Re: Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Inference as growth

2021-02-01 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Helmut, list 1] I'm not sure what a 'universally valid law' means. After all, 'laws' in themselves, are evolved habits, both in the natural world and in the conceptual world. Therefore, a conceptual belief, whether operative in a sect, religion, or myth, is as much a 'law' or

Re: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Inference as growth (was No subject

2021-02-01 Thread Auke van Breemen
> Op 1 februari 2021 om 17:03 schreef Helmut Raulien : > > Auke, Jon, John, Edwina, All, > > I don´t see, that a transparent universe is the critical point: Jon A.S.´ > example is valid in a transparent universe too: > Helmut, The point is not if Jon's example is valid in a

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Inference as growth

2021-02-01 Thread Helmut Raulien
      Supplement: With "law" I was meaning "universally valid law", not a law stated by a sect, religion, or myth. These would not concern the difference between the NOT- operator and the EXIST- operator, as both are universal, none of them is particularistic. Particularistic "laws" I would not

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Inference as growth

2021-02-01 Thread Helmut Raulien
Edwina, I find it interesting, that you think, that the semiosic process begins with 1ns, I originally think so too. That is, because in my opinion, the object does not exist before it is denoted. The sign/representamen makes something (a subject?) an object. I only wrote "2-1-3" to not raise a

[PEIRCE-L] Inference as growth

2021-02-01 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Helmut - a few comments: 1] I think the semiosic process begins with 1ns, a sensation...and moves into awareness [2ns].. 2] With regard to your statement 'There is no unicorn that is not pink' - I think that this is what is known as an 'E' or negative form. Essentially

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Inference as growth (was No subject

2021-02-01 Thread Helmut Raulien
Auke, Jon, John, Edwina, All,   I don´t see, that a transparent universe is the critical point: Jon A.S.´ example is valid in a transparent universe too: From "There is no unicorn that is not pink" , which is true, does not follow "Every unicorn is pink", which is not true, even or especially

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Inference as growth (was No subject

2021-02-01 Thread Edwina Taborsky
John, my interest in the article wasn’t about the symbols used to refer to logical processes but about the processes of the triadic sign, ie, that it is an asymmetrical and generative process, not a representative process. And I was pleased to see a scholar in both philosophy and Peirce refer

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Inference as growth (was No subject

2021-02-01 Thread Auke van Breemen
John, This part of the article Edwina send is relevant: It follows that logic, in Peirce’s illative, ecstatic sense, is better understood as an inductive rather than a deductive science, for the ampliative work of inductive inference better exemplifies, in a richer, fuller sense, the