Re: [Pdns-users] 1 sec delay before DNS-answer at pdns-recursor

2013-06-26 Thread abang

Hi Shamus,

PowerDNS Recursor not listening at ::1 by default. But localhost 
resolves (/etc/hosts) to ::1 at the first try. So dig's first query 
fails. After 1 second (don't know why 1 second because default timeout 
is 3s), dig tries again at 127.0.0.1 and it works.


You have 3 possibilities:

1.) Force the Recursor to listen at ::1 (--local-address=127.0.0.1,::1)
2.) Explicitly dig IPv4 (dig @127.0.0.1 ...)
3.) Delete ::1 from /etc/hosts


  Winfried


Am 26.06.2013 00:26, schrieb Shamus Smith:

Hello all,

thanks for all your answers, but I'm still stuck. Below is the full
output for dig for pdns and dnsmasq.
The query time is 2 ms for the first uncached request and 0 ms for pdns
and dnsmasq. However, the
whole execution of the dig command takes over 1 second for pdns and
below 30 ms for dnsmasq. The
same for nslookup.


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Re: [Pdns-users] 1 sec delay before DNS-answer at pdns-recursor

2013-06-26 Thread Shamus Smith
Hello Winfried,


 PowerDNS Recursor not listening at ::1 by default. But localhost resolves 
 (/etc/hosts) to ::1 at the first try. So dig's first query fails.
 After 1 second (don't know why 1 second because default timeout is 3s), dig 
 tries again at 127.0.0.1 and it works.

BINGO!

 You have 3 possibilities:
 
 1.) Force the Recursor to listen at ::1 (--local-address=127.0.0.1,::1)

Worked.

 2.) Explicitly dig IPv4 (dig @127.0.0.1 ...)

Tried that before, worked.

 3.) Delete ::1 from /etc/hosts

Worked.

Thank you very much Winfried! Maybe PowerDNS Recursor should also listen to ::1 
by default, Dnsmasq seems to bind to all local interfaces by default.

@Michael, tried to use forward-zones-recurse before, but forget to mention it. 
It had the same delay.

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Re: [Pdns-users] 1 sec delay before DNS-answer at pdns-recursor

2013-06-25 Thread Shamus Smith
Hello all,

thanks for all your answers, but I'm still stuck. Below is the full output for 
dig for pdns and dnsmasq.
The query time is 2 ms for the first uncached request and 0 ms for pdns and 
dnsmasq. However, the
whole execution of the dig command takes over 1 second for pdns and below 30 ms 
for dnsmasq. The
same for nslookup.

For the second request trace just shows: 1 question answered from packet cache 
from 127.0.0.1
But it still takes more than 1 second.

- /etc/pdns-recursor/recursor.conf (default-config from package plus own 
forward-zone, removed comments)
forward-zones=.=8.8.8.8
setgid=pdns-recursor
setuid=pdns-recursor

- /etc/dnsmasq.conf (default-config from package, removed comments)
bogus-priv
cache-size=1500
domain-needed
no-hosts

- /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 localhost4.localdomain4
::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6 localhost6.localdomain6

/etc/nsswitch.conf was not modified and there is absolutely no load on the 
machine.
I do not have a LDAP user database, this is just a minimum install of CentOS 
6.5.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Shamus


# /etc/init.d/pdns-recursor start
pdns-recursor starten: [  OK  ]
# time dig www.google.com @localhost

;  DiG 9.8.2rc1-RedHat-9.8.2-0.17.rc1.el6_4.4  www.google.com @localhost
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 48006
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.google.com.    IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.google.com. 174 IN  A   173.194.35.176
www.google.com. 174 IN  A   173.194.35.180
www.google.com. 174 IN  A   173.194.35.177
www.google.com. 174 IN  A   173.194.35.179
www.google.com. 174 IN  A   173.194.35.178

