Helmut and John,

It may take me awhile to respond to either or both of your posts in this 
thread, because I have less time for reading and writing than I used to, and 
I’m deliberately slowing down at both. For instance, when I first noticed an 
affinity between the Merleau-Ponty quote near the end of my mini-essay 
<https://gnusystems.ca/TS/slc.htm#mtns>  and the Peircean concept of the 
phaneron, it took me almost three weeks to decide that the affinity was genuine 
enough to warrant some explication, and then to transform a previously-written 
TS point into that explication. So I expect it will be a similarly slow process 
for me to make a post-worthy response to your responses (especially since I 
haven’t read your Chapter 7 before, John). So right now I’ll just thank you 
both for your responses and leave it at that.

Gary f.

Coming from the ancestral lands of the Anishinaabeg

} The Path is fundamentally without words. We use words to reveal the Path. 
[Blue Cliff Record 25] {

https://gnusystems.ca/wp/ }{ Turning Signs

 

From: peirce-l-requ...@list.iupui.edu <peirce-l-requ...@list.iupui.edu> On 
Behalf Of John F Sowa
Sent: 15-Jun-22 23:17
To: Peirce-L <peirce-l@list.iupui.edu>; g...@gnusystems.ca
Subject: re: [PEIRCE-L] the essence and emptiness of meaning

 

Gary F,

 

I enjoy browsing through your Turning Signs from time to time -- mainly because 
you put more emphasis on the questions than the answers.  Any particular 
answers can become obsolete, but questions always remain fresh.  One set of 
answers always leads to more questions.  For any truly interesting question, 
there is no such thing as  a final answer.

 

In my book, Conceptual Structures (1984), the first six chapters had a lot of 
answers.  Many of them are still quite good, but updating them would be a huge 
amount of work.  But Chapter 7 raises the questions and loose ends that were 
not answered. 

 

One reviewer said that Ch 7 seems to refute everything in the previous six 
chapters.  But it doesn't refute them.  It just points out the many loose ends 
for which the answers are incomplete.  After 38 years, much more has been 
written about those questions, but the answers are just as incomplete as they 
ever were..  The main thing that has changed is that there are now many more 
questions.

 

See below for the opening paragraph of Chapter 7 and the URL to the rest.

 

John

 

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7. Limits of Conceptualization


No theory is fully understood until its limitations are recognized. To avoid 
the presumption that
conceptual mechanisms completely define the human mind, this chapter surveys 
aspects of the mind
that lie beyond (or perhaps beneath) conceptual graphs. These are the 
continuous aspects of the
world that cannot be adequately expressed in discrete concepts and conceptual 
relations.

 

http://jfsowa.com/pubs/cs7.pdf

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