Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metalanguage (was Delta Existential Graphs

2024-02-26 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List: JFS: This is my last note on this thread until 2/29 or later. Understood, and at this point, I doubt that there is much more for either of us to say without further repeating ourselves anyway. JFS: Metalanguage is the only feature required to define modality. Peirce never said

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metalanguage (was Delta Existential Graphs

2024-02-26 Thread John F Sowa
Jon, I am preparing slides for a Zoom talk on 2/28. (I'll send the abstract and link tomorrow.) This is my last note on this thread until 2/29 or later. JAS> Even in the printed book, the line attached to the first oval on page 151 is thinly drawn, exactly like the oval itself, while the

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metalanguage (was Delta Existential Graphs

2024-02-26 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List: JFS: I admit that I was looking at the printed book, Reasoning and the logic of things. In that book, the transcription shows a clearly drawn line that connects the oval to the word 'is'. Even in the printed book, the line attached to the first oval on page 151 is *thinly *drawn,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metalanguage (was Delta Existential Graphs

2024-02-25 Thread John F Sowa
Jon, I admit that I was looking at the printed book, Reasoning and the logic of things. In that book, the transcription shows a clearly drawn line that connects the oval to the word 'is'. That is an excellent notation. I admit that the MS copies below are ambiguous. But the two sentences

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metalanguage (was Delta Existential Graphs

2024-02-25 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List: JFS: I already answered these points. I could say the same thing, but I will likewise give it another try. JFS: Please look at the example in RLT. A line of identity by itself is a complete, fully formed EG. There is no line of identity in that one-of-a-kind EG. The line

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metalanguage (was Delta Existential Graphs

2024-02-25 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List: JFS: I appreciate your comments, even though they disagree with what I believe Peirce intended. But I can see that I need to respond to the questions you raise in the article I'm writing. Likewise, I appreciate your responses and the ongoing dialogue. As I see it, what we are

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metalanguage (was Delta Existential Graphs

2024-02-24 Thread John F Sowa
Jon, I appreciate your comments, even though they disagree with what I believe Peirce intended. But I can see that I need to respond to the questions you raise in the article I'm writing. JAS> In the RLT example, what is written outside the "lightly drawn oval" does not govern what is

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metalanguage (was Delta Existential Graphs

2024-02-24 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List: JFS: The word 'paper' is the same word that he used in R514 for a paper with postulates in the margin that govern the graphs inside a red line. Actually, Peirce *does not* use the word "paper" in the "red pencil" passage of R 514, he uses the word "sheet." However, this is just a

[PEIRCE-L] Metalanguage (was Delta Existential Graphs

2024-02-24 Thread John F Sowa
Jon, List, Please note the phrase "a special understanding between utterer and interpreter" in the excerpt below. And note that different "papers" of the phemic sheet may have different special understandings. Although Peirce did not coin the term 'metalanguage', that is the word that has