Re: Pentax KP
Probably the new Pentax APS-C will be some sort of limited edition flagship with improved viewfinder and grip, but lacking features as flippy screen and GPS. Doesn't look to be a workhorse for nature photography as the K-1. Henk Op 2020-09-29 om 14:58 schreef Bill: On Mon., Sep. 28, 2020, 11:36 p.m. Christine Aguila, wrote: Thanks, everyone! I’m so out of touch with Pentax gear; it’s embarrassing. I was also stunned to hear about Canon and Nikon’s shift to mirrorless cameras. I hope to give all my gear a workout for the next couple of weeks. I have a few photo-homework-assignments in mind with the hope of getting my photog-eye back into shape. Canon and Nikon are playing a desperate game trying to stay relevant. I fully expect Canon to go full mirrorless within a few years and drop the EF mount in much the same fashion that they dropped the FD mount. Nikon may or may not go full mirrorless, though I do expect they will continue to support the F mount. Ricoh has signaled that they are going to stick with SLR cameras, their soon to be seen APS-C flagship is apparently going to have a 1.05% viewfinder, which will be a great improvement over their present ones that are somewhere around 90%, IIRC. Pentax has the benefit of being very small, not a bad thing these days. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP
On Mon., Sep. 28, 2020, 11:36 p.m. Christine Aguila, wrote: > Thanks, everyone! I’m so out of touch with Pentax gear; it’s > embarrassing. I was also stunned to hear about Canon and Nikon’s shift to > mirrorless cameras. I hope to give all my gear a workout for the next > couple of weeks. I have a few photo-homework-assignments in mind with the > hope of getting my photog-eye back into shape. > Canon and Nikon are playing a desperate game trying to stay relevant. I fully expect Canon to go full mirrorless within a few years and drop the EF mount in much the same fashion that they dropped the FD mount. Nikon may or may not go full mirrorless, though I do expect they will continue to support the F mount. Ricoh has signaled that they are going to stick with SLR cameras, their soon to be seen APS-C flagship is apparently going to have a 1.05% viewfinder, which will be a great improvement over their present ones that are somewhere around 90%, IIRC. Pentax has the benefit of being very small, not a bad thing these days. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP
Thanks, everyone! I’m so out of touch with Pentax gear; it’s embarrassing. I was also stunned to hear about Canon and Nikon’s shift to mirrorless cameras. I hope to give all my gear a workout for the next couple of weeks. I have a few photo-homework-assignments in mind with the hope of getting my photog-eye back into shape. Cheers, Christine > On Sep 28, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Pete McIntosh wrote: > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Christine Aguila" > To: "PDML List" > Sent: 28/09/20 9:56:06 > Subject: Pentax KP > >> Hi all! >> Anyone shooting with the Pentax KP? >> If so, thoughts? >> Cheers, Christine >> >> > I've got one. I second everything Toine said, including getting extra > batteries. > > I use mine with the DA 15mm, 21mm and 40mm lenses and love it. It's my > lockdown walkabout camera. > > Ciao, > > Pete Mac in Melbourne >> > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP
-- Original Message -- From: "Christine Aguila" To: "PDML List" Sent: 28/09/20 9:56:06 Subject: Pentax KP Hi all! Anyone shooting with the Pentax KP? If so, thoughts? Cheers, Christine I've got one. I second everything Toine said, including getting extra batteries. I use mine with the DA 15mm, 21mm and 40mm lenses and love it. It's my lockdown walkabout camera. Ciao, Pete Mac in Melbourne -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP
We who pay for stuff with the Candian Peso don't have the luxury of forgetting that exchange rate thing. Grrr. On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 1:37 PM wrote: > > Oops, forgot about that 35% exchange rate thing > > On September 28, 2020 10:11:39 AM PDT, Bill > wrote: > >On Mon., Sep. 28, 2020, 10:06 a.m. , wrote: > > > >> Nikon charged more for their aps than they do for their full frame? > > > > > >In my world, the price drops on camera bodies that are a couple of > >years > >old. Thats why people on forums often say they will wait for the price > >to > >come down prior to buying. > >I'm not sure if that happens in your world or not. > >Expect the next Pentax full frame to be closer to $3k at release. > >Right now, the K1 mkII body is right in the $2.5k range. That's Can$, > >not > >FSA$, BTW. > > > >bill > > > > > > > > > >> On September 28, 2020 5:56:26 AM PDT, Bill > > > >> wrote: > >> >On Sun., Sep. 27, 2020, 8:44 p.m. Larry Colen, > >wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Sep 27, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Bill > >> >wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Also, it looks like a new flagship level APS-C body is just over > >> >the > >> >> > horizon. From the looks of the way Ricoh is pricing stuff, I > >> >expect it > >> >> > will be priced well north of $2k, I expect somewhere around > >$2.5k. > >> >> > >> >> That would certainly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. > >> >> > >> > > >> >Yeah, we all think Pentax should offer more features for 70% of what > >> >Nikon > >> >gets to charge for their cameras. > >> >That was the winning strategy that cost them their company and put > >them > >> >into the loving embrace of Hoya. > >> >Ricoh doesn't seem interested in that sort of winning. > >> > > >> >bill > >> >-- > >> >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> >PDML@pdml.net > >> >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > >and > >> >follow the directions. > >> > >> -- > >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > >and > >> follow the directions. > >> > >-- > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >PDML@pdml.net > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >follow the directions. > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP
