Re: Fw: [Pdns-users] Re: How Do SPF records work in PDNS? ( begionner)
Richard Vernooij wrote: Received: from dedicated ([127.0.0.1]) by dedicated.domain.com with Reporting-MTA: dns;[EMAIL PROTECTED] Received-From-MTA: dns;dedicated The problem seems like it's MTA related... -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://e164.org - Because e164.arpa is a tax on VoIP In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip. ___ Pdns-users mailing list Pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com http://mailman.powerdns.com/mailman/listinfo/pdns-users
RE: [Pdns-users] Re: How Do SPF records work in PDNS? ( begionner)
Make sure your server has a host name. And make sure it is set up correctly. If your DNS name is mail.gateshosting.com, make sure your server name is mail, and your suffix is gateshosting.com for a full name of mail.gateshosting.com. Also just make sure you HAVE a dns record for that ip, and a rDns record for that ip. Here is a tool I use to check my mail server: www.dnsreport.com - Just check your domain name, like gateshosting.com and it will actually let you know if you have any errors in DNS. Also, I see in one of the headers, the ip address is 127.0.0.1. You probably should have a public ip address. Otherwise some servers will deny your connection. Hope this helps, Michael C. Gates -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Vernooij Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 3:33 AM To: pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com Subject: Fw: [Pdns-users] Re: How Do SPF records work in PDNS? ( begionner) Ok. For me it is clear that my problem has to do with reverse DNS, and not with SPF. Can someone tell me how to setup right configuration for Reverse DNS for the example i gave? Here is also an emailheader from a mail that is bounced: Received: from dedicated ([127.0.0.1]) by dedicated.domain.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 18 Nov 2006 09:55:21 +0100 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 09:55:21 +0100 Subject: Order 12564 From: Companyname [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kevin Chin [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: osCommerce Mailer Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_0546849bb7db32079db89f7fa0271de5 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2006 08:55:21.0578 (UTC) FILETIME=[4776D4A0:01C70AEF] The message i receive back: Reporting-MTA: dns;[EMAIL PROTECTED] Received-From-MTA: dns;dedicated Arrival-Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 09:55:21 +0100 Final-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.5.0 Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 Spam refused: is a silly name for a mail server or server has no name. I also get many messages with other error codes: Action: failed Status: 5.4.0 ( most often message ) Action: failed Status: 4.4.7 I hope someone can tell me what to do with my DNS settings here, or if it is not my DNS, please tell me where to look. Thanks. Richard. - Forwarded Message From: Alex van den Bogaerdt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:40:37 PM Subject: Re: [Pdns-users] Re: How Do SPF records work in PDNS? ( begionner) On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 12:49:44PM -0700, Michael Loftis wrote: Now if you *have* an SPF record (which again is *NOT* a type of DNS record at all, it's a TXT record) Please be aware that there is an official SPF resource record. http://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-parameters But do publish TXT records for your SPF rules as well. The RR is brand new and isn't used that much yet. Eventually only the SPF resource record is going to be used. This will take time. Let's not discuss SPF here. If you want to know why it is the user's fault and not the SPF record's fault, let's meet on the spf-discuss mailing list. Alex ___ Pdns-users mailing list Pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com http://mailman.powerdns.com/mailman/listinfo/pdns-users _ Everyone is raving about the http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42297/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailb eta all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. ___ Pdns-users mailing list Pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com http://mailman.powerdns.com/mailman/listinfo/pdns-users
[Pdns-users] Re: How Do SPF records work in PDNS? ( begionner)
Richard Vernooij wrote: I seem to have a problem that many messages from a webserver, or emailserver do not arrive on certain places. Now i found that it could be the reason, that i do not have SPF records for reverse DNS. SPF has _nothing_ to do with reverse DNS. Now when i check http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=domainname.com (after a day with the real domain) I still have a warning about not having a spf record. Well, then your domain does not have an SPF record. Did you add a record of type SPF to your domain's zone? pgpC72R90zJ6Y.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Pdns-users mailing list Pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com http://mailman.powerdns.com/mailman/listinfo/pdns-users
Re: [Pdns-users] Re: How Do SPF records work in PDNS? ( begionner)
