Gary F., List,
I think, if I want to combine semiotics with system theory, I have to leave the metaphysical (universal) context. A universal context is e.g., that a ball embodies the feeling of perfection. But a spider merely embodies the feeling of fear to someone who is afraid of spiders.
i.e., 1ns independent of individual instantiation is akin to objectivity when
we add subjectivities and objective relations and insert time -- it is the
statistical aggregate, or confluence, which supersedes the individual by virtue
of its convergence toward "fact": but I know this is not what
Jon, List
Apologies in advance for this overly-long reply which may open up some lines of
thought without properly addressing them - in a bit of a rush but wanted to put
my point to paper! (it really is longwinded! - a draft of a draft!). [also
conscious that I diverge from the initial point,
Jon, List,
Thanks for that Jon. I don't substantially disagree. I find this helpful. I
arrive at a similar conclusion from a different angle in what was an enormous
reply better suited to a draft. Gary's point in reply to Helmut was also
helpful. Where I disagree, slightly, is in the idea of
Helmut, a feeling, in the Peircean sense we’re using here, can’t be sent or
received, or even perceived in the way that an external object can be
perceived. As Jon explained, it can only be prescinded from an actual
experience, which means dropping out of consideration the usual distinctions