;; Query time: 2 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 25 23:51:28 2013
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 112


real    0m1.026s
user    0m0.011s
sys 0m0.014s
# time dig www.google.com @localhost

;  DiG 9.8.2rc1-RedHat-9.8.2-0.17.rc1.el6_4.4  www.google.com @localhost
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 3613
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.google.com.    IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.google.com. 84  IN  A   173.194.35.176
www.google.com. 84  IN  A   173.194.35.180
www.google.com. 84  IN  A   173.194.35.177
www.google.com. 84  IN  A   173.194.35.179
www.google.com. 84  IN  A   173.194.35.178

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 25 23:52:58 2013
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 112


real    0m1.024s
user    0m0.005s
sys 0m0.019s
# /etc/init.d/pdns-recursor stop
pdns-recursor beenden: [  OK  ]
# /etc/init.d/dnsmasq start
Starting dnsmasq:  [  OK  ]
# time dig www.google.com @localhost

;  DiG 9.8.2rc1-RedHat-9.8.2-0.17.rc1.el6_4.4  www.google.com @localhost
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6269
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.google.com.    IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.google.com. 67  IN  A   173.194.35.178
www.google.com. 67  IN  A   173.194.35.179
www.google.com. 67  IN  A   173.194.35.180
www.google.com. 67  IN  A   173.194.35.176
www.google.com. 67  IN  A   173.194.35.177

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
google.com. 54608   IN  NS  ns1.google.com.
google.com. 54608   IN  NS  ns3.google.com.
google.com. 54608   IN  NS  ns2.google.com.
google.com. 54608   IN  NS  ns4.google.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.google.com. 54882   IN  A   216.239.32.10
ns2.google.com. 54882   IN  A   216.239.34.10
ns3.google.com. 54882   IN  A   216.239.36.10
ns4.google.com. 54882   IN  A   216.239.38.10

;; Query time: 2 msec
;; SERVER: ::1#53(::1)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 25 23:53:15 2013
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 248


real    0m0.028s
user    0m0.008s
sys 0m0.019s
# time dig www.google.com @localhost

;  DiG 9.8.2rc1-RedHat-9.8.2-0.17.rc1.el6_4.4  www.google.com @localhost
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 28137
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.google.com.    IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.google.com. 65  IN  A   173.194.35.177
www.google.com. 65  IN  A   

Re: [Pdns-users] 1 sec delay before DNS-answer at pdns-recursor

2013-06-25 Thread Michael Loftis
On Tuesday, June 25, 2013, Shamus Smith wrote:

 Hello all,

 thanks for all your answers, but I'm still stuck. Below is the full output
 for dig for pdns and dnsmasq.
 The query time is 2 ms for the first uncached request and 0 ms for pdns
 and dnsmasq. However, the
 whole execution of the dig command takes over 1 second for pdns and below
 30 ms for dnsmasq. The
 same for nslookup.

 For the second request trace just shows: 1 question answered from packet
 cache from 127.0.0.1
 But it still takes more than 1 second.

 - /etc/pdns-recursor/recursor.conf (default-config from package plus own
 forward-zone, removed comments)
 forward-zones=.=8.8.8.8
 setgid=pdns-recursor
 setuid=pdns-recursor

 - /etc/dnsmasq.conf (default-config from package, removed comments)
 bogus-priv
 cache-size=1500
 domain-needed
 no-hosts

 - /etc/hosts
 127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4
 localhost4.localdomain4
 ::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6
 localhost6.localdomain6

 /etc/nsswitch.conf was not modified and there is absolutely no load on the
 machine.
 I do not have a LDAP user database, this is just a minimum install of
 CentOS 6.5.

 Any ideas?



Someone else mentioned use  forward-zones-recurse instead. Try that.
There's obviously an issue between your OS resolver and pdns-recursor. That
well be the cause.