Oops, forgot about that 35% exchange rate thing On September 28, 2020 10:11:39 AM PDT, Bill wrote: >On Mon., Sep. 28, 2020, 10:06 a.m. , wrote: > >> Nikon charged more for their aps than they do for their full frame? > > >In my world, the price drops on camera bodies that are a couple of >years >old. Thats why people on forums often say they will wait for the price >to >come down prior to buying. >I'm not sure if that happens in your world or not. >Expect the next Pentax full frame to be closer to $3k at release. >Right now, the K1 mkII body is right in the $2.5k range. That's Can$, >not >FSA$, BTW. > >bill > > > > >> On September 28, 2020 5:56:26 AM PDT, Bill > >> wrote: >> >On Sun., Sep. 27, 2020, 8:44 p.m. Larry Colen, >wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Sep 27, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Bill >> >wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Also, it looks like a new flagship level APS-C body is just over >> >the >> >> > horizon. From the looks of the way Ricoh is pricing stuff, I >> >expect it >> >> > will be priced well north of $2k, I expect somewhere around >$2.5k. >> >> >> >> That would certainly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. >> >> >> > >> >Yeah, we all think Pentax should offer more features for 70% of what >> >Nikon >> >gets to charge for their cameras. >> >That was the winning strategy that cost them their company and put >them >> >into the loving embrace of Hoya. >> >Ricoh doesn't seem interested in that sort of winning. >> > >> >bill >> >-- >> >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> >PDML@pdml.net >> >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >and >> >follow the directions. >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >and >> follow the directions. >> >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP
On Mon., Sep. 28, 2020, 10:06 a.m. , wrote: > Nikon charged more for their aps than they do for their full frame? In my world, the price drops on camera bodies that are a couple of years old. Thats why people on forums often say they will wait for the price to come down prior to buying. I'm not sure if that happens in your world or not. Expect the next Pentax full frame to be closer to $3k at release. Right now, the K1 mkII body is right in the $2.5k range. That's Can$, not FSA$, BTW. bill > On September 28, 2020 5:56:26 AM PDT, Bill > wrote: > >On Sun., Sep. 27, 2020, 8:44 p.m. Larry Colen, wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> > On Sep 27, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Bill > >wrote: > >> > > >> > Also, it looks like a new flagship level APS-C body is just over > >the > >> > horizon. From the looks of the way Ricoh is pricing stuff, I > >expect it > >> > will be priced well north of $2k, I expect somewhere around $2.5k. > >> > >> That would certainly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. > >> > > > >Yeah, we all think Pentax should offer more features for 70% of what > >Nikon > >gets to charge for their cameras. > >That was the winning strategy that cost them their company and put them > >into the loving embrace of Hoya. > >Ricoh doesn't seem interested in that sort of winning. > > > >bill > >-- > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >PDML@pdml.net > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >follow the directions. > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP
In my opinion probably not more expensive than the XT-4 which is $1.6k. Henk Op 2020-09-28 om 04:06 schreef Bill: On Sun., Sep. 27, 2020, 5:56 p.m. Christine Aguila, wrote: Hi all! Anyone shooting with the Pentax KP? If so, thoughts? Cheers, Christine Pentax Forums has a section devoted to that body. It seems to be well enough liked. Also, it looks like a new flagship level APS-C body is just over the horizon. From the looks of the way Ricoh is pricing stuff, I expect it will be priced well north of $2k, I expect somewhere around $2.5k. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP
Nikon charged more for their aps than they do for their full frame? On September 28, 2020 5:56:26 AM PDT, Bill wrote: >On Sun., Sep. 27, 2020, 8:44 p.m. Larry Colen, wrote: > >> >> >> > On Sep 27, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Bill >wrote: >> > >> > Also, it looks like a new flagship level APS-C body is just over >the >> > horizon. From the looks of the way Ricoh is pricing stuff, I >expect it >> > will be priced well north of $2k, I expect somewhere around $2.5k. >> >> That would certainly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. >> > >Yeah, we all think Pentax should offer more features for 70% of what >Nikon >gets to charge for their cameras. >That was the winning strategy that cost them their company and put them >into the loving embrace of Hoya. >Ricoh doesn't seem interested in that sort of winning. > >bill >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP
