will mature? Unfortunately, the Credit Union was already closed on Friday before the question occurred to me.

Re: OT: Why won't the internet just answer the stupid, question?

2012-10-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
I don't know the answer but I suggest whiskey. On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Credit Union - six month CD. I *will* ask the Credit Union when it opens on Monday. If I purchase a six month CD on any DATE X, how do I calculate the actual DATE Y when

Re: OT: Why won't the internet just answer the stupid, question?

2012-10-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
All six month CDs I've purchased matured on the same date six months later. For example, a CD purchased on March 15 matures on September 15. In any case a difference of a day or two is a matter of pennies, so it's not worth getting worked up about IMO. Steve's suggestion of whiskey is a good

RE: OT: Why won't the internet just answer the stupid, question?

2012-10-13 Thread J.C. O'Connell
List Subject: Re: OT: Why won't the internet just answer the stupid, question? All six month CDs I've purchased matured on the same date six months later. For example, a CD purchased on March 15 matures on September 15. In any case a difference of a day or two is a matter of pennies, so it's

RE: OT: Why won't the internet just answer the stupid, question?

2012-10-13 Thread J.C. O'Connell
...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:34 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: OT: Why won't the internet just answer the stupid, question? with today's interest rates, a few days is literally pennies... - J.C.O'Connell hifis

Re: OT: Why won't the internet just answer the stupid question?

2012-10-12 Thread Joseph McAllister
Calculate it any way you want. If the answer you get is the MOST profitable for the bank, and the MOST deleterious to the patron, then that is the way they do it. Sorta the same way tech support everywhere is only available when you don't need them. Joseph Mac On Oct 12, 2012, at 7:29

Re: OT: Why won't the internet just answer the stupid question?

2012-10-12 Thread John Mullan
Because there are many different ways it is best to ask the bank in question what method they use. Is it savings or loan, each uses a different approach. jm -Original Message- From: John Sessoms Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 10:29 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Why won't the

Re: OT: Why I hate Computers

2012-08-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
Given the following: On Aug 17, 2012, at 14:37 , John Sessoms wrote: Given: L W M as seen by... 1 2 3 MFb 4 5 6 WFb 7 8 9 LFb I see OS choices as 4,2,9 GUI development reached its pinnacle with OS/2 v.3.0 Every change since then has been a step further down a

Re: OT - Why Computers hate John

2012-08-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
Ow Ow Ow!! That hurts my head just reading all that stuff! On Aug 17, 2012, at 15:41 , John Sessoms wrote: From: Igor Roshchin They usually enjoy working late, with the people who feel and enjoy the magic of the night. But they are forced to work from 5am (Ouch!) That's all the

Re: OT - Why Computers hate John

2012-08-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
Aaahh. Much better. I can hear the sea from there. On Aug 17, 2012, at 19:12 , steve harley wrote: on 2012-08-17 16:41 John Sessoms wrote I don't even want to think about what it would have cost me to get a Mac with those specifications. I don't know if I could get a Mac with those

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