Re: [PEIRCE-L] What is information and how is it related to 'entropy' ?

2015-04-13 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Dear Professor Mani: Thank you for your well- formulated response. Of course, type theory and its many variations are critical to establishing correspondence between nature and mathematics. But it fails to satisfy the needs of chemists, biologists and physicians for a consistent approach to

Re: [biosemiotics:8249] Re: [PEIRCE-L] What is information and how is it related to 'entropy' ?

2015-04-08 Thread Gary Richmond
Lists, I had sent a version of this note to Steven off-list, but have added a single sentence at the end because the message is being sent not only to PEIRCE-L. Steven, At this point I think the list moderators/managers of both the biosemiotics list and PEIRCE-L (we are in communication) feel

Re: [biosemiotics:8249] Re: [PEIRCE-L] What is information and how is it related to 'entropy' ?

2015-04-07 Thread Gary Richmond
This from a man who recently insulted anyone and everyone who has taken teaching/learning seriously by offering that old Shavian quote, Those who can, do, those who can't teach. And I add, as if it needed to be said, it is possible both to do important research *and* to teach well, I personally

Re: [PEIRCE-L] What is information and how is it related to 'entropy' ?

2015-04-04 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
List, Sung On Apr 4, 2015, at 12:22 AM, Sungchul Ji wrote: (18) The concept of entropy has had a long and interesting history, beginning with its implicit introduction by Carnot to its explicit formalization as a state function by Clausius to its statistical treatment by Boltzmann and

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] What is information and how is it related to 'entropy' ?

2015-04-04 Thread Helmut Raulien
List, not having read Shannon and Weaver, my concept of entropy now relates only to the physical world, that is realworld systems with their system space being the real dimensions x, y, z, resp. longitude, broadness and altitude. And I think, that Jons definition is correct. The other kind of

[PEIRCE-L] What is information and how is it related to 'entropy' ?

2015-04-03 Thread Sungchul Ji
Jerry, Steven, John, Bob, lists, I want to thank Jerry for bringing to my attention Miller's impressive book, Living Systems [1], which I thought I had thumbed through once but did not: I simply conflated it with another book. Miller's book is the first biology book that I have seen so far that