On Sun., Sep. 27, 2020, 8:44 p.m. Larry Colen, wrote: > > > > On Sep 27, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Bill wrote: > > > > Also, it looks like a new flagship level APS-C body is just over the > > horizon. From the looks of the way Ricoh is pricing stuff, I expect it > > will be priced well north of $2k, I expect somewhere around $2.5k. > > That would certainly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. > Yeah, we all think Pentax should offer more features for 70% of what Nikon gets to charge for their cameras. That was the winning strategy that cost them their company and put them into the loving embrace of Hoya. Ricoh doesn't seem interested in that sort of winning. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP
Yes I do. I like every bit of it. The user interface is a bit complicated. The basics are the same old Pentax style. Battery life is ok, I got a few Ansmann replacements from amazon for 15 euro and they are the same as the original. Problem solved. On Mon, 28 Sep 2020, 04:44 Larry Colen, wrote: > > > > On Sep 27, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Bill wrote: > > > > Also, it looks like a new flagship level APS-C body is just over the > > horizon. From the looks of the way Ricoh is pricing stuff, I expect it > > will be priced well north of $2k, I expect somewhere around $2.5k. > > That would certainly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. > > -- > Larry Colen > l...@red4est.com > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP
> On Sep 27, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Bill wrote: > > Also, it looks like a new flagship level APS-C body is just over the > horizon. From the looks of the way Ricoh is pricing stuff, I expect it > will be priced well north of $2k, I expect somewhere around $2.5k. That would certainly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP
On Sun., Sep. 27, 2020, 5:56 p.m. Christine Aguila, wrote: > Hi all! > Anyone shooting with the Pentax KP? > If so, thoughts? > Cheers, Christine > Pentax Forums has a section devoted to that body. It seems to be well enough liked. Also, it looks like a new flagship level APS-C body is just over the horizon. From the looks of the way Ricoh is pricing stuff, I expect it will be priced well north of $2k, I expect somewhere around $2.5k. bill > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP Video
six of one, half dozen of the other. On 2/1/2020 06:20:23, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 1/2/20, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: wonders 'wanders' should be! -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP Video
Both actually! Alan C On 01-Feb-20 01:20 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 1/2/20, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: wonders 'wanders' should be! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP Video
On 1/2/20, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: >wonders 'wanders' should be! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ UK Shoot / Edit || (O) | -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP camera size compared to K-5 and K-3 (long).
Hi I do believe I need to clarify something first. I born without thumbs and this does influence how I look at and use things. I bought my first SLR - a ME Super because it was the smallest SLR at the time and worked best for me. The 2 button interface which many don't like I actually prefer. Reading this post and thinking back at some other posts I have seen I do feel I have to comment. Last year I was looking at getting a new camera to upgrade from the K10 I had been using for 9-10 years. All the posts on the list about how much better low light performance is on the newer camera's finally penetrated. Here in South Africa we can't walk into a shop and look at Pentax camera's so I got hold of the distributor and got the KS-2 and K3 sent to a shop for me to look at. I did not even look at the K3 as the KS-2 fitted in my hands so well. I just feel I have to ask if we are not tending to knock camera design changes without actually trying them. Patrick On 2017/01/26 08:53 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I don't think that the style of the Df influenced the style of the KP as much as the questions of how do we make the camera appear smaller, (ah shave of a couple of mm from the right top plate, and the grip. Hum, well now where do we put that pesky front wheel? Ah vertically on the front panel the new replaceable grips will protect it. Now we have to have some kind of unifying element. This is a break with the past, we're going to use the new three wheel metaphor from the K-1 so make the prism/flash look like that. Maybe later someone said hey that looks like a Nikon. But I doubt they started out to do that. They just wanted it to look small. That's what marketing wanted, that's what marketing got. Having used the K-5 I think that it was an engineering/photographer centered design. It was as small as it could be while being as big as it had to be. The same seems to be true of the K-3. After that the marketers took over design and the K-S1 was the result. The new current result is the KP. Not as garish as the K-S1 but I see the same heavy handed design team somewhat chastened, but still there. Pentax said they learned their lesson with the endless *ist-D variations that didn't improve anything just made cheaper cameras using older technology. DS, DL, DS2, DL2, all cut out with the same cookie cutter. For a time the engineers took over and the results were an amazing advancement in technology for Pentax. Right up to the K-7. Then Hoya took over and the K-5 which was probably the last real Pentax design, was cheapened and sold for