Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

Stefan, the questions you ask for data and methodology are natural and understandable in terms of Peirce's abiding guidance on the scientific method and fallibility. Edwina, the evidence you offer is the best available given our current state of

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

Edwina, oh, this is a Peirce list, that's interesting, isn't it? What kind of red hering is this? You keep writing this stuff on this list for years over and over again. Now, when someone asks you for some evidence of your "theory" you say you can't provide it because this is a Peirce list?

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

On 11/19/2016 6:14 PM, Edwina Taborsky wrote: I don't think that democracy 'is human destiny', and I don't believe that we are moving 'in the direction of goodness'. I agree. Just look at history. Greece and Rome had democracies. But both of those democracies were toppled by tyrants (AKA

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

Stefan - I can't deal with your questions on this list, as it is a site devoted to Peirce - and Peirce has nothing to do with ecological analysis of societal adaptation. i may deal with it off-list - but your questions are, to me, rather strange, for you seem to be approaching societal

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

Edwina, where can we find these descriptive data? Did you use archival data? Did you do any fieldwork? Has it been published? What sources do you draw on? How did you conduct your qualitative research? What hypotheses guided your qualitative research? Have documented how you get to your

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

I don't know what Peirce thought about this, but I see democracy as an ontological term that covers all governance and is the standard by which all goverance should be evaluated. I do not believe it relates to size of population or other demographic benchmarks. It has to do with the rights of the

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

Stephen, List: I would suggest that democracy IS majority rule, and thus that the United States is NOT a democracy. Instead, it is a republic; in particular, a federal republic, with numerous checks and balances intended to prevent the concentration of power in any one person or

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

Stephan - Of course a democracy - and all modes of political operation - are carried out within some form of legal legitimization or constitution [written or oral]. And you are quite right to caution, strongly caution, against 'simple democracy' [see Aristotle's comments on this in his

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

Edwina, List To take only one point, I emphatically hold that democracy is much more than majority rule. We have just had an election which we would have to denote undemocratic if that was the case. As a polity I favor a constitutional democracy such as the we we have in the US. In addition to

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

Stefan - the analysis is based on descriptive data of the ecological anthropological analyses of various socioeconomic peoples - hunting/gathering; the different types of agriculturalism - wet and dry horticulture, pastoral nomadic, rainfall agriculture...and early and late industrialism. It

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

Stefan, Edwina, list: Great questions! Yes, Edwina, what is the icon, the index and the symbol? Best, Jerry R On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 5:35 PM, sb wrote: > Edwina, > > i would be really interested how you tackled such a complex theoretical > concept empirically. > >

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

Stephen, list: I don't think that democracy 'is human destiny', and I don't believe that we are moving 'in the direction of goodness'. Perhaps that's my cynicism but i don't think that man gets kinder, better as the centuries pass. I think our basic emotional psychological natures preclude

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

Yes - I've taught this relationship between economics, population size and political infrastructure for about 20 years. No- it's not really in the Architectonics book. It IS in a graphic book, The Graphic Guide to Socioeconomics - which a retired CEO banker and myself have just finished

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

I derive from my sense of Peirce and my own thinking that democracy is a scalable and universal polity, that it contains other values essential to the promulgation of goodness, truth and beauty, and that any effort to see it as valid only at certain scales or under certain conditions is as futile

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

Edwina, list, You've clearly given this a lot of prior thought, Edwina. I want to reflect on wht you wrote and see what others think before commenting further. Btw, would looking again at your book, *Architectonics of Semiosis*, for example, Chapter 2, "Purity and Power," be of any value in this

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

Gary R- that's an interesting topic. 1) I'd like to first comment that democracy, as a political system for arriving at authoritative government decisions, is the 'right' method but ONLY in a very large population with a growth economy and a growth population. That is, political systems have

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

Dear Gary, list: You said: Meanwhile, can anyone on the list offer some Peirce quotations which might help quickly clarify his views on democracy? Here is one…or two…or perhaps three: “The best republic is the ideally perfect, the second the best on earth, the third the best *ex

[PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

List, I read Robert B. Talisse's *A Pragmatist Philosophy of Democracy* (2007) a few year ago and was thinking of it again today, in part prompted by an op-ed piece in *The New York Times* by Roger Cohen which quotes H. L. Mencken (see below). At the time of my reading PPD, I was not at all

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Time, Topology, Differential Logic

Peircers, Movin' kinda slow, but I did get a decently formatted copy of that first excerpt from Kelley's Topology up on my blog: Time, Topology, Differential Logic • 5 https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/11/19/time-topology-differential-logic-%e2%80%a2-5/ I've also posted slightly improved