Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-04-16 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Jon:  

On review, this comment is of possible interest to a purist! 

> On Feb 27, 2024, at 12:26 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt  
> wrote:
> 
> JAS: Every explicitly scribed EG is a replica (instance), a sinsign (token) 
> of a peculiar kind that embodies a legisign (type).
> 
> JLRC: Frankly, I fail to find a connection between this stance regarding the 
> existential graphs and the prior development of the metaphysics of substance 
> of 1868. This reading of token and type is novel. 
> 
> Peirce does not introduce the terminology of qualisign/sinsign/legisign and 
> tone/token/type until 1903 and 1906, respectively, so I am puzzled by your 
> reference to something from nearly four decades earlier. In any case, there 
> is nothing novel about this reading, it is a well-known aspect of his 
> speculative grammar within the normative science of logic as semeiotic. 


The 1868 notions from metaphysics remain foundational today.  History has not 
not changed these foundational arguments and the organization of these semes 
and semantics.

Cheers
Jerry 

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Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-03-03 Thread John F Sowa
Jon, List,

I don't have time to respond right now.  But  there are two points that are 
true for every version of modal logic from Aristotle to the Scholastics to 
Peirce and to the latest and greatest versions of today:

1. For every version of modal logic, there is some reason WHY certain worlds 
(or contexts within a world) are possible or necessary or not.

2. The postulates or whatever statements are asserted about that world add that 
additional information.

There is more to say, but those two statements are true.   Peirce said a great 
deal more in many ways about many kinds of possibilities in his many years of 
MSS, publications, reports, etc.  There is no need for him to use the word 
'modal' in those discussions.  That is implicit.

In fact, every branch of science and engineering is about possible 
interpretations (science) and possible designs (engineering).  Every thought 
about what to do when you or Peirce or anybody else gets up in the morning is a 
thought about the possible world before you or them.

CP has 1072 occurrences of the word 'possible'.  Every such sentence is a 
sentence in modal logic.  Any version of modal logic that is adequate for 
supporting ordinary English must be able to represent all of them.

That was the goal for the IKL logic.  I believe that was the goal for Peirce's 
Delta graphs:  support the logic necessary for pragmaticism.  That implies 
every version of science, including all the practical sciences -- and daily 
life.  A proof of pragmaticism was the primary goal of Peirce's final decade, 
and everything he wrote must be evaluated according to its utility in 
supporting it.

John
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Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-03-03 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List:

JFS: The first is that all modern versions of modal logic after C. I. Lewis
(including those based on post-1970 methods) are consistent with or
variations of one or more of the versions specified by Lewis.


Indeed, Lewis specified *S1*-*S5* in 1932, of which only *S4* and *S5* are
normal modal logics that include distributive axiom K, which is named for
Kripke. Feys specified *T* in 1937 by subtracting axiom 4 from *S4*, and
Von Wright specified *M* in 1951, which was later proved to be equivalent
to *T*. Lemmon offered simplified specifications for *S1*-*S5 *and *T* in
1957, along with a new system *S0.5* that matches *T* except that instead
of all theorems being necessarily true, only tautologies are necessarily
true. *B* is named for Brouwer and is an alternative to *S4* since both
contain *T* and are contained in *S5*, but neither contains the other.
Pollock specified *P* (my suggested name) in 1967, which matches *S0.5* and
*T* except that iterated modalities are prohibited.

JFS: But the papers of Delta graphs can represent more information about
each world, including the reasons why it happens to be possible, actual,
necessary, or impossible. ... The specifications about papers in L376 would
allow a tree structure of papers.


Again, the only purpose that Peirce states in R L436 for needing to add a
Delta part to EGs is "in order to deal with modals," which he consistently
defines elsewhere as propositions involving possibility or
necessity/certainty. There is no evidence in the 19 extant pages of R L436
(or elsewhere) that he expects Delta EGs to address other kinds of
modality, incorporate any kind of metalanguage, or involve "a tree
structure."

Peirce also does not say nor imply in R L436 that the "many papers" are
unique to Delta. In fact, as described there, they are equally applicable
to Alpha, Beta, and Gamma. We know this because he discusses in some
earlier writings the idea that an individual page represents only a *portion
*of the much larger sheet of assertion or phemic sheet, namely, the part
that "is before the common attention" of the utterer and interpreter at any
given time.

CSP: Two parties are, in our make-believe, feigned to be concerned in the
scribing of graphs; the one called the Graphist, the other the interpreter.
Namely, although the sheet that is actually employed may be quite small, we
make believe that the so-called sheet of assertion is only a particular
region, or area, of an immense surface; namely, the former is that part of
the latter that falls within the field of view of the interpreter. Upon the
great surface the Graphist alone has the power to scribe any graph; while
he scribes what he sees fit. The interpreter, for his part, has the power,
with more or less effort, to move the graph-instances about as he pleases,
so long as he keeps them separate from one another, so that no two shall
touch. In particular, he can move such ones as he likes and as many as he
likes into his field of view, the sheet of assertion; or he can move them
away. We further conceive that this feigned sensible state of things is the
icon or emblem of a mental state of things. Namely, the immense surface
with the graphs scribed upon it is the image of the interpreter’s
experience, while the sheet of assertion, his field of view is the image of
his field of attention. His experience is forced upon him, while he attends
to what he pleases, if he puts forth sufficient effort. (R 280, c. 1905)


CSP: Moreover, the Phemic Sheet iconizes the Universe of Discourse, since
it more immediately represents a field of Thought, or Mental Experience,
which is itself directed to the Universe of Discourse, and considered as a
sign, denotes that Universe. Moreover, it [is because it must be
understood] *as *being directed to that Universe, that it is iconized by
the Phemic Sheet. So, on the principle that logicians call "the *Nota notae*"
that the sign of anything, X, is itself a sign of the very same X, the
Phemic Sheet, in representing the field of attention, represents the
general object of that attention, the Universe of Discourse. This being the
case, the continuity of the Phemic Sheet in those places, where, nothing
being scribed, no *particular *attention is paid, is the most appropriate
Icon possible of the continuity of the Universe of Discourse--where it only
receives *general *attention as that Universe--that is to say of the
continuity in experiential appearance of the Universe, relatively to any
objects represented as belonging to it. (CP 4.561n, 1908)


In the complete absence of any exact quotations from Peirce spelling out
what (if anything) he had in mind for Delta EGs *beyond *dealing with
modals, any proposed candidate going farther than that can only be offered
as a hypothesis, not treated as a definitive specification. I am still
wondering exactly how yours would represent the five modal propositions
that he wrote in his Logic Notebook, if not exactly as he scribed their 

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-03-02 Thread John F Sowa
Jon,

There are several points that must be considered.  The first is that all modern 
versions of modal logic after C. I. Lewis (including those based on post-1970 
methods) are consistent with or variations of one or more of the versions 
specified by Lewis).  That includes the versions of modal logic supported by 
the IKL logic of 2006.   Further qualifiers such as wishing, hoping, fearing, 
specified in Holy Scriptures. . . may be ADDED to the specifications that 
determine possibility, actuality, or necessity.

Second, Lewis was inspired by Peirce's 1903 specifications, and no one knows 
how many other MSS Lewis may have read.  But Lewis adopted the much more 
readable basic operators, represented by □ and ◇.  For readability, they 
correspond to the words 'necessary' and 'possible' in English or their 
equivalents in other languages.

Third, all of Peirce's 1903 combinations can be represented by combinations of 
those two symbols and negation.  But the papers of Delta graphs can represent 
more information about each world, including the reasons why it happens to be 
possible, actual, necessary, or impossible.  That is also true of the worlds 
specified by Hintikka, Dunn, IKL, and others.  The specifications of those 
worlds can also add further information beyond just those two operators plus 
negation.

Fourth, more issues of modality related to Peirce and modern variations were 
discussed at a workshop in Bogota hosted by invitation of Zalamea.  Some of the 
presentations were published in the Journal of Applied Logics 5:5, 2018.  
http://www.collegepublications.co.uk/downloads/ifcolog00025.pdf . Others in the 
Journal Zalamea edited,  Cuadernos de Sistemática Peirceana 8, 2016. 
https://ucaldas.academia.edu/CuadernosSistem%C3%A1ticaPeirceana .  (Although 
this version is dated 2016, it was delayed by late submissions and editing 
until 2019.)

Fifth, Risteen's background was significant.   He was a former student of 
Peirce's at Johns Hopkins, and he was a paid assistant to Peirce for 
definitions in the Century Dictionary from S to Z.  His most important 
contribution (at least for Delta graphs) was his note about Cayley's 
mathematical trees for the dictionary entry and in the discussions with Peirce 
in December 1911.  It would have been wonderful to have a YouTube of their 
discussions on 3 Dec. 1911.

The specifications about papers in L376 would allow a tree structure of papers. 
 Risteen's knowledge of mathematical trees is a likely reason why Peirce had 
invited him to visit in December and why he was writing that letter to him 
shortly after the visit.

And note the very strange coincidence that occurred shortly after Peirce began 
the letter L376:  Juliette had washed and scrubbed the floor in December after 
a visitor had left.  There were papers on the floor.  Peirce slipped on the 
floor in an unusual fall that caused the kind of injury that occurs in a 
twisting motion.  And the injury took six months to heal.

Scientists, engineers, and crime investigators do not believe in strange 
coincidences that involve two or more unusual causes.  They search for a hidden 
connection.

John


From: "Jon Alan Schmidt" 

List:

As I continue contemplating my updated candidate for Delta EGs (see earlier 
posts below), I am finding that, in conjunction with the laws and facts 
semantics (LFS) developed by Dunn and Goble, it is very helpful for explicating 
the effects of adding various modal axioms to classical logic. For example, the 
distribution axiom K = □(p → q) → (□p → □q) that is included in all so-called 
"normal" modal logics is illustrated by the fact that if p → q is on every 
sheet for a possible state of things (PST) and p is also on every PST sheet, 
then q is likewise on every PST sheet or can be derived on any PST sheet where 
it is initially missing. As I have mentioned before, other axioms assign 
different properties of the binary alternativeness/accessibility relation (AR) 
between the actual state of things (AST) and any PSTs, as well as the latter 
and their higher-order PSTs when there are iterated modalities.