the highest profits possible. Under Ricoh the K-5II/s fulfilled the promise of the K-5. But really still good solid usable cameras. What a photographer want's. Substance over style mostly. The K-3 was a fantastic camera it impressed even Nikon fanboys, and you don't get much more rabid than that, it brought back the fn Key to explicitly change the behavior of the multi function pad, but it also made a few design decisions that were pretty meaningless such as the switch that used to control metering pattern become a switch to control the center locking button on the mode dial. Ricoh cares about quality but they also care more about marketing and in the current era their marketers are just as clueless as Pentax's were. The K-S1 was obviously marketer driven, and it was a failure. Only a few of it's features, the less harmful and ridiculous ones, were carried over to the K-S2 and the merger of the K-S line into the more or less mainstream Pentax cameras line, we're going to see those influences continue and not for the better, I'm afraid. I think the K-1 is the last Pentax engineering design. Designed and built mostly by engineers who are also photographers. Tue less said about Pentax's previous forays into Mirrorless the better it seems, even Ricoh want's to shove them down the memory hole. On 1/26/2017 12:59 PM, John wrote: I don't think Ricoh mistakes the Df for a sales leader either. But, if you compare the "style" of the KP in relation to the rest of the Pentax line of DSLRs and then compare the "style" of the Df in relation to the rest of Nikon's line-up, I think there are some similarities. On 1/26/2017 12:32 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I don't think so, the only thing retro about the KP is the shape of the "pentaprism" housing, and that's not particularly retro based on physics. I doubt even Ricoh, (ex Pentax), marketing could mistake the Nikon Df as a top sales leader. On 1/26/2017 11:38 AM, John wrote: On 1/25/2017 8:18 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: There is no meaningful size difference between a KP and K-5. http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,187 Ditto the KP and K-3 just in case anyone cared... http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,485 I think this may be the more meaningful comparison: http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,495 The KP seems to have that same retro look. Comment on
Re: Pentax KP camera size compared to K-5 and K-3 (long).
I don't think that the style of the Df influenced the style of the KP as much as the questions of how do we make the camera appear smaller, (ah shave of a couple of mm from the right top plate, and the grip. Hum, well now where do we put that pesky front wheel? Ah vertically on the front panel the new replaceable grips will protect it. Now we have to have some kind of unifying element. This is a break with the past, we're going to use the new three wheel metaphor from the K-1 so make the prism/flash look like that. Maybe later someone said hey that looks like a Nikon. But I doubt they started out to do that. They just wanted it to look small. That's what marketing wanted, that's what marketing got. Having used the K-5 I think that it was an engineering/photographer centered design. It was as small as it could be while being as big as it had to be. The same seems to be true of the K-3. After that the marketers took over design and the K-S1 was the result. The new current result is the KP. Not as garish as the K-S1 but I see the same heavy handed design team somewhat chastened, but still there. Pentax said they learned their lesson with the endless *ist-D variations that didn't improve anything just made cheaper cameras using older technology. DS, DL, DS2, DL2, all cut out with the same cookie cutter. For a time the engineers took over and the results were an amazing advancement in technology for Pentax. Right up to the K-7. Then Hoya took over and the K-5 which was probably the last real Pentax design, was cheapened and sold for the highest profits possible. Under Ricoh the K-5II/s fulfilled the promise of the K-5. But really still good solid usable cameras. What a photographer want's. Substance over style mostly. The K-3 was a fantastic camera it impressed even Nikon fanboys, and you don't get much more rabid than that, it brought back the fn Key to explicitly change the behavior of the multi function pad, but it also made a few design decisions that were pretty meaningless such as the switch that used to control metering pattern become a switch to control the center locking button on the mode dial. Ricoh cares about quality but they also care more about marketing and in the current era their marketers are just as clueless as Pentax's were. The K-S1 was obviously marketer driven, and it was a failure. Only a few of it's features, the less harmful and ridiculous ones, were carried over to the K-S2 and the merger of the K-S line into the more or less mainstream Pentax cameras line, we're going to see those influences continue and not for the better, I'm afraid. I think the K-1 is the last Pentax engineering design. Designed and built mostly by engineers who are also photographers. Tue less said about Pentax's previous forays into Mirrorless the better it seems, even Ricoh want's to shove them down the memory hole. On 1/26/2017 12:59 PM, John wrote: I don't think Ricoh mistakes the Df for a sales leader either. But, if you compare the "style" of the KP in relation to the rest of the Pentax line of DSLRs and then compare the "style" of the Df in relation to the rest of Nikon's