 Thanks,
 Shamus






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Re: [Pdns-users] 1 sec delay before DNS-answer at pdns-recursor

2013-06-24 Thread Peter van Dijk
Hello Shamus,

On Jun 22, 2013, at 1:39 , Shamus Smith wrote:
 However, a lookup always needs more than 1 second (query-time is 2 ms).:
 # time dig +short www.google.com @localhost
 173.194.40.80
 173.194.40.83
 173.194.40.84
 173.194.40.81
 173.194.40.82
 
 real0m1.023s
 user0m0.007s
 sys 0m0.017s

A tip (other posts in this thread have already proven it relevant): when 
measuring response time of a DNS server, do not use +short - so dig can tell 
you the actual response time.

Kind regards,
-- 
Peter van Dijk
Netherlabs Computer Consulting BV - http://www.netherlabs.nl/


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Re: [Pdns-users] 1 sec delay before DNS-answer at pdns-recursor

2013-06-23 Thread Shamus Smith
Hello Bert,


  Any ideas why it takes so long?
 
 Rerun with --trace enabled and check what is happening. With some study, it 
 should be clear what it is waiting for.

did that already before, but still did not found anything helpful there. Below 
is a new trace.
btw, I am using 3.5.1 (package pdns-recursor-3.5.1-1.el6.x86_64).

Thanks,
 Shamus

- /etc/init.d/pdns-recursor start
Jun 23 12:30:12 server
 pdns_recursor[11064]: PowerDNS recursor 3.5.1 (C) 2001-2013 PowerDNS.COM BV 
(May  3 2013, 20:04:33, gcc 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-3)) starting up
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: PowerDNS comes with ABSOLUTELY NO 
WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it 
according to the terms of the GPL version 2.
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Operating in 64 bits mode
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Reading random entropy from 
'/dev/urandom'
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Only allowing queries from: 
127.0.0.0/8, 10.0.0.0/8, 100.64.0.0/10, 169.254.0.0/16, 192.168.0.0/16, 
172.16.0.0/12, ::1/128, fe80::/10
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Will not send queries to: 
127.0.0.0/8, 10.0.0.0/8, 100.64.0.0/10, 169.254.0.0/16, 192.168.0.0/16, 
172.16.0.0/12, ::1/128, fe80::/10, 0.0.0.0, ::
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: NOT using IPv6 for
 outgoing queries - set 'query-local-address6=::' to enable
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Redirecting queries for zone '.' 
to: 8.8.8.8:53
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Inserting rfc 1918 private space 
zones
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Not decreasing socket buffer size 
from 229376 to 20
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Listening for UDP queries on 
127.0.0.1:53
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Enabled TCP data-ready filter for 
(slight) DoS protection
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Listening for TCP queries on 
127.0.0.1:53
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Calling daemonize, going to 
background
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Set effective group id to 497
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Set effective user id to 497
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Launching 2 threads
Jun 23 12:30:12 server
 pdns_recursor[11065]: Done priming cache with root hints
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Done priming cache with root hints
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Enabled 'epoll' multiplexer
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: No cache hit for '.|NS', trying 
to find an appropriate NS record
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: No cache hit for '.|NS', trying 
to find an appropriate NS record
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Cache consultations done, have 
1 NS to contact
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Cache consultations done, have 
1 NS to contact
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Nameservers: -8.8.8.8:53(0.00ms)
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Trying to resolve NS 
'-8.8.8.8:53' (1/1)
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Domain has hardcoded 
nameserver(s)
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Resolved
 '.' NS -8.8.8.8:53 to: 8.8.8.8
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Nameservers: -8.8.8.8:53(0.00ms)
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Trying to resolve NS 
'-8.8.8.8:53' (1/1)
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Domain has hardcoded 
nameserver(s)
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Resolved '.' NS -8.8.8.8:53 to: 
8.8.8.8
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Trying IP 8.8.8.8:53, asking 
'.|NS'
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Trying IP 8.8.8.8:53, asking 
'.|NS'
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Got 13 answers from -8.8.8.8:53 
(8.8.8.8), rcode=0, aa=0, in 6ms
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: accept answer 
'.|NS|d.root-servers.net.' from '.' nameservers? YES!
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: accept answer 
'.|NS|l.root-servers.net.' from '.' nameservers? YES!
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .:
 accept answer '.|NS|c.root-servers.net.' from '.' nameservers? YES!
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: accept answer 
'.|NS|g.root-servers.net.' from '.' nameservers? YES!
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: accept answer 
'.|NS|h.root-servers.net.' from '.' nameservers? YES!
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: accept answer 
'.|NS|b.root-servers.net.' from '.' nameservers? YES!
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Got 13 answers from -8.8.8.8:53 
(8.8.8.8), rcode=0, aa=0, in 6ms
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: accept answer 
'.|NS|d.root-servers.net.' from '.' nameservers? YES!
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: accept answer 
'.|NS|l.root-servers.net.' from '.' nameservers? YES!
Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: 