- Serial, axiom D = □p → ◇p, or ◇⊤; every law-graph on the AST sheet is a 
fact-graph on at least one PST sheet, and any graph that can be derived from 
the blank on the AST sheet can also be derived from the blank on at least one 
PST sheet.
- Reflexive, axiom T = □p → p, or p → ◇p; every law-graph on the AST sheet is 
also a fact-graph on the AST sheet, and every fact-graph on the AST sheet is a 
fact-graph on at least one PST sheet.
- Symmetric, axiom B = ◇□p → p, or p → □◇p; every law-graph on any PST sheet is 
a fact-graph on the AST sheet, and every fact-graph on the AST sheet is a 
fact-graph on at least one second-order PST sheet for every first-order PST 
sheet.
- Transitive, axiom 4 = □p → □□p, or ◇◇p → ◇p; every law-graph on the AST sheet 
is a law-graph on every PST sheet, and every fact-graph on a second-order 

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-03-02 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
List:

As I continue contemplating my updated candidate for Delta EGs (see earlier
posts below), I am finding that, in conjunction with the laws and facts
semantics (LFS) developed by Dunn and Goble, it is very helpful for
explicating the effects of adding various modal axioms to classical logic.
For example, the distribution axiom K = □(*p* → *q*) → (□*p* → □*q*) that
is included in all so-called "normal" modal logics is illustrated by the
fact that if *p* → *q* is on every sheet for a possible state of things
(PST) and *p* is also on every PST sheet, then *q* is likewise on every PST
sheet or can be derived on any PST sheet where it is initially missing. As
I have mentioned before, other axioms assign different properties of the
binary alternativeness/accessibility relation (AR) between the actual state
of things (AST) and any PSTs, as well as the latter and their higher-order
PSTs when there are iterated modalities.

   - Serial, axiom D = □*p* → ◇*p*, or ◇⊤; every law-graph on the AST sheet
   is a fact-graph on at least one PST sheet, and any graph that can be
   derived from the blank on the AST sheet can also be derived from the blank
   on at least one PST sheet.
   - Reflexive, axiom T = □*p* → *p*, or *p* → ◇*p*; every law-graph on the
   AST sheet is also a fact-graph on the AST sheet, and every fact-graph on
   the AST sheet is a fact-graph on at least one PST sheet.
   - Symmetric, axiom B = ◇□*p* → *p*, or *p* → □◇*p*; every law-graph on
   any PST sheet is a fact-graph on the AST sheet, and every fact-graph on the
   AST sheet is a fact-graph on at least one second-order PST sheet for every
   first-order PST sheet.
   - Transitive, axiom 4 = □*p* → □□*p*, or ◇◇*p* → ◇*p*; every law-graph
   on the AST sheet is a law-graph on every PST sheet, and every fact-graph on
   a second-order PST sheet is a fact-graph on at least one first-order PST
   sheet.
   - Euclidean, axiom 5 = ◇□*p* → □*p*, or ◇*p* → □◇*p*; every law-graph on
   a PST sheet is a law-graph on the AST sheet, and every fact-graph on a PST
   sheet is a fact-graph on at least one second-order PST sheet for every
   first-order PST sheet.

LFS effectively stipulates that the AR is serial because every law-graph on
the AST sheet is a fact-graph on *every* PST sheet--its basic principle is
that possibility is *defined* as consistency with the laws of the AST--and
any classical tautology can be derived from the blank on *every *sheet. The
AR properties and their corresponding axioms are then combined in different
ways for different formal systems--serial for *D* (deontic logic),
reflexive for *T* (or *P* with no iterated modalities), reflexive and
symmetric for *B*, reflexive and transitive for *S4*, or reflexive and
euclidean for *S5*.

Any relation that is reflexive is also serial, while any relation that is
reflexive and euclidean is also symmetric and transitive, and therefore an
equivalence. As a result, in *S5*, every law-graph on the AST sheet is
likewise a law-graph on every PST sheet, every second-order PST sheet, and
vice-versa--i.e., every PST of any order has the very same laws as the AST. On
the other hand, in *S4*, every law-graph on the AST sheet is likewise a
law-graph on every PST sheet and every second-order PST sheet, but there
might be *additional* law-graphs on those PST sheets--the set of relevant
laws never *shrinks *when going to a higher-order PST, but it can *grow*.
Applied to temporal logic, this is reminiscent of Peirce's hyperbolic
cosmology in accordance with synechism.

CSP: At present, the course of events is approximately determined by law.
In the past that approximation was less perfect; in the future it will be
more perfect. The tendency to obey laws has always been and always will be
growing. We look back toward a point in the infinitely distant past when
there was no law but mere indeterminacy; we look forward to a point in the
infinitely distant future when there will be no indeterminacy or chance but
a complete reign of law. But at any assignable date in the past, however
early, there was already some tendency toward uniformity; and at any
assignable date in the future there will be some slight aberrancy from law.
(CP 1.409, EP 1:277, 1887-8)

CSP: The state of things in the infinite past is chaos, tohu bohu, the
nothingness of which consists in the total absence of regularity. The state
of things in the infinite future is death, the nothingness of which
consists in the complete triumph of law and absence of all spontaneity.
Between these, we have on *our* side a state of things in which there is
some absolute spontaneity counter to all law, and some degree of conformity
to law, which is constantly on the increase owing to the growth of *habit*.
(CP 8.317, 1891)


In other words, the universe is constantly proceeding from a PST with only
facts (no laws) toward a PST with only laws (no facts), while the AST
always has *both* facts and laws.


Regards,

Jon

On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 12:50 PM Jon 

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-29 Thread John F Sowa
John,

Some observations:  For any theory of any kind with any logic of any kind, 
axioms are always stated in an if-then form.   The if-part (shaded) states the 
condition, and the then part states the conclusion.  Even definitions are 
stated as if-then statements in EGs.  For example:

"If x=y and y=z, then x=z."
"Every triangle has three sides" is equivalent to "If x is a triangle, x has 
three sides."

In that example, the proposition (pheme) about equality is an axiom, since it 
must be true of every possible world.  But the pheme about triangles is a 
postulate that is true in geometry, but it might not be a postulate in some 
other possible world.  The distinction between axioms and postulates is one 
that Peirce adopted from Euclid, but modern logicians use the word 'axiom' for 
the starting assumptions of any theory.  They rarely use the word 'postulate.

After re-reading Don Roberts' chapter on Gamma graphs (which I hadn't read for 
years), I realize that there is no conflict between that chapter and his 
writings about Delta graphs in L376.

And L376 is completely consistent with the IKL logic of 2006.  But IKL has some 
features that go beyond L376.  Anything stated in Delta graphs may be mapped to 
IKL, but some IKL statements cannot be mapped to Delta graphs.

Furthermore, what Peirce wrote about Delta graphs in L376 is consistent with 
his 1903 version of modal logic in every possible world.  But the "papers" of 
L376 allow the "postulates" in the margins to state additional information 
about the nested graphs.  For example that the nested graphs, may be wished, 
hoped, feared, imagined, or occurring at some time in the past, present, future 
in the real word or in heaven, hell, Wonderland, or the Looking Glass.

Wonderland, for example, would be a possible world that could not be actualized 
-- as Peirce said in CP 8.192, stated below.

John


From: "Jon Alan Schmidt" 

List:

I need to amend my previous post explaining my updated candidate for Delta EGs 
to "deal with modals" (see underline/strikethrough below). It still combines 
the graphs scribed in R 339:[340r] for representing the actual state of things 
(AST) with the "many papers" concept in R L376 for representing different 
possible states of things (PST) and the "red pencil" improvement in R 514 for 
distinguishing PST sheets with shaded margins from the AST sheet that lacks 
this feature. However, it is not the case that a PST sheet has its law-graphs 
in its shaded margin and its fact-graphs in its unshaded area; in fact, there 
is no requirement for any particular graphs to be in the margin of a PST 
sheet--the implied antecedent, from which all the EGs in the unshaded area 
follow necessarily, is "this PST is actualized."

Instead, just like the AST, law-graphs on a PST are those where the outermost 
portion of the outermost line of compossibility (LoC) is in a shaded area, and 
fact-graphs are those with no LoCs. Moreover, every graph on the AST with at 
least one LoC is reproduced on PST sheets, except with its outermost LoC 
removed. If that LoC is shaded, then the graph without it appears on every PST 
sheet; and if that LoC is unshaded, then the graph without it appears on at 
least one PST sheet.

With these corrections and clarifications, Delta EGs can still be used to 
implement any of the standard formal systems of modal logic, with iterated 
modalities requiring another set of PST sheets for every first-order PST sheet 
that includes any graphs with LoCs. However, according to Peirce, pragmaticism 
considers the only real possibilities to be facts in PSTs that are directly 
alternative/accessible to the AST.

CSP: That a possibility which should never be actualized, (in the sense of 
having a bearing upon conduct that might conceivably be contemplated,) would be 
a nullity is a form of stating the principle of pragmaticism. One obvious 
consequence is that the potential, or really possible, must always refer to the 
actual. The possible is what can become actual. A possibility which could not 
be actualized would be absurd, of course. (R 288:[134-135], 1905)

This suggests dispensing with iterated modalities, such that letters on the AST 
sheet are never attached to more than one LoC, no LoCs appear on any PST 
sheets, and no second-order PST sheets are needed. An additional benefit is 
that the graphs on PST sheets could then be scribed more informatively by using 
lines of identity and attached names as in Beta, instead of just letters as in 
Alpha, as long as there is a way to match up the AST letters with the PST 
graphs. Peirce further states that pragmaticism requires every law-proposition 
for the AST to be a subjunctive conditional whose antecedent is a real 
possibility; formally, □(p → q) ∧ ◇p.