line-up, I think there are some similarities. On 1/26/2017 12:32 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I don't think so, the only thing retro about the KP is the shape of the "pentaprism" housing, and that's not particularly retro based on physics. I doubt even Ricoh, (ex Pentax), marketing could mistake the Nikon Df as a top sales leader. On 1/26/2017 11:38 AM, John wrote: On 1/25/2017 8:18 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: There is no meaningful size difference between a KP and K-5. http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,187 Ditto the KP and K-3 just in case anyone cared... http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,485 I think this may be the more meaningful comparison: http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,495 The KP seems to have that same retro look. Comment on DPReview, "Looks like a mini-Pentax 67 (LOL)" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP camera size compared to K-5 and K-3
I don't think Ricoh mistakes the Df for a sales leader either. But, if you compare the "style" of the KP in relation to the rest of the Pentax line of DSLRs and then compare the "style" of the Df in relation to the rest of Nikon's line-up, I think there are some similarities. On 1/26/2017 12:32 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I don't think so, the only thing retro about the KP is the shape of the "pentaprism" housing, and that's not particularly retro based on physics. I doubt even Ricoh, (ex Pentax), marketing could mistake the Nikon Df as a top sales leader. On 1/26/2017 11:38 AM, John wrote: On 1/25/2017 8:18 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: There is no meaningful size difference between a KP and K-5. http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,187 Ditto the KP and K-3 just in case anyone cared... http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,485 I think this may be the more meaningful comparison: http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,495 The KP seems to have that same retro look. Comment on DPReview, "Looks like a mini-Pentax 67 (LOL)" -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP camera size compared to K-5 and K-3
Looking at the top plates of both cameras dispels all illusions. The Pentax isn't a retro design aping an old film camera, it's a digital camera with one design touch from the film era. The Nikon is a serial killer wearing the skin suit of a victim... On 1/26/2017 11:38 AM, John wrote: On 1/25/2017 8:18 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: There is no meaningful size difference between a KP and K-5. http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,187 Ditto the KP and K-3 just in case anyone cared... http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,485 I think this may be the more meaningful comparison: http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,495 The KP seems to have that same retro look. Comment on DPReview, "Looks like a mini-Pentax 67 (LOL)" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP camera size compared to K-5 and K-3
I don't think so, the only thing retro about the KP is the shape of the "pentaprism" housing, and that's not particularly retro based on physics. I doubt even Ricoh, (ex Pentax), marketing could mistake the Nikon Df as a top sales leader. On 1/26/2017 11:38 AM, John wrote: On 1/25/2017 8:18 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: There is no meaningful size difference between a KP and K-5. http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,187 Ditto the KP and K-3 just in case anyone cared... http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,485 I think this may be the more meaningful comparison: http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,495 The KP seems to have that same retro look. Comment on DPReview, "Looks like a mini-Pentax 67 (LOL)" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1/25/2017 8:18 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: There is no meaningful size difference between a KP and K-5. http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,187 Ditto the KP and K-3 just in case anyone cared... http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,485 I think this may be the more meaningful comparison: http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,495 The KP seems to have that same retro look. Comment on DPReview, "Looks like a mini-Pentax 67 (LOL)" -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I like the principle of 3 alternative grips. Why? Because feel & fit is how I've recommended cameras to many people. That is, hold it and see how it works in your hand. I'm a little confused about the Fx1, Fx2, Fx3. Or am I too out of touch with the new tech for those and the C1, C2, C3, Ch/Cl That delete button alternative function looks like a (video mode) crop, panorama, or compress maybe? It's definitely on the hobby/enthusiast side. That would explain the simpler/lighter-duty screen articulation. The front knob angle seems immaterial. Might be an individual preference thing. It does remind me of the Nikon Df. But it seems to represent, as noted, a style uniformity move as it borrows from the K1. I'd anticipate seeing more of this in the next few models. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24 Jan 2017, at 12:41, Steve Cottrellwrote: > > On 24/1/17, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> These seem realistic. Certainly a 'bold' looking design: >> >> http://www.nokishita-camera.com/2017/01/pentax-kp_24.html > > That is one butt-ugly camera. > > Why am I thinking Kenny's Peanuts? I like it. Nice big knobs. Knobby Pentax. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP Pictures