Re: [Pdns-users] 1 sec delay before DNS-answer at pdns-recursor

2013-06-23 Thread Michael Loftis
What about giving the full dig output too?  My bet is you're actually
experiencing some sort of huge delay starting up dig or resolving
localhost, use @127.0.0.1 instead and see if the time goes away.
Does your /etc/hosts contain 'localhost'?  Have you modified your
nsswitch.conf? (Assuming standard *nix like system)

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Shamus Smith smithsha...@yahoo.de wrote:
 Hello Bert,

  Any ideas why it takes so long?

 Rerun with --trace enabled and check what is happening. With some study,
 it should be clear what it is waiting for.

 did that already before, but still did not found anything helpful there.
 Below is a new trace.
 btw, I am using 3.5.1 (package pdns-recursor-3.5.1-1.el6.x86_64).

 Thanks,
  Shamus

 - /etc/init.d/pdns-recursor start
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: PowerDNS recursor 3.5.1 (C)
 2001-2013 PowerDNS.COM BV (May  3 2013, 20:04:33, gcc 4.4.7 20120313 (Red
 Hat 4.4.7-3)) starting up
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: PowerDNS comes with ABSOLUTELY
 NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
 according to the terms of the GPL version 2.
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Operating in 64 bits mode
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Reading random entropy from
 '/dev/urandom'
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Only allowing queries from:
 127.0.0.0/8, 10.0.0.0/8, 100.64.0.0/10, 169.254.0.0/16, 192.168.0.0/16,
 172.16.0.0/12, ::1/128, fe80::/10
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Will not send queries to:
 127.0.0.0/8, 10.0.0.0/8, 100.64.0.0/10, 169.254.0.0/16, 192.168.0.0/16,
 172.16.0.0/12, ::1/128, fe80::/10, 0.0.0.0, ::
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: NOT using IPv6 for outgoing
 queries - set 'query-local-address6=::' to enable
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Redirecting queries for zone
 '.' to: 8.8.8.8:53
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Inserting rfc 1918 private
 space zones
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Not decreasing socket buffer
 size from 229376 to 20
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Listening for UDP queries on
 127.0.0.1:53
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Enabled TCP data-ready filter
 for (slight) DoS protection
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Listening for TCP queries on
 127.0.0.1:53
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Calling daemonize, going to
 background
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Set effective group id to 497
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Set effective user id to 497
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Launching 2 threads
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Done priming cache with root
 hints
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Done priming cache with root
 hints
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Enabled 'epoll' multiplexer
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: No cache hit for '.|NS',
 trying to find an appropriate NS record
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: No cache hit for '.|NS',
 trying to find an appropriate NS record
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Cache consultations done,
 have 1 NS to contact
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Cache consultations done,
 have 1 NS to contact
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Nameservers:
 -8.8.8.8:53(0.00ms)
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Trying to resolve NS
 '-8.8.8.8:53' (1/1)
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Domain has hardcoded
 nameserver(s)
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Resolved '.' NS -8.8.8.8:53
 to: 8.8.8.8
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Nameservers:
 -8.8.8.8:53(0.00ms)
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Trying to resolve NS
 '-8.8.8.8:53' (1/1)
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Domain has hardcoded
 nameserver(s)
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Resolved '.' NS -8.8.8.8:53
 to: 8.8.8.8
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Trying IP 8.8.8.8:53, asking
 '.|NS'
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Trying IP 8.8.8.8:53, asking
 '.|NS'
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Got 13 answers from
 -8.8.8.8:53 (8.8.8.8), rcode=0, aa=0, in 6ms
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: accept answer
 '.|NS|d.root-servers.net.' from '.' nameservers? YES!
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: accept answer
 '.|NS|l.root-servers.net.' from '.' nameservers? YES!
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: accept answer
 '.|NS|c.root-servers.net.' from '.' nameservers? YES!
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: accept answer
 '.|NS|g.root-servers.net.' from '.' nameservers? YES!
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: accept answer
 '.|NS|h.root-servers.net.' from '.' nameservers? YES!
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: accept answer
 