CSP: But what the answer to the pragmatist's self-question [how could law ever 
reasonably affect human conduct?] does require is that the law should be a 
truth 

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-29 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
List:

I need to amend my previous post explaining my updated candidate for Delta
EGs to "deal with modals" (see underline/strikethrough below). It
still combines
the graphs scribed in R 339:[340r] for representing the actual state of
things (AST) with the "many papers" concept in R L376 for representing
different possible states of things (PST) and the "red pencil" improvement
in R 514 for distinguishing PST sheets with shaded margins from the AST
sheet that lacks this feature. However, it is *not *the case that a PST
sheet has its law-graphs in its shaded margin and its fact-graphs in its
unshaded area; in fact, there is no requirement for any particular graphs
to be in the margin of a PST sheet--the implied antecedent, from which all
the EGs in the unshaded area follow necessarily, is "this PST is
actualized."

Instead, just like the AST, law-graphs on a PST are those where the
outermost portion of the outermost line of compossibility (LoC) is in a
shaded area, and fact-graphs are those with no LoCs. Moreover, every graph
on the AST with at least one LoC is reproduced on PST sheets, except with
its outermost LoC removed. If that LoC is shaded, then the graph without it
appears on every PST sheet; and if that LoC is unshaded, then the graph
without it appears on at least one PST sheet.

With these corrections and clarifications, Delta EGs can still be used to
implement any of the standard formal systems of modal logic, with iterated
modalities requiring another set of PST sheets for every first-order PST
sheet that includes any graphs with LoCs. However, according to Peirce,
pragmaticism considers the only *real* possibilities to be facts in PSTs
that are *directly* alternative/accessible to the AST.

CSP: That a possibility which *should* never be actualized, (in the sense
of having a bearing upon conduct that might conceivably be contemplated,)
would be a nullity is a form of stating the principle of pragmaticism. One
obvious consequence is that the potential, or really possible, must always
*refer* to the actual. The possible is what *can become actual*. A
possibility which could not be actualized would be absurd, of course. (R
288:[134-135], 1905)


This suggests dispensing with iterated modalities, such that letters on the
AST sheet are never attached to more than one LoC, no LoCs appear on any
PST sheets, and no second-order PST sheets are needed. An additional
benefit is that the graphs on PST sheets could then be scribed more
informatively by using lines of identity and attached names as in Beta,
instead of just letters as in Alpha, as long as there is a way to match up
the AST letters with the PST graphs. Peirce further states that
pragmaticism requires every law-proposition for the AST to be a
*subjunctive* conditional whose antecedent is a real possibility; formally,
□(*p* → *q*) ∧ ◇*p*.

CSP: But what the answer to the pragmatist's self-question [how could law
ever reasonably affect human conduct?] does require is that the law should
be a truth expressible as a conditional proposition whose antecedent and
consequent express experiences *in a future tense*, and further, that, as
long as the law retains the character of a law, there should be possible
occasions in an indefinite future when events of the kind described in the
antecedent may come to pass. Such, then, *ought* to be our conception of
law, whether it has been so or not. (CP 8.192, 1905)


The upshot is that, other than the tautologies of classical logic, every
law-proposition for the AST is a *strict* implication, □(*p* → *q*); its
antecedent, *p*, is a fact-proposition in at least one PST; and the
corresponding *material* implication, *p* → *q*, is a fact-proposition in
*every* PST.* Peirce himself anticipates this by suggesting that a strict
implication is logically equivalent to a multitude of material implications.

CSP: An ordinary Philonian conditional proposition [strict implication],
having a range of possibility and asserting that "If *A* is true, *B* is
true,'' that is, that in every possible state of things in which *A* is
true, *B* is likewise true, may be regarded as a simultaneous assertion of
a multitude of propositions each asserting that if [there is] a single
state of things in which *A* is true, *B* is true [in that state of
things], each therefore being a *consequentia de inesse* [material
implication]. (NEM 4:278, c. 1895)


The specific formal system that is implemented with these restrictions is
one first suggested by William T. Parry in 1953 and fully specified by John
L. Pollock in 1967 (https://www.jstor.org/stable/2270778). It includes
modal axioms K and T, as well as all the theorems of standard systems *S1*-
*S5*, *T*, and *B* that have no iterated modalities, which they have in
common--as Pollock notes, these constitute "the core of theorems that
everyone accepts" (p. 363). Again, the only *absolute* necessities are the
tautologies of classical logic; all other law-propositions for the AST are

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-26 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Jon, List

> On Feb 23, 2024, at 5:22 PM, John F Sowa  wrote:
> 
> 
> JLRC> First, the question of modern modal symbolic logic is remote from 
> probability theory and even remoter from the Peircian notion of “qualisign, 
> sinsign, legisign”  
> 
> That is true of Peirce's modal logic of 1903, which was the mainstream of 
> modal logic for most of the 20th C and which is still taught in introductory 
> courses.  But Peirce became very interested in probability theory, as shown 
> in his writings in the Logic Notebook.   The that-operator from 1898 and the 
> "papers" of June and December 1911 can support the kind of metalanguage that 
> is widely used today for computational and theoretical methods for either or 
> both possibilities and probabilities.  
> 

I respectably disagree with breadth and depth of this justification of the 
meanings to be associated with the sign-generating terms, qualisign, sin-sign 
and legisign. These three terms all refer to the metaphysics of Being paper of 
1868, don’t they?

The concept of a sign is intrinsically singular, yet any real object in the 
world offers many many necessary and possible signs. Thus, the need for a 
concept of “sin-sign” as a singular entity.  
Corresponding to this need is an exact name for the object under inquiry, that 
is, a legisign. 
The quali-sign determines the attributes of the sin-sign and the name for the 
legisign, does it not? 

My point is that these three terms point to the metaphysical nature of the 
“Being" of the subject of a sentence that specifies an existent object. These 
terms are necessarily deterministic in form and character in order to specify 
the identity of the object.  

Please note that this interpretation of the semiology of the CSP’s semantics 
also addresses the distinction between the copulative grammar of sentences from 
the pseudo-first order logic of modern probability theories, discrete or 
continuous. 

The fact that the  “computational and theoretical methods” used today are based 
on probability theories lacks  relevancy to the situational logic developed by 
CSP.  The terms of the trichotomy were defined by CSP to ascribe meaning to the 
metaphysical “being” of objects with precision, not to merely describe a 
convenient possibility for engineering purposes.

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Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-25 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
List:

The sole reason that Peirce expresses in R L376 (1911 Dec 6) for needing to
add a Delta part to EGs is "in order to deal with modals," which he
explicitly and repeatedly defines elsewhere as propositions involving
possibility or necessity. As I spell out in detail in my forthcoming paper,
"Peirce and Modal Logic: Delta Existential Graphs and Pragmaticism," the
five modal EGs scribed in R 339:[340r] (1909 Jan 7) can serve as a basis
for implementing various formal systems of modal logic. The sheet
represents the actual state of things (AST), heavy lines of compossibility
(LoCs) represent possible states of things (PSTs), letters attached to LoCs
denote atomic non-modal propositions that would be true or false in those
PSTs, and new transformation rules for LoCs correspond to various modal
axioms for reasoning *about *those PSTs.

A new wrinkle occurred to me yesterday, thanks to my exchanges with John
Sowa. Each PST has its own separate sheet, and together, the AST sheet and
all the PST sheets--potentially, an infinite number of them--comprise the
"many papers" that Peirce mentions in R L376. In accordance with the
Dunn/Goble semantics using Hintikka's model sets as described in my other
forthcoming paper, "Laws and Facts Semantics for Modal Logic," the AST and
every PST has both *laws *and *facts*, with the binary
alternativeness/accessibility relation (AR) defined as requiring every
law-proposition for the AST to be a fact-proposition in every PST. On the
AST sheet, law-graphs have oddly enclosed LoCs and fact-graphs have no
LoCs. Each PST sheet has a red line just inside its edges as proposed in R
514 (1909)--or rather, as I suggested yesterday, a shaded margin with its
law-graphs, the remaining unshaded area with its fact-graphs, and (mostly)
the usual transformation rules for reasoning *within* that PST.

Each modal axiom assigns a specific property to the AR, which in the
Dunn/Goble semantics dictates containment relations between the different
sets of law-propositions and fact-propositions. For example, Peirce's
erasure/insertion rule for broken cuts in Gamma EGs implements axiom T,
making the AR *reflexive*--every law-graph on the AST sheet or any PST
sheet is also a fact-graph on that same sheet. This is consistent with the
usual permission for iterating graphs from the shaded margin of a PST sheet
to its unshaded area, so for formal systems where the AR is *not
*reflexive--such
as deontic logic, where possibility and necessity are replaced with
permission and obligation--this specific transformation is prohibited on
PST sheets. Another example is axiom 4, which makes the AR *transitive*--every
law-graph on the AST sheet is also a law-graph on every PST sheet, so every
graph with an oddly enclosed LoC on the AST sheet is reproduced without
that LoC in the shaded margin of every PST sheet.

With this specification, Peirce's five modal propositions in R 339:[340r]
are represented on PST sheets as follows.

   1. ◇*p* = *p* is on at least one PST sheet.
   2. ¬◇¬*p* = □*p* = *p* is on every PST sheet.
   3. ◇*p* ∧ ◇*q* = *p* is on at least one PST sheet, and *q* is on at
   least one PST sheet.
   4. ◇(*p* ∧ *q*) = *p* and *q* are together on at least one PST sheet.
   5. ◇*p* ∧ ◇*q* ∧ ¬◇(*p* ∧ *q*) = *p* is on at least one PST sheet, and
   *q* is on at least one PST sheet, but *p* and *q* are not together on
   any PST sheet.