This is a nice looking midrange camera. It isn't the k-3 replacement. On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Larry Colenwrote: > > > P. J. Alling wrote: >> >> Certainly has enough, probably customizable dials. > > check, see the setting U1, u2 ... >> >> >> I don't care that some people think the top LCD has outlived it's >> usefulness, I use it all the time. > > > Likewise, I hate using the back screen to check my settings. >> >> >> I think the placement of the shutter button especially with the addition >> of optional deep hand grip is a step backward, so is the optional deep >> hand grip, which limits the battery capacity, the body is still thick >> pushing the mirror box way out front, might as well have a comfortable >> integrated grip for the larger battery capacity. >> >> I never noticed it at the time, probably because I was used to it, but >> with the full grip hand grip the LX shutter button is awkward compared >> to the placement of the shutter button on the K-5. >> >> The battery looks like the same battery used in the K-50 so a step back >> in power, making the optional battery grip much less of an option. > > > D-li 109, same as in a whole bunch of cameras, since IIRC the K-r. At least > they aren't coming up with a new battery standard. This camera seems to be > optimized for small size. >> >> >> The front dial placement seems to be a awkward as well. > > > I think so too, especially if you'll be switching back and forth. >> >> >> I expect that it will have some fantastic specifications seriously >> nobbled by the power requirements of a too small power cell. > > > It just means that you'll only get a few hundred frames per charge. >> >> >> I wonder if I can get a good deal on a used K-3, though it doesn't look >> like it. K-3s seem to be cold dead hands cameras. > > > I'm sure you can. A lot of people with K-3s moved, or are moving to, K-1s. > > I wonder what the > > v > --- > ^ > button on the upper left is. > > It has no GPS and no wifi, but it does have a flash. > > The WR lens implies that it is weather sealed. > > It seems as if they are abandoning the high end APS market and are going for > a really nice low end APS DSLR. > > >> >> >> On 1/24/2017 5:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote: >>> >>> These seem realistic. Certainly a 'bold' looking design: >>> >>> http://www.nokishita-camera.com/2017/01/pentax-kp_24.html >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> Brian >>> >>> ++ >>> Brian Walters >>> Western Sydney Australia >>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ >>> >> >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The articulated screen on the K-1 is better. That looks to be a step backward. On 1/24/2017 7:25 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: For a DSLR I much prefer this kind of tiltable LCD than the K-70 'videocamera style' one. Forget about selfies, though El Martes 24 de enero de 2017 11:48, Brian Waltersescribió: These seem realistic. Certainly a 'bold' looking design: http://www.nokishita-camera.com/2017/01/pentax-kp_24.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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P. J. Alling wrote: Certainly has enough, probably customizable dials. check, see the setting U1, u2 ... I don't care that some people think the top LCD has outlived it's usefulness, I use it all the time. Likewise, I hate using the back screen to check my settings. I think the placement of the shutter button especially with the addition of optional deep hand grip is a step backward, so is the optional deep hand grip, which limits the battery capacity, the body is still thick pushing the mirror box way out front, might as well have a comfortable integrated grip for the larger battery capacity. I never noticed it at the time, probably because I was used to it, but with the full grip hand grip the LX shutter button is awkward compared to the placement of the shutter button on the K-5. The battery looks like the same battery used in the K-50 so a step back in power, making the optional battery grip much less of an option. D-li 109, same as in a whole bunch of cameras, since IIRC the K-r. At least they aren't coming up with a new battery standard. This camera seems to be optimized for small size. The front dial placement seems to be a awkward as well. I think so too, especially if you'll be switching back and forth. I expect that it will have some fantastic specifications seriously nobbled by the power requirements of a too small power cell. It just means that you'll only get a few hundred frames per charge. I wonder if I can get a good deal on a used K-3, though it doesn't look like it. K-3s seem to be cold dead hands cameras. I'm sure you can. A lot of people with K-3s moved, or are moving to, K-1s. I wonder what the v --- ^ button on the upper left is. It has no GPS and no wifi, but it does have a flash. The WR lens implies that it is weather sealed. It seems as if they are abandoning the high end APS market and are going for a really nice low end APS DSLR. On 1/24/2017 5:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote: These seem realistic. Certainly a 'bold' looking design: http://www.nokishita-camera.com/2017/01/pentax-kp_24.