Re: [Pdns-users] 1 sec delay before DNS-answer at pdns-recursor

2013-06-23 Thread Shamus Smith
Thanks for your answer. The full dig output was in the first posting.
I have not modified nsswitch.conf and /etc/hosts contains only this:

127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 localhost4.localdomain4
::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6 localhost6.localdomain6

And you were right! When using dig www.google.com @127.0.0.1 it takes just
0.021 seconds. But I still do not have a clue why, do you?

When using another recursor (Dnsmasq) there is no time difference when using
@localhost or @127.0.0.1.

Thanks,
Shamus




 Von: Michael Loftis mlof...@wgops.com
An: Shamus Smith smithsha...@yahoo.de 
CC: bert hubert bert.hub...@netherlabs.nl; pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com 
pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com 
Gesendet: 18:44 Sonntag, 23.Juni 2013
Betreff: Re: [Pdns-users] 1 sec delay before DNS-answer at pdns-recursor
 

What about giving the full dig output too?  My bet is you're actually
experiencing some sort of huge delay starting up dig or resolving
localhost, use @127.0.0.1 instead and see if the time goes away.
Does your /etc/hosts contain 'localhost'?  Have you modified your
nsswitch.conf? (Assuming standard *nix like system)

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Shamus Smith smithsha...@yahoo.de wrote:
 Hello Bert,

  Any ideas why it takes so long?

 Rerun with --trace enabled and check what is happening. With some study,
 it should be clear what it is waiting for.

 did that already before, but still did not found anything helpful there.
 Below is a new trace.
 btw, I am using 3.5.1 (package pdns-recursor-3.5.1-1.el6.x86_64).

