Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism

2012-03-22 Thread Stephen C. Rose
If the way history is made is through willed values, those values were there before we were. They are ontological. I think the confusion in Peirce is his relegation of ethics to the aesthetic. Kierkegaard did a similar thing when he essentially sidelined the ethical. I muse that the semiotic realm

Re: [peirce-l] C.S. Peirce • A Guess at the Riddle

2012-03-22 Thread Jon Awbrey
TB = Terry Bristol TB: I like it up to this statement that I find obscure. CSP: Now an acceleration, instead of being like a velocity a relation between two successive positions, is a relation between three; so that the new doctrine has consisted in the suitable introduction of the

Re: [peirce-l] C.S. Peirce • A Guess at the Riddle

2012-03-22 Thread Benjamin Udell
Jon, Terry, list, I've seen it suggested in a thread somewhere on the Web that the reason that the position-velocity-acceleration trichotomy is a good one is that that there are universal laws of acceleration and velocity (and position?) but not of the third or higher derivatives. (The third

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism

2012-03-22 Thread Terry Bristol
A couple of comments on this passage from Forster and relating to S. Rose's response: 1. The 'plan' by which the universal intelligence works is not a 'fixed' or time(-space)-invariant 'plan'; (cf. likewise in Plato's Timaeus). There is no way to reason forward to 'deduce' a better world

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism

2012-03-22 Thread Stephen C. Rose
It seems to me that if there is a conflict between nominalism and realism/idealism which plays out in history that it is important to delve deeper. Peirce made spiritual or transcendent or musement matters subject to experiment - human progress had to be real. Where I think I disagree is in not

Re: [peirce-l] C.S. Peirce • A Guess at the Riddle

2012-03-22 Thread Terry Bristol
Jon, Ben et al. – Bypassing the triad theme for a moment – I think Peirce makes a crucial point that classical mechanics had a problem with acceleration. Modern physics is based in the new 'acceleration paradigm' – but this is far from being unproblematic. If one starts with the Cartesian

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism

2012-03-22 Thread Terry Bristol
Stephen – Your points are well taken. Might we say that we 'know' the eternal good by our very nature without being able to articulate it or convince others 'rationally'. I am a little unclear what you mean by 'ethics' here. I guess I must side with Nietzsche and Royce (and Rorty) here and