Re: [biosemiotics:8182] Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Article on origin of the universe relevant to some recent discussions on these lists

2015-04-04 Thread Benjamin Udell
Sung, We'll just have to disagree about Sokal. I don't usually suspect that you're a prankster; it's a passing impression that I've had a few times. Anyway I'm glad that you seem now to have read The Fixation of Belief and to have upped your game, as the phrase goes. Nobody expects you to

[PEIRCE-L] Re: What is information and how is it related to 'entropy' ?

2015-04-04 Thread Jon Awbrey
Sung, List, From a mathematical point of view, an “entropy” or “uncertainty” measure is simply a measure on distributions that achieves its maximum when the distribution is uniform. It is thus a measure of dispersion or uniformity. Measures like these can be applied to distributions that arise

[PEIRCE-L] Can the Peircan sign be the 'connector of truth' between disciplines ?

2015-04-04 Thread Sungchul Ji
Hi, The mathematical theory of categories may provide a rational framework for characterizing and analyzing the possible connections between physics, biology, and semiotics. It is for this reason that I begin this post with some definitions in category theory: (1) “Comparison and analogy are

Re: [PEIRCE-L] What is information and how is it related to 'entropy' ?

2015-04-04 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
List, Sung On Apr 4, 2015, at 12:22 AM, Sungchul Ji wrote: (18) The concept of entropy has had a long and interesting history, beginning with its implicit introduction by Carnot to its explicit formalization as a state function by Clausius to its statistical treatment by Boltzmann and

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: What is information and how is it related to 'entropy' ?

2015-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Hello Jon, Thanks for the explanation of an uncertainty measure and the link to your work on information. If you have worked on Peirce's general account of measurement (e.g., the account laid out in the CP at CP 7.280), I'd like to see what you have to say. I see that you have a subchapter

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] What is information and how is it related to 'entropy' ?

2015-04-04 Thread Helmut Raulien
List, not having read Shannon and Weaver, my concept of entropy now relates only to the physical world, that is realworld systems with their system space being the real dimensions x, y, z, resp. longitude, broadness and altitude. And I think, that Jons definition is correct. The other kind of

[PEIRCE-L] Re: What is information and how is it related to 'entropy' ?

2015-04-04 Thread Jon Awbrey
Helmut, List, Yes, a good mathematical workshop is stocked with a wide variety of models and tools, which we can try out in various applications. In this regard we must be wary of a certain “ontologizing tendency” that tends to get us stuck on only one way of seeing things. Regards, Jon

[PEIRCE-L] Re: What is information and how is it related to 'entropy' ?

2015-04-04 Thread Jon Awbrey
Helmut, List, Measures of dispersion, entropy, indeterminacy, uncertainty, whatever we choose to call them are abstract mathematical thingies that can be defined in a wide variety of settings. Whether any piece of mathematics has utility in a given setting is one of those “proof of the pudding