Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-19 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 18 May 2018 at 23:33, Paul Sorenson wrote: > Didn't know they made them with right-hand drive... > > Ha! They don't. The door is on the "wrong" side for the UK, but OK for Europe of course. CM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-18 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 18/5/18, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed: >Here's my retirement present. Hopefully many years of freewheeling to come. >I retire on 31 July. Can't wait. > >https://www.dropbox.com/s/eaulho5sspesx7l/IMG_20180415_135710.jpg?dl=0 Wowsers! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot /

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-18 Thread Paul Sorenson
Didn't know they made them with right-hand drive... -p On 5/18/2018 12:23 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote: On 13 May 2018 at 20:25, Christine Aguila wrote: I think I”m going to start thinking of what my retirement present will be. Here's my retirement present.

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-18 Thread mike wilson
> On 18 May 2018 at 20:16 Chris Mitchell wrote: > > > On 18 May 2018 at 18:36, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > > > > > > Funny-looking bike - how do you pedal it? > > > > Freewheeling doesn't need pedals... That's not freewheeling; that's toading. -- PDML

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-18 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 18 May 2018 at 18:36, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > > Funny-looking bike - how do you pedal it? > > Freewheeling doesn't need pedals... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-18 Thread Bill
On 5/18/2018 11:36 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 18 May 2018, at 18:24, Chris Mitchell wrote: On 13 May 2018 at 20:25, Christine Aguila wrote: I think I”m going to start thinking of what my retirement present will be. Here's my retirement

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-18 Thread Bill
On 5/18/2018 11:36 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 18 May 2018, at 18:24, Chris Mitchell wrote: On 13 May 2018 at 20:25, Christine Aguila wrote: I think I”m going to start thinking of what my retirement present will be. Here's my retirement

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-18 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 18 May 2018, at 18:24, Chris Mitchell wrote: > >> On 13 May 2018 at 20:25, Christine Aguila wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I think I”m going to start thinking of what my retirement present will be. >> > > Here's my retirement present. Hopefully

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-18 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 13 May 2018 at 20:25, Christine Aguila wrote: > > > > > I think I”m going to start thinking of what my retirement present will be. > Here's my retirement present. Hopefully many years of freewheeling to come. I retire on 31 July. Can't wait.

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-13 Thread John Francis
On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 06:20:47PM -0400, John wrote: > On 5/13/2018 06:48, Brian Walters wrote: > > > On 13 May 2018 at 01:13 Christine Aguila wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi All: > > > > > > I had the chance to hold the Sony A7 II???the mirrorless full frame. > > > Wow!

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-13 Thread Ken Waller
Sony is the only brand of T V I've purchased in the last 30 or so years - simply hard to beat their color rendition. -Original Message- >From: Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> >Subject: Re: Sony A7II > > > >John wrote: > >> >> Especially an electro

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-13 Thread John
On 5/13/2018 18:30, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 13/5/18, John, discombobulated, unleashed: Especially an electronics company whose products have always been a POS. I never had one that lasted a day longer than the warranty & I still haven't forgiven them for their rootkit debacle. Seems like a

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 13/5/18, John, discombobulated, unleashed: >Especially an electronics company whose products have always been a POS. >I never >had one that lasted a day longer than the warranty & I still haven't forgiven >them for their rootkit debacle. Seems like a great opportunity to roll out this

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-13 Thread Larry Colen
John wrote: Especially an electronics company whose products have always been a POS. I never had one that lasted a day longer than the warranty & I still haven't forgiven them for their rootkit debacle. Not quite true, back in the 80's they made some good products. -- Larry Colen

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-13 Thread J.C. O'Connell
my top of the line sony blu ray player is ten years old and still works fine. and I always loved those trinitron CRTs back in the day. jco On Sun, 13 May 2018 18:20:47 -0400, John wrote: On 5/13/2018 06:48, Brian Walters wrote: On 13 May 2018 at 01:13 Christine

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-13 Thread John
On 5/13/2018 06:48, Brian Walters wrote: On 13 May 2018 at 01:13 Christine Aguila wrote: Hi All: I had the chance to hold the Sony A7 II—the mirrorless full frame. Wow! It felt really nice in-hand. I thought the auto-focus had some zip to it as well. Just sayin

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Sent from my iPad > On May 13, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > Christine Aguila wrote: >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On May 13, 2018, at 8:18 AM, mike wilson wrote: >>> >>> What concerns me more is that Sony stuff is very

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-13 Thread Larry Colen
Christine Aguila wrote: Sent from my iPad On May 13, 2018, at 8:18 AM, mike wilson wrote: What concerns me more is that Sony stuff is very difficult and expensive to repair. In my experience, Sony won't release parts to other than franchised repairers. Very

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Sent from my iPad > On May 12, 2018, at 10:48 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 12/5/18, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I had the chance to hold the Sony A7 II--the mirrorless full frame. >> Wow! It felt really nice in-hand. I thought the auto-focus