It gets more complicated for iterated modalities, where a non-modal
proposition (such as *p* or *q*) is within the scope of more than one modal
operator (such as ◇ for possibility or □ for necessity). The letter would
then be attached to more than one LoC on the AST sheet and at least one LoC
on each PST sheet, which would have its own set of multiple PST
sheets--potentially, an infinite number of them--and so on. Peirce scribed
several Gamma EGs with iterated modalities while preparing for the 1903
Lowell Lectures (R S-1:[74], LF 2/2:398), but there are reasons to suspect
that he ultimately would have dispensed with them in accordance with
pragmaticism. That is a subject for another post.

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian
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Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-24 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List:

I had an epiphany of sorts while I was initially drafting this reply. For
now, I will just respond to a few specific points, but in a later post, I
intend to propose a way forward for Delta EGs that could be truly
collaborative instead of competitive--both/and, not either/or.

JFS: Since the content of L376 is very different from his sources and from
his own writings before and after, that provides very little guidance.
That's why nobody was able to interpret L376 to determine what Peirce wrote
and how he intended to use what he was specifying.


The content of R L376 is perfectly consistent with Peirce's other writings
about EGs. The only reason why nobody has been able to determine
definitively what he had in mind for Delta is because the manuscript breaks
off before he gets around to distinguishing it from the other parts by
explaining how it deals with modals.

JFS: The second way of interpreting Peirce is to look backwards from the
developments in logic in the century or more after Peirce and interpreting
what he wrote in comparison to ALL developments in the same or similar
subjects. The words 'metalanguage' and 'metalogic' were coined by Tarski
and Carnap a few decades after Peirce died.


This is not so much an alternative interpretation of Peirce as a
recognition of his prescience with respect to subsequent developments in
logic. His 1898 example indeed anticipates metalanguage and metalogic,
"assert[ing] something about a proposition without asserting the
proposition itself" (RLT 151). However, I still see nothing in R 514 nor in
R L376 about *modal *applications of these concepts, only their
*classical *application
to a conditional proposition--it does not assert the antecedent itself,
only that *if *it is true, then the consequent is *also *true. From that
standpoint, ordinary Alpha EGs are metalogical because they often assert
propositions about propositions.

JFS: But the that-operator in RLT (1898) can support the methods they used
for metalanguage. It is logically identical to writing postulates in the
margin of a paper in R514 (June 1911) and to the "papers" of a phemic sheet
in L376 (December 1911).


The that-operator in RLT is *not* "logically identical to" the "red pencil"
improvement in R 514, nor the "many papers" remark in R L376. In fact,
Peirce's very next example in RLT is "That you are a good girl is false,"
leading directly to the convention that enclosing a proposition within "a
lightly drawn oval," such that it "is merely fenced off from the field of
assertion without any assertion being explicitly made concerning it," is
"an elliptical [no pun intended?] way of saying that it is false" (RLT
151-152).

What Peirce describes in R 514 is converting the entire sheet into nested
cuts, thus asserting a conditional proposition. The margin is the outer
close (antecedent), where "whatever is scribed is merely asserted to be
possible," such as mathematical postulates. The area within the red line is
the inner close (consequent), where whatever is scribed follows necessarily
from what is in the margin, such as mathematical theorems.

What Peirce describes in R L376 is treating the "many papers" as different
portions of the phemic sheet to which the utterer and interpreter give
their "common attention" at different times, where "some of those pieces
relate to one subject and part to another." In other words, each individual
page represents a different subuniverse of discourse within the overall
universe of discourse.

However, what occurred to me today is that the latter two approaches are
compatible *with each other*. Again, I expect to say a lot more about this
in the near future.

JFS: What he [Peirce] wrote about modals in 1903 represents his views about
modals in 1903. But 1903 was the end of the line for earlier projects,
especially lexicography (Century & Baldwin dictionaries) and Minute Logic
(rejection).


Peirce still limits modal propositions to those asserting possibility or
necessity several years later, not long before he writes the letter to
Risteen.

CSP: Now assertions differ in *modality*,--a term which must be explained
at once. It refers to the different relations there may be between the
*affirmation
*of the state of things asserted and the *denial *of it, these different
relations distinguishing three different "modes" of assertion [including
"the mode of actuality," i.e., being "without modality"]. If a man says "It
may rain tomorrow," his assertion is in "the mode of possibility," because
it may be true that possibly it will rain tomorrow and, at the same time,
be true that possibly it will not rain tomorrow. Any assertion is said to
be made in the mode of possibility if, and only if, it is conceivable that
the affirmation and the denial of that which it so asserts should be both
at once true. ... On the other hand, an assertion is said to be made in
"the mode of necessity," if, and only if, the affirmation and the denial of
that which is so 

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-23 Thread John F Sowa
Jon, Jerry, List,

My interpretation of L376 depends on two ways of interpreting Peirce's L376.   
The first way is the one followed by most scholars:   Comparing the content to 
an MS to everything written by Peirce and his sources prior to the date of the 
MS and to everything written later by him.  Since the content of L376 is very 
different from his sources and from his own writings before and after, that 
provides very little guidance.  That's why nobody was able to interpret L376 to 
determine what Peirce wrote and how he intended to use what he was specifying.

JFS> The single most important innovation of Delta graphs is an operator for 
metalanguage or metalogic.

JAS> That is not what Peirce says about Delta EGs in the letter to Risteen. He 
simply states, "I shall now have to add a Delta part in order to deal with 
modals..."

That is true.

The second way of interpreting Peirce is to look backwards from the 
developments in logic in the century or more after Peirce and interpreting what 
he wrote in comparison to ALL developments in the same or similar subjects.   
The words 'metalanguage' and 'metalogic' were coined by Tarski and Carnap a few 
decades after Peirce died.

But the that-operator in RLT (1898) can support the methods they used for 
metalanguage.   It is logically identical to writing postulates in the margin 
of a paper in R514 (June 1911) and to the "papers" of a phemic sheet in L376 
(December 1911).   It is also identical to methods used by Hintikka and others 
from the 1970s and later.

It's not possible to interpret what Peirce intended in L376 with just the 
vocabulary he used.  It's likely that he would have coined more terminology if 
he had been able to finish that MS.  But his accident and the six months of 
morphine by the "quack" who treated him prevented him from finishing it and 
explaining his intentions and applications in detail.

JLRC> First, the question of modern modal symbolic logic is remote from 
probability theory and even remoter from the Peircian notion of “qualisign, 
sinsign, legisign”

That is true of Peirce's modal logic of 1903, which was the mainstream of modal 
logic for most of the 20th C and which is still taught in introductory courses. 
 But Peirce became very interested in probability theory, as shown in his 
writings in the Logic Notebook.   The that-operator from 1898 and the "papers" 
of June and December 1911 can support the kind of metalanguage that is widely 
used today for computational and theoretical methods for either or both 
possibilities and probabilities.

JLRC>  Is not the distinction between logic of syntax and the logic of 
semantics?   Is not the semantic gap in the meanings of signs was probably a 
constitutive factor in the categorization of signs, would you agree?

I agree that those distinctions are important.  But any operators for 
metalanguage, including Peirce's three versions, can be and are used to 
represent, reason about, and compute with representations for syntax and/or 
semantics of any notation of any kind.   See the many references in 
https://jfsowa.com/ikl .

That text, by me, is very short.  I wrote it as a guide to a wide range of 
documents from the 1980 to 2010.  I haven't added anything since then because 
the amount of publication is huge.  But it is still a useful guide to 30 years 
of developments, many of which take advantage of various methods of 
metalanguage.  And Peirce's three notations for metalanguage are logically 
equivalent to methods that have been reinvented in several versions since the 
1970s.

The second way is to look backwards from the developments in logic in the 
century or more after Peirce and interpreting what he wrote in comparison to 
ALL developments in the same or similar subjects.   From the perspective of the 
late 20th and 21st C, the specifications in RLT (1898), R514 (June 1911), and 
L376 (December 1911) define the that-operator of IKL.  That operator specifies 
20th and 21st C operations for metalanguage and metalogic.  That single 
operator, when added to first-order logic, supports a very powerful version of 
logic.

JAS> in the letter to Risteen. He simply states, "I shall now have to add a 
Delta part in order to deal with modals," and we do not have to guess at what 
he means by "modals" since he provides a straightforward definition elsewhere. 
"A modal proposition takes account of a whole range of possibility. According 
as it asserts something to be true or false throughout the whole range of 
possibility, it is necessary or impossible. According as it asserts something 
to be true or false within the range of possibility (not expressly including or 
excluding the existent state of things), it is possible or contingent" (CP 
2.323, EP 2:283, 1903).

What he wrote about modals in 1903 represents his views about modals in 1903.  
But 1903 was the end of the line for earlier projects, especially lexicography 
(Century & Baldwin dictionaries) and Minute Logic 

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-23 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Jerry, List:

JLRC: First, the question of modern modal symbolic logic is remote from
probability theory and even remoter from the Peircian notion of “qualisign,
sinsign, legisign”


Peirce developed Existential Graphs (EGs) as a diagrammatic notation for
formal systems of deductive logic. As such, within his architectonic
classification of the sciences, it falls under the hypothetical science of
mathematics, not the normative science of logic as semeiotic. That is why
EGs can be utilized in the primal positive science of phaneroscopy. The
chief advantage of EGs over algebraic notations for modern symbolic logic
is their iconicity. Every explicitly scribed EG is a replica (instance), a
sinsign (token) of a peculiar kind that embodies a legisign (type).

JLRC: Is not the distinction between logic of syntax and the logic of
semantics?


Could you please elaborate on exactly what you have in mind by "logic of
syntax" vs. "logic of semantics"? For EGs vs. algebraic notations
implementing formal systems of deductive logic (modal or otherwise), the
syntax is obviously very different, but the semantics is the same. More
generally, it seems to me that both syntax and semantics would have to do
with interpretants--for a proposition, syntax corresponds to its overall
interpretant by signifying its pure/continuous predicate, while semantics
perhaps corresponds to the interpretants of the individual
names/rhemes/semes that denote its subjects.

JLRC: The semantic gap in the meanings of signs was probably a constitutive
factor in the categorization of signs, would you agree?