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It follows the K-3 system, where the focus modes are set by pressing the button above the AF/MF Switch. Whether the mode is changed by pressing the button and twiddling a dial or just repeated pressing I don't know, I shot a K-5II and, (ever more), occasionally a K20D. On 1/24/2017 10:18 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: What's interesting and a bit strange is the loss of AF-C mode, - at least from the focus mode switch. (It might be hidden in the menues, - but based on the shift toward "analog" controls, it is less likely; maybe it is again just in one of the modes, as it was in the "sports" mode in one of the earlier Pentax DSLRs, IIRC. Igor Brian Walters Tue, 24 Jan 2017 02:49:03 -0800 wrote: These seem realistic. Certainly a 'bold' looking design: http://www.nokishita-camera.com/2017/01/pentax-kp_24.html Cheers Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What's interesting and a bit strange is the loss of AF-C mode, - at least from the focus mode switch. (It might be hidden in the menues, - but based on the shift toward "analog" controls, it is less likely; maybe it is again just in one of the modes, as it was in the "sports" mode in one of the earlier Pentax DSLRs, IIRC. Igor Brian Walters Tue, 24 Jan 2017 02:49:03 -0800 wrote: These seem realistic. Certainly a 'bold' looking design: http://www.nokishita-camera.com/2017/01/pentax-kp_24.html Cheers Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: >Some things I like: analog controls, tilting lcd screen. But I agree. >Gimme Fuji. Haha but we're not supposed to actually consider these ahem photographic tools as objet d'art now are we!! Unless of course it's a Leica ;-) (Or an Oly Pen F ;- -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Certainly has enough, probably customizable dials. I don't care that some people think the top LCD has outlived it's usefulness, I use it all the time. I think the placement of the shutter button especially with the addition of optional deep hand grip is a step backward, so is the optional deep hand grip, which limits the battery capacity, the body is still thick pushing the mirror box way out front, might as well have a comfortable integrated grip for the larger battery capacity. I never noticed it at the time, probably because I was used to it, but with the full grip hand grip the LX shutter button is awkward compared to the placement of the shutter button on the K-5. The battery looks like the same battery used in the K-50 so a step back in power, making the optional battery grip much less of an option. The front dial placement seems to be a awkward as well. I expect that it will have some fantastic specifications seriously nobbled by the power requirements of a too small power cell. I wonder if I can get a good deal on a used K-3, though it doesn't look like it. K-3s seem to be cold dead hands cameras. On 1/24/2017 5:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote: These seem realistic. Certainly a 'bold' looking design: http://www.nokishita-camera.com/2017/01/pentax-kp_24.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On Jan 24, 2017, at 7:40 AM, Steve Cottrellwrote: > > On 24/1/17, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> These seem realistic. Certainly a 'bold' looking design: >> >> http://www.nokishita-camera.com/2017/01/pentax-kp_24.html > > That is one butt-ugly camera. Some things I like: analog controls, tilting lcd screen. But I agree. Gimme Fuji. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net (I)t is important that awake people be awake... the darkness around us is deep. - William Stafford -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Brian Walters wrote: >These seem realistic. Certainly a 'bold' looking design: > >http://www.nokishita-camera.com/2017/01/pentax-kp_24.html So it's an APS-C camera with a K-1 control layout. Good idea. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24/1/17, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed: >These seem realistic. Certainly a 'bold' looking design: > >http://www.nokishita-camera.com/2017/01/pentax-kp_24.html That is one butt-ugly camera. Why am I thinking Kenny's Peanuts? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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For a DSLR I much prefer this kind of tiltable LCD than the K-70 'videocamera style' one. Forget about selfies, though El Martes 24 de enero de 2017 11:48, Brian Waltersescribió: These seem realistic. Certainly a 'bold' looking design: http://www.nokishita-camera.com/2017/01/pentax-kp_24.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP??
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 06:51 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: > There are a lot of rumors swirling they will introduce a mirrorless > system with a new mount this year. Don't give up hope just yet. I haven't given up hope but, like those who moved on to other brands because the Pentax full frame took so long to develop, I've invested in m43 because of Pentax/Ricoh not getting serious about mirrorless. That wont necessarily stop me buying a Pentax mirrorless if a competitive one turns up, but it's just taking so bloody long. The K-01 and Q came out over 4 years ago so it's not as if they don't know how to build one. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Brian Walters> wrote: > > DSLR? I was hoping mirrorless. > > > > Cheers > > > > Brian > > > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 02:07 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: > >> A new DSLR cometh! > >> > >> http://photorumors.com/2017/01/13/new-pentax-kp-dslr-camera-rumored-to-be-announced-next-month-at-the-cp-show/ > >> > >> -- -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP??
