[PEIRCE-L] Re: Ampliative Reasoning (was Asymmetry of Logic and Time)

2020-12-21 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
List, Jon: Thank you for the clarification of the issue of ampliative logic from your perspective and for the textual references. Very helpful. Thanks. "The term "ampliative" appears 25 times in CP,…” This is rather surprising. One rarely if ever sees this term in logical texts today.

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

2020-12-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary F., List: GF: If the context involves “the ideal state of complete information”, then the contrast is between an ideal “individual” and an ideal “community”--not between real people and real communities. I read the context as contrasting a real individual with the ideal community, any one

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Asymmetry of Logic and Time

2020-12-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary F., John, List: GF: Consequence comes before negation. JFS: That is a technical point from one stage in the development of Peirce's systems of logic. Apparently, we still disagree about this. It is a technical point that applies to logic in general, not merely "one stage in the development

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's Law

2020-12-21 Thread Jon Awbrey
Dear Jon, All ... Peirce's explorations in logic and the theory of signs opened several directions of generalization from logics of complete information (LOCI) to theories of partial information (TOPI). Naturally we hope all these avenues of approach will eventually converge on a unified base

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

2020-12-21 Thread Jerry Rhee
Gary f., list, You said: I wonder which case applies to this early (1868) remark of Peirce’s: “The individual man, since his separate existence is manifested only by ignorance and error, so far as he is anything apart from his fellows, and from what he and they are to be, is only a

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)

2020-12-21 Thread gnox
Jon Alan, list, GF: a relation of negation can be either symmetrical or asymmetrical. I wonder which case applies to this early (1868) remark of Peirce’s: “The individual man, since his separate existence is manifested only by ignorance and error, so far as he is anything apart from his

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Asymmetry of Logic and Time

2020-12-21 Thread Helmut Raulien
              Supp-supplement: Sorry, in my previous two posts I had gotten confused. I try again (everybody may try three times, isnt it?) Quotation marks indicate a concept, minusses indicate a quotation. About his own universe, a propositioner cannot justifiedly, nonparadoxically, say:

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Asymmetry of Logic and Time

2020-12-21 Thread Helmut Raulien
      Supplement: My deduction in the middle of the second paragraph is false. It is only true, if we assume, that a concept is constructed by existence- or by making up: It might be, that in the universe in which no horses exist, people have made up the concept of them nayway, as it might be,

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Asymmetry of Logic and Time

2020-12-21 Thread Helmut Raulien
  Jon, Gary, List,   I didnt get a feeling so far about intuistic logic, the not excluded middle and the double negation being something else than the non-existent negation. All I can do, is reconstruct these ideas with my own thoughts, otherwise I cannot understand them. I am very interested