 Thanks,
  Shamus

 - /etc/init.d/pdns-recursor start
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: PowerDNS recursor 3.5.1 (C)
 2001-2013 PowerDNS.COM BV (May  3 2013, 20:04:33, gcc 4.4.7 20120313 (Red
 Hat 4.4.7-3)) starting up
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: PowerDNS comes with ABSOLUTELY
 NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
 according to the terms of the GPL version 2.
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Operating in 64 bits mode
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Reading random entropy from
 '/dev/urandom'
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Only allowing queries from:
 127.0.0.0/8, 10.0.0.0/8, 100.64.0.0/10, 169.254.0.0/16, 192.168.0.0/16,
 172.16.0.0/12, ::1/128, fe80::/10
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Will not send queries to:
 127.0.0.0/8, 10.0.0.0/8, 100.64.0.0/10, 169.254.0.0/16, 192.168.0.0/16,
 172.16.0.0/12, ::1/128, fe80::/10, 0.0.0.0, ::
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: NOT using IPv6 for outgoing
 queries - set 'query-local-address6=::' to enable
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Redirecting queries for zone
 '.' to: 8.8.8.8:53
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Inserting rfc 1918 private
 space zones
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Not decreasing socket buffer
 size from 229376 to 20
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Listening for UDP queries on
 127.0.0.1:53
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Enabled TCP data-ready filter
 for (slight) DoS protection
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Listening for TCP queries on
 127.0.0.1:53
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Calling daemonize, going to
 background
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Set effective group id to 497
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Set effective user id to 497
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Launching 2 threads
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Done priming cache with root
 hints
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Done priming cache with root
 hints
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Enabled 'epoll' multiplexer
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: No cache hit for '.|NS',
 trying to find an appropriate NS record
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: No cache hit for '.|NS',
 trying to find an appropriate NS record
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Cache consultations done,
 have 1 NS to contact
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Cache consultations done,
 have 1 NS to contact
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Nameservers:
 -8.8.8.8:53(0.00ms)
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Trying to resolve NS
 '-8.8.8.8:53' (1/1)
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Domain has hardcoded
 nameserver(s)
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Resolved '.' NS -8.8.8.8:53
 to: 8.8.8.8
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Nameservers:
 -8.8.8.8:53(0.00ms)
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Trying to resolve NS
 '-8.8.8.8:53' (1/1)
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Domain has hardcoded
 nameserver(s)
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Resolved '.' NS -8.8.8.8:53
 to: 8.8.8.8
 Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: .: Trying IP

Re: [Pdns-users] 1 sec delay before DNS-answer at pdns-recursor

2013-06-23 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hi,

what does your recursor.conf look like? I'm only guessing here but as you
are obviously forwarding all queries to 8.8.8.8 there is one thing that
people tend to get the wrong idea about which is using forward-zones instead
of forward-zones-recurse which does not set the Recursion Desired (RD) bit
when forwarding the queries as it is meant to be pointed against
authoritative Nameservers instead of recursive ones. Not exactly sure how
that would explain a 1s delay though.

 Stefan
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Re: [Pdns-users] 1 sec delay before DNS-answer at pdns-recursor

2013-06-23 Thread Michael Loftis
On Sunday, June 23, 2013, Shamus Smith wrote:

 Thanks for your answer. The full dig output was in the first posting.
 I have not modified nsswitch.conf and /etc/hosts contains only this:


No, only the +short is in any of your responses, when I say full output I
mean without +short - there's a hint of timing information in the full dig
output.  We have teh time it took for the entire command to execute but we
don't have the actual RTT of the DNS query.  It'll indicate the query time,
as well as whom it sent the query too IE what @localhost was resolved to
prior to dig starting it's own query - which I think it uses gethostent or
one of the other get* calls.




 127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4
 localhost4.localdomain4
 ::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6
 localhost6.localdomain6

 And you were right! When using dig www.google.com @127.0.0.1 it takes
 just
 0.021 seconds. But I still do not have a clue why, do you?


My *guess* or hunch is that your internal OS stack gethostent, getaddrinfo,
etc, is failing/falling over somehow or in some form.  It shouldn't be
talking to anything in resolv.conf but if it is  then the later response
about correctly having the RD bit set or not because of the configuration
could explain the different behavior with dnsmasq.  Normally it should be
consulting your local files first, finding an answer, and immediately
returning.  But if there's something funny going on it might not be.  Other
issues can occur if you have LDAP user databases/etc, or even if you've got
some heavy swapping/paging going on it'll take a while to start up any
command that isn't already fully in cache/RAM.  All that is why I asked for
the timing information from dig, which it runs *after* any of that could
get into the way.



 When using another recursor (Dnsmasq) there is no time difference when
 using
 @localhost or @127.0.0.1.

 Thanks,
 Shamus

I don't think anything other than /etc/hosts should get involved but your
stall pretty clearly appears to be happening during the resolution of the
@localhost and not the round trip to the world and through the pdns
recursor.