Could you please elaborate on exactly what you have in mind by "the
semantic gap in the meanings of signs"? For Peirce, "meaning" is roughly
synonymous with "interpretant," but he also classifies signs on the basis
of their objects and relations.

JLRC: What particular texts of CSP were you referring to when you listed
five modal phrases?


I am referring to a specific page in Peirce's Logic Notebook (R 339:[340r],
LF 1:624, 1909 Jan 7) where he provides five EGs with their direct
translations into modal propositions. Here again is the image that I
included in my post last night.

[image: image.png]

In my post earlier today, I restated these five modal propositions using
modern standard notation--(1) ◇*p*, (2) ¬◇¬*p* = □*p*, (3) ◇*p* ∧ ◇*q*, (4)
◇(*p* ∧ *q*), and (5) ◇*p* ∧ ◇*q* ∧ ¬◇(*p* ∧ *q*); again, in each case, *p*
 and *q* are atomic non-modal propositions.

JLRC: Do either of you feel that your interpretations of "delta graphs"
bridge the yawning gaps between semiotics and semiology?


I doubt it since that is not the purpose of EGs.

Regards,

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On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 2:08 PM Jerry LR Chandler <
jerry_lr_chand...@icloud.com> wrote:

> Jon, John, List:
>
> Thanks to both of you for pushing the discourse toward the potential
> modern interpretations of CSP’s thoughts (semes?).
>
> I only have time for a couple of feedbacks, although your texts motivated
> deeper deliberations.
>
> 1. First, the question of modern modal symbolic logic is remote from
> probability theory and even remoter from the Peircian notion of “qualisign,
> sinsign, legisign”
>
> Is not the distinction between logic of syntax and the logic of
> semantics?  The semantic gap in the meanings of signs was probably a
> constitutive factor in the categorization of signs, would you agree?
>
> 2. Jon: What particular texts of CSP were you referring to when you listed
> five modal phrases?  I am more than a little skeptical that this is both
> sound and complete interpretations of CSP’s texts but I am open to
> persuasion!   You might look at my online paper, An Introduction to
> Chemical Information Theory, where I search for a Peircian approach from a
> Natural science perspective.
>
> 3. Do either of you feel that your interpretations of "delta graphs"
> bridge the yawning gaps between semiotics and semiology?
>
> Cheers
>
> Jerry
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Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-23 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Jon, John, List:

Thanks to both of you for pushing the discourse toward the potential modern 
interpretations of CSP’s thoughts (semes?).  

I only have time for a couple of feedbacks, although your texts motivated 
deeper deliberations.

1. First, the question of modern modal symbolic logic is remote from 
probability theory and even remoter from the Peircian notion of “qualisign, 
sinsign, legisign”

Is not the distinction between logic of syntax and the logic of semantics?  The 
semantic gap in the meanings of signs was probably a constitutive factor in the 
categorization of signs, would you agree?

2. Jon: What particular texts of CSP were you referring to when you listed five 
modal phrases?  I am more than a little skeptical that this is both sound and 
complete interpretations of CSP’s texts but I am open to persuasion!   You 
might look at my online paper, An Introduction to Chemical Information Theory, 
where I search for a Peircian approach from a Natural science perspective. 

3. Do either of you feel that your interpretations of "delta graphs" bridge the 
yawning gaps between semiotics and semiology?

Cheers

Jerry  


> On Feb 23, 2024, at 12:21 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt  
> wrote:
> 
> John, List:
> 
> I fully agree with your comment last week that "Peirce List is a 
> collaboration, not a competition," and I hope that you will receive this 
> response in that spirit. My questions are genuinely intended to help me (and 
> others) better understand your position, and I would appreciate direct 
> answers.
> 
> JFS: The single most important innovation of Delta graphs is an operator for 
> metalangage or metalogic.
> 
> That is not what Peirce says about Delta EGs in the letter to Risteen. He 
> simply states, "I shall now have to add a Delta part in order to deal with 
> modals," and we do not have to guess at what he means by "modals" since he 
> provides a straightforward definition elsewhere. "A modal proposition takes 
> account of a whole range of possibility. According as it asserts something to 
> be true or false throughout the whole range of possibility, it is necessary 
> or impossible. According as it asserts something to be true or false within 
> the range of possibility (not expressly including or excluding the existent 
> state of things), it is possible or contingent" (CP 2.323, EP 2:283, 1903). 
> Hence, the 1898 example--"That you are a good girl is much to be wished"--is 
> not what Peirce considered to be a modal proposition; only something like 
> "That you are a good girl is possible" would qualify.
> 
> Where exactly do you see anything about "an operator for metalanguage or 
> metalogic" in the letter to Risteen? Again, what does Peirce say in that text 
> that would not be fully applicable to Alpha, Beta, and Gamma EGs as he had 
> described them previously? Please provide exact quotations.
> 
> JFS: Although Peirce never developed it further (as far as I know), the 
> option of attaching a line of identity to an oval is exactly the same 
> operation as taking a sheet of paper, drawing a line around the nested text 
> (You are a good girl), and stating postulates in the margin (as in R514 and 
> L376).
> 
> It is not the same operation at all since "--is much to be wished" is not a 
> postulate from which "you are a good girl" follows necessarily. As I 
> explained before, Peirce's "red pencil" operation in R 514 effectively turns 
> each individual sheet of paper on which EGs are scribed into a conditional 
> proposition. Its physical edges and the red line drawn just inside them are 
> cuts, the latter nested within the former, so that the margin is the outer 
> close (antecedent) and the area within the red line is the inner close 
> (consequent). Any propositions in the margin (postulates) are "merely 
> asserted to be possible," and if they are all true, then all the propositions 
> within the red line (theorems) are also true. There is no "line of identity" 
> connecting the red line to the postulates in the margin.
> 
> Where exactly do you see anything about "stating postulates in the margin" in 
> R L376? Please provide exact quotations.
> 
> JFS: As for the five EGs from 1909, quoted below, none of them express modal 
> logic. All five of them can be translated to statements in first-order logic:
> 
> Those translations are incorrect. It is unambiguous from Peirce's own 
> handwritten translations that the EGs scribed on that Logic Notebook page are 
> not Beta graphs with heavy lines for indefinite individuals attached to 
> lowercase letters for general concepts being attributed to them. Instead, the 
> heavy lines are for "circumstances," and they are attached to lowercase 
> letters for propositions (as in Alpha) that would be true in them. There is 
> an analogy between quantifying predicates over subjects in first-order 
> predicate logic and quantifying propositions over possible states of things 
> in propositional modal logic--in Peirce's words, "The 

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-23 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List:

I fully agree with your comment last week that "Peirce List is a
collaboration, not a competition," and I hope that you will receive this
response in that spirit. My questions are genuinely intended to help me
(and others) better understand your position, and I would appreciate direct
answers.

JFS: The single most important innovation of Delta graphs is an operator
for metalangage or metalogic.


That is *not* what Peirce says about Delta EGs in the letter to Risteen. He
simply states, "I shall now have to add a *Delta *part in order to deal
with modals," and we do not have to guess at what he means by "modals"
since he provides a straightforward definition elsewhere. "A modal
proposition takes account of a whole range of possibility. According as it
asserts something to be true or false throughout the whole range of
possibility, it is *necessary *or *impossible*. According as it asserts
something to be true or false within the range of possibility (not
expressly including or excluding the existent state of things), it is *possible
*or *contingent*" (CP 2.323, EP 2:283, 1903). Hence, the 1898
example--"That you are a good girl is much to be wished"--is *not *what
Peirce considered to be a modal proposition; only something like "That you
are a good girl is possible" would qualify.

Where exactly do you see anything about "an operator for metalanguage or
metalogic" in the letter to Risteen? Again, what does Peirce say in that
text that would *not *be fully applicable to Alpha, Beta, and Gamma EGs as
he had described them previously? Please provide exact quotations.

JFS: Although Peirce never developed it further (as far as I know), the
option of attaching a line of identity to an oval is exactly the same
operation as taking a sheet of paper, drawing a line around the nested text
(You are a good girl), and stating postulates in the margin (as in R514 and
L376).


It is *not *the same operation at all since "--is much to be wished" is not
a postulate from which "you are a good girl" follows necessarily. As I
explained before, Peirce's "red pencil" operation in R 514 effectively
turns each individual sheet of paper on which EGs are scribed into a
*conditional
*proposition. Its physical edges and the red line drawn just inside them
are cuts, the latter nested within the former, so that the margin is the
outer close (antecedent) and the area within the red line is the inner
close (consequent). Any propositions in the margin (postulates) are "merely
asserted to be possible," and if they are all true, then all the
propositions within the red line (theorems) are also true. There is no
"line of identity" connecting the red line to the postulates in the margin.

Where exactly do you see anything about "stating postulates in the margin"
in R L376? Please provide exact quotations.

JFS: As for the five EGs from 1909, quoted below, none of them express
modal logic. All five of them can be translated to statements in
first-order logic:


Those translations are incorrect. It is unambiguous from Peirce's own
handwritten translations that the EGs scribed on that Logic Notebook page
are not Beta graphs with heavy lines for indefinite individuals attached to
lowercase letters for general concepts being attributed to them. Instead,
the heavy lines are for "circumstances," and they are attached to lowercase
letters for propositions (as in Alpha) that would be true in them. There is
an *analogy *between quantifying predicates over subjects in first-order
predicate logic and quantifying propositions over possible states of things
in propositional modal logic--in Peirce's words, "The distinction between
the Indefinite, the Singular, and the General ls obviously only another
application of the distinction between the Possible, the Actual, and the
Necessary, for which the Germans have invented the convenient name
*Modality*" (NEM 3:814, 1905)--but they still require different formal
systems.

