RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Six categorial vectors; three categorial mirrors, was, The categorial "mirror image" of 'determination' and 'representation'.

2016-01-26 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Gary R., Jerry, List, Let us apply the claim that hypothesis "is the formula of the acquirement of secondary sensation--a process by which a confused concatenation of predicates is brought into order under a synthetizing predicate" to the analysis of hypothesis. (CP 2.712) Notice what he

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Six categorial vectors; three categorial mirrors, was, The categorial "mirror image" of 'determination' and 'representation'.

2016-01-26 Thread Jerry Rhee
Jeffrey, haha!! :) I stand corrected! That was great, J On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Jeffrey Brian Downard < jeffrey.down...@nau.edu> wrote: > Jerry, Gary R., List, > > You say: "Relating it to the current query, where is feeling and > sensation in beans and bags? There is no genuine

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Six categorial vectors; three categorial mirrors, was, The categorial "mirror image" of 'determination' and 'representation'.

2016-01-26 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Jerry, Gary R., List, You say: "Relating it to the current query, where is feeling and sensation in beans and bags? There is no genuine doubt there." Well, I grew up on a farm that had a big old white barn down in the field constructed from hand-hewn wooden beams with enormous lofts for hay.

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Six categorial vectors; three categorial mirrors, was, The categorial "mirror image" of 'determination' and 'representation'.

2016-01-26 Thread Jerry Rhee
Gary, Jeffrey and list: I had no intention of upsetting anyone but I wanted to raise some issues. Gary, you said: (Thirdness, Firstness, Secondness… three, one, two…) |> (3ns), *Rule*, These beans are white, (1ns), Result, *All the beans from this bag are white*; (2ns),

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Six categorial vectors; three categorial mirrors, was, The categorial "mirror image" of 'determination' and 'representation'.

2016-01-26 Thread Gary Richmond
Jerry, List, You concluded your first response (before the second brief message as addendum) by writing: JR: My main query is why I should accept your explanation and not theirs. This is why I think the bean example is so bad as to be malicious. A novice doesn’t see a difference between one

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Six categorial vectors; three categorial mirrors, was, The categorial "mirror image" of 'determination' and 'representation'.

2016-01-26 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Jerry, Gary F., List, As you note, Jerry, Doug Anderson is simply quoting from what Peirce says in the the section on Deduction, Induction and Hypothesis: "This sort of inference is called making an hypothesis. It is the inference of a case from a rule and a result." (CP 2.623) Do you see

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Six categorial vectors and the logic of ingenuity

2016-01-26 Thread Benjamin Udell
Gary R., Jon S., list, Thanks for the Wikipedia article remarks and the Tetrast link. I should add that I did not make the edits that have appeared in the last few years in the Wikipedia article on Peirce (or anywhere else on Wikipedia for that matter, except for updating a link or two

SV: [PEIRCE-L] Thirdness, coupling and merging

2016-01-26 Thread Frederik Stjernfelt
Dear John, list - I perfectly agree there are two quite different question here - the ideal, conceptual question of the synthesis of e.g. subject and predicate in propositions - and the actual, empirical question of how brains perform that synthesis. Both of them are crucially important

[PEIRCE-L] Fw: John Dewey Annual Meeting Program

2016-01-26 Thread Gary Richmond
List, The tentative program for the John Dewey Society's Centennial Celebration of *Democracy & Education* in Washington, DC this April has just been announced. While I'm a member of the Society and am planning to attend the events, one isn't required to join the organization to attend the

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Six categorial vectors; three categorial mirrors, was, The categorial "mirror image" of 'determination' and 'representation'.

2016-01-26 Thread Jerry Rhee
Hi Gary, Ben and List, I appreciate the idea of trikonic and have read about the bean example, which I dislike. Some authors flip Rule/Result/Case and Result/Rule/Case for abduction. Are they isomorphic? If I said they’re asymmetric, that it ought to be Result/Rule/Case and not the other,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Six categorial vectors; three categorial mirrors, was, The categorial "mirror image" of 'determination' and 'representation'.

2016-01-26 Thread Gary Richmond
Jerry, list, One approach which might help in understanding the bean example as I believe Peirce imagined it is to think 'character' or 'quality' rather than 'result' since, as I've argued somewhere, 'result' literally really works only for deduction. *Deduction*: 3rd (1ns) *result*: all these

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Six categorial vectors; three categorial mirrors, was, The categorial "mirror image" of 'determination' and 'representation'.

2016-01-26 Thread Jerry Rhee
Hi Gary, I'm not sure what you're saying exactly but in Anderson’s Evolution of Peirce’s Concept of Abduction (p.148), he states: Rule - All the beans from this bag are white. Result - These beans are white. .'. Case – These beans are from this bag. (2.623) This is also repeated in

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Six categorial vectors; three categorial mirrors, was, The categorial "mirror image" of 'determination' and 'representation'.

2016-01-26 Thread Jerry Rhee
btw, in your response, would you mind commenting on whether 1ns, 2ns, 3ns follows Result (1ns), Rule (2ns), Case (3ns), please? I think the above is correct and that the following is wrong: Rule (1ns), Result (2ns), Case (3ns). I also want to be clear about avoiding semantic conflations. I