Jack, list,

In my previous note, I said that the differences between Kant & Peirce can be 
explained by the huge development of science between the mid 18th c (Kant) and 
the late 19th c (Peirce).   But I realize that quotations are important to pad 
out a publication.  At the end are some quotations I received in an offline 
note from someone who preferred not to get involved with the debate.

After those quotations, I copied excerpts from my previous note, which I 
believe are justified by what Peirce wrote.  But he emphasized that with his 
"left-handed brain", he did not think in words.   As he said in CP 5.18,  the 
meaning of  every theoretical judgment expressible in the indicative mood lies 
in a conditional sentence in the imperative mood.

I also want to emphasize the importance of his correspondence with Lady Welby.  
In 1903, he adopted the word 'phenomenology' from Kant in an abstract 
discussion.  But in 1904-5, he switched to a more concrete phaneroscopy after 
beginning his correspondence with LW and her significs.   That's yet another 
reason why using quotations to support an argument can be misleading, 
especially when they're taken from different MSS at different dates.

John
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Philosophy ought to imitate the successful sciences in its methods, so far as 
to proceed only from tangible premisses which can be subjected to careful 
scrutiny, and to trust rather to the multitude and variety of its arguments 
than to the conclusiveness of any one. Its reasoning should not form a chain 
which is no stronger than its weakest link, but a cable whose fibers may be 
ever so slender, provided they are sufficiently numerous and intimately 
connected. [CP 5.265, c. 1868]
Supposing matter to be but mind under the slavery of inveterate habit, the law 
of mind still applies to it. According to that law, consciousness subsides as 
habit becomes established, and is excited again at the breaking up of habit. 
But the highest quality of mind involves a great readiness to take habits, and 
a great readiness to lose them. [CP 6.613, 1893]
Abduction furnishes all our ideas concerning real things, beyond what are given 
in perception, but is mere conjecture, without probative force. Deduction is 
certain but relates only to ideal objects. Induction gives us the only approach 
to certainty concerning the real that we can have. In forty years diligent 
study of arguments, I have never found one which did not consist of those 
elements. The successes of modern science ought to convince us that induction 
is the only capable imperator of truth-seeking. Now pragmaticism is simply the 
doctrine that the inductive method is the only essential to the ascertainment 
of the intellectual purport of any symbol. [CP 8.209, c.1905]
"Pragmatism is the principle that every theoretical judgment expressible in a 
sentence in the indicative mood is a confused form of thought whose only 
meaning, if it has any, lies in its tendency to enforce a corresponding 
practical maxim expressible as a conditional sentence having its apodosis in 
the imperative mood" [CP 5.18, 1903]
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But when I said that the details are not important, I meant the tons of 
quotations.  You won't discover why Kant and Peirce disagreed about the 
noumenon just by reading what they wrote -- or any commentary by any scholar of 
either or both.  You need to read their biographies, and the history of their 
time..

Kant was an excellent theoretician who had studied, taught, developed, and 
published important theoretical work about Newtonian mechanics.   But the 
science of his day was limited.  Benjamin Franklin had just discovered the 
nature of lightening by flying a kite.  Chemistry was just beginning to creep 
out of alchemy.  There was no concept of chemical elements.  No steam engines.  
The only horse power came from horses.

But when Peirce was just 8 years old, his father taught him chemistry and gave 
him exercises in analyzing mixtures to determine what chemical compounds were 
present.  Those exercises were and still are college-level tests.

Furthermore, Peirce traveled the world measuring gravity -- and doing the math 
to determine how to design better equipment for the purpose.  He even 
recommended the use of a wavelength of light as a unit of measure for the 
pendulums he used.  He not only recommended that -- he even designed the 
equipment for doing those very precise measurements,

That is an immense difference in the state of science  in just a century.   
That is a fact that you won't find by reading Peirce or Kant or  any scholar 
who writes commentary about their writings.

That is why Kant was pessimistic about learning the nature of the Ding an sich, 
and Peirce was optimistic that someday any currently unknown facts would 
(might?) eventually be discovered.

Peirce had great faith in the progress of science -- but he realized that it 
might take much more than one or two centuries to discover the minutest 
details.   His three guiding principles:  The First Rule of Reason, 
Fallibilism, and no limit to the amount of time that may be required.

Most authors who comment on Peirce mention those three principles.  But they 
don't apply them to questions about the unknown or unknowable Ding an sich.
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