In modern standard notation, Peirce's five modal propositions are (1) ◇*p*,
(2) ¬◇¬*p* = □*p*, (3) ◇*p* ∧ ◇*q*, (4) ◇(*p* ∧ *q*), and (5) ◇*p* ∧ ◇*q*
 ∧ ¬◇(*p* ∧ *q*); in each case, *p* and *q* are atomic non-modal
propositions. How would you represent them in your candidate for Delta EGs?
For example, would ◇*p* simply be *p* inside an oval with a heavy line
attached to the verb phrase "--is possible," and would □*p* simply be
*p* inside
an oval with a heavy line attached to the verb phrase "--is necessary"? If
so, then that seems much more cumbersome--much less iconic--than my
candidate for Delta EGs. Instead of formulating new graphical
transformation rules, would you just stipulate the usual modal axioms--for
example, "necessary" may always be changed to "possible" (D), "actual" (T),
or "necessarily necessary" (4)?

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 10:18 PM 

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-22 Thread John F Sowa
Jon,

The single most important innovation of Delta graphs is an operator for 
metalangage or metalogic.  Just that one operator, when added to ordinary 
first-order logic, makes it possible to define a wide range of modal logics and 
logics for probability.  In fact, Peirce's modal logic of 1903 and his 
tinctured modal logic of 1906 (as well as may other kinds of modalities and 
probabilities) can all be defined in terms of Delta graphs (which I assume to 
be first-order EGs with the operator summarized below).

The reason why I make that claim is that I was on the committee of 9 logicians 
and computer scientists that defined the IKL logic of 2006.  And as exercises, 
we showed how to define all those options by extending FOL with just one 
operator, which is equivalent to what Peirce defined in RLT (1898), in R514 
(June 1911), and in L376 (Dec.  1911).  See below.

Peirce introduced an operator for metalanguage in RLT (1898).  The example he 
used was the sentence "That you are a good girl is much to be wished."  The 
notation he adopted was a plain white oval with a line of identity attached to 
the oval.  Inside the oval was the sentence "You are a good girl".  The line of 
identity attached to the oval may be read "There exists a proposition p, which 
is stated by the nested graph for 'You are a good girl'."Outside the oval, 
he attached the verb phrase "--is much to be wished" to the same line of 
identity.

Although Peirce never developed it further (as far as I know), the option of 
attaching a line of identity to an oval is exactly the same operation as taking 
a sheet of paper, drawing a line around the nested text (You are a good girl), 
and stating postulates in the margin (as in R514 and L376).   That is identical 
the IKL extension to the base logic (called Common Logic).  See the cited 
references about IKL.  In IKL, the operator for stating postulates outside the 
nested statements is named 'that' -- which happens to be the first word in 
Peirce's example of 1898.

When the nine of us defined the IKL logic, I was the only person who had read 
RLT, but I was not the first person who suggested the word 'that' for the 
operator.  (As they say, great minds run in the same rut.)  But as an exercise, 
we showed that first-order logic plus the that-operator can be used to define 
all the operators that Peirce defined for his 1903 version of modal logic.

So if you like Peirce's 1903 version of modal logic, you can have it.  Just use 
the 'that' operator of 1898 or the Delta papers of 1911 to define the 1903 
modal graphs.   In short, adopting the Delta graphs of 1911 does not reject the 
modal logic of 1903, because every option of 1903 can be defined in terms of 
Delta graphs.

As for the five EGs from 1909, quoted below, none of them express modal logic.  
All five of them can be translated to statements in first-order  logic:

There exists x such that p(x).

If there exists x, then p(x).

There exist x and y, such that p(x) and q(y).

There exists x, such that p(x) and q(x).

There exist x and y, such that p(x) and q(y) and x is not equal to y.

John


From: "Jon Alan Schmidt" 

John, List:

I sincerely appreciate this clarification of your thought process underlying 
your conjecture that "The primary subject of L376 is Delta graphs." I am not 
yet persuaded, but I now intend to review the entire letter carefully in light 
of your proposed interpretation. Again, on my current reading, what it says 
about "The Conventions" and "The Phemic Sheet" is not "a version of logic that 
is different from any that Peirce had previously specified," it is just another 
description of EGs in general--applicable to Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and 
(presumably) Delta. Are there specific statements in the text that you view as 
incompatible with the first three parts?

I have a different hypothesis regarding what Peirce might have had in mind for 
"a Delta part [of EGs] in order to deal with modals," which I have discussed on 
the List in the past. In fact, I already wrote a paper of my own about it, 
which will be published sometime this spring. Its title is "Peirce and Modal 
Logic: Delta Existential Graphs and Pragmaticism," and here is the abstract.

Although modern modal logic came about largely after Peirce's death, he 
anticipated some of its key aspects, including strict implication and possible 
worlds semantics. He developed the Gamma part of Existential Graphs with broken 
cuts signifying possible falsity, but later identified the need for a Delta 
part without ever spelling out exactly what he had in mind. An entry in his 
personal Logic Notebook is a plausible candidate, with heavy lines representing 
possible states of things where propositions denoted by attached letters would 
be true, rather than individual subjects to which predicates denoted by 
attached names are attributed as in the Beta part. New transformation rules 
implement various commonly 

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-22 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List:

I sincerely appreciate this clarification of your thought process
underlying your conjecture that "The primary subject of L376 is Delta
graphs." I am not yet persuaded, but I now intend to review the entire
letter carefully in light of your proposed interpretation. Again, on my
current reading, what it says about "The Conventions" and "The Phemic
Sheet" is *not *"a version of logic that is different from any that Peirce
had previously specified," it is just another description of EGs *in
general*--applicable to Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and (presumably) Delta. Are
there specific statements in the text that you view as incompatible with
the first three parts?

I have a different hypothesis regarding what Peirce might have had in mind
for "a *Delta* part [of EGs] in order to deal with modals," which I have
discussed on the List in the past. In fact, I already wrote a paper of my
own about it, which will be published sometime this spring. Its title is
"Peirce and Modal Logic: Delta Existential Graphs and Pragmaticism," and
here is the abstract.

Although modern modal logic came about largely after Peirce's death, he
anticipated some of its key aspects, including strict implication and
possible worlds semantics. He developed the Gamma part of Existential
Graphs with broken cuts signifying possible falsity, but later identified
the need for a Delta part without ever spelling out exactly what he had in
mind. An entry in his personal Logic Notebook is a plausible candidate,
with heavy lines representing possible states of things where propositions
denoted by attached letters would be true, rather than individual subjects
to which predicates denoted by attached names are attributed as in the Beta
part. New transformation rules implement various commonly employed formal
systems of modal logic, which are readily interpreted by defining a
possible world as one in which all the relevant laws for the actual world
are facts, each world being partially but accurately and adequately
described by a closed and consistent model set of propositions. In
accordance with pragmaticism, the relevant laws for the actual world are
represented as strict implications with real possibilities as their
antecedents and conditional necessities as their consequents, corresponding
to material implications in every possible world.


Here is an image of the relevant Logic Notebook entry (R 339:[340r], LF
1:624, 1909 Jan 7).

[image: image.png]

One limitation of using Gamma EGs with broken cuts for modal logic,
identified by Jay Zeman in his dissertation (
https://isidore.co/calibre/get/pdf/4481), is that the ordinary
transformation rules implement the unusual Ł-modal system of Łukasiewicz; I
wrote about this in a previous paper (https://rdcu.be/cQoIz). Zeman
proposed various restrictions on iteration/deiteration to implement *S4 *and
stronger formal systems, but weaker systems do not seem to be feasible,
especially since insertion/erasure as applied to broken cuts themselves
directly corresponds to axiom T (□*p* → *p*, or *p* → ◇*p*). By contrast,
my candidate for Delta EGs can implement most of the common systems with
different combinations of permissions, each pertaining to the heavy "lines
of compossibility" (LOCs) and corresponding to one of the well-known modal
axioms (K, D, T, 4, 5) that are added to classical propositional logic.

As you no doubt recognize, the semantics summarized in the penultimate
sentence of my abstract above is the same one that you discuss in your 2003
and 2006 papers, and I explicitly reference the former--it is what first
brought J. Michael Dunn's very interesting approach to my attention, for
which I am grateful. I wrote a separate paper with a more extensive
formalization of it, entitled "Laws and Facts Semantics for Modal Logic,"
likewise referencing your 2003 paper; it is currently under review, with an
initial decision expected soon. Here is that abstract.

Dunn and Goble proposed a simplified semantics for modal logic in which a
possible world is defined as one where all the relevant laws for the
designated world, usually taken to be the actual world, are facts. When
formalized with Hintikka's closed and consistent model sets serving as
partial but accurate and adequate descriptions of these worlds, different
properties of the alternativeness (or accessibility) relation then
correspond to different containment relations among the sets of
propositions representing the relevant laws and facts. This approach can be
helpfully illustrated by Venn diagrams and is arguably more intuitive than
the standard one in which the binary relation between worlds is primitive
and arbitrary.


As I see it, Hintikka's model sets directly correspond to any number of
individual EGs that could be explicitly scribed on the phemic sheet--in
Alpha, Beta, Gamma, or Delta--without ever exhausting the continuum of true
propositions about the universe of discourse. As he says, "In all
non-trivial cases, we have to do with an 

[PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-22 Thread John F Sowa
hich was also 
published in 2006.  For a list of references to IKL and the IKRIS project that 
sponsored the development of IKL, see https://jfsowa.com/ikl .

Then. look at Five Questions on Epistemic Logic, 
https://jfsowa.com/pubs/5qelogic.pdf .  That article, which was published in 
2010, discusses how a logic such as IKL or Peirce's delta graphs could 
represent various issues in modal logic with an emphasis on epistemic logic -- 
that is also a consideration for my recent article about phaneroscopy.

There is much more that could be said, and I plan to write it in the article on 
Delta graphs.  And by the way, I wonder how you would explain the three 
questions I asked:  Why did Juliette wash and scrub the floor in Deceber?   Why 
were there papers on the floor?  Why did Peirce slip on them in a very complex 
way?

John

----
From: "Jon Alan Schmidt" 
Sent: 2/21/24 1:25 PM
To: Peirce-L 
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

John, List:

JFS: The entire letter L376 is about Delta graphs and applications of Delta 
graphs.

