Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

Gary F., List: GF: In logical terms, the key is that excluded middle is a principle only of *deductive *reasoning, not of *ampliative *reasoning ... As I mentioned, excluded middle is even narrower than that--a principle only of *classical* deductive logic, not of *intuitionistic *deductive logi

[PEIRCE-L] Universal Logic Project: 16/12/2020 Webinar

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SpringerMath/photos/a.325650854151493/3521258054590741/

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

Your non-answer is OK with me. . My interpretation of your response is that your deep fears are well grounded. Cheers Jerry > On Dec 14, 2020, at 1:23 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt > wrote: > > Jerry, List: > > A simple Google search confirms that there is nothing "problematic" or > "radical" abou

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

List, Helmut: > > I think, that final causation (or induction) requires a need, which is > something only organisms have. No stone or molecule needs anything. I suggest that semantics of scientific causality and substantially wider than the narrow usage suggested by your philosophy. CSP logi

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

List, Jon: > On Dec 14, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt > wrote: > > As Peirce explains in various places, ampliative reasoning produces > conclusions that are not already contained in or implied by the premisses. As > such, it encompasses both abductive/retroductive reasoning and inducti

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

List: I am uncertain as to the semantic, syntactical, formal and CSP textual sources of meanings of the term “ampliative” as used in these two sentences. > On Dec 14, 2020, at 8:46 AM, g...@gnusystems.ca wrote: > > In logical terms, the key is that excluded middle is a principle only of > ded

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

Helmut - another analogy to Peirce's triad of abduction, deduction and induction is: "free will, determinism and locality" [See "Three types of logical structure resulting from the trilemma of free will, determinism and locality"" Yukio-PegioGunjia KyokoNakamurabceMaiMino

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

Helmut - the point of abduction is the appearance of a novel situation - and the adjustment by an organism to that novelty by its development of a new hypothesis or law. The organism - and I maintain this can be a plant, a cell, an insect, a human...interacting with the environ

Aw: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

      Supplement: Abduction means, that something is recognized (truly or falsely doesnt matter) as seeming like something other. That is depiction or awareness of resemblance. Please give me one example, in which this occurs besides the action of a neuronic network. Edwina, I seem to not com

Aw: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

Edwina, I seem to not come through. I dont know, chance is something quite trivial for me, and abduction something more complex. To mentally abduct something means to copy it. Chance is just incertainty. Incertainty occurs in the physicochemical realm, but the ability of copying something reqires

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

Jerry, List: A simple Google search confirms that there is nothing "problematic" or "radical" about the well-established definition of "ampliative reasoning" within the discipline of logic. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Chris

Re: Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

Helmut - we'll just have to disagree! I consider that chance is a basic attribute of abduction, where an aberration from the norm appears, and the Mind [and I consider that all matter including the inorganic, functions within Mind] - can develop a new habit that incorporates th

Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

Edwina, I agree, that in inanimate world there is chance, due to the Heisenberg incertainty and to incertainty as calculated by chaos theory. But I doubt, that this has to do with induction or abduction, or with final or example causation. I think, that final causation (or induction) requires a ne

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

Jerry, List: As Peirce explains in various places, ampliative reasoning produces conclusions that are not already contained in or implied by the premisses. As such, it encompasses both abductive/retroductive reasoning and inductive reasoning, but not deductive reasoning. That being the case, *nece

Re: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

Helmut - you are ignoring the role of Firstness, or chance, within the inanimate and animate world. Chance, spontaneity are vital actions enabling adaptive and evolutionary capacities - and these two actions are obviously not found only within the human realm. But also within t

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Representing Abduction in the EG

Jeff, John, List: I am indeed aware of the paper by Bellucci and Pietarinen, since it appears in the same issue of *Transactions* as my own on "Peirce's Topical Continuum." However, my approach for now is what John describes--"translate the English to EGs and then perform the equivalent operations

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

List, I have to ponder your posts, because up to now my idea has been, that in inanimate nature merely deduction/efficient causation occurs, in animate nature (organisms) also induction/final causation, and in neuro-nature (brain animals) also abduction/example causation. To suggest that a molecul

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

Jon Alan, list, Three years ago when I posted my transcription of Lowell Lecture 2 on my website (https://gnusystems.ca/Lowell2.htm) I was quite baffled by Peirce’s derivation of the negating signification of the cut from the signification of the scroll with a blackened inner close or “pseudogr