RE: [PEIRCE-L] The categorial "mirror image" of 'determination' and 'representation'.

2015-12-31 Thread gnox
Gary R, Reverting to a post you made over a month ago … I had written something about genuine triadic relations, such as are embodied in the processes of representing and determining — which in my opinion are both genuine, partly because they are mirror images of each other. By that I meant

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The categorial "mirror image" of 'determination' and 'representation'.

2015-12-31 Thread Gary Richmond
Gary F. list, As I just wrote in the other thread we've been dialoguing in, I don't really see at the moment any way to make headway in this matter of the vectors. The kind of example which Parmentier and I offer aren't convincing to you, while you counter with alternatives which I simply don't

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: signs, correlates, and triadic relations

2015-12-31 Thread Gary Richmond
Gary F, list, As I said, I'll leave you the last (substantive) word in these two matters in this thread. So, as your last word included questions, I'd suggest that we move the discussion off-list. We seem to be talking past each other and, again, that may be (1) because our purposes are different

[PEIRCE-L] Aw: Re: Relations & Their Relatives

2015-12-31 Thread Helmut Raulien
Jon, List, is it true, that, other than in dyadic relations, in triadic relations there are much more than one kind of symmetry? if the sets are X, Y, Z, and variables of elements of either sets are x, y, z with x E X, y E Y, z E Z: three kinds of dyadic symmetry or linear symmetry: -(x,y)

RE: [PEIRCE-L] The categorial "mirror image" of 'determination' and 'representation'.

2015-12-31 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Hello Gary R., List, Let me point to a place where Peirce explicitly discusses the kinds of questions that are behind the point I'm trying to make about the priority of graph theoretic conceptions and figures for analyzing these sorts of relations. Here are two excerpts from a long footnote

RE: [PEIRCE-L] The categorial "mirror image" of 'determination' and 'representation'.

2015-12-31 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Hello Gary R., List, Would anything be lost if we substituted the language "directed graphs" for "categorial vectors"? One reason I ask is that Peirce spent a fair amount of time and effort sorting through and responding to A.B. Kempe's various works on mathematical form. One of the