This conjecture is quite a leap, considering that--as you acknowledged--Peirce 
mentions Delta exactly once in that entire 19-page letter, which he left 
unfinished unless additional pages somehow disappeared from the manuscript 
folder at Harvard's Houghton Library decades ago. Again, here is that lone 
sentence.

CSP: The better exposition of 1903 divided the system into three parts, 
distinguished as the Alpha, the Beta, and the Gamma, parts; a division I shall 
here adhere to, although I shall now have to add a Delta part in order to deal 
with modals.

In the remaining text that we currently have, Peirce never gets around to 
discussing any of the individual parts of EGs and their differences, despite 
stating plainly that he was going to maintain them as "the better exposition" 
of the system as a whole. He also says nothing whatsoever about dealing with 
modals, which is his only stated purpose for adding a Delta part to the other 
three.

JFS: As Peirce wrote, the phemic sheet of a Delta graph contains multiple 
"papers", each of which represents one possibility specified by "postulates"  
that govern the remaining content of the sheet.

That is not what Peirce wrote in his letter to Risteen. Again, here is the 
exact quotation.

CSP: I provide my system with a phemic sheet, which is a surface upon which the 
utterer and interpreter will, by force of a voluntary and actually contracted 
habit, recognize that whatever is scribed upon it and is interpretable as an 
assertion is to be recognized as an assertion, although it may refer to a mere 
idea as its subject. If “snows” is scribed upon the Phemic Sheet, it asserts 
that in the universe to which a special understanding between utterer and 
interpreter has made the special part of the phemic sheet on which it is 
scribed to relate, it sometime does snow. For they two may conceive that the 
“phemic sheet” embraces many papers, so that one part of it is before the 
common attention at one time and another part at another, and that actual 
conventions between them equivalent to scribed graphs make some of those pieces 
relate to one subject and part to another.

Again, there is no mention here of Delta, nor of modals. In fact, there is no 
mention here of any of the different parts of EGs, because Peirce is describing 
the phemic sheet as employed in every part. He also does not say that the 
different "papers" correspond to different possibilities, he says that they 
correspond to different subjects--different universes of discourse--to which 
the utterer and interpreter together pay attention at different times. So I ask 
again, how exactly would the use of multiple "papers" and/or the "red pencil" 
operation of R 514 facilitate implementing formal systems of modal logic with 
EGs? Which specific one, "invented in 2006," do you have in mind?

JFS: Meanwhile, there are some questions to ponder:

Any answers to such questions about the details of Peirce's unfortunate 
accident are pure speculation. It seems to me that if it had happened while he 
was "laying out a diagram of papers" for a new version of EGs, then he likely 
would have said so somewhere.

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 9:18 PM John F Sowa  wrote:
Jon,

The entire letter L376 is about Delta graphs and applications of Delta graphs.  
Since Peirce began the letter to Risteen shortly after his visit, he was 
assuming that Risteen knew a great deal about the material they had discussed.  
Therefore, he plunged into examples without much of an intro.

As Peirce wrote, the phemic sheet of a Delta graph contains multiple "papers

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List:

JFS: The entire letter L376 is about Delta graphs and applications of Delta
graphs.


This conjecture is quite a leap, considering that--as you
acknowledged--Peirce mentions Delta *exactly once* in that entire 19-page
letter, which he left unfinished unless additional pages somehow
disappeared from the manuscript folder at Harvard's Houghton Library
decades ago. Again, here is that lone sentence.

CSP: The better exposition of 1903 divided the system into three parts,
distinguished as the Alpha, the Beta, and the Gamma, parts; a division I
shall here adhere to, although I shall now have to add a *Delta *part in
order to deal with modals.


In the remaining text that we currently have, Peirce never gets around to
discussing *any *of the individual parts of EGs and their differences,
despite stating plainly that he was going to maintain them as "the better
exposition" of the system as a whole. He also says nothing whatsoever about
dealing with modals, which is his only stated purpose for adding a Delta
part to the other three.

JFS: As Peirce wrote, the phemic sheet of a Delta graph contains multiple
"papers", each of which represents one possibility specified by
"postulates"  that govern the remaining content of the sheet.


That is *not *what Peirce wrote in his letter to Risteen. Again, here is
the exact quotation.

CSP: I provide my system with a *phemic sheet*, which is a surface upon
which the utterer and interpreter will, by force of a voluntary and
actually contracted habit, recognize that whatever is scribed upon it and
is interpretable as an assertion is to be recognized as an assertion,
although it may refer to a mere idea as its subject. If “snows” is scribed
upon the Phemic Sheet, it asserts that in the universe to which a special
understanding between utterer and interpreter has made the special part of
the phemic sheet on which it is scribed to relate, it *sometime *does snow.
For they two may conceive that the “phemic sheet” embraces many papers, so
that one part of it is before the common attention at one time and another
part at another, and that actual conventions between them equivalent to
scribed graphs make some of those pieces relate to one subject and part to
another.


Again, there is no mention here of Delta, nor of modals. In fact, there is
no mention here of *any *of the different parts of EGs, because Peirce is
describing the phemic sheet as employed in *every *part. He also does not
say that the different "papers" correspond to different *possibilities*, he
says that they correspond to different *subjects*--different universes of
discourse--to which the utterer and interpreter together pay attention at
different times. So I ask again, how exactly would the use of multiple
"papers" and/or the "red pencil" operation of R 514 facilitate implementing
formal systems of modal logic with EGs? Which specific one, "invented in
2006," do you have in mind?

JFS: Meanwhile, there are some questions to ponder:


Any answers to such questions about the details of Peirce's unfortunate
accident are pure speculation. It seems to me that if it had happened while
he was "laying out a diagram of papers" for a new version of EGs, then he
likely would have said so somewhere.

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 9:18 PM John F Sowa  wrote:

> Jon,
>
> The entire letter L376 is about Delta graphs and applications of Delta
> graphs.  Since Peirce began the letter to Risteen shortly after his visit,
> he was assuming that Risteen knew a great deal about the material they had
> discussed.  Therefore, he plunged into examples without much of an intro.
>
> As Peirce wrote, the phemic sheet of a Delta graph contains multiple
> "papers", each of which represents one possibility specified by
> "postulates"  that govern the remaining content of the sheet.  There are
> many ways of partitioning a sheet of paper to distinguish the postulates
> from the content they govern.  The excerpt from R514 is one method, and it
> happens to fill an entire sheet of paper.  He may have thought of some
> other notation for partitioning the paper, but the logical result would be
> equivalent.
>
> There is much more to say, and I'll send the full preview later this week.
>
> Meanwhile, there are some questions to ponder:  Why did Juliette scrub and
> polish the floor in December?  Spring cleaning is rarely done in December.
> Why was there some paper on the floor?  Why did Peirce slip n it?  Didn't
> he see it? Why was his accident so serious?  If he had been walking in a
> straight line, he might have fallen on his rear.  That might have been
> painful, but it wouldn't cause a serious injury that took 6 months to heal.
>   Such a serious accident might have occurred if Peirce had been walking
> fast while turning or twisting.  But why would he be doing 

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-20 Thread John F Sowa
Jon,

The entire letter L376 is about Delta graphs and applications of Delta graphs.  
Since Peirce began the letter to Risteen shortly after his visit, he was 
assuming that Risteen knew a great deal about the material they had discussed.  
Therefore, he plunged into examples without much of an intro.

As Peirce wrote, the phemic sheet of a Delta graph contains multiple "papers", 
each of which represents one possibility specified by "postulates"  that govern 
the remaining content of the sheet.  There are many ways of partitioning a 
sheet of paper to distinguish the postulates from the content they govern.  The 
excerpt from R514 is one method, and it happens to fill an entire sheet of 
paper.  He may have thought of some other notation for partitioning the paper, 
but the logical result would be equivalent.

There is much more to say, and I'll send the full preview later this week.

Meanwhile, there are some questions to ponder:  Why did Juliette scrub and 
polish the floor in December?  Spring cleaning is rarely done in December.  Why 
was there some paper on the floor?  Why did Peirce slip n it?  Didn't he see 
it? Why was his accident so serious?  If he had been walking in a straight 
line, he might have fallen on his rear.  That might have been painful, but it 
wouldn't cause a serious injury that took 6 months to heal.   Such a serious 
accident might have occurred if Peirce had been walking fast while turning or 
twisting.  But why would he be doing that?

Possible answer:  Charles had asked Juliette to wash the floor because he 
wanted to build a diagram with multiple papers.  He was laying out a diagram of 
papers with a large example of what he was writing about.  As he turned to lay 
our another layer, he turned and slipped.

John


From: "Jon Alan Schmidt" 
Sent: 2/20/24 2:00 PM
To: Peirce-L 
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

John, List:

Here is an exact quotation of what Peirce actually says in R L376 (letter to 
Risteen) about the phemic sheet consisting of multiple "papers."

CSP: I provide my system with a phemic sheet, which is a surface upon which the 
utterer and interpreter will, by force of a voluntary and actually contracted 
habit, recognize that whatever is scribed upon it and is interpretable as an 
assertion is to be recognized as an assertion, although it may refer to a mere 
idea as its subject. If “snows” is scribed upon the Phemic Sheet, it asserts 
that in the universe to which a special understanding between utterer and 
interpreter has made the special part of the phemic sheet on which it is 
scribed to relate, it sometime does snow. For they two may conceive that the 
“phemic sheet” embraces many papers, so that one part of it is before the 
common attention at one time and another part at another, and that actual 
conventions between them equivalent to scribed graphs make some of those pieces 
relate to one subject and part to another.

There is no mention of Delta, nor anything that would "deal with modals," which 
again is Peirce's only stated purpose for adding a Delta part to EGs. Instead, 
the different papers correspond to different subjects that attract "the common 
attention" of the utterer and interpreter at different times--i.e., different 
universes of discourse; not different times, aspects, or modalities of the same 
universe of discourse.