I thought PRT record is the same? or do i misundertand. Can you please explain the difference? and what must i do in my case? In my case several people do not get any mail, because there spamfilter blocks mail from our domains on our servers, due to Reverse or SPF settings . This is all i can understand, form the error messages. In my Power admin is no such thing as a SPF TYPE. only PRT / TXT etc.. I hope it is clear enough for you guys? Please let me know. thanks, Richard. Richard Vernooij wrote: I seem to have a problem that many messages from a webserver, or emailserver do not arrive on certain places. Now i found that it could be the reason, that i do not have SPF records for reverse DNS. SPF has _nothing_ to do with reverse DNS. Now when i check http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=domainname.com (after a day with the real domain) I still have a warning about not having a spf record. Well, then your domain does not have an SPF record. Did you add a record of type SPF to your domain's zone? ___ Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310k for $999/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre___ Pdns-users mailing list Pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com http://mailman.powerdns.com/mailman/listinfo/pdns-users
Re: [Pdns-users] Re: How Do SPF records work in PDNS? ( begionner)
--On November 18, 2006 11:27:26 AM -0800 Richard Vernooij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought PRT record is the same? or do i misundertand. Can you please explain the difference? and what must i do in my case? I am going to assume you mean PTR record. PTR's really only occur in .in-addr.arpa zones. They are for reverse DNS which is not SPF. Many sites do require *VALID* reverse DNS nowadays though, which is very different from SPF (which I'll get to in a moment). A *VALID* rDNS consists of a PTR in your providers .in-addr.arpa zone, as well as a matching A record that it points to (PTR means PoinTeR). SPF is simply a specially formatted TXT record associated with the sending domain which states which A, MX, or IP's can send mail on behalf of that domain. If you've got people denying mail because of no SPF record well you don't want to send mail to them anyway. SPF is seriously broken in the face of *many* everyday applications, including mailing lists, and remote dialup users. Now if you *have* an SPF record (which again is *NOT* a type of DNS record at all, it's a TXT record) and that SPF record is *wrong* I can see some net.kook's denying mail based on that. In my case several people do not get any mail, because there spamfilter blocks mail from our domains on our servers, due to Reverse or SPF settings . This is all i can understand, form the error messages. In my Power admin is no such thing as a SPF TYPE. only PRT / TXT etc.. I hope it is clear enough for you guys? Please let me know. thanks, Richard. Richard Vernooij wrote: I seem to have a problem that many messages from a webserver, or emailserver do not arrive on certain places. Now i found that it could be the reason, that i do not have SPF records for reverse DNS. SPF has _nothing_ to do with reverse DNS. Now when i check http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=domainname.com (after a day with the real domain) I still have a warning about not having a spf record. Well, then your domain does not have an SPF record. Did you add a record of type SPF to your domain's zone? ___ __ Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new house payment -- Genius might be described as a supreme capacity for getting its possessors into trouble of all kinds. -- Samuel Butler ___ Pdns-users mailing list Pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com http://mailman.powerdns.com/mailman/listinfo/pdns-users
[Pdns-users] Re: How Do SPF records work in PDNS? ( begionner)
Michael Loftis wrote: SPF is simply a specially formatted TXT record associated with the sending domain which states which A, MX, or IP's can send mail on behalf of that domain. If you've got people denying mail because of no SPF record well you don't want to send mail to them anyway. SPF is seriously broken in the face of *many* everyday applications, including mailing lists, and remote dialup users. I don't want to make this into a discussion about the merits of SPF, however, what you say isn't true. SPF has no problems whatsoever with 95% of all mailing lists. The problem that SPF has is with alias-style forwarding (where the forwarder simply forwards the mail with the MAIL FROM identity unchanged). Almost all mailing lists do rewrite the MAIL FROM when distributing messages, so there isn't any problem. About remote dial-up users, I assume you are complaining that they can no longer use SPF-protected domains for sending mail directly from their dial-up connections. All I can say to that is, well, that this is exactly the point of SPF. SPF gives owner controls over who can use their domains in e-mail. Complain to them, not to SPF. Don't shoot the messenger. To learn more about SPF and correct their misconceptions, I recommend that people actually read the SPF website[1] instead of propagating myths. Now if you *have* an SPF record (which again is *NOT* a type of DNS record at all, it's a TXT record) and that SPF record is *wrong* I can see some net.kook's denying mail based on that. Right. Whatever. References: 1. http://new.openspf.org pgpkYbs1qZDPf.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Pdns-users mailing list Pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com http://mailman.powerdns.com/mailman/listinfo/pdns-users
Re: [Pdns-users] Re: How Do SPF records work in PDNS? ( begionner)
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 12:49:44PM -0700, Michael Loftis wrote: Now if you *have* an SPF record (which again is *NOT* a type of DNS record at all, it's a TXT record) Please be aware that there is an official SPF resource record. http://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-parameters But do publish TXT records for your SPF rules as well. The RR is brand new and isn't used that much yet. Eventually only the SPF resource record is going to be used. This will take time. Let's not discuss SPF here. If you want to know why it is the user's fault and not the SPF record's fault, let's meet on the spf-discuss mailing list. Alex ___ Pdns-users mailing list Pdns-users@mailman.powerdns.com http://mailman.powerdns.com/mailman/listinfo/pdns-users