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Sent from my iPad > On May 13, 2018, at 8:18 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > What concerns me more is that Sony stuff is very difficult and expensive to > repair. In my experience, Sony won't release parts to other than franchised > repairers. Very annoying when you

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-13 Thread mike wilson
What concerns me more is that Sony stuff is very difficult and expensive to repair. In my experience, Sony won't release parts to other than franchised repairers. Very annoying when you just want to replace a cracked case or something equally simple. > On 13 May 2018 at 11:48 Brian Walters

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-13 Thread Brian Walters
> On 13 May 2018 at 01:13 Christine Aguila wrote: > > > Hi All: > > I had the chance to hold the Sony A7 II—the mirrorless full frame. Wow! It > felt really nice in-hand. I thought the auto-focus had some zip to it as > well. > > Just sayin :-) Yes - but it's a

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 12/5/18, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: >I had the chance to hold the Sony A7 II--the mirrorless full frame. >Wow! It felt really nice in-hand. I thought the auto-focus had some >zip to it as well. The A7 has ended up being the weapon of choice as a small 3rd video camera

Re: Sony A7II

2018-05-12 Thread Jay Taylor
blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } You’re in trouble now Christine!The A7III is even better and SMC glass can be used with these cameras too. JayT Sent from

Sony A7II

2018-05-12 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi All: I had the chance to hold the Sony A7 II—the mirrorless full frame. Wow! It felt really nice in-hand. I thought the auto-focus had some zip to it as well. Just sayin :-) Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-12-31 Thread Boris Liberman
On 12/30/2014 13:52, Darren Addy wrote: the a7s performance has me thinking about selling a kidney. The body isn't terribly priced (at all, IMHO) but ... I think, I should invoke Mark here. Mark! :-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-12-30 Thread Darren Addy
Rather than start a new OT Sony thread, I think I'll just resurrect this one. I continue to be a wee bit fascinated by what Sony is doing with their a7 line. Despite the similar naming convention, they aren't the same camera (at all) but each seem to have a radically different sensor inside and

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-12-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Darren Addy wrote: Rather than start a new OT Sony thread, I think I'll just resurrect this one. Gosh. Thanks. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-12-30 Thread Zos Xavius
Actually most lenses that aren't retrofocus put out a fairly flat field. Longer lenses are telecentric by design. The curved sensor approach doesn't work with telecentric lenses since the light rays are all parallel. You need a matched lens to get real benefit from it and the benefit comes in

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-12-30 Thread Darren Addy
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Darren Addy wrote: Rather than start a new OT Sony thread, I think I'll just resurrect this one. Gosh. Thanks. Some people care enough to recycle reuse and some don't. :) :) :) -- Life is too short to put up

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-28 Thread Mark Roberts
On November 27, 2014 5:21:11 PM EST, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/11/2014 10:55 AM, J C OConnell wrote: I dont think the $1500 cameras are for beginners who dont know anything about cameras and lenses. They may not be for beginners but beginners buy them in droves. I hang out

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-28 Thread Larry Colen
But will it stimulate your aperture? I have a couple of drawers worth of manual focus glass in a variety of mounts, so of I was willing to spend $1700 to be able to use several hundred dollars worth of obsolete lenses without buying film, this might be a good camera for me. On November 27,

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Darren Addy wrote: By now you have probably seen the Sony announcement for the 24.3 MP a7ii full frame with in-body 5-axis image stabilization. This camera is has specs that are pretty close to what I expected from a first Pentax FF camera, and I think the most surprising thing about it the price

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread J C OConnell
pentax is not in direct competition with the sony a7ii because pentax is a DSLR with a k mount, and the sony is a mirrorless with a sony mount. On 11/27/2014 12:15 AM, Darren Addy wrote: By now you have probably seen the Sony announcement for the 24.3 MP a7ii full frame with in-body 5-axis

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Zos Xavius
The A7 has been disruptive and this will prove even more so. I know more than a few photographers that are buying them or are seriously considering it. Adding IBIS kind of seals the deal for many people. I'd be more interested if their were more affordable native lens options. Part of what has

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/11/14, J C OConnell, discombobulated, unleashed: pentax is not in direct competition with the sony a7ii because pentax is a DSLR with a k mount, and the sony is a mirrorless with a sony mount. With the greatest of respect, if I am in the market to buy a good camera with a kit lens

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread J C OConnell
, unleashed: pentax is not in direct competition with the sony a7ii because pentax is a DSLR with a k mount, and the sony is a mirrorless with a sony mount. With the greatest of respect, if I am in the market to buy a good camera with a kit lens, in what way are these two cameras not in direct

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Darren Addy
Point taken, Cotty. I would imagine that JC is speaking from the perspective of someone who already has an inventory of Pentax glass. And in that case he may be right if one puts the emphasis on his use of the word direct. However, and short flange to sensor mirrorless camera that has an adapter

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/11/14, J C OConnell, discombobulated, unleashed: If all you want is a camera and kit lens, might as well buy a point and shoot if your buying with intent to buy multiple lenses, then the mount matters because its the lens system your stuck with. I want to buy a good camera with a

