Gary F., list Thanks for transcribing this excerpt. I wish I had the time to transcript the whole MS. If you do or find a transcription, please send me!
You comment on my claim: > What he says here about the weathercock is: > > 1) If it works properly, it is an index involving an icon, and a > proposition. > > 2) If it sticks and fails to turn, it is a *false* proposition; *unless* > > 3) it is *known* to be nonfunctional, in which case it "sinks to a mere > icon, at best." > > So if *we know* that the weathercock doesn't work properly, it is neither > false nor an index! > > > But Peirce finishes your excerpt saying: "It is not essential to an index that it should thus involve an icon. Only, if it does not, it will convey no information." (Peirce, MS 7) V: Certainly, if we know that the weather-cock is broken, then there would be no point in assuming it is an index. Then it is just an icon, like a weather-cock exposed in a museum. But the critical point is when we think the weather-cock is functional while it is not. In THIS case, it will be an index but without involving an icon. It will then convey no information and become a false proposition. That's what I meant to say: even if no interpreter ever sees it, its representation of the wind is already false - unless the eventual interpreter KNOWS it is broken. But in this last case, it is not even an index anymore. Vinicius > > ----------------------------- > PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to > peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L > but to l...@list.iupui.edu with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the > BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm. > > > > > > -- Vinicius Romanini, Ph.D. Professor of Communication Studies School of Communications and Arts University of Sao Paulo, Brazil www.minutesemeiotic.org www.semeiosis.com.br Skype:vinicius_romanini -- Vinicius Romanini, Ph.D. Professor of Communication Studies School of Communications and Arts University of Sao Paulo, Brazil www.minutesemeiotic.org www.semeiosis.com.br Skype:vinicius_romanini
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