[peirce-l] Re: Peircean elements

2006-03-08 Thread Benjamin Udell
Claudio, list, It's fine with me if you or others modify my graphics for the purposes of discussion, and you seem good at the graphics. The discussion has advanced considerably beyond the point which you seem to have reached. You seem to have isolated a few of my remarks and addressed them

[peirce-l] Design and Semiotics Revisited (...new thread from Peircean elements topic)

2006-03-08 Thread Frances Kelly
Frances to Ben and Claudio and others: Forgive the interjection, but here are some interpretations of mine on Peircean ideas that may be related to your present concerns in signs and my current interests in designs. Let me state my speculations and invite corrections to them. The initial

[peirce-l] Re: Are there authorities on authority?

2006-03-08 Thread Joseph Ransdell
Larry: Thanks for the extensive reply to my criticisms. Sorry for the delay in responding but it will take me a few days more before I am ready to do so properly. I've been reading the various material by you that provides background understanding in some depth for what you say in your

[peirce-l] Re: Design and Semiotics Revisited (...new thread from Peircean elements topic)

2006-03-08 Thread Benjamin Udell
Frances, In Peirce's discussions of collateral experience, notice how he repeatedly says that the sign, the interpretant, the sign system, do not convey experience of the object. Instead, they convey meaning about the object.

[peirce-l] Re: Design and Semiotics Revisited (...new thread from Peircean elements topic)

2006-03-08 Thread Benjamin Udell
Second correction! I must be tired. Sorry. I've gone over it extra carefully this time. - Ben. Sorry, one-word correction, but it's needed. It's indicated in the text. - Ben - Original Message - From: Benjamin Udell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu