[PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce on Art and Poetry

2020-12-20 Thread Jon Awbrey
My guess — If the medium is truly the message Then the blank slate is the innate idea. Regards, Jon http://inquiryintoinquiry.com > On Dec 20, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Brooks, William F wrote: > > I’m supremely ignorant, and perhaps it's best left that way . . . > > But . . . > > What might

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce on Art and Poetry (was Asymmetry of Logic and Time)

2020-12-20 Thread Brooks, William F
I’m supremely ignorant, and perhaps it's best left that way . . . But . . . What might Peirce have said about, say, John Cage? Bill William Brooks w-bro...@illinois.edu Emeritus Professor of Music University of Illinois Urbana, IL 61801 United States

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

2020-12-20 Thread Skaggs,Steven
Right. SxS On Dec 20, 2020, at 6:44 PM, Jerry Rhee mailto:jerryr...@gmail.com>> wrote: CAUTION: This email originated from outside of our organization. Do not click links, open attachments, or respond unless you recognize the sender's email address and know the contents are safe. Dear

[PEIRCE-L] Peirce on Art and Poetry (was Asymmetry of Logic and Time)

2020-12-20 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Steven, List: I suspect that Peirce would perceive this response as setting up a false dichotomy. CSP: I hear you say: "All that is not *fact*; it is poetry." Nonsense! Bad poetry is false, I grant; but nothing is truer than true poetry. ... [T]he universe is a vast representamen, a great

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

2020-12-20 Thread Jerry Rhee
Dear Steven, I suppose it makes about as much sense as talking about a "final interpretant" that is a moral community.. or some Supreme End. *Any* Supreme End will do, of course. With best wishes, Jerry R On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 5:37 PM Skaggs,Steven wrote: > Jerry, > > My opinion is that

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

2020-12-20 Thread Skaggs,Steven
Jerry, My opinion is that Peirce leads to a "convergence toward", but much art produces a "divergence from". So, for example, what sense does it make to talk about the “final interpretant” of a Rothko? SxS On Dec 20, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Skaggs,Steven mailto:s.ska...@louisville.edu>> wrote:

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

2020-12-20 Thread Jerry Rhee
Dear Steven, list, You said: *‘seems’, ‘almost’, ‘completely’.. ‘inapplicable’.* You must agree with me that *your* use of such terms makes *my* interpreting *your* position on this matter extremely vague, don’t you think? As for *“This is a major shortcoming, it seems to me, in Peirce,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

2020-12-20 Thread Skaggs,Steven
"CSP: Finally, as what anything really is, is what it may finally come to be known to be in the ideal state of complete information, so that reality depends on the ultimate decision of the community; so thought is what it is, only by virtue of its addressing a future thought which is in its

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Law

2020-12-20 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Jon A., List: Indeed, Peirce's Law is one of several possible formalizations of excluded middle within classical logic, although it seems likely that Peirce himself would have objected to referring to it as such since he denied the underlying assumption. CSP: Logic requires us, with reference to

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

2020-12-20 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary F., List: I suggest that we interpret that particular statement in light of what comes right before it. CSP: Finally, as what anything really is, is what it may finally come to be known to be in the ideal state of complete information, so that reality depends on the ultimate decision of the

[PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Law

2020-12-20 Thread Jon Awbrey
Peircers, Pursuing the discussion of many things: of laws — and graphs — and reasoning — of contradictions — and abducations — and why the third is given not — and whether figs have wings — It might not be non sequitur to remember that place in Peirceland where we walk the line between

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

2020-12-20 Thread gnox
Thanks, Jon Alan, I think I’m aboard this train of thought, although it’s taking me into unfamiliar territory. I hadn’t really considered that a relation of negation can be either symmetrical or asymmetrical. I wonder which case applies to this early (18) remark of Peirce’s: “The individual