Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-04-15 Thread Määttänen Kirsti
> > > > From: C S Peirce discussion list [mailto:PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU] On > Behalf Of Catherine Legg > Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:42 PM > To: PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU > Subject: Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism&quo

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-27 Thread Jon Awbrey
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Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-26 Thread Eugene Halton
ion list [mailto:PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU] On Behalf Of Catherine Legg Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:42 PM To: PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU Subject: Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism" Tom that is a great quote in this context, thank you! Gene your passionat

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review • “Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism”

2012-03-26 Thread Jon Awbrey
Peircers, Yet another attack of synchronicity -- I just now happened to be working on the markup of some old work and I ran across this bit where I was trying to puzzle out a sensible picture of how the normative science fit together within a pragmatic perspective on their objects. | Question

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-25 Thread Catherine Legg
Tom that is a great quote in this context, thank you! Gene your passionate warning against a “Pyrrhic victory of eviscerated, abstract intelligence in the service of ideals” is important I think. It would seem that Peirce did criticize himself along these lines at one point where he compared hi

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-25 Thread Gary Richmond
Terry, Gene, Jon, List, Methinks that you are quite correct, Terry, about reasonableness in Peirce being centered on the social principle, and not just for science. Critical commonsense ought play a significant role in all our endeavors in Peirce's view. And Gene, while I enjoy the passion of you

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-25 Thread Terry Bristol
Methinks that the Peirce's 'reasonableness' is based on what he calls the 'social principle' and that it is the reasonableness of evolutionary love. The ideal of the community is love. Terry On Mar 25, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Eugene Halton wrote: Forster: "On [Peirce's] view, human beings are not c

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-25 Thread Jon Awbrey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibnzKeA6yxI On Mar 25, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Eugene Halton wrote: > Forster: "On [Peirce's] view, human beings are not cogs in a vast cosmic > mechanism, but rather are free, creative agents capable of transforming the > world though the active realization of intell

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-25 Thread Eugene Halton
Forster: "On [Peirce's] view, human beings are not cogs in a vast cosmic mechanism, but rather are free, creative agents capable of transforming the world though the active realization of intelligent ideals. The ultimate fate of the world is indeterminate and there is no guarantee that the force

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-25 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Not sure if this got sent. If so, sorry for the duplication. Flying blind as usual, I think admirable for Peirce means what it would mean to most. An action or actions that achieve a positive purpose either for an individual or in relationships. Peirce's modifier of reasonableness might be an evol

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-25 Thread Tom Gollier
Cathy, I'll have to wait for this discussion to develop further and/or the talk to get posted, but I thought this quote from Peirce might be pertinent. The artist introduces a fiction; but it is not an arbitrary one; it > exhibits affinities to which the mind accords a certain approval in > prono

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-25 Thread Catherine Legg
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Gary Richmond wrote: > I want to conclude this note with a passage near the end of the book > which I very much liked and have been reflecting on since. Forster > writes: > > On [Peirce's] view, human beings are not cogs in a vast cosmic > mechanism, but rather are

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-23 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Here is a somewhat corrected version of my reply to Terry. Best, S I have little place for ethics in such a system as I have. I see ethics as secondary to the willed application of values to the making of decisions. To me the question is what are the ontological values. My pragmatic answer came

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-22 Thread Terry Bristol
Stephen – Your points are well taken. Might we say that we 'know' the eternal good by our very nature without being able to articulate it or convince others 'rationally'. I am a little unclear what you mean by 'ethics' here. I guess I must side with Nietzsche and Royce (and Rorty) here and the

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-22 Thread Stephen C. Rose
It seems to me that if there is a conflict between nominalism and realism/idealism which plays out in history that it is important to delve deeper. Peirce made spiritual or transcendent or musement matters subject to experiment - human progress had to be real. Where I think I disagree is in not ven

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-22 Thread Terry Bristol
A couple of comments on this passage from Forster and relating to S. Rose's response: 1. The 'plan' by which the universal intelligence works is not a 'fixed' or time(-space)-invariant 'plan'; (cf. likewise in Plato's Timaeus). There is no way to reason forward to 'deduce' a better world without

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-22 Thread Stephen C. Rose
presents, his criticisms. The book itself is probably a > > worthwhile read, perhaps worthy of further review here. > > > > > > > > From: C S Peirce discussion list [mailto:PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU] On > > Behalf Of Catherine Legg > > Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-22 Thread Gary Richmond
orthwhile read, perhaps worthy of further review here. > > > > From: C S Peirce discussion list [mailto:PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU] On > Behalf Of Catherine Legg > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:43 PM > To: PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU > Subject: Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: &

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-13 Thread Michael DeLaurentis
Catherine Legg Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:43 PM To: PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU Subject: Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism" Michael I just read the book review from Nathan Houser you shared - it is lucidly written over 6 pages and gives a commanding o

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: "Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism"

2012-03-13 Thread Catherine Legg
Michael I just read the book review from Nathan Houser you shared - it is lucidly written over 6 pages and gives a commanding overview of Peirce's realism. I really enjoyed reading it, thanks for posting it. Cathy On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Michael DeLaurentis wrote: > If there has already