RE: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:7097] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6

2014-10-06 Thread Howard Pattee
At 07:45 AM 10/6/2014, Gary Fuhrman wrote: Information in Peircean logic is defined as the logical product of the breadth and depth of a sign; these are logical quantities and cannot be measured in bits. HP: I do not understand a quantity that has no measure of some kind. If not information,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:7097] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6

2014-10-05 Thread Clark Goble
On Oct 5, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Gary Fuhrman g...@gnusystems.ca wrote: HP: Suppose, in context of a Dicisign or a proposition, you ask me: Is it true or false? I can give you a one-bit answer. Isn't that bit some kind of sign? GF: My answer to your question is: 1. (as opposed to 0). But

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:7097] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6

2014-10-05 Thread Howard Pattee
At 06:41 PM 10/5/2014, Clark Goble wrote: The type/token distinction seems definitely to apply here [Pattee-Fuhrman disagreement]. HP: I agree. Bits are ambiguous. Bit may refer to a measure or type of information, or bit may refer to a token of information, like 0 or 1. Howard