Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Logic is Social

2014-06-27 Thread Helmut Raulien
Hi, i have not read the text by Peirce, but wonder, what social might have to do with logic, because many, if not most social structures are collusions (common illusions), such as myths, that are rather made up to create an impression of logic, where there is none, in order to cope with

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Logic is Social

2014-06-27 Thread Gary Richmond
Helmut, I would recommend that you read Peirce on this, beginning perhaps with the two papers mentioned in my post yesterday, then moving on to his papers after 1900 on pragmatism. In a word, Peirce argues this point best. Best, Gary *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking*

Re: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Logic is Social

2014-06-27 Thread Benjamin Udell
Helmut, list Peirce's argument is that induction and hypothetical inference depend for their general rationale or justification on their correctability in the course of research, and the idea of that correctability depends on the idea of a community indefinite in size, with the prospect of

Re: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Logic is Social

2014-06-27 Thread Gary Richmond
Ben, Helmut, list, Ben, a very nice, succinct summary! Best, Gary *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Benjamin Udell bud...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Helmut, list

Re: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Logic is Social

2014-06-27 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Also it will be more and more the case that minds will arrive at similar or complementary conclusions, rendering claims of individuals to originality less and less credible. I wonder at what point this will alter the way in which we process common awareness. The wiki phenomenon is an obvious

[PEIRCE-L] The second law of thermodynamics

2014-06-27 Thread Stephen C. Rose
How fixed is the scientific argument for this law? Certainly in this century there have been some who have chipped away at the idea of entropy as a fixed star in an otherwise fallible (subject to revision) scientific universe. And I am unaware of where Peirce stood on this matter. Were his notions

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Triadic Philosophy Introduction

2014-06-27 Thread Stephen C. Rose
I am not sure what you are saying. Non-idolatry in my view is the supreme value of all and underlies all other good values. This means it can modify, condition, adjust, trump or accentuate one's consideration. If you mean that is the strong conclusion. The premise as I read it is that time has

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Logic Is Social

2014-06-27 Thread Jon Awbrey
Stephen, Gary, List, These would be the passages that always come most readily to my mind in this connection: Definition Of Logic http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2012/06/01/c-s-peirce-%E2%80%A2-on-the-definition-of-logic/ Logic As Semiotic

Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Logic is Social

2014-06-27 Thread Helmut Raulien
Yes, thank you, Ben! I am a bit culture-pessimistic because of the news. Correcting errors in a worldwide close-to-ideal communication community is a good idea. I think, I sympathize with Apel (ultimate explanation of discourse ethics) and Habermas. There should be a semiotics of fallacy-signs, I

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Logic Is Social

2014-06-27 Thread Gary Moore
Thank you! Gary C. Moore On Friday, June 27, 2014 1:54 PM, Jon Awbrey jawb...@att.net wrote: Stephen, Gary, List, These would be the passages that always come most readily to my mind in this connection: Definition Of Logic

Re: Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Logic is Social

2014-06-27 Thread Gary Moore
Excellent! Gary C. Moore On Friday, June 27, 2014 2:00 PM, Helmut Raulien h.raul...@gmx.de wrote: Yes, thank you, Ben! I am a bit culture-pessimistic because of the news. Correcting errors in a worldwide close-to-ideal communication community is a good idea. I think, I sympathize with

[PEIRCE-L] Re: The second law of thermodynamics

2014-06-27 Thread Stephen C. Rose
This may add to the discussion: 47. But it may be asked whether if there were an element of real chance in the universe it must not occasionally be productive of signal effects such as could not pass unobserved. In answer to this question, without stopping to point out that there is an abundance