Gary, list,
what I am confused about, is, that on one hand Shepperson says, that statistics are not helpful, but on the other hand he sticks with the term "...numerable". Might it not be better, to first inquire about the nature of humans, how humans have reacted in certain situations in history, and how societies have changed due to changing circumstances? Historical evolution and statistics are two different and mostly independent parameters, because in history there mostly was no democracy. When a king tried to break the jurisdictions of the town and village communities to replace them with his laws and institutions, it might have been, that only 3 percent of the population agreed, the rest objected, but although the king achieved what he wanted, because he had armoured knights, and the peasants didnt. I also doubt, that even in so-called democratic nations there is democracy: Power is not established only with arms now, but mostly with money, and one has to be able to afford a lawyer first, before being able to effectively argue for his/her right. So mixing statistical numbers with human nature from the start is not only confusing, but perhaps also falsely suggesting, that there is an all-effective democracy existing, which combines these two parameters. Which is not the case. So I think, that in sociology and anthropology inductions about human nature, and statistical inductions, can only be two different and separate ways of inquiry. Only at the end they may be compared just to estimate how democratic the society has been, in which the evolution has taken place. I recommend the book "Mutual Aid" by Peter Kropotkin, who has lived about the same time like Peirce.
Best,
Helmut
 
 
 01. Oktober 2016 um 20:05 Uhr
 "Gary Richmond" <gary.richm...@gmail.com>
 
Ben, Jon, list,
 
The discussion today got me thinking again about Arnold Shepperson's work. Shepperson who died prematurely and so was not able to fully develop let alone complete his work, was perhaps South Africa's best known (he'd have said, "only") Peirce scholar. In a special edition of the S.A. journal, Critical Arts, I wrote an article, "Cultural Pragmatism and the Life of the Sign," outlining an important principle of his approach to inquiry. 
 
In consideration of inquiry requiring the sampling of a population, Shepperson argued that, for example, in his own field, JMC (journalism, media, and communication studies) that inquiry employed hypotheses involving not only denumerable and enumerable collections (see below), but even more so, that it ought consider what Peirce termed "abnumerable collections," that is collections of potential populations, changing populations tending towards the future. Here's a short excerpt from my article which focuses on this principle.
 
Shepperson argued strongly that the kind of sampling appropriate to most JMC inquiry  is a little understood variety not relying on statistical probabilities. This alternative approach is necessary because “the persons, collections and institutions that make up the social realm do not constitute a collection that can be validly sampled statistically.” 
 
In this model JMC inquiry is not essentially concerned with collections whose members can be presently counted (e.g., a census), nor even those which form a partial ordering (e.g., the generations of a given society). Rather, he holds that, as JMC concerns itself with ever-changing populations tending towards the future, it ought sample potential populations, what Peirce called abnumerable collections (as opposed to the denumerable and enumerable collections just mentioned parenthetically above). Shepperson noted that since the very subject matter of JMC studies, the social realm, is itself an abnumerable collection, statistical sampling could result in distortions, kinds of ‘freezing’ of the characters of what are essentially ever-changing, perhaps evolving populations. 
 
Furthermore, potential collections involve what Peirce refers to as would-bes, or that which would occur if certain conditions were brought about (for example, if all young people in a given society were provided internet access) and this too relates to the ethics involved in JMC inquiry and practice. This emphasis on potential populations does not deny that in specific contexts and under certain conditions that statistical sampling isn’t desirable in JMC research. But Shepperson’s argument strongly implies that, when considering the social realm, it is not possible to “draw necessary conclusions about the human future.” All researchers can do is to “continually test our hypotheses against experience, correcting as we learn from the errors that this experience reveals.” It was Shepperson’s hope that JMC inquiry could develop exemplary methods and techniques for sampling abnumerable collections so that its findings would tend “over the long run to approximate to true assertions about social and human reality.”
 
Any thoughts on how the consideration of potential populations (abnumerable collections) involving "would-be's" might inform inquiry into those fields concerned with human behavior and institutions, such as sociology, anthropology, etc? 
 
Best,
 
Gary R
 
Gary Richmond
 
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On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Benjamin Udell <baud...@gmail.com> wrote:

Gary R., list,

I agree, a hypothesis may be uncertain yet still be helpful, although it's important for a contrite fallibilism in any science that the uncertainty, possible errors, etc., be examined and expressed.

- Best, Ben

On 10/1/2016 12:53 PM, Gary Richmond wrote:

Ben, List,

Thanks for this clarification. You wrote: Researchers need to be able to state that a hypothesis has been ruled out in plain enough words to keep communication clear because the scientific method is the inquiry method that, by its own account, can go wrong as well as right. They don't always say "shown to be false," they'll say "ruled out" or "disconfirmed" or "disfavored" or the like.

I suppose the language of "ruled out" or "disconfirmed" seems sounder to me than "false;"  but perhaps it amounts to the same thing.

But aren't there some hypotheses which, while not fully borne out when tested, yet give information which is, for example, "statistically significant" in adding to the understanding of the question being inquired into such that that the direction of further inquiry may be informed by that, shall we say, incomplete  (although not strictly 'false') result? This seems to me to happen, for example, in the social sciences (and other 'soft' sciences).

Best,

Gary  R

Gary Richmond

Gary Richmond
Philosophy and Critical Thinking
Communication Studies
LaGuardia College of the City University of New York
C 745
718 482-5690

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Benjamin Udell <baud...@gmail.com> wrote:

Gary R., list,

"Good" is traditionally taken as meaning "valid" or "justified" when applied to an inference. Valid deductions can conclude in falsehoods by vice of falsehood among the premisses, and we can see both critical and methodeutical kinds of justification of an abductive inference that can nevertheless turn out, upon testing, to conclude in a falsehood, e.g., the hypothesis of a detectable ether wind in the theoretical effort to save the Galilean transformations; the disconfirmation of the ether wind led eventually to the triumph of the Lorentz transformations, amid which the Galilean transformations survive as an approximation for things moving slowly in one's reference frame, and it led to the quantitative unification of time and space (with lightspeed as yardstick, e.g., years and light-years), which simply isn't there in the Galilean and (unreconstructed) Newtonian pictures; in any case the hypothesis of an ether wind is quite dead, but it was critically and methodeutically justified as far as it went; it was plausible, distinctive predictions were deducible from it, and indeed its adoption bore fruit. Researchers need to be able to state that a hypothesis has been ruled out in plain enough words to keep communication clear because the scientific method is the inquiry method that, by its own account, can go wrong as well as right. They don't always say "shown to be false," they'll say "ruled out" or "disconfirmed" or "disfavored" or the like. The majority of explanatory hypotheses, even the fruitful ones, turn out to be false; the surprising thing, as Peirce often pointed out, is that they aren't false much oftener. - Best, Ben

On 10/1/2016 11:34 AM, Gary Richmond wrote:

Ben, Jon, List,

Ben, you commented:

"An abductive inference may be good and successful in terms of the economics of inquiry, even if it turns out to conclude in a falsehood, if it nevertheless helps research by either making it positively fruitful (think of all the hypotheses that positively help lead to truth without scoring a 'hole in one') or at least by leading to knowledge of a previously unknown dead end that would otherwise have caused waste of time and energy."

I would tend to agree strongly with this but wonder whether 'falsehood' is the best _expression_ to describe what happens in such a case. The abduction is 'good' if it is testable, even if the hypothesis is not, or not fully, borne out. As you suggested, information is sometimes gained from testing such hypotheses which, in the economy of research, is useful for further inquiry.

Best,

Gary R

Gary Richmond

Gary Richmond
Philosophy and Critical Thinking
Communication Studies
LaGuardia College of the City University of New York
C 745
718 482-5690

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