 What about giving the full dig output too?  My bet is you're actually
 experiencing some sort of huge delay starting up dig or resolving
 localhost, use @127.0.0.1 instead and see if the time goes away.
 Does your /etc/hosts contain 'localhost'?  Have you modified your
 nsswitch.conf? (Assuming standard *nix like system)

 On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Shamus Smith smithsha...@yahoo.de
 wrote:
  Hello Bert,
 
   Any ideas why it takes so long?
 
  Rerun with --trace enabled and check what is happening. With some study,
  it should be clear what it is waiting for.
 
  did that already before, but still did not found anything helpful there.
  Below is a new trace.
  btw, I am using 3.5.1 (package pdns-recursor-3.5.1-1.el6.x86_64).
 
  Thanks,
   Shamus
 
  - /etc/init.d/pdns-recursor start
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: PowerDNS recursor 3.5.1 (C)
  2001-2013 PowerDNS.COM BV (May  3 2013, 20:04:33, gcc 4.4.7 20120313 (Red
  Hat 4.4.7-3)) starting up
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: PowerDNS comes with
 ABSOLUTELY
  NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute
 it
  according to the terms of the GPL version 2.
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Operating in 64 bits mode
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Reading random entropy from
  '/dev/urandom'
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Only allowing queries from:
  127.0.0.0/8, 10.0.0.0/8, 100.64.0.0/10, 169.254.0.0/16, 192.168.0.0/16,
  172.16.0.0/12, ::1/128, fe80::/10
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Will not send queries to:
  127.0.0.0/8, 10.0.0.0/8, 100.64.0.0/10, 169.254.0.0/16, 192.168.0.0/16,
  172.16.0.0/12, ::1/128, fe80::/10, 0.0.0.0, ::
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: NOT using IPv6 for outgoing
  queries - set 'query-local-address6=::' to enable
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Redirecting queries for zone
  '.' to: 8.8.8.8:53
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Inserting rfc 1918 private
  space zones
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Not decreasing socket buffer
  size from 229376 to 20
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Listening for UDP queries on
  127.0.0.1:53
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Enabled TCP data-ready
 filter
  for (slight) DoS protection
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Listening for TCP queries on
  127.0.0.1:53
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11064]: Calling daemonize, going to
  background
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Set effective group id to
 497
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Set effective user id to 497
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Launching 2 threads
  Jun 23 12:30:12 server pdns_recursor[11065]: Done priming cache with root
  hints
  Jun 

Re: [Pdns-users] 1 sec delay before DNS-answer at pdns-recursor

2013-06-23 Thread Michael Loftis
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Michael Loftis mlof...@wgops.com wrote:



 I don't think anything other than /etc/hosts should get involved but your
 stall pretty clearly appears to be happening during the resolution of the
 @localhost and not the round trip to the world and through the pdns
 recursor.

Which is to say I don't think that pdns-recursor is at fault for your
slow dig resolution time...your OS stack I believe is failing
elsewhere.


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into trouble of all kinds.
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Re: [Pdns-users] 1 sec delay before DNS-answer at pdns-recursor

2013-06-22 Thread bert hubert

On Jun 22, 2013, at 1:39 AM, Shamus Smith wrote:

 Any ideas why it takes so long?

Rerun with --trace enabled and check what is happening. With some study, it 
should be clear what it is waiting for.

   Bert


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[Pdns-users] 1 sec delay before DNS-answer at pdns-recursor

2013-06-21 Thread Shamus Smith
Hello all,

I installed pdns-recursor on my CentOS 6.4 machine with a simple config:

 forward-zones=.=ISP-DNS-Server
 setgid=pdns-recursor
 setuid=pdns-recursor


However, a lookup always needs more than 1 second (query-time is 2 ms).:

# time dig +short www.google.com @localhost
173.194.40.80
173.194.40.83
173.194.40.84
173.194.40.81
173.194.40.82

real    0m1.023s
user    0m0.007s
sys 0m0.017s


Any ideas why it takes so long?


Thanks,
Shamus
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