Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mathematical phaneroscopy (was slow read...

2021-08-10 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
List: > On Aug 9, 2021, at 5:57 AM, JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY > wrote: > > Well mathematics is much more homogenous than other languages or sign-systems > but whilst mathematical truths are universal, existing whatever > language/method one uses, the manner of reaching those truths can surely

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mathematical phaneroscopy (was slow read...

2021-08-09 Thread JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY
Jerry, List, A communication between professional mathematics is strictly dependent on the reader to actively re-construct the text (often diagrams) in order to understand the associations between the mathematical signs, the mathematical syntax and the mathematical semantics. Yes, this is partl

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mathematical phaneroscopy (was slow read...

2021-08-07 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Jack, list Yes, and see also Mikhail Bakhtin's 'The Dialogic Imagination and the notion of 'heteroglossia', ie, the primacy of context over text'..which essentially means, in Peircean terms, the function of the mediating Representamen in the generation of meaning. And the fact th

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mathematical phaneroscopy (was slow read...

2021-08-07 Thread Edwina Taborsky
021 11:13 PM To: JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY Cc: tabor...@primus.ca ; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mathematical phaneroscopy (was slow read... Jack KRC> At the risk of being pedantic, what is meant by "mathematical" here? That qu

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mathematical phaneroscopy (was slow read...

2021-08-06 Thread JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY
Edwina, List, Edwina: Therefore- my interpretation of the above is that mathematics is essentially an abstract logical process; not an actual measurement process. But a process of setting up relations and interactions between units. This is also similar to how I think of it (as an abstract log

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mathematical phaneroscopy (was slow read...

2021-08-06 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
> *From:* John F. Sowa > *Sent:* Friday, August 6, 2021 11:13 PM > *To:* JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY > *Cc:* tabor...@primus.ca ; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu < > peirce-l@list.iupui.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mathematical phaneroscopy (was

RE: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mathematical phaneroscopy (was slow read...

2021-08-06 Thread gnox
; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mathematical phaneroscopy (was slow read... Jack KRC> At the risk of being pedantic, what is meant by "mathematical" here? That question is important for understanding what Peirce meant in saying that Phaneroscopy

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mathematical phaneroscopy (was slow read...

2021-08-06 Thread JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY
hn F. Sowa Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 11:13 PM To: JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY Cc: tabor...@primus.ca ; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mathematical phaneroscopy (was slow read... Jack KRC> At the risk of being pedantic, what is meant by "mathematical"

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mathematical phaneroscopy (was slow read...

2021-08-06 Thread John F. Sowa
Jack KRC> At the risk of being pedantic, what is meant by "mathematical" here? That question is important for understanding what Peirce meant in saying that Phaneroscopy depends on mathematics. The simplest and clearest definition:  "Anything that can be completely specified by a definition sta

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mathematical phaneroscopy (was slow read...

2021-08-06 Thread JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY
John, Edwina, List JFS: The fact that every form is by nature mathematical is essential for showing the dependence of phaneroscopy on mathematics. But it does not imply that every step of phaneroscopy requires detailed calculation. At the risk of being pedantic, what is meant by "mathematic