Most "classic" Pentax lens optics show serious fringing on DSLRs. The new lenses are far better. Some primes would be fun, but zoom technology has advanced to the point where developing primes is somewhat impractical. I suspect that the D FA 150-450 is superior to any 300 or 400 mm prime Pentax ever made, and I wouldn't be surprised to find that the D FA 15-30 is better than any of the old Pentax wide primes. Paul via phone > On Jan 13, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Stanley Halpin> wrote: > > >> On Jan 13, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: >> >> There are a lot of rumors swirling they will introduce a mirrorless >> system with a new mount this year. Don't give up hope just yet. > > I wonder if there will be a K-mount adapter? With aperture simulator… > (I don’t really care except in terms of I would like to see the brand > maintain a degree of viability and I continue to hold out hope that sooner or > later they will release modern AW versions of some classic “full frame” 35mm > capable prime lenses with updated coatings etc…) > > stan > >> >>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Brian Walters >>> wrote: >>> DSLR? I was hoping mirrorless. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Brian >>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 02:07 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: A new DSLR cometh! http://photorumors.com/2017/01/13/new-pentax-kp-dslr-camera-rumored-to-be-announced-next-month-at-the-cp-show/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On Jan 13, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Zos Xaviuswrote: > > There are a lot of rumors swirling they will introduce a mirrorless > system with a new mount this year. Don't give up hope just yet. I wonder if there will be a K-mount adapter? With aperture simulator… (I don’t really care except in terms of I would like to see the brand maintain a degree of viability and I continue to hold out hope that sooner or later they will release modern AW versions of some classic “full frame” 35mm capable prime lenses with updated coatings etc…) stan > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Brian Walters wrote: >> DSLR? I was hoping mirrorless. >> >> Cheers >> >> Brian >> >> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 02:07 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: >>> A new DSLR cometh! >>> >>> http://photorumors.com/2017/01/13/new-pentax-kp-dslr-camera-rumored-to-be-announced-next-month-at-the-cp-show/ >>> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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There are a lot of rumors swirling they will introduce a mirrorless system with a new mount this year. Don't give up hope just yet. On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Brian Walterswrote: > DSLR? I was hoping mirrorless. > > Cheers > > Brian > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 02:07 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: >> A new DSLR cometh! >> >> http://photorumors.com/2017/01/13/new-pentax-kp-dslr-camera-rumored-to-be-announced-next-month-at-the-cp-show/ >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > -- > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - Same, same, but different... > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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DSLR? I was hoping mirrorless. Cheers Brian On Sat, Jan 14, 2017, at 02:07 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: > A new DSLR cometh! > > http://photorumors.com/2017/01/13/new-pentax-kp-dslr-camera-rumored-to-be-announced-next-month-at-the-cp-show/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Same, same, but different... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I said "if" for a reason. >> If Pentax can be the one to get WiFi (& maybe Bluetooth) done right, what a coup! > Are you kidding. The wifi in my K-1 is, as far as I can tell, completely useless. > I actually forgot that it was there. They can't even do USB right, they downgraded > the USB form USB3 to USB2 in the body. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's because the k-1 was in development for far longer than the k-3. To be perfectly honest the k-3's USB speed is hardly much faster than USB2 anyways. On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Larry Colenwrote: > > > Collin B wrote: >> >> If Pentax can be the one to get WiFi (& maybe Bluetooth) done right, what >> a >> coup! > > > Are you kidding. The wifi in my K-1 is, as far as I can tell, completely > useless. I actually forgot that it was there. They can't even do USB > right, they downgraded the USB form USB3 to USB2 in the body. > > >> >> Let's have 802.11ac speed& multi-point Bluetooth. >> Add to this a wifi/bt ssd in your pocket to receive the images from the >> camera. >> And a nice dashboard tether. >> And ... why not just add another processor for handling I/O, along with >> another battery for its consumption. >> >> I offered my design/development services a few years ago but never heard >> back ... >> Just dreamin' >> >> >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Collin B wrote: If Pentax can be the one to get WiFi (& maybe Bluetooth) done right, what a coup! Are you kidding. The wifi in my K-1 is, as far as I can tell, completely useless. I actually forgot that it was there. They can't even do USB right, they downgraded the USB form USB3 to USB2 in the body. Let's have 802.11ac speed& multi-point Bluetooth. Add to this a wifi/bt ssd in your pocket to receive the images from the camera. And a nice dashboard tether. And ... why not just add another processor for handling I/O, along with another battery for its consumption. I offered my design/development services a few years ago but never heard back ... Just dreamin' -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If Pentax can be the one to get WiFi (& maybe Bluetooth) done right, what a coup! Let's have 802.11ac speed & multi-point Bluetooth. Add to this a wifi/bt ssd in your pocket to receive the images from the camera. And a nice dashboard tether. And ... why not just add another processor for handling I/O, along with another battery for its consumption. I offered my design/development services a few years ago but never heard back ... Just dreamin' -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax KP??
Interesting, Pentax, (well Ricoh I guess), has so made such a hash of it's naming convention that I can't even guess if it's a successor to the K-7/5/3 line or a successor to the K-30/50/70 or something out of left field like the K-S1. I say that they've done this to build buzz and keep us guessing but I don't think Pentax plans that far ahead. On 1/13/2017 10:07 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: A new DSLR cometh! http://photorumors.com/2017/01/13/new-pentax-kp-dslr-camera-rumored-to-be-announced-next-month-at-the-cp-show/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.