Re: [PEIRCE-L] diagrams of semiosis

2020-07-03 Thread robert marty
Jon Alan, List After a private reply from Jon Alan and to my great regret, I find that it is in my own interest to stop debating with him on this thread. This is not a personal matter. I will soon propose a general reflection on the biases I have identified that prevent a serene scientific

Re: [PEIRCE-L] diagrams of semiosis

2020-07-01 Thread robert marty
REP EN > 01/07 · No it's not entirely clear: Do I understand that you keep your diagram simply by removing the ovals? If so it's up to you to do it... for I remind you that you have contrasted your diagram with the one I offers in an introductory book to semiotics: My original

Re: [PEIRCE-L] diagrams of semiosis

2020-06-29 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Robert, List: I acknowledge that my diagram looks very much like a Venn diagram, and I confess that this is misleading. It is not intended to be understood that way, so my error was creating that wrong impression, for which I apologize. A quasi-mind is not a *set*, it "is itself a sign, a

Re: [PEIRCE-L] diagrams of semiosis

2020-06-29 Thread robert marty
Le mer. 24 juin 2020 à 02:57, Jon Alan Schmidt a écrit : > Robert, Helmut, List: > > I agree that it is important to recognize not only the genuine *triadic > *relation > of "representing" or "mediating" with its three correlates--sign, object, > and interpretant--but also the *dyadic*

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] diagrams of semiosis

2020-06-24 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Robert - Your semiotic manual - which I looked at from the first lesson - is excellent. Including the 'dynamic' diagrams. Edwina On Wed 24/06/20 5:59 AM , robert marty robert.mart...@gmail.com sent: Edwina,

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] diagrams of semiosis

2020-06-23 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }List Thanks to Robert Marty for both the list of the 76 definitions of the sign - and - for the diagram of the dynamics of the semiosic process. It's very clear in that diagram how the triadic process functions

correction RE: [PEIRCE-L] diagrams of semiosis

2020-06-23 Thread gnox
Jon, sorry, I meant to reply to your final paragraph but got distracted. (New rule: never try to compose a post while you have a chatty 6-year-old bouncing around you.) I also fixed an omission in my post below. JAS: I agree, but I believe that we must still carefully distinguish an

RE: [PEIRCE-L] diagrams of semiosis

2020-06-23 Thread gnox
Jon, sorry, I meant to reply to your final paragraph but got distracted. (New rule: never try to compose a post while you have a chatty 6-year-old bouncing around you.) I also fixed an omission in my post below. From: g...@gnusystems.ca Sent: 23-Jun-20 08:26 To: