Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6

2014-10-06 Thread Sungchul Ji
Jon wrote: It is necessary to distinguish information (100614-1) from measures of information. Is this because information has three aspects/properties -- i) quantity, ii) meaning, and iii) value, and yest Shannon's information theory and other similar quantitative approaches to

[Fwd: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6]

2014-10-06 Thread Sungchul Ji
Excuse me, The following quotations were from Gary F, not from Jon. Sung Original Message Subject: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6 From:Sungchul Ji s...@rci.rutgers.edu Date:Mon, October 6, 2014 3:35 pm

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6

2014-10-06 Thread Sungchul Ji
Gary F wrote in the following link: As De Tienne (2006) explains: Peirce's elaborate discussion of dicisigns or propositions (100614-1) in the Syllabus of 1903 (EP2: 275–85, 294–99) and in ‘New Elements’ (EP2: 308–24) demonstrates clearly how such propositions always involve iconic and

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6

2014-10-06 Thread Gary Fuhrman
Sung, you need to read the EP passages cited (and/or Natural Propositions, Chapter 3) on dicisigns and propositions. They do not have icons as objects; rather their *relation to* their object is iconic as well as indexical (and sometimes symbolic). There is no other way for an indexical sign to