There is also nothing about the new "red pencil" operation that Peirce 
describes in R 514 (as quoted below), and based on his specific example in that 
text--postulates in geometry--it likewise does not "deal with modals." Instead, 
it treats the edges of the sheet and the red line drawn a short distance inside 
them as two cuts, the latter nested within the former, such that what is being 
represented overall is a conditional--if the propositions in the margin (outer 
close) are true, then the graphs within the red line (inner close) are also 
true. In other words, the universe of discourse is made more explicit instead 
of being entirely taken for granted, and it might be strictly 
hypothetical--"merely asserted to be possible."

In summary, it remains unclear to me what the content of your new article has 
to do with Delta graphs. How would the use of multiple "papers" and/or the "red 
pencil" operation facilitate implementing formal systems of modal logic with 
EGs? Which specific one, "invented in 2006," do you have in mind?

Regards,

Jon

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 10:30 PM John F Sowa  wrote:
Jon,

That's true:

JAS> I am admittedly curious about the content of your new article. As you 
know, there is only one place in Peirce's entire vast corpus of writings where 
he mentions Delta.

But note the following excerpt from R514, which also contains a rough draft of 
the EGs in L231:

"Since my paper of 19

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-20 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
tterer and an interpreter may use Delta graphs in an
> investigation. Further hints may be found in several manuscripts he wrote
> in the previous six months. As another hint, the intended recipient of the
> letter was Allan Risteen. When that letter is combined with information
> about Risteen’s expertise and Peirce’s work on a proof of pragmaticism, it
> suggests that the phemic sheet of a Delta graph consists of multiple
> “papers”, each of which represents a different time, aspect, or modality of
> some universe of discourse. Although Peirce did not specify the details of
> Delta graphs, a combination of features mentioned in several 1911
> manuscripts would satisfy the hints about Delta graphs. The result would be
> similar or perhaps equivalent to a logic for modality that was invented in
> 2006.
>
> John
>
> --
> *From*: "Jon Alan Schmidt" 
> *Sent*: 2/18/24 8:08 PM
> *To*: Peirce-L 
> *Subject*: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in
> Logic)
>
> John, List:
>
> JFS: I am now writing the article on Delta Graphs. That is an example
> where Peirce was on solid ground with his deep understanding of logic and
> mathematics. Next week, I'll send the abstract and preview of the new
> article, which shows how Peirce anticipated a version of logic that was
> developed in the 21st century (2006 to be exact). (
> https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2024-02/msg00038.html)
>
>
> JFS: I'm moving on to the the article on Delta graphs. I'll send a note
> with a preview of that article later this week. (
> https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2024-02/msg00104.html)
>
>
> I am admittedly curious about the content of your new article. As you
> know, there is only one place in Peirce's entire vast corpus of writings
> where he mentions Delta.
>
> CSP: In this ["Prolegomena to an Apology for Pragmaticism," CP 4.530-572,
> 1906] I made an attempt to make the syntax [of Existential Graphs] cover
> Modals; but it has not satisfied me. The description was, on the whole, as
> bad as it well could be, in great contrast to the one Dr. Carus rejected
> [in 1897]. For although the system itself is marked by extreme simplicity,
> the description fills 55 pages, and defines over a hundred technical terms
> applying to it. The necessity for these was chiefly due to the lines called
> "cuts" which simply appear in the present description as the boundaries of
> shadings, or shaded parts of the sheet. The better exposition of 1903
> divided the system into three parts, distinguished as the Alpha, the Beta,
> and the Gamma, parts; a division I shall here adhere to, although I shall
> now have to add a *Delta *part in order to deal with modals. (R L376, R
> 500:2-3, 1911 Dec 6)
>
>
> For EGs as described in "the better exposition of 1903," modal logic is
> implemented with *broken *cuts in Gamma. However, by the time Peirce
> wrote this letter to Allan Douglas Risteen, he had abandoned cuts in
> general, having replaced them with more iconic shading for negation.
> Consequently, he needed a new way to "deal with modals," and this is the
> sole purpose that he states for adding a Delta part.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
> Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian
> <http://www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt>
> www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt
>
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RE: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-19 Thread John F Sowa
Jon,

That's true:

JAS> I am admittedly curious about the content of your new article. As you 
know, there is only one place in Peirce's entire vast corpus of writings where 
he mentions Delta.

But note the following excerpt from R514, which also contains a rough draft of 
the EGs in L231:

"Since my paper of 1906, I have improved the [EG] system slightly (at least), 
and the manner of exposition of it greatly, by first stating the force of the 
different signs without going into their deeper significance in the
Since my paper of 1906, I have improved the [EG] system slightly (at least), 
and the manner of exposition of it greatly, by first stating the force of the 
different signs without going into their deeper significance in the least...

One of my possibly slight improvements, is that I begin by drawing (preferably 
with a red pencil), a line all round my sheet at a little distance from the 
edge; and in the margin outside the red line, whatever is scribed is merely 
asserted to be possible. Thus, if the subject were geometry, I could write in 
that margin the postulates, and any pertinent problems stated in the form of 
postulates such as, that "if on a plane, there be circle with a ray cutting it, 
and two be marked [end of R514]

That operation is the way L376 represents multiple parts of the phemic sheet.  
And it is a way of saying the conditions for the nested graph to be possible.  
That doesn't say much more.  But that operation when combined with a notation 
for first-order logic is a method for representing modality in various logics 
in the late 20th and early 21st C.

There are also other hints that suggest ways of extending FOL.  They don't 
prove that Peirce intended exactly the same kinds of applications.  But it 
shows that his ways of thinking could lead in promising directions.  Following 
is the abstract of the article I'm writing.

Abstract.  In December 1911, Peirce wrote an intriguing claim about existential 
graphs:  “I shall now have to add a Delta part in order to deal with modals.” 
Although his unfinished draft does not specify the details, it explains how an 
utterer and an interpreter may use Delta graphs in an investigation. Further 
hints may be found in several manuscripts he wrote in the previous six months. 
As another hint, the intended recipient of the letter was Allan Risteen. When 
that letter is combined with information about Risteen’s expertise and Peirce’s 
work on a proof of pragmaticism, it suggests that the phemic sheet of a Delta 
graph consists of multiple “papers”, each of which represents a different time, 
aspect, or modality of some universe of discourse. Although Peirce did not 
specify the details of Delta graphs, a combination of features mentioned in 
several 1911 manuscripts would satisfy the hints about Delta graphs. The result 
would be similar or perhaps equivalent to a logic for modality that was 
invented in 2006.

John


From: "Jon Alan Schmidt" 
Sent: 2/18/24 8:08 PM
To: Peirce-L 
Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

John, List:

JFS: I am now writing the article on Delta Graphs. That is an example where 
Peirce was on solid ground with his deep understanding of logic and 
mathematics. Next week, I'll send the abstract and preview of the new article, 
which shows how Peirce anticipated a version of logic that was developed in the 
21st century (2006 to be exact). 
(https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2024-02/msg00038.html)

JFS: I'm moving on to the the article on Delta graphs. I'll send a note with a 
preview of that article later this week. 
(https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2024-02/msg00104.html)

I am admittedly curious about the content of your new article. As you know, 
there is only one place in Peirce's entire vast corpus of writings where he 
mentions Delta.

CSP: In this ["Prolegomena to an Apology for Pragmaticism," CP 4.530-572, 1906] 
I made an attempt to make the syntax [of Existential Graphs] cover Modals; but 
it has not satisfied me. The description was, on the whole, as bad as it well 
could be, in great contrast to the one Dr. Carus rejected [in 1897]. For 
although the system itself is marked by extreme simplicity, the description 
fills 55 pages, and defines over a hundred technical terms applying to it. The 
necessity for these was chiefly due to the lines called "cuts" which simply 
appear in the present description as the boundaries of shadings, or shaded 
parts of the sheet. The better exposition of 1903 divided the system into three 
parts, distinguished as the Alpha, the Beta, and the Gamma, parts; a division I 
shall here adhere to, although I shall now have to add a Delta part in order to 
deal with modals. (R L376, R 500:2-3, 1911 Dec 6)

For EGs as described in "the better exposition of 1903," modal logic is 
implemented with broken cuts in Gamma. However, b

[PEIRCE-L] Delta Existential Graphs (was The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-18 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List:

JFS: I am now writing the article on Delta Graphs. That is an example where
Peirce was on solid ground with his deep understanding of logic and
mathematics. Next week, I'll send the abstract and preview of the new
article, which shows how Peirce anticipated a version of logic that was
developed in the 21st century (2006 to be exact). (
https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2024-02/msg00038.html)


JFS: I'm moving on to the the article on Delta graphs. I'll send a note
with a preview of that article later this week. (
https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2024-02/msg00104.html)


I am admittedly curious about the content of your new article. As you know,
there is only one place in Peirce's entire vast corpus of writings where he
mentions Delta.

CSP: In this ["Prolegomena to an Apology for Pragmaticism," CP 4.530-572,
1906] I made an attempt to make the syntax [of Existential Graphs] cover
Modals; but it has not satisfied me. The description was, on the whole, as
bad as it well could be, in great contrast to the one Dr. Carus rejected
[in 1897]. For although the system itself is marked by extreme simplicity,
the description fills 55 pages, and defines over a hundred technical terms
applying to it. The necessity for these was chiefly due to the lines called
"cuts" which simply appear in the present description as the boundaries of
shadings, or shaded parts of the sheet. The better exposition of 1903
divided the system into three parts, distinguished as the Alpha, the Beta,
and the Gamma, parts; a division I shall here adhere to, although I shall
now have to add a *Delta *part in order to deal with modals. (R L376, R
500:2-3, 1911 Dec 6)


For EGs as described in "the better exposition of 1903," modal logic is
implemented with *broken *cuts in Gamma. However, by the time Peirce wrote
this letter to Allan Douglas Risteen, he had abandoned cuts in general,
having replaced them with more iconic shading for negation. Consequently,
he needed a new way to "deal with modals," and this is the sole purpose
that he states for adding a Delta part.

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt
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