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread J C OConnell
I dont think the $1500 cameras are for beginners who dont know anything about cameras and lenses. jco On 11/27/2014 11:37 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 27/11/14, J C OConnell, discombobulated, unleashed: If all you want is a camera and kit lens, might as well buy a point and shoot if your

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM, J C OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I dont think the $1500 cameras are for beginners who dont know anything about cameras and lenses. If you worked in one of the (rapidly dwindling) camera stores around the country, or spent some time observing in one, I

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 27, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Darren Addy wrote: By now you have probably seen the Sony announcement for the 24.3 MP a7ii full frame with in-body 5-axis image stabilization. This camera is has specs that are pretty close to what I expected from

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 27, 2014, at 8:37 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: I put it to you that Pentax is in direct competition with Sony and all of the above makes. The A7 would make a great body for your beloved Pentax 16 and 85 mm lenses... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Darren Addy
Just one other thought regarding the a7ii and contrasting with Pentax... Sony's announcing this camera prior to Black Friday and then announcing that it will be available/shipping for the holiday season will result in a lot of additional sales for them. Pentax NEVER seems to release products with

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/11/14, J C OConnell, discombobulated, unleashed: I dont think the $1500 cameras are for beginners who dont know anything about cameras and lenses. There ya go again! There are plenty of people out there who know nothing about photography who will pay that. Just like there are plenty of

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/11/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: The A7 would make a great body for your beloved Pentax 16 and 85 mm lenses... Actually I sold the K15/3.5 but I would consider buying the camera just for use with the A85/1.4 purely as a portrait rig. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 27, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: The A7 would make a great body for your beloved Pentax 16 and 85 mm lenses... Actually I sold the K15/3.5 but I would consider buying the camera just for use with the A85/1.4 purely as a portrait rig. You'd like it. I use

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Bill
On 27/11/2014 9:26 AM, J C OConnell wrote: pentax is not in direct competition with the sony a7ii because pentax is a DSLR with a k mount, and the sony is a mirrorless with a sony mount. Sony is, however, in direct competition with Pentax for camera body sales to people who want to use

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Bill
On 27/11/2014 10:55 AM, J C OConnell wrote: I dont think the $1500 cameras are for beginners who dont know anything about cameras and lenses. They may not be for beginners but beginners buy them in droves. I hang out ona forum dedicated to Fuji Mirrorless these days, there are a lot of rank

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread J C OConnell
NO as always, anyone who posts an opposing opinion to yours is called ignorant. Im sick of your postsYour last sentence was not necessary. On 11/27/2014 5:21 PM, Bill wrote: On 27/11/2014 10:55 AM, J C OConnell wrote: I dont think the $1500 cameras are for beginners who dont know anything

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Bill
On 27/11/2014 4:50 PM, J C OConnell wrote: NO as always, anyone who posts an opposing opinion to yours is called ignorant. No John, just the ignorant ones. Im sick of your posts Why don't you stop reading them then Your last sentence was not necessary. Your tasteless and opinionated

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Stanley Halpin
On Nov 27, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/11/2014 4:50 PM, J C OConnell wrote: NO as always, anyone who posts an opposing opinion to yours is called ignorant. No John, just the ignorant ones. Im sick of your posts Why don't you stop reading them then

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread John
On 11/27/2014 12:15 AM, Darren Addy wrote: By now you have probably seen the Sony announcement for the 24.3 MP a7ii full frame with in-body 5-axis image stabilization. This camera is has specs that are pretty close to what I expected from a first Pentax FF camera, and I think the most surprising

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread John
On 11/27/2014 6:14 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: On Nov 27, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/11/2014 4:50 PM, J C OConnell wrote: NO as always, anyone who posts an opposing opinion to yours is called ignorant. No John, just the ignorant ones. Im sick of your

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Paul
On 11/27/2014 5:14 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: Ah, ’tis the holiday season filled with good cheer and never-ending family squabbles about who it was that broke Gramma’s favorite relish dish 27 years ago and whose turn it is to wash the pots after dinner. Better than watching football on the

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-27 Thread Stanley Halpin
On Nov 28, 2014, at 12:05 AM, Paul pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/27/2014 5:14 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: Ah, ’tis the holiday season filled with good cheer and never-ending family squabbles about who it was that broke Gramma’s favorite relish dish 27 years ago and whose turn it is

Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-26 Thread Darren Addy
By now you have probably seen the Sony announcement for the 24.3 MP a7ii full frame with in-body 5-axis image stabilization. This camera is has specs that are pretty close to what I expected from a first Pentax FF camera, and I think the most surprising thing about it the price of $1698 for the

Re: Sony a7ii puts the squeeze on a possible Pentax FF

2014-11-26 Thread Paul Ewins
The last rumour I heard on the subject (from a pro photographer with strong links to the local distributor) was 36mp and to be called Spotmatic! Of course who knows how much *his* source actually knows and how much is speculation. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia On 27 Nov 2014, at 4:15 pm,